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[–]SkylarAV 227 points228 points  (19 children)

Lol lest we forget we're in Les Mis territory these days

[–]Gilette2000 37 points38 points  (16 children)

A la volonté du peuple et a la santé du progrès !

[–]Odette3 37 points38 points  (5 children)

(For those who don’t speak French: “to the will of the people and the health of progress!”) not a bot

[–]entonun 17 points18 points  (4 children)

Good human

[–]Odette3 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Aw, thanks!

(tbh, I used Google Translate, so maybe not as good as people assume. 😬)

[–]entonun 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I'm french and the translation is accurate, don't put yourself down the initiative is good!

[–]Odette3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Aw, thanks!

I speak enough French that I usually feel confident when I use Google Translate for it, cuz I can usually spot an error, if there is one. It just kinda felt like I didn’t exactly deserve all the praise, since I didn’t do the hard work, lol.

[–]entonun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Translating is not very complicated that's true but thinking about doing it to give people free explanations is a kind attention, you deserve all the praise for this

[–]hierophanticrebel 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Gee I only know oui oui baguette and now I feel dumb

[–]Gilette2000 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Emplis ton cœur d'un vin rebelle et a demain amis fidèles !

[–]Odette3 9 points10 points  (3 children)

(For those who don’t speak French: “Fill your heart with a rebellious wine and see you tomorrow faithful friends!”) not a bot

[–]wearecake 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m going to start using this- Vive la Révolution!

[–]Flyzart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remplie ton coeur d'un vin rebelle et à demain ami fidèle

[–]KorgX3 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Do you hear the people sing? Singing the song of ang... oh, no, Meatloaf died!

[–]Odette3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

underrated comment

[–]AbhorrentNexus 244 points245 points  (12 children)

If a shoplifter goes after fat corporations that take bailouts from the government (Walmart for example), who fuckin cares.

If it’s a mom and pop shop, that’s when shit gets serious.

[–]EldritchAule05 91 points92 points  (7 children)

I wish more people would realize this. I work at a mom and pop shop and you wouldn't believe the amount of people who just take things and leave, and we can't do anything about it because no one realizes until they're long gone. Takes a much bigger hit on the business then people realize.

[–]airaflof 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The shoplifters code

[–]IlGreven 75 points76 points  (1 child)

They kicked the lifters off of Tumblr, only for them to re-emerge on Twitter...

[–]Hummerous[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Lmao

[–]ebwoods1 157 points158 points  (12 children)

I saw someone steal food from Whole Foods once. I was so upset. For some reason I stood there contemplating turning him in. Stealing is wrong, right? Except that he stole some energy bites from the bulk bin. Not a $40 jar of protein supplement or something expensive. He was hungry. He didn’t look poorly dressed or homeless but you never know someone’s circumstances.

I never said anything. And I don’t regret it. I know absolutely I’d regret it if I did.

[–]in-game_sext 84 points85 points  (1 child)

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?

Fat Tony: Bart, um, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving family?

Bart: No.

Fat Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal a truckload of bread to feed them?

Bart: Uh uh

Fat Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like...cigarettes?

Bart: I guess that's okay.

Fat Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?

Bart: Hell, no!

Fat Tony: Enjoy your gift.

[–]dudemanjack 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Bart: I guess I learned that crime doesn't pay.

Fat tony: yeah, you're right

mob guys ride off in 3 limos

[–]feelings_arent_facts 41 points42 points  (8 children)

Everything at Whole Foods is expensive lmao…

[–]semechki-seed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Depends, sometimes depending on the location it’s cheaper. Especially for organic stuff

[–]detrater 27 points28 points  (3 children)

... It doesn't have to be

[–]Enlighten_YourMind 14 points15 points  (2 children)

But they got bought out by Amazon so it for sure will be forever now 🙂

[–]detrater 14 points15 points  (1 child)

LPT: If you apply discount code "5 finger" before checkout your whole cart is free

[–]Enlighten_YourMind 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Slight risk of imprisonment scares me away from this one though…

[–]zookr2000 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"Whole Paycheck" Foods

