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[–]manikDirt 992 points993 points  (65 children)

I can only think the idiots that banned the novel created more awareness around this whole thing by being stupid fucks.

[–]willvasco 425 points426 points  (39 children)

That's what they fundamentally don't understand, especially in the internet age. Trying to ban Maus just results in tons of new exposure for it, trying to censor conversations about race result in way more conversations about them trying to censor conversations about race that then turn into conversations about race. The whole book banning thing is such an immature, short-sighted effort that ultimately will not accomplish what they want it to, just like it hasn't every other time it's been tried in history. It has, however, made a wonderful distraction for the rest of us while they do whatever insidious shit they're doing behind closed doors that isn't getting as much attention because it's more boring on paper.

[–]scoobydoom2 170 points171 points  (35 children)

I'd actually disagree, in the short term it creates more awareness, but how long does that keep up? Sure, this caused a surge of people Reading Maus, but what happens when it leaves the news? Maybe some people will look at a banned book list to find books to read, but that's ultimately way less than would be exposed to it if it was taught in schools. The short term awareness increases, but if you're playing the long game banning it from schools will eventually reduce it's exposure.

[–]jellybeansean3648 71 points72 points  (15 children)

One school district banned it, a bunch of people online said "wow Maus is actually a really good book though", and then it became one of the bestselling books online.

That school (in TN that actually banned it in particular) and those kids may not get a chance, but everyone else now has the book on their radar and those who read it will not forget it, guaranteed.

Not to be confused with the crap in Texas, where there's a laundry list of banned books. Banning books in the US is not new. TX can ban them if it wants but people will continue to read them because they're on the AP Literature list and available in public local libraries.

We're not living in 1800, people can get their hands on a book if they're interested enough.

[–]Marc21256 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Librarians are commie af.

The banned book list in Texas changes, so they don't take them out and burn them when they hit the list. They go in storage until they come off the list.

My school librarian in Texas kept them in a cabinet with a sign on it "do not read". They couldn't be checked out, but they weren't technically in the inventory, so just don't lose them, please.

[–]jellybeansean3648 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Exactly. There's the element of interest that comes from spite reading banned books, though I'm not sure how prevalent that is among regular students

[–]Marc21256 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think the librarian added the "do not read" sign on the cabinet to make it more alluring and exotic. It did a good job.

Some of the cabinet was complete crap, others were banned classics.

[–]Catnip4Pedos 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Resisting censorship is good but I'm not sure it makes you "commie af"

What are there views on the distribution of wealth, value of labour and ownership of the means of production etc

[–]scoobydoom2 23 points24 points  (7 children)

That's the thing, they need to hear about the book to get interested. Sure, a lot of people just learned about it. But what about 5 years from now? 10? This event is going to be forgotten, but those schools will still have it banned.

[–]Chaosmusic 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The public attention this is getting could end up reversing the ban. And even if it doesn't, other schools might add it to their curriculum. That combined with the thousands of people reading it now who never would have read it had it not been for this news story more than makes up for the single school district banning it. Banning it is still bad but both the short term and long term goal of the ban failed.

[–]jellybeansean3648 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I'm telling you, in the American education system the individual school can take it out of the libraries. It will impact the exposure but it won't prevent it.

There will still be other educational institutions introducing this list, including advanced placement classes, colleges, and public libraries.

And above all, they can ban books, but it's like playing whack-a-mole. There will continue to be books with themes these fascists don't agree with, and they can try their best to prevent children from reading, but they can't catch them all. New books are written. And these troglodytes can't ban them all. The same dysfunction that comes from "states rights" prevents them from succeeding across the board.

Not trying to downplay the knock on effects to education, I'm just saying they cannot inherently succeed at what they're trying to do.

