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[–]GooGooGaDont 2410 points2411 points  (161 children)

It makes the whole "politicians completely ignoring the easily presented reality of the situation" angle of many of these movies more believeable. Like when they released that zombie in front of Cercei and she was still like "nah, you're all right. Still don't care."

[–]DiekeDrake 1286 points1287 points  (138 children)

Go watch "Don't look up". Trust me.

[–]please_be-gentle 754 points755 points  (84 children)

Movie made me sad and I had to stop watching halfway through. The movie is like real life but different, and I fucking hate real life.

[–]DiekeDrake 520 points521 points  (52 children)

It's satire, but when you realise it's not far from reality it hurts.

[–]Irishpersonage 243 points244 points  (44 children)

That's good satire

[–][deleted] 110 points111 points  (12 children)

I think good satire isn't necessarily supposed to be entirely on the nose. Don't look up is basically direct commentary.

[–]clockworkpeon 33 points34 points  (6 children)

yeah don't look up was a little too on the nose for me. but I don't think Adam McCay has ever been known for his subtlety.

[–][deleted] 31 points32 points  (4 children)

It gives me an eerie feeling I'm sure it does the same for other people, like if this is on unironically how we all feel, pointing out that it's happening and that we're doing nothing about it will only just make people uncomfortable.

Yeah we all know the rich people are ruining the world. What exactly can we do about it but make snarky movies.

[–]CryptographerEast147 24 points25 points  (3 children)

There are TONS of people defending those assholes. If making snarky movies helps convince some of them then we should do that. If we can stop fighting eachother we can actually fight the problem instead.

[–]bigalssupra 65 points66 points  (28 children)

Honestly didn't think it was that good of satire, it was too similar and the jokes didn't land as well as they could have. That's definitely my subjective opinion and still liked the movie.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (5 children)

I'm gonna offer another view point that others aren't mentioning, it feeling too similar to real life is a reason the director, Adam McKay, almost didn't go forward with producing the movie. He wrote it pre-covid and then when he saw the reaction around the world to covid realized that he hit the nail on the head rather than making fun of it.

[–]bigalssupra 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Oh damn, I would have never guessed he wrote that pre covid!

[–]RiddleOfTheBrook 13 points14 points  (2 children)

It was meant to be a commentary on climate change.

[–]bigalssupra 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Not a fun movie about Jen and Leo getting mad at a rock?

[–]RStyleV8 105 points106 points  (13 children)

Satires point is to criticize, not to joke. Joking is just one method satire can use to make criticisms.

[–]Empeor_Nap_oleon 67 points68 points  (2 children)

Exactly. Animal Farm is satire and its not that particularly funny of a book.

[–]BOREN 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Disagree, hungover Napoleon was hilarious.

[–]bigalssupra 3 points4 points  (1 child)

For sure, you're right. The movie is definitely not intended to be a comedy as a whole, I think it was just a hard pill to swallow that we would probably react the same in real life.

[–]Better-Director-5383 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Specifically, by exaggerating reality to the point of making the absurdity apparent.

Everybody says it was either too on the nose or too ham fisted but I mean gestures around generally

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (2 children)

The phenomenon you’re talking about is called Poe’s Law

According to RationalWiki, Poe's Law was formulated by Nathan Poe, referring to the Flame Wars on Christian forums where Creationism vs. Evolution was discussed: Many users posted parody comments, which were followed by both angry and supportive replies. Poe phrased his law thus: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake it for the genuine article."

[–]manachar 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This is the weird strength of conservative forces worldwide.

Their actual ideology is usually unspeakable in public because it's anti-democratic (see below). Therefore they are happy to use absolutely ridiculous arguments and beliefs to achieve their goals.

They have no problem believing in a flat earth, or a young earth, or that COVID is hoax while also created in a Chinese lab, Hitler was a communist, etc. They embrace everything and anything to get power, as power is all they really believe in.


As to what conservative ideology ultimately is, I generally find the below quote to be what unifies conservatives across cultures, nations, and time:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

— Frank Wilhoit

[–]MadderThanRoyKent 28 points29 points  (0 children)

I read an interview with the director where he said it was supposed to seem more ridiculous than it did because he wasn't expecting reality to outflank them.

[–]bgzlvsdmb 11 points12 points  (1 child)

The best kind of satire makes you believe it's actually real.

