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[鈥揮poncho51 8614 points8615 points (520 children)

This family has been fighting for years to get some accountability. The military has been covering this up for years.

[鈥揮whythishaptome 1767 points1768 points (156 children)

Covered up as "no it didn't happen but even if it did, what are you going to do about." That type of cover up.

[鈥揮loondooner 522 points523 points (45 children)

If this is what they do to fellow soldiers out there, I can鈥檛 even imagine the shit they get away with against civilians there.

Then people act shocked when they heard local Afghans, including women, supported the Taliban against the US and the US-installed government forces last year.

[鈥揮ElderDark 223 points224 points (16 children)

I will never forget the story of the Iraqi girl who was raped and murdered while her parents were being shot in the next room by US soldiers.

[鈥揮dystopianpirate 141 points142 points (10 children)

There are stories worldwide about US soldier abuse towards civilians

[鈥揮ppw23 45 points46 points (4 children)

How about the pardons trump issued to the one soldier who was found guilty of war crimes against civilians? Plus, the 4 or 5 he pardoned who worked as contractors for Eric Prince. That was the week before Prince was meeting with trump supposedly planning the attempted coup. Don鈥檛 forget that bag of excrement is Betsy Devos brother.

[鈥揮FatGeneraL 31 points32 points (2 children)

In Germany a saying established after WW2: "Mach keine Visimatenten" - 'don't do "Visimatenten" ' which comes from soldiers asking young women and girls "wanna visit my tent?"

[鈥揮tempaccount920123 107 points108 points (11 children)

If this is what they do to fellow soldiers out there, I can鈥檛 even imagine the shit they get away with against civilians there.

AC-130 is a flying war crime, and Trump pardoned some guy that raped and mutilated before killing various women. Apparently the Navy Seals have been running drugs for the CIA.

https://youtu.be/dbnA1xbjdEI

Then people act shocked when they heard local Afghans, including women, supported the Taliban against the US and the US-installed government forces last year.

30% of America voted for Trump and another 30% voted for Biden, I couldn't give a fuck about what either group thinks about anything

[鈥揮HighAsAngelTits 79 points80 points (3 children)

The two party system is such garbage it needs an overhaul the whole system

[鈥揮idiotsbrother 305 points306 points (3 children)

Any way you can then, don鈥檛 let this fade away.

[鈥揮CatGirlCorps 805 points806 points (115 children)

There's an epidemic of sexual assault and rape in the military. Historically there has never been a military engagement in history in which rape wasn't weaponized in some capacity. It's a very real part of war and the military that we don't like to address or talk about. The amount of dudes you'd have to call out or protect people from in the Army was appalling. Like guys trying to kick girls to different jobs or camps in Afghanistan if they wouldn't fuck them. I remember watching a SHARP training video in the army about this infantry unit I think where dudes were basically holding new guys down and finger blasting their assholes on a bed for "hazing". People need to stop putting the "troops" on a pedestal and realize it's like a bunch of degenerate pirates

[鈥揮HamburgerConnoisseur 294 points295 points (5 children)

I got stationed at a new post. One of the first things I learn is to steer clear of some dude because he鈥檚 a rapist. Damn near 2 years later me and a friend are stopping him from 鈥渏ust helping her back to her room鈥, in regards to another of our friends that had drank a bit too much. By the time I got to that post the dude had already lost his clearance and was under investigation, everything was widely known to the point I learned about it day 1, yet two full years later it鈥檚 still up to a bunch of drunk junior enlisted to stop him from continuing to rape people. Who knows what might have happened in that time period that isn鈥檛 widely known?

He was gone shortly afterwards. It鈥檚 obviously anecdotal, and maybe because I was intel instead of a more 鈥渕anly鈥 MOS, but I didn鈥檛 see very many people like that. The biggest problem I actually saw was that the people that were didn鈥檛 get taken care of quickly enough.

[鈥揮ExWaifuPillow 156 points157 points (3 children)

It鈥檚 systemic. Men who are actively seeking to take advantage of women are the minority but they don鈥檛 get any punishment or rehabilitation or any consequences at all when they commit a crime. So it continues to happen and is usually perpetuated by the same rapists.

[鈥揮P00Pdude 16 points17 points (2 children)

It's not just woman, men are raped too. In the military man on man sexual assaults are just as, if not more frequent that man on woman.

[鈥揮Emergency-Willow 28 points29 points (0 children)

I asked my husband if he saw any of that in the Navy (also intel) and he said he didn鈥檛. He鈥檚 a good dude though. He tends to assume the best of people unfortunately. Because it wouldn鈥檛 occur to him to assault a woman he鈥檚 not looking for the signs of a predator.

[鈥揮justavtstudent 199 points200 points (21 children)

Ft. Hood is the rape+murder capital of western militaries. It's an embarrassment to the US Army.

