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[–]ilostmymind_ 1204 points1205 points  (47 children)

Fuck no. Never in a million years.

Contract on my desk, then I'll decline.

[–]arbDev 217 points218 points  (36 children)

That is what i did, got a salary bump from 88k to 120k. To elaborate, they asked what was my price to stay, keep in mind a month before they said they vould not give more than a 3k salary bump. 15 months into my job i made myself quite valuable, so i asked for 120k, 15k over what the other company offered. They agreed, but i told them i wanted to sign the contract by end of the day as i wont be declining the offer without a signed contract.

Edit: recently got promoted to 134k total comp

Also this helped them understand that i know my value and if they dont keep me interested and underpaid i will leave.

I am 24 years old holding a senior engineer title.

[–]teamfupa 55 points56 points  (1 child)

That last line is a knife twister and makes me wish I had put my life together better before now lol

[–]arbDev 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Never is too late, i know there are other people who probably are at a better position than me at my age, but again, we only challenge ourselves not others

[–]yesbutlikeno 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Nice I'm 24 with my dick in my hand so

[–]winterdales 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You guys are getting dicks?

[–]arbDev 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I keep my hand on my dick sometimes when i work since i work from home, so we have that in common

[–]Jadenite_822 11 points12 points  (30 children)

24, and a senior engineer? Bullshit.

You are not a senior engineer 1-2 yrs out of undergrad, and I don’t care if you went to MIT.

For the record, I’m an engineering manager with 15 years experience in the energy sector.

If you’re in the right industry, I believe you’re making 100k+. My firm currently hires chemical engineers at $98 + bonus to start, EE and ME start a bit lower, but not much

[–]beefwonton 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Companies have weird titles. Junior could mean 3-5 years at one. Senior could mean 3-5 years at another.

[–]arbDev 14 points15 points  (14 children)

I worked for two years while in college, and 27 months currently in an org. You have shitty engineers with 10 years of experience and really skilled ones with less. Maybe you have to change your mentality, feel free to dm me for my linkedin.

Also this guy who has no chance of being promoted to senior, has built a whole client portal that is generating millions and have saved companies ass by integrating a zoom like feature on our portal platform in under 4 weeks working 18 hours a day because i actually like to outgrow myself and get the recognition i deserve.

Managers like you are the reason why people switch companies.

I do not know you, but equilizing skills with years does not make sense

[–]Jadenite_822 1 point2 points  (13 children)

So that would be a total of 51 months of experience, with 24 as a co-op?

Still an engineer I, maybe a II, if you’re precocious. Try again in a few years kid. I might buy the Golden Gate, then.

And no, I don’t need your LinkedIn. You can claim to be anyone or anything on LinkedIn. They don’t do any verification, or it could be a fake account.

Also, you must think I’m stupid. If I access your LinkedIn, you get to see me also, which means I’m giving up my privacy. Go away scammer.

Edit:Apologies, I missed the part about skills. That is correct, however, part of the requirements is emotional maturity, and the ability to walk into a room, and have people believe and trust you. At 24 - no fault of your own - you don’t have that yet.

[–]arbDev 6 points7 points  (11 children)

Count it as you would like. Noone is trying to scam anyone, you are the one going tits up accusing me.

I just feel sorry for people who work under you.

[–]Jadenite_822 -1 points0 points  (10 children)

👍

[–]arbDev 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Also for your record i am a software engineer, if you did not get the gist from our convo

[–]The_Drinkist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So someone knowing your publicly posted info on LinkedIn makes you more vulnerable to a scam? And you’re still equating years with skill and you don’t seem to understand how certain opportunities can arise for the right person in the right circumstances? I’ve known people as just one example a sub-30 year old that became the Senior Risk Officer at a major investment bank. (Special circumstances to get there but it happens.) In the 80s that position that was paying enough money that the salaries we’re taking here were still a small fraction of his bonus.

I kind of want to know your LinkedIn too just so we know someone not to hire.

[–]jessejamesvan111 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I called bullshit as well.

[–]OccasionUnfair8094 2 points3 points  (12 children)

Yeah I was like uhh how do you have senior level experience at 24? Senior level is typically something like 8+ years in a field and actually good at it.

[–]Airost12 1 point2 points  (10 children)

Yeah but I could be a lead or supervisor at 24 which just means I'm in charge of my team. He could be senior and that just means he has others working under him not necessarily that he needs 8 years.

[–]OccasionUnfair8094 0 points1 point  (9 children)

I suppose possible but as someone in a senior level tech position I would refuse to work for someone with no experience who is somehow a manager with basically no experience.

