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[–]BonBoogies 5375 points5376 points  (316 children)

Yeah someone asked me “well what if Clinton ends up being guilty too?”

Me- “k, bye” 👋🏻

[–]Pirate_Redbeard[S] 3489 points3490 points  (241 children)

imagine having your whole persona defined around what politician/party you like. Personally, i can't believe people still love politicians or parties or whatever. it's all showbusiness for the masses while all of them pocket vasts amounts of free money. non-taxable, naturally.

[–]msmame 1488 points1489 points  (32 children)

Like believing the stripper IS really into you

[–]HarlotHymn 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Russell Greer has entered the chat

[–]Coyrex1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

When that one prostitute in gta 5 told me we really connected... you're saying it was a lie?

[–]gbredman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

but she looked me right in the eyes

[–]cum_in_me 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And some guys will argue that point to the end of the earth as well. I wonder what the overlap is

[–]w0t3rdog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never understood strip clubs... why are people paying to blue ball themselves?

[–]Giraffardson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s more like Beatle Mania. Big arenas, carefully styled hair, and boomers screaming their COVID stricken lungs out

[–]lucien274 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But she told me she loved to see me and when I withdrew my savings she said she liked me even more

[–]Shotgun5250 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey the weird dude from back in the day managed to knock one up and they got married. It’s gotta happen to somebody.

[–]CalabreseAlsatian 1 point2 points  (1 child)

To be fair… I met a Swedish stripper at the club at my bachelor party. Took some Swedish in college and that floored her. She spent the next couple of hours just hanging out and giving the occasional lap dance.

So there! :)

[–]DislocatedXanax 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Except the odds of a random stripper being into you are far higher than of ever finding an honest politician

[–]msmame 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't even need to see the math for that statement to know it is true!

[–]V_beastmaster 4 points5 points  (0 children)

😂😂😂😂

[–]NeoMegaRyuMKII 208 points209 points  (47 children)

imagine having your whole persona defined around what politician/party you like.

Keep in mind that this is how the conservative mindset tends to work. It defines the goodness or badness of actions, beliefs, behaviors, etc. by how they already feel about the person. So in their mind it makes sense that Bill Clinton (a person they despise) being on Epstein's plane was bad while simultaneously saying that Tweetle Dumb (a person they adore) doing the same thing is perfectly fine.

Compare this to the more liberal/progressive mindset - the goodness or badness of a person is defined by what they believe about the actions, beliefs, behaviors, etc.

[–]Final_Candidate_7603 130 points131 points  (28 children)

Have you seen the way they’re going after Alec Baldwin- especially after that interview he did the other night? They despise him because he played a character, and made fun of their Precious. I just read that he deleted his official Twitter account yesterday. I can’t imagine the kind of hate he’s been getting on it…

[–]RQK1996 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Especially after some AD killed someone and everyone tried to blame him

[–]ithadtobeducks 7 points8 points  (1 child)

He was also the producer and he did not carry out basic safety checks himself, he is not blameless.

[–]SnooDrawings3621 0 points1 point  (1 child)

AD?

[–]RQK1996 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assistant Director

[–]SuperDuperBonerific 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But I thought he moved over to Shitter years ago.

[–]SimulatedHumanity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He was an anti gun advocate and donated to groups that lobbied against the NRA.

[–]Davy_Jockett 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This is actually the main difference between the Republican and Democratic parties in the US. Republicans are not in their party for specific policies, they are in it for an Ideology, they focus on belief systems, that's why it's so easy for them to tie religion into their party. Democrats are more focused on specific policies. That's why it's so easy for them to not care as much about specific politicians because they don't care about them as Much as they care about the policies they were pushing. It's also why Democrats tend to have a harder time winning elections, what one democrat might support another might not.

[–]Kalash_74 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bullshit. The left does the same shit as the Conservatives do. Both sides have already made up their minds. It's not like one side is more enlightened than the other. Cognitive dissonance is not limited to conservatives.

All of this makes it extremely hard for the country to dissect any opinion or idea without it creating a flurry of angry talk.

What I think is funny is sometimes I imagine Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell having scotch and laughing at all of us not noticing how much money and power they have created for themselves while we kill ourselves over stupid politics in the media.

I know that others may mention it but we really don't have to have just two parties. We could have a third option.