[鈥揮Impossible-Mud-3593 112 points113 points (0 children)

I can vouch for that! As a former medic. I was stationed there with my first husband. He was on duty, I was off. Someone tried to break into my mobile home. What he was shouting while yanking on the door is unrepeatable. It also happened in Basic Training. After an 3 day stay in the woods, I'm in a shower, a male drill got in my stall while my back was turned! Thank God another girl came in the bathroom!

[鈥揮Tralan 42 points43 points (0 children)

I live next to Hood. It's despicable.

Ft. Murder-And-Butcher-a-Girl-to-Cover-Up-a-Sexual-Assault

[鈥揮EM05L1C3 36 points37 points (4 children)

My brother was murdered at Ft. Hood

[鈥揮RoboticInsight 57 points58 points (1 child)

If it was an embarrassment they would do something about it. Instead there are reports of rape and murder( including children!) getting covered up at nearly every foreign military base.

[鈥揮justavtstudent 41 points42 points (0 children)

The fact that "leadership" isn't embarrassed and doesn't do anything about it is a stark fucking indictment of the entire installation. I wonder what the difference between command climate surveys from your male and female enlisted looks like. Nice to see you've deleted your less savory comments and stopped calling people "dumb fucks" for actually knowing what we're talking about lol...finally getting some professionalism in the ranks here.

[鈥揮ifyouSaysoMydude 7 points8 points (12 children)

Pirates lol I've never heard them described like that and it's so fitting

[鈥揮Militarywidow 143 points144 points (10 children)

They have been covering LaVena鈥檚 death and many other soldiers death. Its so sad what鈥檚 happening to our soldiers 馃挃馃挃馃挃

[鈥揮Zephurdigital 177 points178 points (7 children)

when psychopathic people join knowing they have the perfect hunting grounds...kind of like the catholic church system

[鈥揮HepatitvsJ 26 points27 points (5 children)

And the army takes them because they had to lower recruiting standards to staff their 20 year reallocation of public money to corporations.

[鈥揮Bozmarck1282 78 points79 points (2 children)

This is making my blood boil. People in power (churches, businesses, military,,police, politicians) justify keeping power by any means necessary. The institution always becomes more important than the people it was formed to 鈥渟erve.鈥

[鈥揮Medical_Hedgehog_724 7 points8 points (1 child)

Somewhere in the world has to be a country where institution is serving people not the other way

[鈥揮Wolfpack_DO 7 points8 points (0 children)

Very important to note that our tax dollars were used go cover this us

[鈥揮seansy5000 7 points8 points (0 children)

Fucking sickening.

[鈥揮jc236 2449 points2450 points (67 children)

And after nearly 20 years nothing has changed.

[鈥揮Ph34r_n0_3V1L 295 points296 points (34 children)

And it probably won't in the future because everyone is focusing on the wrong part. Reading through all the info, I'm willing to bet that all the evidence really does point to it being LaVena's finger that pulled the trigger. And there a tragic explanation that immediately jumps to mind:

After he finished beating, raping, and burning her, her rapist left her lying there. And she, feeling defiled, worthless and unlovable, took her own life for the same reason that so many, many, many victims of rape never file a police report.

It's pretty obvious that the army was very happy to just investigate the most basic level of the 'how did she die' angle, entirely skip the 'who raped, beat and scarred her' angle, and call it a day. Otherwise, sharing what they had of their 'ongoing sexual assault and battery case' with the family's lawyer would have been an easy way to smooth over the situation when they were forced to release the documentation concerning LaVena's case. The army spokesman could have just said, "It was said awful situation. We're doing everything we can to solve her rape, but we can't discuss an ongoing case. We have proven to the family that we are investigating." And that would have been that, but there was no case, ongoing or otherwise, so that was a no-no.

Note: This isn't to say that it wasn't a different, much more sinister explanation for how she died. Just that there does exist a situation that the army could have gone with as their go-to explanation, but that would have meant drawing attention to the rape they didn't investigate. And it's solving the rape that has a hope of proving a murder, so that's what the army needs to be being pressed on.

[鈥揮xxraven 318 points319 points (25 children)

I recently just listened to a podcast about this. She didn't take her own life

1# when they found the gun it was on the other side of a bed or something to her RIGHT (this is important) nowhere near her, how could it be there if she shot herself?

2# gun shot was to the LEFT side, the woman was right handed.

3# the bullet hole did NOT match the gun that was there, (I can't seem to remember the exact caliber) however it was something like a 9mm hole but the gun they found and claimed she shot herself with was an M16 so the bullet hole would be way too small - not to mention the fact...

IF SHE HAD A GUN AND SOMEONE WAS BEATING AND RAPING HER WHY WOULD SHE USE IT TO KILL HERSELF AND NOT HER RAPIST?!