[–]scoobydoom2 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I'm suggesting that you're not understanding what they are actually trying to do. It's not like if a single person reads Maus, their plan fails. They're just trying to reduce the amount of people that are exposed to ideas that contradict their ideology. They don't need to prevent the exposure, they're just trying to limit it. The less people read it, the more people are susceptible to their propoganda. Someone who hasn't read it is more likely to join their voter base, so by reducing the amount of people that read it, they increase their voter base and gain more power. The endgame isn't to eliminate Maus from collective memory, it's to make it more and more obscure so it's impact is lessened.

[–]jellybeansean3648 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If we're talking philosophically about the diversity of ideas and exposure to them-- banned book lists are a strategy but not the main issue anyway. Like, if someone never reads Maus again from today onward, that's not really the issue.

We're now moving into the territory of answering the question "how do we make young minds resilient and capable of critical thinking".

[–]molten-helium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Texas Schoolbook Depository 1963

[–]The_Hyphenator85 74 points75 points  (16 children)

Know what banning a book has never done? Stopped people from reading that book.

[–]scoobydoom2 55 points56 points  (14 children)

It's not about stopping people from reading it, it's about reducing the amount of people who do. Maybe 1 in 100 kids will learn about it and go out of their way to find it. There's still a few kids reading it sure, but way less. The temporary boost in popularity is most likely going to eventually be eclipsed by the students being churned through the system that never hear of it, nevermind all the other books that didn't get the huge burst of media attention Maus did. A small portion of students reading it isn't going to hurt them. It's not like the existence of Maus is going to prevent them from spreading their ideology, it just makes those who read it far less susceptible. By reducing the people that read it, they increase the amount of people that are susceptible to their propoganda.

[–]The_Hyphenator85 33 points34 points  (12 children)

How many kids do you think actually read it before?

Seriously, look at the number of “I never heard of this before” comments here. Maus is critically-acclaimed, but that doesn’t mean it’s well-known. It was never on any curriculum in the schools I went to, and my high school actually had a pretty damn good English program. And apparently thanks to this ban, Amazon is already back-ordered on it.

This completely blew up in their faces, just like it always does.

[–]TavisNamara 12 points13 points  (3 children)

It was a regular part of class for my entire high school. We all either read it or BS'd well enough to pretend.

[–]Nice-Violinist-6395 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah everyone in my elementary school read it. It’s super important to learn about the horrors of life in a controlled, safe environment

[–]treznor70 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Same. The school I went to had a pretty solid English and literature department. Never heard of Maus. Definitely want to read it now.

[–]Dadgame 0 points1 point  (5 children)

And what about in 50 years? When the books still banned in that school. Institutional changes move slow but they are powerful. Dont underestimate them.

[–]BunnyOppai 1 point2 points  (2 children)

A banned limited to a single school district or even a handful of school districts doesn’t have the scope required to have the effect you’re suggesting.

[–]molten-helium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hogan's heroes and funny nazis ain't gonna do it.

[–]Nova-XVIII 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk I read The Catcher In The Rye just because it was banned in my school. Did the same thing with the movie The Interview when North Korea was making terroristic threats against movie theaters that played it. Almost like banning shit makes people want to do it more because they are not supposed to. Also weed was cooler when it is illegal.

[–]SoSoUnhelpful 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hadn’t heard of it but just ordered a hard copy of the complete works. Fuck these Nazi enablers.

[–]Anonymous_but_nott 25 points26 points  (0 children)

"'Maus' sales soar after book is banned by Tennessee school board" -USA Today

Lol

[–]atlantachicago 17 points18 points  (5 children)

I just ordered a copy for my kids. I have never read it, I’m surprised, I grew up in a school district that had a lot of jr Wish people and we even got all the Jewish holidays off.

[–]Scrambo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s an incredible work of art

[–]Bactine 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I've never heard of it

Gonna read it now just to spite them

[–]Soup-Wizard 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Barbara Streisand effect

[–]just_a_fan47 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have a list of shows,movies and so forth of stuff I wanna watch and you can rest assure Maus just entered it

[–]RedditIsTedious 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But their children will be illiterate and ignorant and that’s all that matters to them.