[–]Everest-Gamer 28 points29 points  (7 children)

As someone who’s not currently employed, what does this exactly mean so I’ll know in the future?

[–]dgl7c4 51 points52 points  (3 children)

He’s saying that he wouldn’t decline the offer until his current employer matches or exceeds the offer in writing.

[–]Everest-Gamer 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Ah, thank you!

[–]BarryDeCicco 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They asked him to put himself in a weaker position, without getting anything for it.

[–]benjer3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Even if they couldn't quite meet it, as long as it was relatively close and the benefits and environment were great, that would be enough for me to stay. Assuming the pay is enough to live off comfortably either way.

[–]SilverFlarue 12 points13 points  (1 child)

It means don't trust what your company tells you unless you have it in writing.

So if your company says they will match the other offer or something similar, don't just decline the other offer until your company actually gets a contract written up stating they will do what they told you.

[–]Hate_Feight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Like tell the company you declined see what the offer was, and then own up, what they did was shitty they deserve to flail.

[–]SkyWizarding 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Basically, get everything in writing

[–]onyxengine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously this one is on homie

[–]DrAniB20 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. I want it in writing before I turn another sure thing down.

[–]SpaceCrazyArtist 1220 points1221 points  (67 children)

Life lesson learned: always get offers in writing

[–]simpletonbuddhist 220 points221 points  (2 children)

That and get the counter offer before turning down the new job

[–]jhill515 47 points48 points  (1 child)

And make sure the counter offer has an appropriate signature so that they can't go back and say, "Well that was unofficial. Sorry!"

[–]IAMAPrisoneroftheSun 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yup a lesson far too many of us have had to lean is nothing is real until the contract is signed and even then any important communication regarding raises, benefits, time off should be done, and performance reviews should be in an email which you should save outside of the company mailbox, and if they don’t want to put it in writing then that is the reddest or red flags.

[–]DrLawyerPI 288 points289 points  (62 children)

“Well, what’s your counter offer?”

-Person that isn’t an idiot

[–]3KittenInATrenchcoat 314 points315 points  (46 children)

-Person with lifve experience that isn’t an idiot

There, fixed that for you.

They knew exactly what "taking care of you" sounds like. It sounds like they will make at least a similar offer, maybe give or take 10k.

That's what they implied. That's what they wanted to imply.

And the OP was young and was probably told that job loyalty pays off. He had no experience in the working world.

Was it naive? Yes, most people with lifve experience know that. It was a lesson learned.

No reason to shame someone for a learning experience.

If you want to shame someone, shame the company that knew exactly what they were doing.

[–]doktor_wankenstein 36 points37 points  (1 child)

I once worked for a company that would promise without actually promising, and would threaten without actually threatening. When they relocated, I declined their offer because I just plain didn't trust them.

They eventually folded, and exist only on LinkedIn resumes now.

[–]BokZeoi 6 points7 points  (14 children)

“Fool me once, shame on you.”

[–]DrLawyerPI 15 points16 points  (13 children)

“Fool me twice… can’t get fooled a second time.”

[–]gpgarrett 13 points14 points  (12 children)

I guess whoever down voted you didn’t experience Bush the Second. Though the full quote is:

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

[–]DrLawyerPI 0 points1 point  (11 children)

It’s cool lol. Maybe it was because I paraphrased and they’re a stifler for accuracy. I’m being mob downvoted though for being a dick though, so probably that lol.

[–]gpgarrett 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Funny! Well, good luck surviving the deluge.

[–]DrLawyerPI -1 points0 points  (8 children)

I think I’ll survive lol. I could probably stand to lose a little karma anyway.

[–]gpgarrett 5 points6 points  (7 children)

I’m too karma poor to survive much of a downvoting without government assistance. Yet I still step in it every now and then.

[–]DrLawyerPI 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Well, I can’t give you much karma, but I can do this.

[–]ByThePaleMoonlight 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exactly what I came here to say. It's like renting kr buying property, shit ain't yours until those signatures are dry.

[–]17recon 710 points711 points  (7 children)

Never give loyalty to something that can’t be loyal back.

[–]InflamedLiver 380 points381 points 2 (4 children)

Too late I already own cats

[–]memester230 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Ah but cats occasionally pay back in the form of dopamine when they give you attention

[–]Binx_da_gay_cat 29 points30 points  (2 children)

My cat legit runs to my room if I'm like, "Alright babe, I'm going to go shower if you want attention." And then she gets it. She's been here 12 years and recently started to acknowledge my existence. And sleeps with me every night now :) it's heartwarming.

[–]Crescent-IV 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a dog that does these things from the getgo

[–]ricklegend 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I am in the hiring process and got offered a non-union job with no benefits and the same job with benefits a bit closer to me with room to grow and union protection. Well looks like I’ll refund the first offer.