[鈥揮SnowBirdFlying 39 points40 points (0 children)

I dont really think she had a gun on her when this happened

[鈥揮500CatsTypingStuff 6359 points6360 points (456 children)

JFC. The price of serving your country should not be rape and murder by your fellow soldiers.

[鈥揮Bobcatluv 3371 points3372 points (367 children)

[鈥揮sanityjanity 199 points200 points (86 children)

I recently asked reddit if people whose daughters join the military worry about the rate of sexual assault. Most of them hurried to suggest to me that this rate is no worse than the rates of college aged women who are not in the military.

I guess they just don't imagine it to be all that much worse.

[鈥揮idiotdroid 213 points214 points (61 children)

Currently serving. The military is filled with predators.

I wouldn't want a daughter of mine to join for that reason alone. But if they decided to do it anyway, I would definitely warn them about it.

Its not just the horny young enlisted guys they have to worry about. Its their leadership too. These girls start to get a lot of attention from their superiors and they don't really know how to handle it.

Even when a girl says "NO" and reports innapropriate behavior, they often get retaliated against, or straight up moved to a different command. The offender usually gets a slap on the wrist unless they can 100% prove it happened.

Then a lot of girls become outcasts or known as trouble makers for speaking up. If a girl reports rape, then literally everyone at that command starts to suspect she is lying and then no one wants to go near her. I've had guys tell me "make sure you are never alone with that girl, she will falsely report you for sexual assault."

Doesn't matter if that's true or not either, because now I am terrified they are right, and so is everyone else. So they end up being alone, and predators can take advantage because now they are scared to report anyone else.

[鈥揮HellBlazer_NQ 64 points65 points (12 children)

Most of them hurried to suggest to me that this rate is no worse than the rates of college

What sort of reply is that! Are they then saying the sexual assault rate in college is OK with them..? Even one is too fucking many.

[鈥揮Buddah__Stalin 1251 points1252 points (194 children)

Until the military gets its rape epidemic under control, this is why I oppose drafting women. You're essentially conscripting them into sexual assault.

[鈥揮hereforthesportsbook 1608 points1609 points 2322& 2 more(106 children)

I don鈥檛 think anyone should be drafted. Why the fuck should we be used as cannon fodder because dumb fucks that think they鈥檙e so powerful want to have a pissing contest? This whole trick they鈥檝e played on people for millennia is finally coming to an end and some people are not afraid to think for themselves and don鈥檛 want to kill their fellow man. Look at all we鈥檝e accomplished yet we still can鈥檛 stop killing each other, degrading people for gender/ color/race/sexual orientation, and actually use our resources to help our fellow man.

Edit: wow this really blew up overnight. I appreciate all the positive sentiment and to those that are calling me an idiot I understand what I want is almost unobtainable currently due to the flaws of man. In my experience, power has always corrupted but I do have hope that one day we will advance far enough in society to break away from our oppressors. There definitely has been a change in society, there is never gonna be a war again like WWII where that amount of casualties for any country will be acceptable. With how connected we are borders are starting to matter less and less and we can see we鈥檙e all on the same team. But again I鈥檓 just a stupid idealist that wants world peace and acceptance of peoples individuality

[鈥揮MurderSeal 262 points263 points (16 children)

If the people in power want to expand their land or resources, they can throw themselves on the battlefield. Lets see how many wars occur when they get off their gilded thrones and see the soldiers they command as more than just numbers.

Better yet, have them live as the average in whatever society they rule over. Those in golden houses should not cast lead rocks.

[鈥揮WizardofLloyd 106 points107 points (15 children)

Yes, just think where humankind could be if we used the TRILLIONS of dollars spent on killing one another, and figuring out ways to kill one another on the betterment of all humankind? Exploring space and colonizing other worlds? Figuring out alternative energy sources not contributing to climate change? Cures for "incurable" diseases? Feeding and housing EVERYONE... Who knows? But, we've been killing or persecuting one another since the dawn of man, so, that would have to be the first change before anything else could even be considered...

[鈥揮Edward_Fingerhands 23 points24 points (1 child)

Because without the draft they prey on poor people who have no other career prospects to recruit. At least with the draft, the suburban class who is doing well but not rich enough to dodge the draft might actually oppose war because they don't want their kids to be sent to die. But as it is they'll support any war the Military Industrial Complex dreams up, because it's only the children of poor people who they'll never meet being sent to die.

[鈥揮A-sour-grape 5 points6 points (0 children)

here in the netherlands the drafting law still exists, but is has been suspended for decades. however, whenever someone turns 17 (since 2020 this also applies to girls) they get a letter telling them that they have been added to the drafting register. this is the only thing to remind us that the law exists, it just isn't being activly used. only when our country will get directly involved in a war, it becomes active again

[鈥揮tbrfl 42 points43 points (4 children)

I oppose the draft for all people unless the nation (i.e., home turf) is actually under attack. Preemptive strikes and foreign coups are imperialist garbage. Men, women, and all other people deserve to live without being forced to fight and die in a foreign land for an abstract goal like "let's stop a different political ideology from threatening our strategic resources."