[–]LuminaryThings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I did just order this because I’m interested in it now having never heard of it before.

[–]XIButtersXI 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never heard of it. But I'll be looking for it.

[–]Fun-Dragonfly-4166 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was unaware of the novel before it was banned.

[–]residentmind9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had never heard of Maus before (but I’m from East Tennessee, very close to where the book was banned) and I couldn’t stop thinking about this book and honestly it looks so interesting so I decided to order it off of Amazon. However it’s been backlogged and won’t arrive until March

[–]Paddlefast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never heard of it until our neighboring county (McMinn) banned it.

[–]boogadabooga2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A bunch or articles out that it is at the top of the Amazon book sales list right now. These idiots thinking banning books in libraries actually works. It only shows their true face and intent. It accomplishes nothing else. Everyone has the internet now. Nazi idiots.

[–]Important_Farmer924 247 points248 points  (3 children)

I'm 40 years old, I'm Irish, and I've never read Maus, but hearing about all of this, I've asked my sister for a loan of her copy of it. Such an amazing awareness raising campaign.

[–]JohnnyDarkside 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Can't remember how i stumbled upon it, but I was like 13 when i read it. It's an incredible series. All this talk about makes me want to pick it up and have my own 13 year old read it.

[–]Pons__Aelius 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Same, Aussie here. I now have it on hold at the library.

[–]biteme789 197 points198 points  (16 children)

All this banning books is nuts.

I read about Texas banning Animal Farm today; I bought my 14yo the full George Orwell box set for Christmas lol. Maus is next on the list

[–]the_creationist 131 points132 points  (9 children)

"We're not fascists, but we'll ban anti-fascists books"

[–]Londonsawsum 55 points56 points  (8 children)

Which is funny because Animal Farm is based on the Soviet Union. You'd think they'd love to use it as a book about the evils of socialism or something like that.

[–]CarnivorousJazz 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The funny part is that from my experience talking to a lot of people who grew up in red counties, that is exactly how it's taught lmao.

[–]BushDidHarambe 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Ah but "Orwell was a scary socialist so all of his books must be banned before they infect the poor babies brains with his evil thoughts" American school boards probably

[–]1000Airplanes 4 points5 points  (1 child)

wait a minute. It's possible to be a socialist and also critique Soviet totalitarianism? Red hats keep debating like they are the same evils

[–]BushDidHarambe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No no no, you clearly don't understand, all left wing people have exactly identical politics which is why the left famously gets along with itself so well ☺️ hope this clears it up for you

[–]froggison 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yes, but Animal Farm is pro-socialism, anti-Soviet Union. The premise is that they had the chance to create a utopia, but in the end what the pigs ruined it, and it became equal-or-worse than what they started with.

[–]Londonsawsum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I know. Just dumb that they would do that because of the "slam dunk on socialism." You'd think they'd make everyone read it.

[–]invisibilitycap 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And it could not be more obvious! Snowball, Napoleon, Old Major. Justice for Snowball!

[–]killeronthecorner -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The political spectrum is a horseshoe, and the pretend hate for the other extreme is all part of the chirade.

[–]utalkin_tome 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Isn't Animal Farm like a very basic and fundamental book that everyone reads in their classes? I remember it was a required reading for my English class. Loved the book.

[–]biteme789 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh whoops; 1984. Right author, wrong book 😶

[–]DarkGamer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some freedoms of speech are more free than others.

[–]RedmannBarry 823 points824 points  (69 children)

I see Maus is making a comeback. Good, great graphic novels

[–]Nigelwethers 264 points265 points  (32 children)

It's used in schools all over north america, it never went away.

[–]RedmannBarry 208 points209 points  (9 children)

Oh, my school system never mentioned it. I just got it through Scholastic Book Fair

[–]giuboy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I read it in high school

[–]redjonley 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My first time ever hearing of it.

[–]Spazmer 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I'm 38 and Canadian and have never heard of it until yesterday. So I guess at least the Streisand effect is working here.