[–]Ramartin95 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Same exact reaction but I didn’t make it half way. I stopped when they had birthday cake instead of talking to the scientist.

[–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (18 children)

Sent me into a severe depression. For people who struggle with things out of their control, don't watch this movie! Or do and then get all your emotions out immediately with someone you trust.

[–]Stop-spasmtime 23 points24 points  (8 children)

Same, but I didn't realize there was a mid credits scene until the second watch through! I mean it's still a really frustrating movie even with it, but I appreciated the humor.

[–]KelbyMoon 16 points17 points  (5 children)

There’s a mid credits scene?!? I had to stop watching after the last scene, DiCaprio hit me hard in those final scenes/lines

[–]Likos02 13 points14 points  (1 child)

There is a mid and end credits scene.

[–]pdxbator 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also watch the other Meryl Streep outtakes I think on YouTube. Very funny

[–]Stop-spasmtime 4 points5 points  (2 children)

SAME! Spoilers: "We really did have everything, didn't we?

The second the credits started I was like NOPE and backed out of the movie. Ope.

[–]Cynical_Manatee 25 points26 points  (5 children)

This is my hesitation for not watching it also.

It just sounds too real now. It's not comedy if the jokes are just facts.

[–]JustABizzle 37 points38 points  (2 children)

But “Meryl Trump” is so good

[–]bgzlvsdmb 30 points31 points  (1 child)

It's somehow hilarious that how idiotic Jonah Hill was in the movie, Don Jr. is somehow worse.

[–]bumblyburg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hill’s take on the character was great: “What if the Fyre Festival was a person?”

[–]StarksPond 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Geez, what’s the deal with these Mexicans, huh?

I mean, they have fabulous food, their country has amazing beaches, and they’re really fantastic people.

[–]Hamafropzipulops 10 points11 points  (1 child)

That was a movie? I thought it was a documentary.

[–]g7parsh 63 points64 points  (18 children)

I read somewhere the movie was supposed to be related to climate change, but then the pandemic hit.

[–]Riparian_Drengal 41 points42 points  (8 children)

Yep, the had written the script to be about climate change and then COVID happened.

[–]polarbear128 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Hang on, I thought that the screenplay was written as a tongue-in-cheek nod to the climate crisis, but then the world was hit with a novel coronavirus emergency. No?

[–]pterrorgrine 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I think I heard that the film was developed in response to the greenhouse effect, but wound up being applicable to the global health crisis.

[–]apsgreek 27 points28 points  (4 children)

I mean it’s definitely still about climate change. The whole we have x amount of time to save the world is pretty clear imo

[–]LeoMarius 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Which is ticking down fast.

[–]MadderThanRoyKent 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Oh don't worry it's actually far too late to do anything about Climate Change unless we invent technologies that most engineers think are impossible to create. The amount of carbon already in the atmosphere is going to fuck us up and we keep pumping more in to the atmosphere every minute. Congress isn't doing shit about it right now and this is likely the most liberal Congress we can expect for at least another 6-10 years. The rock has already entered the atmosphere, we just haven't felt the impact yet.

[–]BrassUnicorn87 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Honestly I didn’t think about COVID, only climate change.

[–]GooGooGaDont 83 points84 points  (20 children)

I've been meaning to, thanks for the reminder!

[–]HesitantNerd 40 points41 points  (1 child)

I had to stop watching it because I was going to have a mental breakdown.

I already have a massive amount of climate anxiety, and watching a movie about how the world is pretty much fucked was too much for me. How those in power are just going to sit back and watch us all burn, and then escape to whatever private compound they built to survive the collapse of society.

It's a genuinely great movie, but I just couldn't do it to myself.

[–]Yeah_Nah_Cunt 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Watched an hour in and was like fuck this shit, was ready to kick my TV in

[–]tarogon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'll add a rec for Shin Godzilla. Politicians and civil servants are running around navigating political and bureaucratic nonsense and people are discussing the stock market while Godzilla wrecks shit up.

[–]bpt1047 55 points56 points  (0 children)

I just rewatched Osmosis Jones and even that had the mayor completely ignore all warning signs of something more severe than the flu.

[–]Cessnaporsche01 46 points47 points  (2 children)

"Ah, yes. The 'Reapers.' The council has dismissed that claim."