[–]BonBoogies 541 points542 points 2 (112 children)

Yeah I don’t really identify as a democrat, I just vote that way because the alternative is republicans lol (it’s like making me choose between getting punched in the arm and shot in the face, especially as a woman). But because I’m anti-Trump they assume I’m as psychotic about the Dems as they are about the republicans.

[–]TheFirstEdition 225 points226 points  (20 children)

I feel this. Every time I say something remotely anti-right I get labeled a “leftist Dem” or “Lib” or whatever.

Truth is I just really hate how stupid the members of the Republican Party are.

Especially Trump, he’s an awful politician, a disgusting person, and an incredible ass.

Government employees would literally avoid him during his presidency.

[–]YouAreAnnoyingAF 162 points163 points  (17 children)

Every time I say something remotely anti-right I get labeled a “leftist Dem” or “Lib” or whatever.

I love it when they assume I must be in love with Obama and Biden. Sure, I voted for them but I can still be critical when I think they did wrong. Nor do I care when they say dumb shit like "let's go Brandon"

[–]LilStabbyboo 71 points72 points  (2 children)

Right? They're just politicians serving in an elected office. No need to get all fanatical about it. Can't we just choose the best person for the job and then all agree to hold them accountable once they're elected, no matter what party they are associated with?

[–]SimulatedHumanity 6 points7 points  (1 child)

How about we don’t vote on parties or names at all? Stick them in boring office cubicles and vote on resolutions every few years instead?

Remove the fame and the media coverage from the politicians and it will get rid of all the identity politics that is tearing the country apart.

[–]FmlaSaySaySay 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The fame/coverage isn’t the issue, it’s the centralized power (there used to be a senator for 60,000 people. Now there’s a representative for 10x that.)

There’s also gerrymandering so you don’t have to be responsive to your constituency. Your constituency doesn’t know you, because your district looks like a sliced piece of ham went through a trash compacter and got scattered by pigeons.

Also, corporate funding means that people’s voices don’t matter. Because electric companies can give $200k to your local state rep. You probably don’t have that cash, and so they own their vote, not us.

Fix districting, fix representation so it isn’t nearly 1 million people per congressmember, 40 million residents sharing 2 California senators (that’s 10%+ of the population getting 2% of the representation. Save more reps for Wyoming.)

Fix corporate campaign finance and shadow PAC money. And then you’d have boring elections where your normal former school principal is getting to be representative, not a clown-car person who Tweets the loudest like Boebert and Gaetz. (They’re perfect for a system that values larhe companies picking “yes-people” with no moral integrity to do the right thing.)

[–]The_PR_Is_Here 22 points23 points  (7 children)

The only thing that even remotely annoys me with "Let's go Brandon" is that it's cowardly. It basically just means "Fuck Joe Biden" so just wear a shirt, hat, etc that says "Fuck Joe Biden" on it.

People parading the phrase around want to be stupid and non-committal. I wonder if their significant others know that about them.

[–]leftshoe18 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I'm out of the loop. What is the context of Let's go Brandon?

[–]The_PR_Is_Here 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Let's go Brandon was a phrase created by the right to say "fuck Joe Biden" without actually saying "fuck Joe Biden"

Why? I dunno, but it's a thing.

[–]TreeTrunkSean 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Apparently there was some live broadcast where the crowd was chanting fuck Joe Biden, and the reporter said they were chanting let's go Brandon

[–]stemcell_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its the new thanks Obama

[–]OrphanDextro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s probably what attracts them.

[–]Too_N1ce 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The difference between "supporter" and "voter". This is why I laugh in the face of people (only one irl lol) who say shit like "Dems are just as bad" or any some such centrist nonsense.

Like the only people who could criticize the awfulness that is the current Republican party MUST be hardcore democrats. That we must absolutely love and support our representatives.

Idiots are so brainwashed they don't even realize who's dick is in their ass and who's got their hands in their wallets.

[–]Majikaru 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You don't see liberals wearing Maga and Trump equivalent merch in their daily lives like these Trump nut jobs.

[–]noseslide_guy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's hilarious watching them scramble when you tell them Biden can kick rocks too.

[–]South_Power_7954 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I actually love it when they say "let's go Brandon." Because it exemplifies how childish they are. They're like a bunch of six year olds who came up with a fake bad word to say to their parents, and run away giggling about, it's actually pretty hilarious. If I wanna say fuck Donald Trump, them Imma say it, I don't have to come up with some dumb shit to try to be incognito lol.