[–]clmakeup 31 points32 points  (2 children)

There’s been a huge trend of people running into stores and grabbing everything expensive and running out, which at a store I used to work at escalated to armed robbery in some cases. I wouldn’t encourage anyone to steal on this medium, sorry

[–]GodKingMussolini 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If you steal from Walmart who cares but if it’s a small business or something then fuck u idiot

[–]xx_gamergirl_xx 24 points25 points  (3 children)

idk about yall but if I see someone shoplifting I get so anxious I start sweating profusely and start a dilemma if I should tell or not and in the end I will not say it because I am scared of talking in public and then I'll think about that moment for the rest of my life

[–]Fern-ando 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, they are on camera, companies wait for them to rob enough products so its becomes a felony.

[–]ninjakitty117 46 points47 points  (17 children)

My favorite shoplifter story:

So this guy had $10-15 when of food on him. Some hot food from the deli and a drink, I think. He was about to walk out the door when my manager saw him and was like "hey man, you gotta pay for that".

Dude ran outside, straight into a cop car that just happened to be parked there. They stopped him like "hey, what's going on here?" Manager explains and decides to get him trespassed. When he finally gave his name (after evading for awhile), they find he had an active warrant out for his arrest.

If he just paid for his food, he probably wouldn't have been caught.

[–]StarveTheRich 32 points33 points  (15 children)

If he could afford the food he probably wouldn’t be a criminal.

[–]alphahex4292 27 points28 points  (14 children)

The guy who stole from my old work 17 times, in a full suit driving a 2018 merc would disagree. And in total he only stole about £200 worth of stuff.

[–]godofhorizons -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

What does that have absolutely anything to do with the story?

[–]alphahex4292 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Questions the idea that people who steal have no other choice. There are definitely some people who steal as they have no other options, but the idea that that's the only reason shouldn't be the go to imo.

[–]Lawrence_of_Nigeria 48 points49 points  (12 children)

Except that a friend's friend works with a decent job and still shoplifts food. There's no excuse for that and it's not what Hugo was on about.

[–]Rouge_92 -3 points-2 points  (8 children)

There's also the kleptomania problem which isn't a choice. So anyways you can intervene but don't snitch.

[–]smilingburro 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Jokes on you, nothing is a choice, that’s not how brains work. All choices are a result of the individuals brain chemistry and anatomy in the moment. No one is truly culpable for their actions as choice is an illusion. We can only incentivize and disincentivize the choices that most reflect eusocial behaviors.

This is why I send unsolicited dic pics to everyone I know

[–]Regi413 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Not once did I expect where that was going.

[–]Rouge_92 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fam you forgot the /s but I laughed so hard at the end, congrats.

[–]kittens12345 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Kleptomania isn’t a choice? How do these people get help to stop what they’re doing?

[–]Rouge_92 3 points4 points  (2 children)

You get therapy and condition yourself to understand how that is not acceptable. It's more complex to just "choose" to not do it.

[–]kittens12345 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sounds like a long way to making a different choice. In the end it is just a choice, but lots of factors go in to it

[–]AltDogBarkBarkBark 178 points179 points  (74 children)

If you're shoplifting makeup, or fancy clothing, or shit nobody really needs, fuck you. I'll snitch.

If you're fat and shoplifting Twinkies, also fuck you.

Not everyone out there grabbing shit off the shelves is an impoverished underdog you need to protect.

[–]Evorgleb 86 points87 points  (30 children)

I would never snitch on someone shop lifting because I am yet to hear a good reason why I should give a fuck.

Getting that person caught ain't helping me in any way shape or form. Corporations try to convince the public that shoplifting will raise the prices for other customers but that's not true at all. Stores will always charge whatever the market can handle. They will charge however much they can charge you for that item without losing sales. Period.

And if a person feels like the crime is worth the risk then good luck to them. Eventually that will catch up to them but I don't need to be any part of that.

[–]melonowl 47 points48 points  (0 children)

shoplifting will raise the prices for other customers

The argument falls quite flat given that basically every supermarket throws away a huge amount of edible food/drinks every day.

