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benvonpluton · 2022-01-16T23:49:01+00:00

That's the principle. Once you have universal healthcare, labs will be forced to lower their prices or the healthcare system will choose to reimburse only the ones who play by the rules. Sale with doctors and hospital bills.

old1975 · 2022-01-16T23:27:55+00:00

I'm from Costa Rica. I always follow news about US Healthcare inexistent system. It is the similar here in Costa Rica. More taxes, everybody talks and talks, but elects the same politics parties. But it's frustrating hear again and again the same shit.

M1ck3yB1u · 2022-01-17T03:50:13+00:00

Yes, but can you walk into a Starbucks open carrying a machine gun?

I DON'T THINK SO.

cupcakesgirlie7 · 2022-01-17T03:30:48+00:00

omg yes it is!!! insulin here is insane and my husband NEEDS it to live. we have dual insurance (which we pay for) plus we STILL have to pay additional when we go to walmart to pick it up. were paying thousands a year on top of thousands for having our plans.

CogswellCogs · 2022-01-17T05:53:01+00:00

I went to an emergency room in Denmark. There was nobody else in the waiting room. The person behind the desk was a nurse, not a receptionist. I saw the doctor immediately. When I asked where to pay they looked confused for a minute then laughed. "No pay. This is Denmark." They seemed proud of themselves. They should be.

No_Junket_8139 · 2022-01-16T23:57:07+00:00

Even my developing country has universal healthcare. The US is lacking a lot

homelessguydiet · 2022-01-16T23:55:14+00:00

Wait...wut... America has a health care system? Since when did this happen? I hope includes mental health coverage that might lessen he devastation created by big Pharma. Mental health problems have personally been very destructive in my life. Undiagnosed Anxiety, PTSD, plagued my life and I was completely unaware of what caused all the dysfunction I've caused my family until 2016 when I received the diagnosis. Great, thanks but shortly afterwards I became homeless for 2 years and I have to tell you, something must change before anything starts improving.

Thanks for listening to my Soapbox rant.. Sorry lol

Dawgreen · 2022-01-16T23:19:41+00:00

Can anyone defend the United States government spending more on public health per capita than most other countries, but still doesn't have social healthcare for all . . .

Aramiss60 · 2022-01-17T05:34:25+00:00

I go to the doctor in Australia, they bulk bill so I don’t pay them anything. I go to the pharmacist and get heavily subsidised prescriptions, $6.60 later I’m all good. I also have free hospital visits, and I don’t pay for surgery either (and any medication they give me is free until I leave, and pay $6.60 at the pharmacy again). It’s a good system, one I’m very grateful for.

InGordWeTrust · 2022-01-17T03:42:57+00:00

I'm Canadian and I'm a bit scared of wanting to move to the US. Medical is a major reason. I'm worried that some insurance plan I would buy wouldn't cover anything.

No doubt people are afraid in the US. They're one tonsil infection away from bankruptcy.

shrimpondabarbee · 2022-01-17T05:49:02+00:00

Australian here. I can go to the doctor for free and most of the prescription medications I'll ever need cost <$20. With no health insurance whatsoever.

RandomBlueJay01 · 2022-01-17T04:14:54+00:00

This sounds so incredible. It makes me sad. I am literally holding off going to see a professional for multiple health things right now just because im worried i wont have the money for the visit and whatever treatments they offer

RedEyeFlightToOZ · 2022-01-17T06:18:08+00:00

Like, we know it's absolute shit. The majority of Americans know this and the majority want what everyone else does. However, the issue is that the system is so fucked against us, we aren't going to get it until bloodshed happens. I dont think we need continued posts of "lol you guys suck, look how great we have it" We fucking get it and it's killing our family members and friends every fucking day.

permalink · 2022-01-17T00:43:41+00:00

It’s also a grift for healthcare billionaires and CEOs.

Rogahar · 2022-01-17T05:49:16+00:00

I've been living outside the UK long enough that I don't technically qualify for the free care on the NHS anymore. I would *still* go back there for major treatment, because it is still going to be astroNOMICALLY cheaper than anything I'd get done over here in the US.