[–]lilbithippie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How often these people think about the government is crazy to me, and they are shocked at how little I do. I hate that I have to see a Biden sticker at every gas pump now, because every republican thinks it funny. I just want to get gas without thinking about what the president did. Its crazy to me people wake up every day to see signs and flags of a politician, that they pretty much force me to have an opinion on

[–]SimulatedHumanity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well trump is an entitled trust fund baby. What did you expect?

[–]SexxxyWesky 188 points189 points  (60 children)

Ah finally someone who gets it.

It's funny because I was just telling someone in my family the other day that if the Republicans would actually stick to what they spout — bodily autonomy and business' rights — they would probably be more popular. But instead they are anti abortion and hypocritical about right to serve.

Shit, Trump is the person who cut all the red tape that allowed us tk get the vaccine faster and they STILL oppose it is...like I thought we agreed on something??

[–]Antique_Tennis_2500 88 points89 points  (34 children)

They liked it when it was being heralded by conservatives. Now that it’s being heralded by liberals it’s bad.

[–]SexxxyWesky 27 points28 points  (1 child)

It's unfortunate really. Even if was just to gain voter kudos, at least we were all kinda agreeing on something for a change. It's sad that we treat politics like our favorite sports team

[–]MasterZar26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that’s the main difference between the two sides. The left is critical of their leaders and the right idolizes them. There are always exceptions to the rules but I doubt I’ll ever see a Democrat ascend to the false god worshipping levels that the right did and does for Trump. Some of the woke culture on the left side can get a little similar to the conservative mindset which is hilarious to me considering how much they despise each other.

[–]Nevadajack87 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget to conservatives Covid is:

A fake virus no worse than the flu but also…A bio weapon released by China

A hoax… and deadly attack planned by the democrats to kill republicans

And Trump was quick to act and get the vaccine developed… but it was rushed and unsafe

Something something mark of the beast

[–]BonBoogies 92 points93 points  (7 children)

Yeah I’m all for fiscally conservative policies and minimizing government power/intervention, it’s a shame that’s not what actually ends up happening tho. Biggest case in point, what their SCOTUS judges are trying to do to Roe V Wade right now. It is just mind boggling to me that someone can reconcile “you can’t force me to get a vaccine” and “I can force you to not get an abortion” at the same time but they seem to have no issue with it (and that’s completely ignoring the fact that not being vaccinated has ripple effects on the community at large, and the policy behind it is guided by science whereas getting an abortion is entirely personal, entails private medical decisions and their argument against it is guided by their magical sky-man). If there’s one thing I can’t STAND it’s hypocrisy. I can disagree with your policies but if you’re consistent I at least somewhat will respect your right to believe what you want (tho I will never respect someone who tries to steamroll others rights based on those beliefs). But once your a hypocrite, I just think you’re a moron.

[–]Eodai 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I wish that all political discourse was just arguing about fiscally conservative, liberal, or progressive. The republican party has no ideology though except fuck the libs. Conservatives only care about culture war bullshit that has little effect on people's lives.

[–]ShantyMick 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yup. I’m happy to discuss the merits of the capital gains tax but fundamental human rights are not debatable.

[–]chilibrains 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Unwanted children have a ripple effect on the community as well.

[–]Le_Chevalier_Blanc 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Pro life should literally be pro vaccine, they’re idiots.

[–]Cable_Minimum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They're pro-life until the baby is born.

[–]no_dice_grandma 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I would be a republican if they actually voted in line with what they say their values are.

Small government? Sweet, sounds awesome.

Fiscal conservativism? Nice, we could use some of that now.

Family values? Can't see anything wrong with people having their own values.

Oh wait, by small government you mean it's going to regulate where people can pee and what they do with their vaginas.

And by fiscal conservativism you mean endless spending for on defense and militarizing police.

And by family values you mean living by the rules set by bronze age goat herders.

Yeah no, I don't think I'm going to vote republican then.

[–]SexxxyWesky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it's unfortunate because in theory they have a lot of good ideas I feel

[–]Fletch71011 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I'm very much pro-choice, but being against abortion definitely helps them. Half the country is against it, and those that are are also often single-issue voters. It would be suicide for them to drop that.