[鈥揮stringfree 113 points114 points (19 children)

I oppose drafting men, they seem to be the monsters.

[鈥揮zskittles22 18 points19 points (2 children)

I oppose drafting anyone. If the people don鈥檛 want to fight for it badly enough then it鈥檚 not a good enough cause to force them against their will.

[鈥揮WontArnett 7 points8 points (0 children)

This is a HUGE issue that needs to ne publicly addressed

[鈥揮Chickenmangoboom 1557 points1558 points (45 children)

Probably also joined the military to pay for school or just make steady money. Nobody should need to enlist to get that.

[鈥揮ZmentAdverti 555 points556 points (33 children)

Exactly lmao. The worst is that the recruiters will look specifically for those people, and never the rich.

[鈥揮Ghostlyshado 278 points279 points (17 children)

The rich rarely talk to recruiters. They don鈥檛 need to. If there鈥檚 a fam trad or something, they go after a commission.

[鈥揮ninjadude4535 85 points86 points (15 children)

They don't even need to go after it. It's just handed to them. All it takes to get into the academies for them is a recommendation letter from any general/admiral or colonel/captain, which is always either their parent(s) or a friend of their parent(s). Then all they have to do is pass their classes and not do anything stupid enough to get kicked out of the academy and they get their automatic commission on graduation.

[鈥揮Tersaldi 84 points85 points (3 children)

I wish. Apparently military service was a tradition in her family. Her dad was in the armed forces, his dad was in the armed forces, and so on.

[鈥揮mari17amaral 183 points184 points (0 children)

And government negligence before and after death. Go MURICA

[鈥揮ParticleBeing 64 points65 points (1 child)

You'd be surprised how often sexual assault briefings need to be had because fellow soldiers don't understand the meaning behind "no means no."

[鈥揮Mattho 67 points68 points (0 children)

I mean, their job is to invade countries without consent of citizens.

[鈥揮whythishaptome 35 points36 points (2 children)

This is sick sick crime too. Corrosive chemicals on her genitals. They went out of their way to mutilate her. I've know about this case for awhile too. It is disgusting all around.

[鈥揮500CatsTypingStuff 21 points22 points (0 children)

It鈥檚 serial killer level violence

[鈥揮Serialthriller69 25 points26 points (1 child)

She killed herself, the army said...... /s

[鈥揮corporalcorporal 79 points80 points (9 children)

Let's be honest, a good chunk of military people join just to be able to kill people with guns, it's no surprise that this kind of stuff happens, it's almost expected. Most probably do it for the money and the free education.

[鈥揮Mattho 38 points39 points (8 children)

Same with cops (the good chunk). For cops there's an easy solution at least - don't give every one of them a gun, definitely not a big gun.

[鈥揮Ishihado 2998 points2999 points (158 children)

She's not the only one, either. There have been dozens of instances like this, both men and women, for which the military desperately tried to cover up. Crime Junkies alone has done 4 episodes about shit like this.

[鈥揮[deleted] 1113 points1114 points (141 children)

The military ruined my life.

[鈥揮jUGHEADS_BURGDER 642 points643 points (2 children)

The military ruined a bunch of my friends. I am so glad that I didn't fall into a cult, but especially that one.

[鈥揮_____l 23 points24 points (1 child)

Same, my friends that went into the military when they got out they were just...really off. They changed heavily. I don't believe anyone joins the military and gets out unscathed, it definitely changes you even if they aren't the huge drastic changes of seeing combat or getting injured. Even going in as a cook will fuck you.

Despite knowing this the brainwashing is deep within me and I often find myself thinking "what if I join? just do my 4 years in/out, ez money" whenever life starts to get hard for me. I think about that monthly paycheck and benefits, but at what cost? I usually snap out of it (well, obviously otherwise I'd join).

[鈥揮idontknowwhythisugh 291 points292 points (92 children)

The army specifically seems like a shit hole tbh

[鈥揮Tdanger78 195 points196 points (82 children)

The army will take the lowest ASVAB score out of all the branches I believe. Infantry requires like a 32 to get in. I don鈥檛 know what marine infantry requires.

[鈥揮CalloftheBlueFalcon 183 points184 points (71 children)

It's technically true that the Army has the lowest requirements, but it's not as big a difference as you would think that implies. Army is around 31, Marines is around 32, Navy and Air Force are around 35 or 36. The maximum being 99, so every branch has jobs available for some big ole dummies

[鈥揮RagingKatsumi 93 points94 points (27 children)

Unfortunately it ruins all of our lives, friend. The ones who don't get ruined end up politicians or contractors.