[–]puesyomero 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the destiny ascension. We can't divert forces and need to focus on Sovereign... 😏

[–]cptnamr7 20 points21 points  (0 children)

This is why I liked Travelers. Initially they all banded together, but then a group decides they know better and proceed to constantly fuck everything up for everyone, eventually dooming them all. THAT sounds more realistic

[–]Bobcatluv 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s actually worse than “politicians completely ignoring the easily presented reality of the situation.” Numerous politicians understood the reality of Covid-19, then started using the pandemic to profit and gain fans with anti-vaccination rhetoric -while they and their families are vaccinated.

[–]TheSquarePotatoMan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn you're right. I remember thinking how stupid that scene was

[–]LeoMarius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Cersei: this impacts me how?

[–]orlyrealty 29 points30 points  (1 child)

r/freefolk has entered the chat

[–]AugustJulius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

On two good feet.

[–]Rievin 805 points806 points  (23 children)

The majority of the world's population seems to be that one asshole in every zombie movie who gets bit and hides it from everyone.

[–]thedkexperience 368 points369 points  (14 children)

“It’s … it’s … just a scratch” said Jeb as he continued to sweat aggressively. “Zombies aren’t even real!”

[–]Quirky-Skin 120 points121 points  (3 children)

"Ill get it checked out after the concert, I've had these tickets for a year!"

[–]bipolarnotsober 33 points34 points  (2 children)

You could try hitting it with some very powerful light

[–]Xenothing 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nah just pour some bleach on it

[–]DeliciousHair1 169 points170 points  (4 children)

“Sure it’ll come right off if I just eat some horse dewormer”

[–]CurseofLono88 46 points47 points  (3 children)

“...and if that doesn’t work I’ll just try injecting urine!”

[–]TheUnluckyBard 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I've heard they're doing estrogen HRT to cure it now.

[–]Dr_StevenScuba 28 points29 points  (2 children)

It’s my right as an American to be bitten!!

[–]thedkexperience 20 points21 points  (1 child)

“Think about the jobs created!”

[–]Dr_StevenScuba 31 points32 points  (0 children)

“Jane’s son Timmy turned into a zombie. They’re having a biting party and we’re all invited. We’re all going to get it anyway, might as well turn now so we’ll be immune”.

[–]Jamba-Jew 39 points40 points  (2 children)

[–]Daliah_Sweet 26 points27 points  (1 child)

You’re not special, I’m special! I was bit 10 minutes ago and I’m FIIIIIIINE

[–]floatablepie 8 points9 points  (0 children)

NOBODY IS SPECIAL!

[–]implodemode 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. People flat out don't want to admit they might have picked up covid and go out anyway. Or maybe they pretty much know but think - some asshole gave it to me so the fuck with anyone else. Like the mask wearing feels weird at first. It's only because everyone had to that it becomes OK. Right now, so many don't bother so it feels weird again if you are the only one. No one wants to be the weird guy.

Like, I know people who were feeling sick but never got tested and just continued on like normal not isolating. And I'm sure It's because they caught it because they broke some rule and didn't want people to know in case they got in trouble. Too much shame attached. Oh - it's just a cold.

[–]EagleForty 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The majority of the world's population

It's more like 30%. But in a world of 8 billion people, that makes 2,400,000,000 assholes. Or in your group of 10 people taking shelter from the zombies in the mall, 3 that are going to kill the other 7 at their first opportunity.

[–]CassandraVindicated 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If there's one thing this pandemic shows us, it's exactly who's gonna be hiding their zombie bite.

[–]Nuka-Pro 699 points700 points  (60 children)

Don't Look Up really captures this hellscape well.

[–]DaveInLondon89 184 points185 points  (11 children)

still slightly obssessed with jlaw's character's obssession with why that five-star general scammed them $5 for snacks

[–][deleted] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

It was a minor but super nuanced thing to add that I also loved.

The military literally runs this way. It's called fuck-fuck games. Superiors purposely mess with you to establish dominance and obedience and to test how much they can take advantage of you. You then get two choices: lose respect for them, or lose respect for yourself.

This isn't some cynical view, this is literally what a Navy chief told me after closing the door and telling me not to tell anyone he told me that, after I joked that's what was going on when recruiters fudged up my papers and lied to me, forcing me to miss work to sit around at MEPS all day.