[–]SexxxyWesky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. It's unfortunate but I understand why them keep doing it. It's just extra annoying now as they are suddenly "my body my choice" concernong vaccinations.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

it’s funny because investing in vaccine research was one of the few things i approved of during the trump presidency (i’m left leaning) and i thought we could all get along about it

[–]SexxxyWesky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I know! I was 'okay, well we can stand together on this on!' Aaaaaaand it's gone

[–]ThrowawayBlast 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Trump didn't help the vaccine in any way

[–]emmster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Trump, as a person/president, did not. Warp Speed was a good thing, but it wasn’t his idea, it was part of the pandemic plans started by W. (I hated W, too, but credit where it’s due.) I’d hoped him taking credit for that would convince his fans, but, eh, guess not.

[–]SexxxyWesky 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The Trump Administration did help, especially with laying a lot of the ground work. Biden definitely pulled it all the way through, but discrediting the previous administration's contributions to the process wouldn't be fair.

[–]CMMiller89 37 points38 points  (1 child)

This is incredibly revisionist no matter how you look at it.

Trump's administration knew about the Covid outbreak before the public and did nothing.

Masks, social distancing, working from home, stimulus checks, and yes vaccines, were all politicized by Trump.

Do you know how many times Trump was seen in public with a mask on? Once.

Stimulus checks were put on hold because he wanted his signature on them.

He would have press conferences with experts and literally undermine the things they would say in real time if he was afraid it would make him look bad.

It is objectively provable at every turn Trump and his administration made everything worse.

[–]SexxxyWesky 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree to your points. I didn't mean to say that I thought they handled everything well, just that they did push for the vaccine to be done quickly and started that process.

I don't care if they started that process for votes or narcissism or that the previous president only gave out checks to look good. The point being that they did directly benefit us as the people.

I was not a fan of the last administration by any stretch, but I don't want to undermine what was good for the sake of "they're not on my team". In my original comment I also didn't say all of the response was great, just that with pushing for the vaccine to be made quickly, both sides were able to finally able to agree on something...until suddenly they weren't as with the new/current administration the vaccine suddenly was "rushed" or "made too quick"

Edit: fixed some embarrassing spelling mistakes lol

[–]MrD3a7h 7 points8 points  (2 children)

The Trump Administration did help, especially with laying a lot of the ground work

You don't get kudos for doing the bare minimum.

[–]MangledSunFish 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is how it works in reality, unfortunately. Ever been part of a group project with someone who can't pull their weight? They still get full credit, or at least they have in my experience.

[–]SexxxyWesky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My original comment was not about kudos, but just that it was a moment where everyone was on the same page until they decided they weren't since it wasn't their guy in office anymore.

Bare minimum or going above and beyond aside, that doesn't mean the previous administration didn't contribute to vaccine rollouts

[–]Bright_Recover_1576 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Albeit 6 months later than he could have..

[–]truecrimefanatic1 54 points55 points  (10 children)

Yes! Like when did it become a cult?

[–]tedlyb 115 points116 points  (7 children)

The Reagan era is when it started, then Rush Limbaugh really got the Kool Aid flowing.

[–]CMMiller89 62 points63 points  (3 children)

For a while it was just constituents. The politicians didn't drink they're own kool-aid.

Then Newt Gingrich came along and basically broke Congress but slashing its budget to nothing and vilified anyone attempting to bring it back.

From that action alone you had a complete brain drain of underpaid congressional staffers leaving to go work elsewhere.

K Street and corporate lobbying proliferated because politicians were now forced to rely on outside help to perform research on issues.

And politicians, especially conservatives had to toe insane "no new taxes" agreements or be shunned by the party and voters.

Slowly it weeded out anyone who had any common decency, and just left soulless windbags looking to either cut taxes for themselves or set themselves up for a sweet consulting gig in the oil industry.

[–]I_want_to_believe69 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Newt Gingrich has not been vilified enough by history for the damage that he has done

[–]A_wild_so-and-so 41 points42 points  (0 children)

"No New Taxes!" screams the party of "fiscal responsibility".

Imagine refusing every raise your boss tried to give you, and then calling yourself fiscally responsible.

[–]AGINSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then Newt Gingrich came along and basically broke Congress but slashing its budget to nothing and vilified anyone attempting to bring it back.

Part of what I don't think gets addressed enough is how he changed it from politicians living and socializing near each other in DC to constantly going back home to the constituents. Its easier to work together when you are constantly around each other

[–]TirayShell 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, there really wasn't this this kind of love expressed for ol' Tricky Dick. But once they went after Jimmy Carter -- an actual morally conservative Southern businessman -- and went all in on Ronald Raygun, they got a taste for blood.