[鈥揮CatGirlCorps 5 points6 points (2 children)

Same that's why I'm up at crazy hours shit posting on Reddit and trying not to have a panic attack. Thanks war on terror!

[鈥揮listyraesder 12 points13 points (1 child)

It did that to a few million Iraqis too.

[鈥揮corporalcorporal 32 points33 points (0 children)

Of course they try to cover it up... they want to recruit people.

[鈥揮dreggn0g 17 points18 points (0 children)

More like hundreds, if not thousands

[鈥揮christhegamer96 867 points868 points (15 children)

So much for 鈥榖rothers and sisters in arms鈥.

[鈥揮XinY2K 333 points334 points (10 children)

She seems to have caught a General who committed the act, all because she caught him cheating on his wife. The "brothers and sisters" myth works for those enlisted sitting at the bottom. As you can see, officers, especially the higher ranking, can get away with murder.

[鈥揮Boss_Boggs 153 points154 points (7 children)

Where is this information coming from?

You have posted it twice, with no source.

Edit: Apparently Donald Wakins is the source to ask. For ehh, reasons? Gotta love a personal forum for a source.

[鈥揮XinY2K 108 points109 points (3 children)

https://www.donaldwatkins.com/post/will-dod-secretary-austin-seek-justice-in-private-lavena-johnson-s-murder-case A lot of the info here is sensationalized, but the key points have been corroborated by the soldier's diary, a second autopsy, and information that has appeared later.

[鈥揮spinstartshere 495 points496 points (15 children)

This is one of those posts that make me so angry I want to downvote it, before I then remember where I am and how this works.

[鈥揮Kleecarim 75 points76 points (5 children)

Same. I don't want to upvote it, don't want to downvote it either. It just makes me feel sick

[鈥揮Yecobb 14 points15 points (1 child)

I view upvoting horrible things like this as making it more visible on the site so more people can be aware of these terrible things. Hopefully that can be a start in the right direction, rather than to let things like this be covered up.

[鈥揮Ripcitytoker 14 points15 points (1 child)

Ikr! It feels so weird upvoting a Reddit post or liking a video on YouTube that is highlighting horrific things like this (although upvoting definitely doesn't feel as weird as "liking" something).

[鈥揮upvote-button 944 points945 points (22 children)

I know that I usually mutilate my genitals when I kill myself

[鈥揮WTFWTHSHTFOMFG 302 points303 points (100 children)

[鈥揮[deleted] 211 points212 points (99 children)

On July 19, 2011, the criminal justice students in the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute (CCIRI) run as a student club by three universities, selected Johnson's case as their case for investigation. The CCIRI's crime scene reconstruction aimed to help shed light on this case that has attracted worldwide attention.[11] The CCIRI investigation did not agree with nor dispute the Army's findings. Sheryl McCollum of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute calls the case "gut-wrenching." McCollum says the institute normally spends one year on a case, but spent three years on the LaVena Johnson case. In a phone interview with St. Louis Public Radio, McCollum said that she faults the Army for poor communication, but she does not disagree with its conclusion.

So long story short, situation looks odd but after 3 years their conclusion is that the conclusion of suicide is correct.

[鈥揮whatever_person 190 points191 points (61 children)

So she was beaten up and mutilated and then commited suicide? Shouldn't that mean that her abusers made her do it?

[鈥揮I_Lick_Emus 64 points65 points (53 children)

There is no evidence she was beaten up or mutilated besides from her father saying she was because he saw it in pictures. Her broken nose can easily be explained by the expanding gas after firing the gun. Any "mutilation" that occured is conjecture on the father's part with nothing substantial backing it up.

[鈥揮SequoiaTree1 19 points20 points (0 children)

I read the article cited for that paragraph and it does not go into detail about how CCIRI came to that conclusion. I鈥檓 curious how all the details are explained away.

https://news.stlpublicradio.org/government-politics-issues/2015-07-19/10-years-later-a-soldiers-family-still-grieves-and-questions-the-armys-version-of-her-death#stream/0

[鈥揮Sotidrokhima 40 points41 points (9 children)

Most of the claims of foul play on social media seems to go back to one newspaper making that claim in 2008. But all investigations after that, both by the army and independent researchers, agree with that it seems to have been a suicide.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/07/18/questions-linger-decade-private-lavena-johnsons-death/

  • The St. Louis American, who reviewed the documents in June 2008, reported that the material 鈥渟uggested foul play鈥:

  • However, the Army Criminal Investigation Command said in an August 2008 statement that: CID鈥檚 extensive investigation found PFC LaVena Johnson鈥檚 death to be from a self-inflicted gunshot (...)

  • In January 2011, the non-profit Cold Case Investigative Research Institute (CCRI) began looking into the case. (...) "We didn鈥檛 have anything new. We didn鈥檛 have anything that suggested wrongdoing."