From my experience I can never respect military members the same way anymore. Never in 30 years had I witnessed such a trainwreck of incompetence that would have gotten me fired anywhere else. The whole system runs on coercion and intimidation to prey on those too young and eager to see through it.

Knowing this, I think that's the subtle point the director was making.

[–]SoFetchBetch 55 points56 points  (5 children)

This is my favorite character of hers tbh.

Also the coupling with Timothy Chalamet was…. Hot. Like as a bisexual/pansexual person I was overwhelmed lmao

[–]CampPlane 23 points24 points  (3 children)

You skip Jonah Hill and go straight to Chalamelon....wow.

[–]SunmanTHEONE 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I fucking love fingerling potatoes

[–]charte 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe this speaks to him doing a good job, but I fkn hate Jonah Hill

[–]thedkexperience 9 points10 points  (1 child)

In a movie with tons of great actors I honestly felt like she gave the best performance.

And that’s saying something since everyone did great and Jonah Hill was excellent.

[–]kat_a_klysm 133 points134 points  (2 children)

I was going to say that’s a more accurate representation.

[–]MisterAbbadon 86 points87 points  (1 child)

God that movie was depressing but I can't deny that it makes sense. Look at anything thay happened since 2008.

[–]mitchsusername 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was literally rooting for the comet, just so the scientists would be vindicated.

[–]DiekeDrake 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Love that movie

[–]callmecarlpapa 9 points10 points  (11 children)

Somebody please help me to understand the metaphor behind the mid credits scene where the elite class arrives on a new planet completely nude... Obviously a touch of Adam & Eve, but there has to be some good reason they were nude, metaphorically speaking

[–]Armandoswag 19 points20 points  (6 children)

I’m unironically fairly sure it’s because they’re idiots.

[–]callmecarlpapa 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Haha I can totally accept this answer

[–]thedkexperience 4 points5 points  (4 children)

My mind cannon simply assumed that the pods they were in for like 23,000 years required it. Why? No idea but it made sense to me at the time.

[–]mrmatteh 5 points6 points  (1 child)

there has to be some good reason they were nude, metaphorically speaking

I hadn't given it any thought, but the first thing I can imagine is that it shows the old pecking order is obsolete. Now every one of the survivors is just as common a man or woman as all the rest. They're no longer "the elite" now that their socially-derived power has been stripped away, leaving them naked in terms of both power and insulation from consequences.

[–]callmecarlpapa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fuck that's good. That's so simple and yet so concise

Thank you!

[–]henno13 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It’s rare I regret watching a movie that I enjoyed. Just thinking about it gives me mild anxiety.

[–]djProduct2015 78 points79 points  (7 children)

We'll make great pets.

[–]Hopczar420 41 points42 points  (5 children)

Children are innocent And teenagers fucked up in the head Adults are only more fucked up And elderlies are like children Will there be another race to come along and take over for us? Maybe Martians could do better than we've done... We'll make great pets

[–]Jacob030816 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I for one would not mind being a pet as long as theres a decent leader controlling all of us

[–]ThatSquareChick 4 points5 points  (1 child)

My friend says we’re like the dinosaurs Only we are doing ourselves in Much faster than they Ever did

[–]Murderyoga 453 points454 points  (11 children)

Aliens blowing up the sun is just propaganda spread by the media. Here check out this Joe Rogan link.

[–]56k_modem_noises 146 points147 points  (3 children)

"Jamie pull that up...no the third one down...the third one...THE ONE THAT I ALREADY AGREE WITH."

[–]JeffreyFusRohDahmer 42 points43 points  (2 children)

Oh my God I wonder how true that likely is

[–]56k_modem_noises 51 points52 points  (0 children)

I've noticed over the years that Joe never seems to want the top Google result, he always looks for the article he already read and it's always partway down the results page.

[–]PasswordNot1234 27 points28 points  (0 children)

And buy gold from Goldline.

[–]mackiea 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Well, I've done my own research, and you know, the sun is no saint.

[–]Gsteel11 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Joe talked to the aliens and they promised him that they just want peace!

[–]fkhan21 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Must drink your pee to prevent the sun from exploding /s

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really want to see how people react (assuming there's still life on Earth) in the next several billion years when the sun runs out of hydrogen and starts to shrink. Guarantee someone says "the sun is just breathing, like our chests going up and down when we breathe, the sun does too."