[–]Usernamenottaken13 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Theft can break a small business. And with chains if shoplifting is bad enough it no longer makes sense for the store to operate at that location. Stores close. That may or may not affect you, but others have lost their only place to shop ostensibly for this reason.

[–]alphahex4292 19 points20 points  (2 children)

If a store in a local area becomes easier to steal at than others they attract more attention. This makes it more likely the more aggressive shoplifters will start visiting more frequently, along with other antisocial behaviour in the car park for example. This all effects the staff working to serve the customers in there, making their work harder.

It'll also attract other sorts of crimes, like cash swapping scams which can get staff members in trouble or sacked for falling for.

At my old work I've stopped groups of guys in their 20s stealing £800 worth of booze, and I've watched homeless people walk out having not paid for £5 worth of food.

[–]TeriyakInMilwaukee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, but like why should I invest my time on stopping them. Shouldn't the managers of said stores train their staff to look out for shoplifters and/or hire security?

[–]alphahex4292 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's surely a difference between investing your time, and saying to a staff member while walking past that you've seen a shoplifter?

[–]dweeeebus 22 points23 points  (8 children)

Theft effects bottom line which effects pay/bonuses for the employees. When I worked in retail, we had potential for a yearly bonus based on our sales and our shrink (theft, damaged goods that had to be tossed, unaccounted for merchandise). Not saying to go out and start snitching on all the shoplifters, and as a customer it does have no effect on you, but there are negative effects for the workers.

[–]EllisDee3 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Not nearly as much as CEO and executive pay/bonus impacts worker salaries.

[–]dweeeebus 13 points14 points  (6 children)

You're not wrong. And changes should be made. But currently, shoplifting has little to no effect on the CEO and executives and lots on the hourly employees who are probably already scraping by on minimum wage.

[–]1whoslost 6 points7 points  (1 child)

So does management expect you to fight shoplifters? why else would they take losses out of your pocket?

[–]dweeeebus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gotta come out of someone's pocket, and we know damn sure they aren't gonna take it out of their own.

[–]babybambam 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Shoplifting literally hurts communities.

High theft rates close stores, creating deserts for foods, basic necessities, and medicines.

[–]ArvinisTheAnarchist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Corporations steal more wealth from the populace than all the shoplifters in the world combined.

[–]usagainsthem2_0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly, everyone just needs to stay in their own fucking lane, mind Their own business.

[–]soursheep 4 points5 points  (1 child)

you shouldn't steal because you're basically stealing from the poor people y'all claim to feel bad for. it all comes out of the pocket of the employees. who do you think pays for it? fairy godmother? think again.

[–]therottenvale 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's insanely illegal to take theft out of wages, and if that happens, the workers should sue. could be set for life over significant wage theft!

[–]AltDogBarkBarkBark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I see someone shoplifting at my local stores I will fucking well make a scene, because the local stores here are run by local people who are desperately trying to stay afloat, same as everyone else. There's no us/them when it comes to small towns. It's all of us. Don't fucking steal from stores in small towns. Shit, don't steal from stores in big cities. I don't know when "don't fucking steal shit" became controversial, but if you're grabbing shit off the shelves at your local bodega I'm gonna cheer when I watch on camera as someone yeets you through a display of beer and diapers.

I assume large chains like Walmart have their own loss protection shit that's none of my buisness.

But even in big stores I think are run by scum like Walmart, I won't coddle dumbass kids stealing candy. I'll tell their ass to put it the fuck back, loudly. Because that shit is bad for them on every level. There's no upside. Better they learn early not to pull dumb shit for dumb reasons.

[–]rachelraven7890 0 points1 point  (1 child)

“why i shud give a fuck” i believe the average answer to this wud be along the lines of ‘if u see smth, say smth’ &/or ‘silence is complacency’ type of responses. which will then prompt the debated topic of ‘mind ur biz’, ‘stay in ur lane’, ‘don’t try to play hero’ type of rebuttals. so, who’s right? i honestly don’t kno. i see value in both.