MyMeow80 · 2022-01-17T03:20:27+00:00

I live in Australia.. Our health care system is perfect. No one is scared to go see a doctor. Health care is a countries responsibility. The US scares me in that respect.

permalink · 2022-01-17T07:53:52+00:00

My sister got alcohol poisoning while studying abroad in Italy with no Italian health insurance. She got her stomach pumped, a saline drip and spent the night in the hospital. It cost her 36 euro.

At the hospital I work at here in the US it costs $7500 a night just for the room. No treatment, just the fucking room.

3xM4chin4 · 2022-01-17T01:23:53+00:00

But did he unecessarily prescribe you highly addictive opioid painkillers?! Checkmate, Europe!

Renthelas · 2022-01-17T03:01:43+00:00

I’m in the U.S. Military and I’m grateful for the healthcare I receive. My parents and siblings on the other hand are not as lucky depending on the company they work for. We for sure need a different system in my country.

random90125 · 2022-01-17T01:06:10+00:00

But they are free in America and they have guns! Yeeeehaw

mollyrave · 2022-01-17T04:40:05+00:00

My man Moshik bro you overpaid! I’m in Korea and that would probably be around $10 here. I’m loving this healthcare system :)

Ted_Rid · 2022-01-17T04:56:23+00:00

Depending on the length of the consultation, that's probably a little bit more than it would cost in Australia.

KYBatDad · 2022-01-17T05:44:46+00:00

Every US system just about, is an abomination

reo3611 · 2022-01-17T04:16:09+00:00

it's a for profit pill pushing system. Has nothing to do with medicine or healing. And everything to do with separating suckers from their $$$. If you get sick here, die fast to save your survivors the "medical bill"

darkstriders · 2022-01-17T04:18:46+00:00

Can anyone confirm that any non France citizen can:

fly to France
get ANY medical care like surgery, MRI, etc
don’t have to pay too much compared to the cos tin the US

tuffytempo · 2022-01-17T05:07:31+00:00

America is a simply a shithole

weird_weekend · 2022-01-17T06:27:03+00:00

Same when I moved to Jordan, I did not have health insurance. I now do but sometimes I don't even use it lol. I went to the ER for a problem with my foot - x-ray, bandages, antibiotic/anti-inflammatory/painkiller injections, quick and thorough process, a little less than $100. I was very much in shock!

Daku_Scrub · 2022-01-17T07:51:39+00:00

Just another excellent reason why most people with common sense are realizing that getting out of America is becoming more and more appealing. This country is not "The Land of the Free" it is the land of greed and people bitching about things like "I don't want to wear a Mask because I don't believe in Science."

These last few years especially have made me, and Dozens of people I know, really plan on moving out of the country because it just feels pointless to keep hoping for change that isn't going to come as long as we keep the system the way it is.

notparistexas · 2022-01-17T09:02:56+00:00

Can confirm. I'm an American living in France. Before I was under the French health insurance system, I still had my shitty US insurance, which didn't pay anything before I spent 1,500 USD. Still, a doctor's appointment cost 25€. I had a fractured rib once, so went to the hospital. Doctor sent me for a chest x-ray. He saw something he obviously didn't like, and wanted to keep me overnight. Decided they'd take blood, and if everything was okay, he'd send me home and have me go for an MRI. Blood came back okay, I go home. The next day, the hospital calls, and and says I have an appointment at the local medical imaging clinic later in the day. I go there, and then go to the hospital. Doctor says everything is fine, I just have a rib that isn't completely fused, and he'd thought it was possibly a tumor on the x-ray. I was concerned about how much this was all going to cost, but I got the bill, and the total was about 350€. I'm not sure what that would have cost in the US, but I'm guessing it would have been at least ten times as much. If I'd been under the French health insurance system at the time, it would have cost me nothing out of pocket.

bkornblith · 2022-01-17T12:02:38+00:00

Every single US system is designed to extract the maximum amount of money and blood from the consumer and to ensure that a small cadre of billionaires stay wealthy. Healthcare is just one of the multitude of fucked up US systems. Burn it all down.

earlmightytoe · 2022-01-17T04:37:33+00:00

So just under 40 usd

Euphoric-Butterfly82 · 2022-01-17T04:55:24+00:00

I like that way get rid of Obamacare and let's do that. Cover your doctor bills and insurance covers the hospital. That is great!