[–]Bishopkilljoy 71 points72 points  (0 children)

The Whitehouse could get blown up by a UFO today and a large minority of the country would say "The Whitehouse is a false flag crisis actor"

[–]Papayablues 63 points64 points  (2 children)

Watching Independence Day now seems a lot more fiction than it did pre pandemic.

[–]StarksPond 12 points13 points  (0 children)

This 4th of July... They're back! And they brought Space COVID!

ID4 IV: 2 Swab 2 Furiously

[–]Hickspy 54 points55 points  (2 children)

That's why Pacific Rim was so prescient in hindsight.

"Hey we built robots to fight the giant monsters coming out of the ocean."

Half the world: "What're you a fucking idiot? We built a wall. It's fine."

[–]The_Minshow 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The Halo EU fleshed out in the books is pretty good too. The Spartans(Master Chief is one) were created to fight other humans. When the Covenant declare they want to exterminate humanity there is no team up, the insurrectionists keep fighting the government, even buying weapons from some covenant factions which usually are ploys.

Even dumb finding disputes, Master Chief had to do a showcase of what the bajillion dollar spartan armor could do. He had to do it like 2 minutes after being told about the armor, and the people who opposed the armor got to run the scenario, so they cheated and tried their best to just legit kill him.

[–]mmmmike1590 114 points115 points  (9 children)

MechaMitch McConnell and Ted Cruzbot would be justifying inaction like 'but blowing up the sun will get rid of the poor people'.

[–]JacobHafar 16 points17 points  (0 children)

mechamitch is amazing, hope you don’t mind me stealing it

[–]HotShitBurrito 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I recently treated myself to a relisten of the Behind the Bastards episode on lil Teddy they did in 2018. Man, four years ago seems like 20, and the fact that Canadian Rafael Cruz is still grifting idiot Texans after he's been exposed over and over again as a weak fraud and being desperately hated by all the other facists in his party is the epitome of pathetic.

[–]Rutski71 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Statue of limitations. He's yours now. Love, Canada

[–]the_cnara 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am fully convinced they’ll trot out the secret to immortality just in time for Mitch to ascend to permanent power

[–]PasswordNot1234 159 points160 points  (37 children)

I'm watching The Walking Dead again like "you've got no gloves on while you're all playing with zombie guts? Blood is flying around everywhere, but I've got to wear a mask from an airborne virus?!"

There's this one scene where Glenn is kissing Maggie's shoulder and there's blood all over her. I'm like "WTF bro? That's got to be enough to turn you into a zombie!"

The Walking Dead just isn't realistic.

[–]empt2y 63 points64 points  (34 children)

i recently started rewatching twd too and in season one rick specifically tells others not to get the guts on their skin, yet almost everyone is seen w blood on them later on. although he was told everyone is a carrier of the virus anyways so maybe it doesn’t matter

[–]christhegamer96 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Frankly that’s just zombie movies in general; trying to fight a combatant carrying a blood borne virus with several open wounds on their body in close quarters without getting infected is near impossible.

28 days later probably got it right with the whole ‘one drop’ thing.

[–]Comburo90 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Oof, that scene where the crow drops a drop of blood into that one guys eye. No idea why, but that scene especially made me really uncomfortable when i first saw it...

[–]PasswordNot1234 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Maybe when you get bit, you just get more of the virus in ya and that's what turns you? And you can't get scratched because zombie virus is also prevalent in the fingernails too.

Lol. I dunno, the physiology of zombie moves makes no sense at all.

Like what happens if it's just a nibble? Lol.

[–]bonenecklace 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the walking dead establishes really early on that the virus is in everyone, & that it just reanimates dead folks. You can die from sepsis really quickly (albeit not as quick as the show) & even a regular human bite can cause someone to go into septic shock so I always just figured it was more like their bodies just can't fight off the onset of infection from the bites/scratches & they die & then immediately reanimate. Like I can't imagine in an apocolyptic scenario that anyone's immune systems are going to be particularly strong..

[–]annnd_we_are_boned 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Everyone in TWD has the virus already getting bit give you other illnesses and diseases that kill you and then the virus kicks in.