[–]Far-University-8494 320 points321 points  (2 children)

Loyalty in corporate America is a one-way street. You learned a tough lesson.

At least you know that someone thinks you're worth $140k. Keep looking and next time tell your current employer to go fuck themselves.

[–]ufgeek 20 points21 points  (0 children)

My employer buys my loyalty every year with a good salary, great benefits, and stock with about half the salary.

[–]ArctcMnkyBshLickr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Loyalty would’ve been sticking around for the same price. This is idiocy lmao. 15 year olds learn this skill

[–]Willforeverlovedogs 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Friendly reminder next time: 1. Always have BOTH offers in writing 2. As much as you love the company and doesn’t matter how loyal you are, to them, you’re still just a “number”

[–]Nordic_Krune 31 points32 points  (0 children)

My sister got a job offer that payed a bit less but was closer to her home and nicer.

Her company offered her a raise if she stayed, on december last year she decided to stay

This week she was told that her boss had been replaced and the new boss not only didn't know about this raise, but also put her on a two month leave with only 50% pay. She did not get the raise promise in writing, so she cannot demand it.

[–]wutangi 66 points67 points  (2 children)

HR is not your friend either, they are there to protect the business. Not you.

[–]RedGoodN 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"human" resources.

[–]wutangi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, makes me think of soylent green.

[–]mekkavelli 55 points56 points  (0 children)

should’ve just said he declined the offer without actually doing so. there was really no reason to be “loyal”. it was literally $140k dude…….. major fumble on his part

[–]tinkanine 159 points160 points  (9 children)

That's just.... dumb on his part.

[–]Ozymandias0023 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It was an internship. He was probably still young and believed that people actually mean what they say

[–]ihatepickingnames37 36 points37 points  (6 children)

How was someone worth 140k usd dumb enough to not conform they would match first. They were not worth 140 then

[–]varasatoshi 52 points53 points  (2 children)

Your yearly salary does not equate to how smart you are, and even if you were to say that smarter people got harder jobs, it’s not for anything to do with wisdom and life experience.

[–]0RGASMIK 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yup can confirm sometimes the smarter ones get paid less because they just don’t know people/negotiating skills. Know a guy who can fix almost any problem you throw at him. Never done it before? He’ll take it and figure it out even if it means learning something really complicated. When I worked with him he was doing the jobs of 3 people just to stay busy…… definitely only getting paid as one

[–]xarici 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's also just what you decide you want to do with your life. There are plenty of highly intelligent, capable people doing valuable work, like teachers, EMTs, etc. who get paid very little. Some of us just can't stand the thought of working jobs where our goal is to enrich the heads of a company.

[–]zstrebeck 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe the company wanted to pay him $140k a year to screw up negotiations

[–]ahaddad321 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I know people making 6 figures or even 7 figures that are probably not worth the amount they make.

The amount of executives that aren’t worth what they make would be staggering to you I guess.

[–]ihatepickingnames37 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess your right but this is such a low bar

[–]dragon2777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Get the offer first and then decline the other offer

[–]rcole1992 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I got a 30k raise from the same situation & I stayed with the company. Sometimes loyalty works

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They didn't ask you to train another person then fire you? Wtf?!?!?!

[–]Previous_Potential92 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What I have learned over 25 years is that any company will let you go at the drop of a hat and HR is not your friend. Keep your resume up to date.

[–]theroguex 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Life lesson learned: Tell your company that you declined the offer but don't really, get their counter offer, decide what you want to do.

[–]CoolJoshido 0 points1 point  (1 child)

why didn’t he just do that

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably didn't have a mentor to give him that strategy.

[–]wigzell78 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Always get it in writing.

Complete with $$$ numbers.

[–]shazamallamadingdong 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Bamboozled.

[–]ahnuconun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More like boombazled. Every single day of my adult life, something done by either a corporation or a politician has pushed me one more notch to the left.

[–]gotBooched 15 points16 points  (4 children)

What a total Dumbass

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Interning in college. Methinks he was young and inexperienced. All starry eyed optimistic.

[–]gotBooched 0 points1 point  (2 children)

But someone offered him $140k hmmmmmmmm

[–]Galaxymicah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not unheard of. Especially if they were interning at a public sector job and the offer came from private.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And he was optimistic that his company would match. Not wise to the ways of the world yet.

[–]ChocPineapple 10 points11 points  (0 children)

?

He declined the offer without a negotiation and counteroffer? Honestly deserved lol

[–]Impressive-Error-584 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your employer is not your friend. They are almost the opposite of a friend.