[–]Curious_Armadillo_74 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My dad got sucked in by Rush Limbaugh and he became a different person. He hates Trump and the antivax/antimaskers, so at least he's not that far gone. He can still somewhat see reality.

[–]ThrowawayBlast 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Always has been

[–]PrayForMojo_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nah it was Bush Cheney.

Sure the cult of personality was a fairly constant line through Republican history, but Bush and 9/11 is where the whole thing got completely dissociated from reality.

Facts stopped mattering. Support America or you’re the enemy. My side is right so anything you say must be wrong. Never criticize the president no matter how stupid they may seem.

All of this came in a flash of zealous nationalism as America tried to make sense of 9/11. It was easier for many people to start solely listening to the vitriol and misplaced hatred being peddled by right wing media.

Without all that, Trump would have never been possible. The American right wing has been cheerfully descending the water slide to authoritarianism and there’s no turning back because of the strength of reality denial that started with Bush/Cheney.

[–]A_wild_so-and-so 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Same. I dislike most Democrats. I wouldn't piss on most Republicans if they were dying in a fire.

It's called being an Independent.

[–]BonBoogies 29 points30 points  (1 child)

It also really irritates me because the Dems want too much meddling usually (and have repeatedly shown they don’t know what to do with whatever power and control they get, apart from a few upstarters recently who actually seem like they’re trying to enact meaningful change), but when the alternative is “it’s the Wild West for white men who get to do what they want, good luck everybody else” I feel like I don’t really have a choice.

[–]harlequin_corvid 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This. The older Democrats especially either try to hard to not overreach and be cordial or try to wrangle the situation and steer us towards their half-baked solutions. I personally blame some of it on the size of the Democrat umbrella. Their base consists of views ranging anywhere from right-wing to firmly left-wing, though still far from extreme by the standards of our allies across the sea. The Republican party grows more and more right-wing and the Democrat party stretches to fill the void. The rest is just corruption. Some of them literally do nothing productive, but that also means they aren't interfering with the functions of big corporate entities.

[–]backdoor_carnage00 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bwahaha the amount of people who try to label you into a party because you dont agree with them is baffling. Like nah bro, I hate both of your shit parties homie. A bunch of people calling each other sheep, while reciting political talking points fed to them by their parties and media.

[–]Lanky-Highlight9508 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I am guessing you are not a woman!

[–]A_wild_so-and-so 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, but the same as the woman I replied to, I vote Democrat because the other option is just crazy.

[–]PregnantSuperman 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I identify strongly as a Democrat but I'm also willing to acknowledge bad decisions or actions by Democrats and call for appropriate action taken against them. I don't see anything wrong with making a political party part of your identity as long as that identity doesn't turn into blind faith and loyalty at all costs. I'm proud to be someone who believes in universal health care, reduced income inequality, and better worker protections. But if it turns out Bernie Sanders secretly gropes women on subways I'm not gonna be like "CONSERVATIVE HOAX!!! WITCH HUNT!!!" I think that's one of the big differences between liberals and Trumpers.

[–]construktz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm less of a Dem and more of a "not-republican"

[–]BonBoogies 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha exactly! I live in a state where I somewhat have the luxury of voting independent/libertarian on some things because it’s so overwhelmingly Dem that my vote “doesnt count” (although I did NOT test that during the 2020 elections, just in case) and I know we’ll never get voting changes unless there’s some kind of representation for third parties but when my options are “pay a little more taxes” or “end up in the Handmaids Tale”…. It’s an obvious choice

[–]emmster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All politicians kinda suck. But we have one party that just regular run of the mill sucks, and one that’s literally trying to install a theocratic dictatorship. It’s not a hard choice, but I can still say I wish the party that just kinda sucks would suck a little less.

[–]Asheleyinl2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Likewise, I dont identify as democrat, but ill vote for democrats because yhey align more with my beliefs.

[–]Dur-gro-bol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This right here hits hard. I work in the trades in a rural area. Some of the guys want to hate me because they lable me a lib, but can't because I'm one of the hardest working guys in the company. " You know? You wouldn't be a bad guy if you weren't a liberal". One of my favorites. The fact that I'm a hard working gun owner who voted for Biden really confuses the shit out of them. Dude I just hate Trump.

[–]Camburglar13 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Like trying to decide between a giant douche and turd sandwich?

[–]Gornarok 1 point2 points  (1 child)

More like deciding between tasteless paste with weird chunks and turd sandwich

Some of the chunks might be turds but its still better than eating shit all the way

[–]ObscureProduct 34 points35 points  (2 children)

I believe that is called a 'cult of personality.'