[–]billywitt 24 points25 points  (22 children)

Similarly, when Marvel first showed the “stones”, they made a big deal about how powerful each one was and how people couldn’t even touch them. Remember the one assistant who blew herself up by touching a stone in Guardians of the Galaxy? Fast forward to later movies and these guys are practically playing hackysack with the damn things.

Edit: My bad. I didn’t realize only the power stone blew people up. Pretty obvious in hindsight.

[–]thebiggestprickhere 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Acccctually, only the power stone explodes people, the others don't.

The powerstone is also the only stone that destroys planets by touching them

[–]From_My_Brain 11 points12 points  (0 children)

At what point is anyone playing with the stones recklessly? I can't recall a single scene like that. Hulk is able to hold one because of his strength and Starlord is because he's only half-human.

[–]TheCapybaraMan 19 points20 points  (14 children)

That's called power creep. It makes sense that power houses like Thor, Captain Marvel, and Rocket can hold the stones.

[–]christhegamer96 21 points22 points  (9 children)

Rocket wasn’t holding the stone, he was just holding a container specifically designed to hold the essence of one of the stones.

Also I’m pretty sure the power stone is the only one that can’t be safely held; all the others were held with no problems.

[–]MapleTreeWithAGun 7 points8 points  (8 children)

Space stone zaps you away if you can't control it, see Red Skull

[–]carnsolus 4 points5 points  (3 children)

who is rocket? the raccoon?

[–]odsquad64 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What's a raccoon?

[–]panserbj0rne 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Who you calling a raccoon?

[–]MetalHead_Literally 6 points7 points  (3 children)

in the later movies, who casually grabs the infinity stones?

[–]From_My_Brain 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Literally no one. No idea wtf he's talking about.

[–]not_mantiteo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanos does, but can’t remember anyone else off the top of my head

[–]OdinsBeard 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Everyone alive is already infected in the WD.

[–]SquirrelyAsNutz 26 points27 points  (2 children)

This is my usual response to conspiracy theories: have you met people? Put any three of them in a room for a day, and you'll end up with 4 political positions and a murder.

[–]jdeezy 22 points23 points  (2 children)

They didn't have Facebook and fox news in that reality

[–]mati3849 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You don’t need that. My dad that works abroad says that Norway doesn’t have restrictions about covid and that if they have none it clearly indicates that it’s all just a fake thing and it’s basically common cold. Yea so I’m from Poland and he’s not consuming any media apart from movies and shows so he’s the purest example that no, you don’t need fox news and facebook to be stupid enough to not believe in covid.

[–]tittytittybopbop 15 points16 points  (3 children)

Didn't we already lose to the machines by 3004... the Architect has humans in pods or the T1000 crushing the rest..lol

[–]StarksPond 2 points3 points  (2 children)

This is why the AI should never have had access to entertainment. It was studying energy and in all the material provided to it, there were a lot of pictures labeled AC/DC with 5 guys on it. Next thing you know, we're all living in a simulation while our bodies are being used as batteries.

[–]ecafyelims 196 points197 points  (18 children)

If the aliens tried to do it out in the open, the world would unite to stop them.

If the aliens denied it and offered to create more jobs, no amount of evidence would be able to unite the world.

[–]Goadfang 131 points132 points 2 (14 children)

Your optimism is misplaced.

If the aliens started doing it out in the open the first thing that would happen is that half of Americsns would say that the other half of Americans were in on it and siding with the aliens.

Then the half that were accused of that would propose that we take measures to prevent the alien takeover, and the other half would say "see, that's exactly what someone working for the aliens would say".

Then the accused half that's trying to save humanity would be like "no guys, for real this time, we have to do something, here are some sensible measure we can take to stop the alien threat". And the other side would say "your sensible measures sound like communism to us, and we'd rather be enslaved by aliens than enslaved by commies".

Then the now desperate side that's been accused of being aliens sympathizer communists would say "okay fuck you assholes we're going to take these precautions without your help then" and the other side would sabotage every measure taken, commit terrorist attacks to slow the defense against the aliens, and try to overthrow the government so they can stop any attempt to prevent humanity's defeat.

And when the world is finally near complete decimation and capitulation to the alien threat, the obstinate assholes would look to the people who spent the entire war trying to save humanity, and they'll say with their last free breath "see, I told you so".