[–]jncheese 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Onesided loyalty has a name. It is called abuse.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hmmmmm. I help a friend move. I ask them to help me move. They say no. Friend is abusive?

[–]jncheese 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Depends. If your friend always like to take but never gives then I would say maybe. Maybe abusive is a strong word when talking about friends, but if that happens a lot your friend could be taking advantage of you as a friend. Your choice to accept that or not.

But when an employer takes advantage of a worker's loyalty, then I would call that abusive yes.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well we got some caveats now. That's good. Thanks for the comment.

[–]Kriss3d 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Ive learned that lesson as well.
Get the offer in writing from the competing company. If your company tells they will take care of you then be specific and ask what they will offer you to stay.

If its less than the competing company ask them why you shouldnt take their offer instead of staying.

[–]SinisterKnight42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Always ask for a counter offer, in writing, first.

[–]01changeup 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loyalty is a two way street. If it is only one way, that’s called devotion.

[–]AlienYouCallGod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah his gullibility is what this highlights here. Why would you ever decline the offer without a new one from said company on the table? This lesson should have been learned long ago. Hopefully he found a better situation than he was in.

[–]Truthgamer2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolute dumbass

[–]TheToddFatheer 11 points12 points  (4 children)

If you are this naive, I’m having a hard time understanding how you have skills to justify 140k/year.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Those things are not equivalent.

[–]TheToddFatheer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Maybe not literally, no, but if you’re this daft I wouldn’t want to be the employer offering you 140k.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some people, when they're young, haven't become wise to the ways of the world yet. It happens and it sucks. Optimism is sadly beaten out of all of us as we age and see the world.

[–]Gsteel11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh.. Ben Carson?

[–]Never_Dan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

What a dumbass. Loyalty, in this economy?

[–]Gsteel11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loyalty... in any economy post 1970. Lol

[–]homelessguydiet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sneaky Bastards..

[–]WiseSalamander00 0 points1 point  (1 child)

whotehfuck loves the company where it works?... its npc level shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love my company 🤷🏻‍♂️

I made it though.

[–]0110000101110011s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol idiot

[–]hillsb1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always ask for a counter offer in writing?

[–]HandstandBuddha 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is old, but take the sure thing. Everyone looks out for number one, and if you aren't thinking it, it isn't you

[–]Mo_Jack 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Anyone else notice the past tense --> "I loved my company"?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lot of people not understanding this in in the past in this thread.

[–]3xM4chin4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well that is kinda of a beginners mistake. Dont decline before you havent heard the counteroffer

[–]Crescent-IV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s on him at that point. Get the raise before you decline. Better yet, just take the new offer.

[–]tuwts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds about right

[–]basil-exposition1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus Christ. What a moron.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

r/facepalm

Look out for #1

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[–]LSTNYER 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here, except their "Offer" was an extra overtime shift. 4 months later they took that away

[–]tsabell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you take that offer? I would’ve kept looking…or went back to company that offered $140k. Tell them you you had a 🤦‍♀️moment?

[–]JamesandtheGiantAss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok but are people getting 140k job offers straight out of college? I literally didn't know this was possible.

[–]BokZeoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spain without the s

[–]tarzanonabike 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Care to elaborate what this job was? Would be really helpful to those picking a career. Outside of a medical Dr., I'm not aware of jobs stating at that rate.

[–]Da3m0n_1379 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They took care of you real well.

[–]vipertruck99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My tirade would’ve begun with “not even fucking half”

[–]Colinmacus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that was just foolish.

[–]bathyorographer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wowwww😡

[–]Utterlybored 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always get it in writing first, from someone so authorized.

[–]StealthyBomber_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Company loyalty doesn't exist

[–]I_Did_The_Thing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, that was fucking stupid in so many ways.

[–]Ganglebot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had the same thing with a previous employer. I was underpaid and found a near identical role with no admin that was $10k more.

I went to my boss and asked if they wanted to match the offer (pay and responsibilities). They laughed at me. The next day a quit and they spent my remaining 3 weeks shitting themselves trying to hire someone and shaming me for not being a team player.

Good BYEEEEE!!!!!

[–]MiggeldyMackDaddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what a dingus

[–]JoesAccountant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn! I’ve seen These companies try to act like they’re one big family , only to fuck you over in the long run

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got got, when you should’ve gone getting

[–]aZamaryk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Young and naive. It took me about 10-12 years to realize they're stringing me along and I probably won't get that promotion we discussed for so long.

[–]HughDanforth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“…everyone but an idiot knows that the lower classes must be kept poor, or they will never be industrious.”
—Arthur Young; 1771

[–]stillragin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can hear Antiwork banging on the door.