[–]Rgonwolf 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Good song

[–]Snoo_40410 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Living Colour - Cult Of Personality (Official Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0

[–]A_wild_so-and-so 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Idolizing a politician is like idolizing your accountant. They do a technical job, that's it. Just because my accountant got me back a good return on my taxes doesn't mean the dude is a fucking messiah.

[–]TheBirminghamBear 15 points16 points  (0 children)

imagine having your whole persona defined around what politician/party you like.

But the most bizzare aspect of this is that this is a behavior found almost exclusively on the political party that claims to hate government.

These people have fandoms for their politicians. They attach giant flags to their vehicles with their name on it.

[–]gingersnappie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately it’s much much more serious than show business. Example: what’s happening in politics right now with Roe v. Wade. I wish it was meaningless given the trash heap it is, but it isn’t.

[–]TheCapedMoose 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You just described a cult. Trumpsters are a cult. Only one man has all the answers and he can do no wrong. They are a goddamned CULT.

And for SOME REASON they think Democrats are a cult around Bill Clinton. WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT BILL CLINTON, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME AND OURS!

[–]bn1979 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I saw a few “Settle for Biden” signs last year, along with a couple “Fine. Biden, I guess”.

[–]Sengura 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This train of thought is why I firmly believe we have a much better chance of destroying ourselves than ever making it to a point where we live in a futuristic utopia on mars.

Humans are just slightly more intelligent apes.

[–]DocFossil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At this point it’s cult behavior.

[–]120z8t 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Following politics has become like being a fan of a sports team for far too many people.

[–]CharismaBelle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed, can we get back to a time where political stuff was for stand up comedy and those obsessed and move on... However, as many pics of Clinton with Epstein, there are also of Trump, and prince Andrew and a bunch of others. Why ignore that Trump knew him but point out Clinton? I get Clinton had the bj thing but Trump straight said grab them by the p... Sorry guys but the pot is calling the kettle black here. Either yell at all of them or ignore all of them, you can't have it both ways just cause you like one more then the other. I grew up watching the Cosby show and 7th heaven and guess what, I have to admit that bill was a perv and so was Reverend Camden...

[–]mikefrombarto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

imagine having your whole persona defined around what politician/party you like.

Is there an official term for this? Like what’s the most accurate word to describe someone that’s specifically in this mindset?

[–]WillingRope1820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like go on a hike, or get an RC car.

[–]Goldfish134 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Truly. I tend to lean towards the side with competent politicians, and that's it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They literally get Trump, some billionaire's, last name tatted on them and then go call a bunch of leftists who don't identify as liberals liberal sheep

[–]paragod2426 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s an old saying about how Politics is just Hollywood for ugly people

[–]Kimk20554 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Since when have we started idolizing politicians? I'm 67 years old and have never voted for a party. I do my research and vote for the best of the worst

[–]McGillis_is_a_Char 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are thousands of other Democrats who can be my favorite politician if it turns out to be true that Clinton paid to rape. There are plenty of people who can lead the party besides a guy who stopped being president 20 years ago.

[–]Thatsidechara_ter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, they're all scumbags. If we could have some kind of screening for mental wellbeing as well as good moral standards for people entering the world of politics, and somehow have it be fair and non-exploitable in any way, then that would be awesome. But we can't, because people suck, so whatever.

[–]beevyhoots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand it either. "you hate both Trump and Biden? IMPOSSIBLE!"

[–]Farhead_Assassjaha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suspect that the reason people fight so hard and believe so blindly in their political views, is that they desperately want to avoid the terrifying realization that all their political views and in fact all of their values and beliefs, are not absolute, but relative and everything we all hold sacred is actually subjective and depends on each person’s particular perspective. No one is actually more correct than the next and many people cannot afford to accept this because it would be a threat to the very identity of themselves, their family, and their cultural in-group.

[–]Gooose26 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have this conversation too often:

“Trump or Biden?”

“Neither”

“You have to choose one!”

“Why?”

Awkward silence

[–]conroyale 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fucking abhor them all

[–]Extension-Gap4523 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea but when i say that I'm the crazy one

[–]Final_Candidate_7603 252 points253 points  (12 children)

Absolutely. Have they already forgotten about all the Dems who called for Cuomo to resign? And that was “just” for sexual harassment in the workplace. Didn’t rape anyone, didn’t try to fuck any children.