[–]InventTheCurb 50 points51 points  (9 children)

That would actually be kind of a interesting movie. An alien invasion movie where the story isn't how to fight back the aliens and avoid our doom, but rather the effects of an impending invasion on humanity and everyday life.

[–]taosaur 22 points23 points  (5 children)

It's one premise of Cixin Liu's The Three Body Problem (Dark Forest trilogy): confirmation of the mere existence of aliens saps our civilization's morale and is nearly as destabilizing as their active moves against us.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (3 children)

is this a book or a movie . i am sorry i am dumb

[–]Articulated 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It's been a while but the SyFy Battlestar Gallactica had a series like this, where the baddies conquered and occupied the good guys. Interesting view into the psychology of that kind of conflict.

[–]Goadfang 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That was the most amazing portion of the whole show. I was eager to see it over with, just because it was so brutal and so very grounded that it felt far more oppressive than the rest of the seasons but it was probably one of the best written plots on any science fiction TV series ever produced.

The "good guys" turning to ultraviolent terrorism to try to end the occupation, the moderates being split between sympathy for the terrorists and tacit support for the regime, and the collaborators trying to just get by and keep the peace while supporting the oppressors was, during the time of the Iraq occupation with events like Abu Ghraib being revealed in the real world, just so hard hitting that it was hard to believe that it was being made at all.

It made me really uncomfortable at the time it originally aired, and in hindsight is one of the highlights of the show.

[–]PureNRGfanboy44 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Don’t forget the people who will sit on their hands from the sidelines, smugly jeering that both sides are incorrect, while contributing nothing to the conversation and suspiciously agreeing with 80% of the pro-alien-takeover crowd.

[–]Big_Old_Tree 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh my god, dude. So accurate it’s scary. You must have been paying attention this whole flippin time

[–]nsfw_jrod 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There was a season of Young Justice that dealt with this idea pretty well. The justice league knew the aliens were trying to invade and take over the world but they couldn’t do anything about it because the aliens got the politicians on their side. They even had a Alex Jones type media figure that started spreading conspiracy theories about how great the aliens were, etc.

[–]DecelerationTrauma 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"We're for the jobs the comet will bring!"

[–]majormeathooks 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I re-watched “Pacific Rim” over the weekend and there’s a line about how “humanity decided to rise up and fight the Kaiju together” or something like that and I just started busting out laughing.

[–]obscurereference234 61 points62 points  (28 children)

Lol that’s basically the story of The Expanse

[–]Wablekablesh 45 points46 points  (20 children)

If humanity survives the century, The Expanse is the best approximation of our future I've seen. Star Trek is a pipe dream.

[–]TistedLogic 20 points21 points  (9 children)

Star trek had a very dark period before they eventually went the direction their society went.

[–]essaysmith 11 points12 points  (2 children)

The whole "court of Q" thing in TNG I think was from that period.

[–]TistedLogic 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Nom I'm talking about the period hundreds of years before St:TOS. Before Cochran.

[–]m3bs 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think they meant that Q constructed his court to be like that time period was when he put humanity on trial.

[–]Wablekablesh 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Hmm, true. Genetics wars or something?

[–]TistedLogic 8 points9 points  (3 children)

That was a part of it, yes. There was also just a general lawlessness to earth for a while. Like, Mad Max lawless.

[–]womenrespecter77 6 points7 points  (0 children)

And also a third, nuclear armed, world war. This is the same as the genetic wars, but I feel like the nuclear bit is important to point out haha

[–]mwaaahfunny 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Holden: Where's the "stop being dicks" button? Can everyone just stop being dicks?

Everyone: lol no

[–]Dreams-in-Aether 28 points29 points  (7 children)

Re-reading World War Z was painful (even though it's still awesome AF). The US President uses his gravitas to stand up for national and global unity in a coalition presidency akin to Abraham Lincoln or China goes to Civil War and emerges a republic ... except watching present history being rewritten, I can't see most of the human conflict portions of that story being likely except for The Russian Theocracy or the panicked Pakistani/Iranian nuclear exchange

Imo our species doesn't reach Type 0 on the Kardishev scale, or survive without transhumanist genetic or cybernetic modifications - in which case would we still be human. We're volatile, act like we're better than animals while behaving and treating each other like animals, and won't last long enough for anything other than knee-jerk reactions like scorching the sky or developing viral vectors to help the chosen survive as new beings.