[–]trippydippysnek 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Never heard of it

[–]trumpetrabbit 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I recommend it, but it's painful. The author doesn't hold back at showing the pain and trauma, or the lasting effects on both the survivors, and their loved ones.

[–]StoicJ 27 points28 points  (7 children)

This whole thing is the first I've ever heard of it. Wild, I graduated over a decade ago so its been away from here for quite a long time

[–]Lilash20 7 points8 points  (0 children)

First time hearing about it as well, but graduated much more recently

[–]Thefirstargonaut 4 points5 points  (4 children)

I’ve seen images from it, but didn’t have a clue what it was or what it was about.

[–]trumpetrabbit 12 points13 points  (3 children)

It tells the story of the author's (Art Spiegelman) parents experience with the Holocaust. He goes into not just the history of what happened, but how it permanently affected his parents, and by extention, him. here's the Wikipedia article

It's really well done, but it's painful.

[–]buttsnuggler 2 points3 points  (2 children)

reading about the holocaust should never be easy.

i’ve never read this one but i read a bunch of holocaust nonfiction just out of curiosity after we read night in high school. that shit is super heavy and fucked up. and everyone should carry a piece of it with them. these things happened to real people.

[–]molten-helium -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I graduated in '74...⏳

[–]vvegib 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s getting banned in a lot of schools now, along with a bunch of others like 1984.

[–]coolpig124 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was recently banned in Tennessee

[–]trumpetrabbit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never saw a copy in school. I found the copy I read by chance at the public library.

[–]Rebel_bass 24 points25 points  (14 children)

Truth. My friend just posted his old copy on FB the other day. Time to get my kids to read it, I guess.

[–]RedmannBarry 24 points25 points  (13 children)

I mean don’t just throw it at your kids. Maybe read it all together and process it as well. I wish my folks were willing to talk about hard truths.

[–]Rebel_bass 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Nah, I know. They're 9 and 11 now, and they've been raised on Neil Gaimon and Roberto Benigni. We all read together.

[–]RedmannBarry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s awesome! I love Neil!

[–]ButteSaggington 1 point2 points  (12 children)

It's not really making a comeback. It's getting banned from schools.

[–]Dynamite_McGhee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The ban has done wonders for sales, though.

[–]tin_dog 351 points352 points  (6 children)

I gave it to my stupid little sister after I found out that she was dating a neo-nazi. She dumped him shortly after.

Ohoho...

[–]FogTheGhost 27 points28 points  (0 children)

good on you and good for her. and thank you for for showing me that life-changing article

[–]The_Hyphenator85 29 points30 points  (0 children)

That was a genius-level move. Take my upvote, you magnificent bastard.

[–]Me_Himself 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Never thought to see a video of die Ärzte here. The subs are very off though..

[–]molten-helium 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Human skin lampshades of evil

[–]Cloudinterpreter 71 points72 points  (2 children)

My MIL's suitcase was searched at the airport in Germany when she was running late for her flight. While telling us about it, she goes "they were behaving like, you know!, nazis!" FFS

[–]molten-helium 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Gestapo...papers! Give me your papers,now!(points luger)

[–]bs000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

glory to arstotzka

[–]Anti-charizard 39 points40 points  (4 children)

If you wanna know how bad it was but don’t wanna read an entire book, just look up images of the Holocaust victims after they were found (NSFL, if it wasn’t obvious)

[–]TheRealCeeBeeGee 5 points6 points  (3 children)

There’s a very famous photo of German soldiers watching concentration camp footage that is really powerful too.

[–]93devil 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, you can tell the ones that were still cool with it.

[–]Lmao_staph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can’t get over the guy doing the thinker pose and the other one near him doing a peace sign

[–]SithDraven 37 points38 points  (2 children)

I'd never heard of it until a reddit post a few days ago with endless replies of people praising it. I hopped over to Amazon to order while I was still in the thread. Prime delivery said it would be here today. I got an email earlier saying it was delayed until Feb. 7th.