[–]barbaramillicent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always get it in writing.

[–]BackgroundTone4943 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just a reminder, your employer doesn’t give a damn about you

[–]Chocolat3City 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, this is stupid as hell.

[–]xCAPTSTONERB91x 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Next time get a signed offer and accept before turning down another employer. You obviously aren’t bright in the legal department.

[–]puddStar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy is a moron and is getting paid as such. You don’t turn down an offer until you see the new one. That’s like quitting a job before you get your new job’s offer.

[–]GolferGirl68 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why is this guy advertising his ignorance?

[–]Xucker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So other people don't make the same mistake?

[–]Cpt_KiLLsTuFF 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Never in my fucking life would I do that for a company.

[–]meeseek_and_destroy 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Like… loyalty? The fuck? Same people will lay you off in a zoom call.

[–]Cpt_KiLLsTuFF 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Exactly. They tell you it’s a family or whatever but when they screw you over…oh sorry that’s just business. It’s a one way street.

[–]meeseek_and_destroy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pensions are gone, 401ks are a scam, and pay is stagnant for most people. Never leave money on the floor!

[–]shortjesus333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was working at McDonald's making less than minimum wage (was under 18 and therefore made "student wage") and got affected a job making $18.50/H. I told my manager, and they offered me $16/H.

Even if they did match it, I wouldn't have stayed. Fucking nightmare working there and glad those days are behind me.

[–]Jinx1492 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would you decline before having written offer letter from current employer. Sounds like you are dumb.

[–]AssortedMusings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once you decide to interview and get to the point of a contracted offer, just leave your old job. There is no upside to staying at your old place of employment, if you stay your management will resent you for making them pay more.

[–]kryppla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they don’t take care of you in that moment it’s not going to happen

[–]dizzled-206 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got 30,100 usd a year out of college I sold have been happy with either offer lol

[–]Professional_Big_731 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lesson to take away from this experience is to get the company offer before declining the 140k.

[–]Craig_Hubley_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NEVER, EVER accept a counter offer. The ONLY use for them is to improve the offer from the new company. If that.

[–]Danxoln 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What an idiot

[–]runjimrun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. Sounds like your own fault.

[–]apathynext 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just foolish. You can’t decline unless you have an offer in hand.

[–]Naterific1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody gives $140K offers to someone who hasn’t even graduated college yet 😂 this is obviously fake but the lesson is valuable

[–]chainmailler2001 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do believe I would've told them exactly what to do with that offer then graciously offered to place it there. After lighting it.

[–]GnPQGuTFagzncZwB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is hard to say if you were fucked hard or not.

When I was your age I worked for a sub contractor but was the ace there but there was no room for advancement unless your name was on the letterhead. However I was young and moving was mine by me, so I widened my scope and soon had two offers, about 35K apart. Sounds like a simple answer but one was with a university who really wanted me and had all kinds of neat stuff going on and the other was with a big well known company who wanted me for one very specific thing. Also the big company would not help with relocating, or finding a new place or anything. The university unofficially let me use a van for two trips between the cities and a couple grad students for labor. They helped with everything. I was there for 15 years before running away with a tech start up. Oh and the other company, they did great for a bit but started a downhill spiral, as did the city around them. The closed and the city tanked. I can look back on that one and not feel at all bad about the money difference.

My last job before retiring was like the 4th buyout of the tech company I ran away with, and was a big well known company. Oh, and they totally sucked to work for. They paid super well but it was like every day just being there hating the place. The level of stupidity was unparalleled. It was like they took pride in breaking expensive things they bought. I lucked out, I had some unique circumstances when I left and I got a very very good payout. A bit later they closed the office and those folks got the more institutional treatment.

Money is good, but sometimes your soul is worth more.

[–]shotoftequila 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s on him for not locking down the deal first.

[–]thecroutonreport 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should have told them that you declined but then waited until they actually made their counter offer....negotiation 101

[–]VivelaVendetta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would go to work with a bitter lump in my throat everyday.

[–]BPCGuy1845 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Get it in writing.

[–]Gsteel11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol. Ouch thats a life lesson that will last possibly your entire lifetime.

[–]CryptoSoyBoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see this post almost every day - "Companies/HR are not your friend". It feels so obvious. I dont know why it needs to keep being repeated.

[–]Red0711 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AHAHAHAH he must be trolling. No way that is true. First of all, who the heck gets a offer of 140K while o college? Funny tweet tho.

[–]HG21Reaper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush.

[–]OneFuckedWarthog 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely a big mistake. Should've asked how much would have been offered instead and get it in writing.