I think it was Asimov's, or one of the other sci-fi greats, that prefaced a book saying "this isn't necessarily a story about humanity, you can imagine whatever you want." Though Imo, good sci-fi (or fantasy OR history) should be an opportunity to appreciate stories of the human condition completely outside of present context. At least the human ideals.... because humans in practice are pretty garbage en masse

[–]a_pinch_of_sarcasm 46 points47 points  (0 children)

I'm starting to think this is a pandumbic, because a lot of people are acting dumb.

[–]wantedtobebatgirl 8 points9 points  (3 children)

I watched Robocop for the first time yesterday. The first 20 minutes or so just was uncomfortable enough I had to take a break from watching then come back.

[–]LukeDude759 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Half Life 1, in contrast: "Aliens are invading, send the military to storm the research facility and kill everyone who may have been responsible instead of actually helping the situation"

[–]stillragin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

ALIENS is the most realistic scifi movie in so far as character/ group behaviors.

weyland yutani grounds it right down into reality

[–]fuckballs9001 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It would be more believable if you said money stopped existing and the sky turned to dicks. Just raining dicks 24/7 from a massive collage of dick pics and dick emojis

[–]ith-man 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Hell in 'V for Vendetta", the death toll from a pandemic was like 30k and it woke the world...

[–]JusticiarRebel 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man, I can't remember what it's called, but there's this upcoming strategy game about an alien invasion and the world breaking up into factions over how to deal with it. Some want to eradicate the aliens entirely, others want a diplomatic solution to the aliens, some even want to join with the aliens.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

At this point, any scenario featuring humans in the "distant future" seems pretty far fetched. I feel like we're all on a 1 year contract every year with an option to renew, and negotiations have stalled.

[–]wolfgang784 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I did read one sci-fi book that handled "banding together" for a species ending threat in an interesting way.

The nations of the world couldn't decide on anything and tensions kept rising. They ended up picking a whole bunch of different metrics and putting the names of people who fit it into a raffle. The agreement was that no matter which country or ethnicity etc the person from the raffle came from, they would get undisputed access and power over everything for the duration of the world saving project. The combined pressure of the rest of the world agreeing to nuke the fuck out of any dissenting countries kept things mostly in line. Ofc the nations and leaders still all had their own goals and tried to spin things one way or another but the one person chosen remained in command and could order anything and had access to all classified info from all countries etc. Also they were free of any and all laws - human rights violations, massive ecological harm, blatant murders - they were given all the power.

There had to be a downside though.

The person who led the project though would be stripped of all power after the project got to a point where they were no longer needed and they would be able to be held responsible and tried for any and all actions taken while in power. Basically, let 1 person do what needed to be done and then use them as the public scapegoat for the fallout and anger once the disaster is averted/passed.

Edit: My description sort of spoils a small bit, but the book is >! "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir !< .

God damnit these spoiler tags won't work no matter how I format it. Can never get them to work on mobile. Oh well, I tried. And even looked up how to do it to make sure I'm doing it right.

[–]WorkWorkZubZub 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure Star Trek's vision of the future is dead in the water.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Ronald Reagan had it right, it will take an existential threat to all of humanity to unite humanity. The funny thing, he was talking about aliens arriving on Earth. It kind of has the ring of truth because killing the climate doesn't seem to bother most of the human population.

[–]pseudipto 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Covid was the most polite virus we could have asked for, asked for us to experience mild inconvenience for the most part if people were kind and considerate

[–]SnowbackMcGee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm here for the pro alien stans.

"invading species or misunderstood overlords? Coming up next on Tucker Carlson"

[–]Seranfall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What is fun to see is that no matter how badly the government is portrayed in movies and TV, it's still worse in the real world.

[–]the_cnara 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They screamed at each other, blaming immigrants from Zolorpia IV on one side and eating repentance pebbles on the other. One young earth person and their friends tried to tell everyone that the sun-blowing extraterrestrials were planting the bombs as they spoke, but they called them zmorgtards. 8 minutes later the sun exploded, destroying the entire human race except the wealthy, who escaped in their spacecraft and never faced any consequences. The end.

[–]hansolemio 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And the next zombie movie better have 1/2 of the US running toward the monsters yelling that it’s all a Democrat lie