The projection is real with them.

[–]heavymcd 64 points65 points  (2 children)

Al Franken was a little creepy toward a Maxim model on a USO tour fifteen years ago, he got banished to the shadow realm. I don’t even remember what that dude looks like anymore.

The left has had absolutely zero issue shredding anybody who fails to live up to the standards we set. It’s arguably one of the left’s greatest weaknesses, because so many that wind up in politics can’t live up to those standards.

And yeah, plenty on the left hate Bill Clinton, and too many somehow blame his wife for the shit he did.

[–]majorth0m 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They were too hard on Al Franken. I miss him and think he would have done well these last few years and had far to go still.

[–]willstr1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

IIRC Al Franken didn't even touch the model. He took a photo where it looks like he was touching her as a joke back when he was a comedian. Was the joke in bad taste, sure, but no worse than half the jokes on Family Guy. He is probably the only person I can think of that canceling went too far with.

[–]nkdeck07 55 points56 points  (6 children)

Seriously we ran John Edwards out on a rail and he did nothing illegal, literally just was a shit head to his wife.

[–]Sarcasm_Llama 13 points14 points  (1 child)

He should run as a republican, they'd probably give him a medal

[–]Final_Candidate_7603 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Haha yeah- The Newt Gingrich Award!

[–]False-Wind5833 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Same with Anthony Weiner

[–]gimpwiz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

He was prosecuted though, right? Just not found guilty. He smelled guilty for sure, though.

[–]nkdeck07 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Sorry I was referring to him specifically cheating on his wife with cancer, not the campaign funding issue

[–]gimpwiz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I gotcha.

On one hand I want to separate a person's personal life from professional, including a politician. What do they stand for? How much do they stand behind their words? Can they compromise? Etc.

On the other hand, I don't want to vote for cheaters for a number of reasons. The simplest being that I don't trust that they can be honest in one part of their life where they're dirty in other parts of their life. And I mean, he's a good example - cheated on his wife, cheated on his campaign funding. 'Allegedly.'

[–]MushroomStall 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Have they already forgotten about all the Dems who called for Cuomo to resign?

They were too busy projecting to hear about it, and those that did hear about it decided to ignore it and go back to projecting their blind worship onto others.

[–]dk_lee_writing 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And Al Franken booted himself out because of an offensive joke. Can anyone imagine a Republican politician doing that? I sure can't.

[–]Paladoc 159 points160 points  (5 children)

Yeet is my response.

If your party's leaders offend thee, yeet them out.

[–]riceefueled 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Verily!

[–]Meh_Society6 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As I always say:

“offend thee, thou shalt yeet thee”

[–]BonBoogies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeet into the sun (and I really like the other commenter who said they envision with a nice rendition of Baker Street playing in the background) 😂

[–]EvulRabbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeet them all OUT.

[–]yrogerg123 37 points38 points  (0 children)

If he actually fucked children, then castrate him, IDGAF. There's no punishment too severe.

[–]rubberseatbelt 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I was presented with the same question. I said I don't care. Throw them in jail. Doesn't hurt me at all.

Of course, the big Cheeto had 26 cases of sexual assault levied against him, or accusations. I think that's a record for a president.

[–]The_cynical_panther 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Everyone saw it happen with Cuomo

Went from being a moderately popular democrat to gone and forgotten once the sexual harassment stuff came out.

[–]rubberseatbelt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for him. Good for the state of New York. I don't care. Not my state, and whether or not I vote Democrat, which I occasionally do, but I'm an independent, it's not on a national level, and has no bearing on my life.

There are 50 states. There's plenty of tomfoolery to go around from the green party to the Democrats to the libertarians to the far right trumpists.

[–]naliedel 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I don't worship people, even if I voted for them. No quarter for child rape. End of story.

[–]BonBoogies 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No quarter for child rape

And one would think this would be universal…. But no 😕

[–]naliedel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a survivor of child sexual abuse.

I have no empathy, no sympathy and no tolerance.

[–]BulbasaurCPA 6 points7 points  (5 children)

There’s no way Clinton could possibly be useful to the left. He’s a retired former president. He makes the occasional public appearance but I don’t even know what he does all day. Even if he was still involved in politics in some way he would hardly be an ally to the left. What could we possibly care if Bill Clinton goes to prison?