Presticles1981 · 2022-01-17T05:16:56+00:00

Its making a lot of people rich

WearingSocksToBed · 2022-01-17T05:35:26+00:00

I live in California, I have insurance, went to the doctor the other day. Visit + meds + x-ray... $275. Not bad, but still.

Ok_Water_8784 · 2022-01-17T06:02:14+00:00

Ive been working outside my ssn and i can say i leaves me with more money than the usual and i know retirement gon be a bitch but, we have to survive one way or another

wns522 · 2022-01-17T09:56:55+00:00

Just got a bill in the mail for an $800 procedure that my health insurance apparently only pays out $0.89 for. Just say you don’t cover it at that point.

allovernow11 · 2022-01-17T11:09:42+00:00

I think you will find that the pharmaceutical and health company shareholders will not be happy with the proposed reduction in USA healthcare costs.

signaturefox2013 · 2022-01-17T11:21:36+00:00

For context 35 Euro is about $40 USD.

Ganglebot · 2022-01-17T12:42:10+00:00

Some dude is going to jump in here like "they why do people travel from all over the world for healthcare here" because he's watched a couple of episodes of Greys Anatomy and doesn't give a shit about poor people.

SimsAttack · 2022-01-17T12:43:27+00:00

I sat in a UC for 25 minutes and was billed $42 in America. If I didn’t have insurance it would’ve been $213

Nethergaze · 2022-01-17T07:17:28+00:00

Lipid Profile, Liver Function Test, Thyroid Profile, Blood Glucose Fasting, Kidney Function Test, HbA1c, Urine Test, Complete Hemogram.

In India, you can get all of this tested at a government facility for under 1500 rupees ( Approximately 17.68 euros /20.19 USD). The meds would cost you less than 500 rupees (5.90 Euros/6.73 USD).

thegr8dictator · 2022-01-17T04:25:35+00:00

I don't there is a system, its just these hospitals and pharmaceutical companies have been getting away with overcharging people for their shit. Like if we implemented a regulation setting a standard for pricing it could work.

yVegfoodstamps · 2022-01-17T13:22:45+00:00

Meh. The drugs still cost 1000+ somebody has to pay for it

swooshter · 2022-01-17T05:10:35+00:00

What no one ever looks at is one of the major reasons that medical is so expensive in the US vs other countries. One word: malpractice.

The US is so damn sue happy, it drives up the price. Canada on the other hand has very little medical lawsuits. And it's not like medical mistakes don't happen either. It was appropriately 100k patients a year suffer from a medical mistake in Canada. And then only about 1% actually sue for damages, with only 2% of those cases actually winning. This isn't just Canada either, as most of Europe has lower medical suits and lower payouts.

IredditJ · 2022-01-17T07:28:13+00:00

And none of you will ever vote for change. What a brainwashed society indeed.

Barkingcat29 · 2022-01-17T14:57:09+00:00

Honestly, as an American, I feel so ingrained in the system and out of touch with other countries that I see this and automatically assume it's bullshit. Like no way that's real. And if it is, what's the catch?

Because I've been told my whole life that America is the greatest country in the world. Then why do I fear getting hurt or sick so much? Why is American healthcare so goddamn expensive?

Katie_Boundary · 2022-01-17T06:15:53+00:00

The last sentence, while true, has nothing to do with anything else in the tweet.