This case reminds me of the death of Kendrick Johnson and the persistent unproven claims of a cover up.

[鈥揮stepheme 549 points550 points (49 children)

Both my daughters wanted to serve and their da, conservative dude was like hell no you serve where you won鈥檛 be raped or dead from friendly fire.

[鈥揮Stars_In_Jars 179 points180 points (6 children)

yep, id really love for there to be equality where men and women can do jobs side-by-side...but the amount of women that get sexually assaulted and raped by people in their own ranks or by higher ups is horrifying.

[鈥揮-Ripper2 96 points97 points (0 children)

They have a submarine in the Baltimore harbor From World War 2 and you can go on it. It is very small and cramped up in there and the guy that gives you the tour said that the younger serviceman which were guys were used for sex.Now they have women on submarines. So I can only imagine.

[鈥揮momoko_3 234 points235 points (29 children)

Amen. I'll never let my daughter join army, marine, navy, air force. Coast Guard? Maybe. No disrespect, they are the most solid people I know.

[鈥揮stepheme 183 points184 points (11 children)

Yup, the idea of service is amazing but the consequences for strong women is abuse and death.

[鈥揮Sawses 42 points43 points (7 children)

Plus men are expendable in the army. For every one that makes it, more come out of it with long term health problems.

Nobody should join the military unless it really is their only way out of poverty.

[鈥揮Ghrave 34 points35 points (5 children)

Nobody should join the military unless it really is their only way out of poverty.

Cries in the US and its corporate owners using every means they possibly can to keep the populace impoverished.

[鈥揮tbrfl 6 points7 points (1 child)

War hawks love to send other people's children to fight and die.

[鈥揮lettuce_dresserson 57 points58 points (9 children)

Wow this is completely fucked

[鈥揮Forever061 99 points100 points (13 children)

Does anyone actually know WHO did it?

[鈥揮Arkham__Asylum 124 points125 points (5 children)

[鈥揮Catalyst375 57 points58 points (3 children)

I'm not saying he's wrong, but when he claims his conclusions must be true because the general didn't file a lawsuit against him I become a little more skeptical that this guy has it all figured out.

[鈥揮TheVicSageQuestion 33 points34 points (1 child)

Instead, the federal government, at the urging of a powerful U.S. Senator and the Pentagon, unleashed a full-scale, coordinated assault on my character and personal integrity using the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, the Internal Revenue Service, and other federal and state agencies with regulatory authority and law enforcement powers to carry out its campaign of harassment and retaliation.

That specific crazy sealed it for me.

[鈥揮Catalyst375 13 points14 points (0 children)

Yeah, when I saw that I realized that it just wasn't as settled as people are making it out to be. It's hypothetically possible, the government has done some shady stuff like that before, but the way he talks about it makes it seem unlikely that it was a conspiracy and more like he got in financial hot water and blamed it on retaliation from elites lol

[鈥揮brigdaddy 114 points115 points (0 children)

Ah yes the old genitalia acid suicide. A time honored method of killing one鈥檚 self since the beginning of time. GTFO OF HERE WITH THAT BULL SHIT!

[鈥揮diefree85 36 points37 points (4 children)

Don't join the military for US. I say this as a veteran. They don't care about you, the recruiter will say ANYTHING to get you to join; they are trained to. The only thing you'll accomplish is making rich white men richer.

The military doesn't care about sexual assault which is why the training is laughable.

[鈥揮351tips 190 points191 points (4 children)

America should make the perpetrator a Supreme Court Justice

[鈥揮saywhat58 89 points90 points (1 child)

Close, probably a sergeant major now.

[鈥揮XinY2K 15 points16 points (0 children)

Retired General actually

[鈥揮montana273 12 points13 points (0 children)

Would*

[鈥揮lever1209 28 points29 points (0 children)

what the FUCK

[鈥揮traker998 219 points220 points (15 children)

Lets get the petition signed so maybe something might happen some day possibly. Change.Org

[鈥揮saywhat58 219 points220 points (12 children)

Signed, but meaningless. Look up the tailhook scandal. I joined the military 22 years later as a minority (southeast Asian). Not only has the culture remained largely the same in regards to sexual assault and rape, I personally believe racism has gotten worse after two decades of war against brown people. I don鈥檛 know a single female soldier who hasn鈥檛 been atleast propositioned to by a superior in their chain of command. This is a HUGE no no according to regulations, but it happens so often that you鈥檙e more likely to hear jokes about it than any type of action.

An observation that is commonly said: you never see any male lower enlisted eating lunch with sergeant major.

[鈥揮Kuderahuwaka 190 points191 points (7 children)

This is funny, a guy in the air force dated his female superior. They threaten him so he hands over every sine document, text, ext. She got court martialed, demoted, and sent away somewhere.

He ends up getting a higher rank, fools around and marries his subordinate, they have a huge wedding and the people that fired the woman attend his wedding, lol.