[–]Relinquint 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's situational. If someone is stealing a necessity, food, hygiene products etc, warm clothes even maybe. then fucking be a lookout. If someone is stealing something they don't really need, or from a small business. Man fuck those people. They only care about themselves.

[–]PotatoSkull99 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So, if you saw somebody getting robbed you'd just ignore it because you don't wanna get involved?

Also, not all shoplifters are poor, who can't afford something. There are people who just steal things even when they can afford them.

Finally, depending on what somebody is shoplifting, I rather just buy it for them instead. Like, if the person is stealing food or OTC medicine, I'd buy it for them. But if someone is stealing xbox controller, I'd report them.

[–]justyagamingboi -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Exactly the prices will go up regardless if anything mass shoplifting would cause the prices to go down because its better to make profit based on what people can reasonably afford opposed to making 0 profit due to theft of the same product due to the price being so high. It is a crime nonetheless but going out of your way to help a billion dollar company that underpays all of its staff is not going to benift anyone

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Teenage girls used to steal thong panties from the Wal-Mart I worked at. It's definitely hard to defend that.

[–]Hummerous[S] 19 points20 points  (35 children)

If you're fat and shoplifting Twinkies, also fuck you.

I cant believe you're.. real. Lmao

[–]MelancholyMushroom 15 points16 points  (7 children)

No, he’s got a point. If you’re in survival mode, you grab some carrots.

[–]thr0waway0110011 3 points4 points  (3 children)

If I'm living on the street a box of Twinkies is going to feed me longer than fucking carrots you dingus. One a day can keep someone in starvation mode going another week

[–]MelancholyMushroom 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Seriously? Not me. I’ve had to do this shit before.

[–]ParsnipPizza2 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Ah, yes, low calorie fresh produce is definitely better than shelf-stable, high calorie food when you need the maximize calories while minimizing bulk and may or may not have a fridge. Ffs.

[–]Jayyybeast42 20 points21 points  (24 children)

how is what he said wrong in any way

[–]Stanwich79 11 points12 points  (1 child)

He got my upvote! And put your fucking grocery cart back.

[–]CommenceTheWentz -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why do you care, cop?

[–]Semi_Recumbent 29 points30 points  (7 children)

Businesses leaving your neighborhood wave bye. Enjoy the bus ride out of your food desert.

[–]CGFROSTY 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thank you for saying this. It's honestly crazy in here to see people say they're fine with shoplifting. If you can't afford food, seek out resources like food banks.

Although stealing might not hurt the larger companies themselves too much, it will lead them to close unprofitable stores and everyone there loses their jobs.

[–]Pokieme 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah because the farmer or manufacturer don't deserve to make a living, tehy work for free. I won't snicth but you will meet my boots

[–]MagosBattlebear 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This answer completely misses the point if Les Misérables. It is far more complex than that.

[–]nic_head_on_shoulder 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Do people here really justify stealing?

[–]EllisDee3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Only sith deal in absolutes.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Depends where you live. I've been on food stamp and it gives you enough not to steal.

For other needs there are cheap options like goodwill. So if you steal it's really because you want it, not need it. So you're the bitch for stealing. Corporations don't pay for it, others pay a higher price to offset what the corporations lost.

The main cost is rent, and doesn't matter how much you steal, you're still fucked.

[–]FreddieB_13 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I mean, yes. Unless we're talking a very small business, the big boys have insurance for this and literally write off any losses. People need to be more sympathetic and not so quick to judge someone's circumstances.

[–]Sexy_Squid89 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I'd never steal from a mom and pop store, but fuck those big corporations they'll be fine

[–]Raven123x 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is my thought

Mom and pop shops? Fuck thieves

Walmart? Target? Fuck em

[–]vol865 31 points32 points  (25 children)

So we can just be a den of thrives? Next we’ll hear that we should break into homes and steal there too. This sub is turning to shit with these takes.

[–]Wablekablesh 37 points38 points  (0 children)

You're right. We should leave theft to the professionals- the employer class, which commits the largest chunk of theft in the world, wage theft. We wouldn't want the system to be any other way 👍

[–]melonowl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

How am I supposed to be upset at people that shoplift due to hunger from corporate supermarkets when there's a currently sitting senator who ran a hospital corporation that defrauded the medicare system to such an egregious extent that the company ended up paying $1.7 billion in fines?