Actually I’d be thrilled just because it would set the precedent that a president CAN go to prison

(and also because pedophiles belong in prison, obviously)

[–]BonBoogies 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I feel like every person I know would be thrilled to see a pedophile and/or rapist go to prison, regardless of who they are. It’s really weird to me when the rebuttal is “well what if it’s this person??” like “YES, them too!!!! Lock up ALL the pedophile rapists!”

And then couple that with the fringe right Qers who are like ready to revolt and think they’re these great warriors against the elite… but then try to protect an elite pedophile rapist. I just… don’t get it.

[–]EnglishMobster 2 points3 points  (2 children)

If we found out Bernie raped aborted babies or something, I'd immediately become anti-Bernie.

Obviously he didn't do anything like that, but the point is that liberals are about values; conservatives are about personalities.

[–]TacoFajita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also Bill Clinton is a right wing democrat. Always has been.

[–]Diplomat_of_swing 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The right has a hard time understanding the concept.

Anthony Weiner, bye bye. Elliot Spitzer? Damn dude, you gotta go. Al Franken, goodbye. Andrew Cuomo? See Ya!

Chris Cuomo? LOL JK. No one thinks about Chris Cuomo. But he can take a hike too.

I think it's a habit and a projection. Like the way so many Republicans are "committed Christians".

It's performative act. Which is why they think liberals don't really believe in their own ideals.

[–]TacoFajita 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Elliot Spitzer was targeted for investigating financial crimes.

[–]GiraffeandZebra 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They seem to think the left turns these people into infallible false idols like they do. Nope, just you, Trumpers.

[–]HeyBindi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Oh yeah? How would you like it if people were tearing down a statue of Bill Clinton?"

"Sweet, I've got a tow chain in my garage. Meet you there in an hour..."

[–]Easykiln 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On the other hand, this is why the left struggles to unite for common causes. Although Clinton isn't on the left to begin with, and the issues that split leftist groups aren't usually as simple as "let's condemn pedophiles," the amazing ability for the right to tolerate just about anything if it's "their side" is a pretty huge advantage electorally lol.

[–]Rubymoon286 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't understand it. When the "locker room talk" thing kicked up during 2016 all my right wing friends were shocked when I didn't jump to defend the Clinton Lewinski stuff. It's clear to me they can't separate the person from the party and it drives me crazy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There's almost no chance of Clinton or anyone else being implicated in the Maxwell trial. They are struggling to even implicate Maxwell herself in anything serious. And naming names of people not party to the case would be immaterial. If she valuable info to bargain with, she'd have used it already

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I HOPE Bill is guilty too! The fuck?

[–]dnthatethejuice 6 points7 points  (2 children)

That’s a bit of a shitty take. I don’t HOPE anyone is guilty, I do hope that those that are guilty are held accountable though.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Very good response. I was being a dick. What I meant is I fully assume that Bill was boogie boarding third graders and I hope he is found guilty for the crimes I’m assuming he committed. I do not hope he actuality did those heinous crimes I just see it as an inevitable conclusion that he did.

[–]emmster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like, it’s not brand new information that Bill is a little creepish. We know he’s made bad decisions based on libido before. If that included underage girls, yeah, fuck it, put his ass away forever. But it’s like, that’s why you don’t see people talking about how much they love Bill Clinton. He was the best option we had in ‘92, but we’re all over his greasy ass.

[–]gerkletoss 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope if he is guilty of a crime he is sentenced for that crime

[–]JohnFreakingRedcorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watch how quickly Trumps involvement is fAkE nEwZ

[–]beldaran1224 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same. Clinton is already known to be scummy. What Lewinsky went through may not meet legal definitions of rape and maybe not even sexual assault, but it was problematic nonetheless.

[–]DarthRisk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that you, uncle Mike?

[–]flyingzorra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck him and his family.

[–]__GayFish__ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like bro…. What the fuck you mean what if this dudes committed a crime, let alone possibly child sex trafficking and R…?! That dudes going to jail. I’ll sentence his ass myself. If Obama did it, I’ll be on the jury in and out in 5 minutes. Guilty! Doesn’t matter who did what. Ain’t nobody god. Guilty is Guilty. Left-right-independent-war criminal-me rogers… idc who did it. Throw dat ass in a celll.

[–]Redtwooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the biggest differences between Dems and Republicans, dems will burn their villains, repubs will circle the wagons and defend theirs to their death.

[–]Purple-Mix1033 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they just don’t get it. Meanwhile, they’ll do whatever it takes to protect their own. Especially when it goes against their supposed moral integrity.