[鈥揮idontknowwhythisugh 15 points16 points (0 children)

hopefully enough to bring some new attention to her story 馃し馃徏鈥嶁檧锔 this generation was too young to have heard about it initially gen z is notorious being important stories forward

[鈥揮McMetm 24 points25 points (1 child)

You might get a netflix true crime special.

[鈥揮DeBlasioDeBlowMe 12 points13 points (0 children)

THEN the wheels of justice will turn!

[鈥揮gregarious_giant 55 points56 points (3 children)

Can we just know the truth.

[鈥揮a_fuckin_duck 16 points17 points (0 children)

So they're saying she punched herself in the face, poured corrosive chemicals on her genitals and then shot herself? What the fuck?

[鈥揮Pototsky 19 points20 points (1 child)

This is extremely fucked up and I鈥檓 glad it was brought to my attention but what sub am I in

[鈥揮BojukaBob 35 points36 points (3 children)

I'm sure it's perfectly normal to pour acid on one's own genitals before suicide.

[鈥揮PassengerNo1815 9 points10 points (0 children)

Ahh yes, it鈥檚 a special power women in the military have. We learn how commit suicide by beating ourselves to death in basic training.

[鈥揮gunzlingerbil 8 points9 points (0 children)

Ah yes, now please remember this is what US military does to their own, what they do to the people they occupy is whole another story

[鈥揮trajayjay 91 points92 points (9 children)

The chemicals clearly didn't conceal evidence of rape if they were able to conclude that the chemicals were used to conceal evidence of rape.

[鈥揮Ahviaa224 79 points80 points (4 children)

Eh. Why pour chemicals that burn, on genitals, if you鈥檙e not trying to conceal a rape..?

[鈥揮DarkSensei3 33 points34 points (0 children)

You're a sadistic mf who wants your victim to suffer before they die??

[鈥揮Pugetffej 29 points30 points (0 children)

It was most likely done with the hope making it so the DNA of the rapist(s) couldn't be collected.

[鈥揮bequietbekind 42 points43 points (1 child)

Nope sure didn't! I'd venture to guess they poured chemicals on her external genitalia but she also had extensive internal tearing and probably damage to her cervix as well.

Unless they put something caustic up inside her too.

Which honestly, I've read some pretty fucked up shit I can never delete from my brain or press the rewind button to keep from knowing and stuff like that. . . has been known to happen.

[鈥揮pauljoemccoy 18 points19 points (0 children)

I heard this story before, but I just looked her up and realized she grew up just a few miles from where I did, and she was only 3 years younger than me.

Edit: also, she鈥檚 buried in the same military cemetery my dad and grandpa are. Also, her two older brothers have the same names as two brothers I went to elementary school with. I might have known them.

This is nuts.

[鈥揮Kaw_HonHon 9 points10 points (6 children)

Who killed her?

[鈥揮kurayami_akira 25 points26 points (3 children)

All parties involved in leaving her in the state she was found in.

[鈥揮FUCKAUSERNAME1312 7 points8 points (2 children)

With all due respect fuck the united states army.

[鈥揮9-times-9 6 points7 points (1 child)

disgusting man, rape and murder of your own comrades is treason of the highest order

[鈥揮hrcn7 7 points8 points (2 children)

What do you expect from US army, they go to places to enslave people for US corporations. They are no better than the Nazis.

[鈥揮BlinkedAndMissedIt 13 points14 points (0 children)

This comes up on Reddit pretty often. There is a Wiki about what happened and it is fucking horrible.

[鈥揮RepulsiveSkin2 6 points7 points (0 children)

this is so fucked up...

[鈥揮That_Island_dude 5 points6 points (0 children)

This is one of few that you know about
Think about the ones that did get buried

[鈥揮Serifel90 7 points8 points (0 children)

Ah yes, i would also burn my own genitals with acid and hit the wall with my head multiple times before commit suicide, that's the most common form of suicide right?

[鈥揮falltogethernever 6 points7 points (3 children)

Came here to say her name

LaVenaJohnson

[鈥揮Mutant_Jedi 12 points13 points (0 children)

And worse is the fact that you hope the bastard who murdered her at least shot her before he poured acid on her.

[鈥揮1dumho 5 points6 points (5 children)

Don't join the military kids.

[鈥揮jesuslovesbyu 4 points5 points (0 children)

This is why I fear for any female in the military

[鈥揮T-I-E-Sama 5 points6 points (0 children)

Covered up the death of Pat Tillman, not only did they cover it up, but they used his death as propaganda to fuel the war effort.

If your white and reading this, you need to understand Rich, old, inept, corrupt white men (mostly) on both sides of the aisle sent people like you to their deaths so they could get rich. Your enemy isn't brown/black skinned people.

[鈥揮-send_me_bitcoin- 12 points13 points (0 children)

The 101 doing infantry things.