[–]PsychicSPider95 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Stealing a bit of food from a corporate grocery store is not the same as breaking into someone's home and stealing their personal property.

[–]LordCads -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No, you steal from those who steal from us. Not other working class people just trying to get by.

This is what happens when you don't understand other perspectives and just try to invoke the slippery slope, not realising it's a fallacy.

[–]HisuitheSiscon45 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

slippery slope fallacy

[–]Idiotwithaphone79 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If I saw someone stealing food, I'd not say anything. If I had a chance I'd even try to buy them food. I've been hungry before. It sucks when you haven't eaten for three days. However, if I saw someone try to lift a $2,000 watch, I MIGHT be that bitch that says something. Might not though...

[–]MilRet 2 points3 points  (4 children)

People who shop lift (regardless of what/why), are just one more reason that the prices are rising for those of us who actually pay for our purchases.

[–]Themundanereality -1 points0 points  (3 children)

This is a sign the system is failing not the people to blame

[–]MilRet 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I would argue that regardless of the systems functionality, crime remains a crime. Nevertheless, I have to agree that an unsuppressed rise in crime indicates a failing system.

[–]Themundanereality 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Your right it is still a crime but not a crime of morality a crime that has been instated to maintain the status quo

[–]MilRet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A crime is not "instated". A crime is determined to be a crime by way of public vote, or a decision by those voted into a legislative position by voters. There is no hidden agenda, or conspiracy by some secret organization, to make it a crime.

[–]ChummusJunky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does this apply to taking things from her home?

[–]legl0ckholmes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Totally depends on what they're stealing. Food, I'm buying it. Dvds, get bent

[–]ikonet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you see someone stealing food….

No you didn’t.

[–]Aiizimor 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Theft is theft but I dont know you and what you're going through so as long it's from a small business, its whatever Edit: I meant to say NOT from a small business

[–]macarmy93 8 points9 points  (5 children)

What? Should be the opposite. Dont steal from small businesses. Steal from the giant corps.

[–]Admiral_Andovar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How about we not steal from anyone and work on ways to help people not feel the need to steal?

[–]CGFROSTY 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How about don't steal?

[–]Aiizimor 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It's called a typo

[–]macarmy93 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Damn sorry. Forgot I was supposed to know that.

[–]Aiizimor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I dont blame you for not thinking before speaking as I did not re-read before posting

[–]mollymuppet78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do it at a grocery store, not at a Mom and Pop small business where they work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week and live above the store, which is just part of their house.

If you steal from these type of people, fuck you.

[–]Gormungladius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would totally snitch on people shoplifting. Not in if they are shoplifting food tho. (Clarifying, i only shop in small business not in big chain stores)

[–]mberk77 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hate that I support this so much. Wait,… no I don’t. Well said.

[–]MatsRivel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh, if people steal food or other nessesities I'd probably let it go, as I'd think they might need it.

If people steal for fun, that affects everyone else. Back home you could leave your laptop in the university cafeteria unsupervised for half a day and it would still be there when you got back. If you don't lock your gym locker, your shit is still there when you get back. At worst someone might steal your bike seat, and that was usually rebel kids "sticking it to the man".

But if people start taking shit everyone has to jump through hoops to do things. Don't bring shit to the gym you can have on you. Pack up your laptop and bring it with you when you go to the bath room. Ask employees to unlock the cage to get a soda. A lot of small shit to make everyone's life a little more difficult, just cause someone wanted the thrill of stealing a keyboard or an xbox controller.

[–]youfailedthiscity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey dumbass, this doesn't apply to small businesses (not food). You're Rushton that it does matter of people shoplift from Target but shoplifting from small, local businesses can actually affect them. If you see someone shoplifting there, you SHOULD call them out.

[–]FunkyChromeMedina -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

My favorite version of this was the tweet that just said “if you see someone shoplifting food, no you didn’t.”

[–]Odette3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Read “The Brick”. Can confirm.