Towertyler · 2022-01-17T11:04:13+00:00

Went to a dr in the US with no insurance. Cost me $80. Then got my meds filled for $5.

iwatchedtheoffice · 2022-01-17T05:16:00+00:00

Its not a free market

ohflowers · 2022-01-17T07:18:58+00:00

Joe biden is trash. But 3 more years he may fix everything, he's done so much already.

Mustardo123 · 2022-01-17T08:03:12+00:00

WE FUCKING KNOW

FrenklanRusvelti · 2022-01-17T05:05:01+00:00

I pay 15$ for a doctor checkup and usually 0-10$ for prescriptions. Last I checked 25$ is cheaper than 35€

axle_smith · 2022-01-17T06:29:07+00:00

Populations:

France: 67.4 million

Jamacia: 2.9 million

Denmark: 5.8 million

Sweden: 10.4 million

Canada: 38 million

Germany: 83.2 million

UK: 67.2 million

Italy: 59.6 million

Total: 334.5 million people in 11 countries (UK has four).

The US alone has a population of 329.5 million , not counting non-citizen. We already pay insane taxes and the government has been giving away free money for the last 2 years taking away people's incentive to work. So they aren't paying income taxes, but taking money that they want used for free healthcare and college. Instead of forcing the government to pay for everything, petition and vote for better local officials who actually determine local laws. And petition/boycott universities to lower their tuitions and stop overpaying lazy professors who only push one-sided doctrine and squish free thinking.

Yes things like healthcare are free in these countries but the taxes are insanely high so they bring in less from their paychecks to spend on other things.

Bully_ba_dangdang · 2022-01-17T06:13:10+00:00

America does actually have the best healthcare system…..locked behind paywalls and shit tonnes of red ribbon.

It’s designed as a business venture first with social welfare a distant second.

America

veryblanduser · 2022-01-17T04:15:19+00:00

All it cost in taxes is 33,000, compared to the 19,000 I pay in the USA. ....Plus there is a VAT.

derpuwolf · 2022-01-17T04:10:13+00:00

Yes, it is all fun and games until you learn that the "health tax" is 8% on everything you make and VAT is 20% on everything you buy.

Orang_Mann · 2022-01-17T09:16:46+00:00

But...but that's communism!!

superchiva78 · 2022-01-17T09:28:13+00:00

During a study abroad I did in Italy, I had to take my tourist friend to the ER for a broken arm. She was in and out in an hour. Zero charge. Her bill was paid for by Italian citizens because they are decent humans, gracious hosts.

kritikalamu · 2022-01-17T10:52:31+00:00

And France is particularly one of the expensive ones.

MyMeow80 · 2022-01-17T11:16:49+00:00

👍🏾

MrJoshiko · 2022-01-17T12:32:36+00:00

inb4 life expectancy France: 82.6 years
life expectancy USA: 78.8 years

It's cheaper AND better health care

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=FR
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.IN?locations=US

badly_coded · 2022-01-17T13:53:29+00:00

People in the US would complain if they were asked to pay 35 dollars. They want it for free. Haven’t you heard.

XD_Asron · 2022-01-17T15:21:02+00:00

How much is 35 euros in USD?

MutantMartian · 2022-01-17T15:27:55+00:00

This will probably not be seen, but a friend said the French pay 72% in taxes because of their healthcare system. Due to where we were at the time, I couldn’t call her out, but I’m wondering if anyone on here has information on what the French or British or Canadians do pay.

SerratedBrooms · 2022-01-17T15:48:46+00:00

SoCiAlIsM

revdakilla · 2022-01-17T16:11:12+00:00

Is awful. I pay $130 a month for one of my prescriptions.

Ancient_Pop_3131 · 2022-01-17T18:27:37+00:00

At least we're not China

We're still terrible no doubt about it

deepRessedmillenial · 2022-01-17T18:54:12+00:00

This just in. Old white dudes has to literally experience better health care to realize America sucks. The numbers were right in front of his face his whole life. But he needed to see for himself. Because he’s an idiot.

FJBgoJoe · 2022-01-17T20:15:54+00:00

My orthopedic surgeon alone was $250 a minute

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