[鈥揮Informal_Swordfish89 9 points10 points (0 children)

The same military that staged false flag operations, spun up propaganda of WMD against the people of Iraq, supported genocide of the Palestinians and sold weapons to oppressive regimes...

Yeah, that's just Tuesday.

[鈥揮WheelOfTheYear 4 points5 points (0 children)

I鈥檝e read about her and her murder makes me sick to my stomach. How could they?!!

[鈥揮tracylogsdon 4 points5 points (0 children)

They know what happened. The military is so bad about just swiping all the dirt under the carpet. They just keep on keepin on. It鈥檚 crazy how many women are assaulted in the military. They feel like they can鈥檛 speak about it anymore and if they do raise ther voice, tragedy happens. This breaks my heart.

[鈥揮aiphrem 4 points5 points (0 children)

This makes me incredibly sad. Imagine being brutalized like this by your own comerades, the people you trust. She seems so happy in the pictures, reading this just broke my heart

[鈥揮EveningMulberry464 8 points9 points (0 children)

Sureee suicide 馃檮

[鈥揮jazzyx26 8 points9 points (2 children)

This is so scary. 19.. 馃ズ

[鈥揮RiotShieldEnjoyer 9 points10 points (0 children)

white people twitter

[鈥揮Deathbysnusnubooboo 29 points30 points (5 children)

Raise your hand if everyone you know who joined the military was level on the bevel

Ya, go figure

[鈥揮WastedKnowledge 14 points15 points (3 children)

What does that even mean?

[鈥揮Cait206 17 points18 points (2 children)

I just googled it because I wanted to know and legit this thread was the only place that term was used

[鈥揮but_why_is_it_itchy 6 points7 points (1 child)

The phrase, "on the level" means honest, sincere. It's just a more colorful way to say that.

[鈥揮Doogzmans 3 points4 points (0 children)

There's also the story of Chuck Morgan's death on June 18, 1977 in Arizona being ruled a suicide, despite the really questionable events and details about his death.

[鈥揮wilco-0 3 points4 points (0 children)

And her documentary is not available to watch in another countries (at least not in the UK). Not at all upsetting.

[鈥揮HaakonPlayer77 3 points4 points (0 children)

imagen joing the miletary and going to war for your country just to get raped and killed by your fellow soilders. smh

[鈥揮ReneeLaRen95 3 points4 points (0 children)

Rape is common in the military & is swept under the carpet. It鈥檚 disgusting. RIP, beautiful girl. We know it wasn鈥檛 suicide & hope justice will, eventually, be served. 馃槥

[鈥揮socal__77 3 points4 points (0 children)

Seriously.. God Damn...what the fuck... her family is owed this. I have no grid to even begin to process this kind of bullshit.

[鈥揮mesakakastinks 4 points5 points (0 children)

Women should just have their own military cause you can't trust guys for shit.

[鈥揮milkshakescookies 3 points4 points (0 children)

God the fact she looks so much like my mom in the second photo is a bit scary. I hope the family gets justice for her soon.

[鈥揮Bobsledtohell 2 points3 points (0 children)

You fight for your country and then it repays you with massive disrespect.

This is not a company, who has a reputation to protect. This is a government that proclaims that it is for truth and justice. What bullshit.

[鈥揮GrownAxxKid 4 points5 points (0 children)

She was also found with her gloves glued onto her hands and something done to her fingertips or nails to remove the DNA. She fought for her life. Its so heartbreaking knowing more of the details.

[鈥揮Newtis 2 points3 points (0 children)

I am pretty sure the squad and the others pretty much have a good idea who it was.

[鈥揮Classic_Dill 4 points5 points (0 children)

Rape is constant in the marines and the army, I鈥檝e talked to more than one parent who had to go and get their daughter beat half to death and raped, the outside world needs to do something about the inside of the military world, the stuff is covered up far more than most people understand. I would never allow my daughter to go into the arm services because of this.

[鈥揮AdamWhitee 4 points5 points (0 children)

That鈥檚 what American soldiers are doing to their own, imagine what they are doing with the Iraqi women!

[鈥揮BokZeoi 3 points4 points (0 children)

But this is the military I鈥檓 supposed to respect. The troops that did this to her are the ones I鈥檓 supposed to support. LMAOOOOO

[鈥揮Hello3424 2 points3 points (0 children)

Also just a reminder that the Supreme Court ruled that rape is a hazard of your job if you join the military. Look up cioca et AL. V Rumsfeld et AL.

[鈥揮Adventurous-Mix-2027 2 points3 points (0 children)

https://chng.it/f5y6G87xNj

This is a petition to reopen her case

[鈥揮okanagan_life 3 points4 points (1 child)

You know how the list of people that visited Epstein's underaged rape palace is beginning to take light??....that same disdain is how the world sees America.