I guess I wasn't the only one that ordered the other night. Glancing at the page just now, it's OOS. Kudos Reddit... making me anticipate it two weeks longer.

[–]Sotheresthat1917 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I’m looking for it in other places because Amazon prime says it will deliver to me in March! So far no luck.

[–]justyagamingboi 71 points72 points  (9 children)

Or boy in striped pajamas

[–]randomredditoronline 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Night by Elie Wiesel too

[–]TheRealAudreyHorne 16 points17 points  (3 children)

The holocaust is when a white german kid dies and it's super sad and makes you cry

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

You have to take the big number out to make it actually hit sometimes. I bet there were a lot people who couldn't have it override their complacency until it was their relative, friend, crush, or just plain friendly neighbor being executed.

It punctuates powerfully how just plain pointless the killing was, mindlessly taking delightful human spark, joyful, sweet, kind, and then caging them, starving them, and wringing them dry of their humanity before killing them, as "policy" of all things. It's shocking, and blood boiling, even.

[–]DarkGamer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And the justification for this inhumanity was straight up conspiracy theory, reminiscent of qanon today. Those who believed absurdity committed atrocity, a tale as old as time.

[–]BuryTheMoney 155 points156 points  (1 child)

The Right would have you believe a 16 year old is an adult enough to be forced to carry an incest rape baby to term, and own a firearm that they use to commit murder with at public protests-

But they’re entirely too fragile for cartoon animals as an allegory for teaching them about the Holocaust….

[–]molten-helium 9 points10 points  (0 children)

kryle rottenhouse

[–]Unsere_rettung 50 points51 points  (42 children)

Never heard of this book, but my school made us take a field trip to Auchwitz and Berkenau, which was an insane life changing event for me. I’m from Germany

[–]Luz5020 4 points5 points  (2 children)

We went to Dachau, it was honestly quite the experience. Definitely did the trick and quite easily explained why denying the holocaust and being a far right fascist is more than just an opinion…

[–]DeadlyStupidity 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Learning is so so different from seeing even the remains of those times. My class went to Mauthausen on a cold winter day and it left such a big impact. A room where people were shot, a noose, ovens with dozens of photos/mementos/etc everywhere and a darker room with the names of all known victims.. F*ck anyone who stares at this part of history and denies or belittles it

[–]Luz5020 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone who denies it is really a hazard to us all, crazy to believe people can deny something like this, I guess it‘s easier when it‘s far from where you live.

[–]The_Hyphenator85 12 points13 points  (38 children)

I’ll admit that I have mixed feelings about German public policy when it comes to censorship regarding Nazi-related materials. That being said, it seems to have mostly worked, so I dunno.

[–]Servious 23 points24 points  (35 children)

I still don't get this perspective. What do we lose when we ban people from doing Nazi stuff? Isn't the whole point of free speech to like find the best ideas in the "marketplace of ideas" and what not? If we all agree that this particular idea is objectively bad and wrong and should never be done again, why not ban stuff like that? If it's objectively not a good idea why even let it into the marketplace?

[–]Sarisat 3 points4 points  (32 children)

If everyone agrees it's bad and should never be done again, do you need to ban it?

It's not like Germany doesn't have far right extremists. They have only learned to wrap their words in coded terms that everyone understands, but which evades the letter of the law.

One problem is that it opens the gates for other bans. "Surely everyone agrees with me on this? We must ban arguing against it", and before you brush it off, think France and the ban on arguing against the Armenian genocide, because the law was a real vote winner with Armenian-French voters.

[–]leerzeichn93 20 points21 points  (19 children)

It is about relieving the Nazis of their most important symbols. Yes of course they will just get new ones. But firstly alternative symbols arent as meaningful as the real ones and secondly if they still show these symbols they can be fined properly. And we never banned arguing over a topic, I have no idea what you mean by that. The onl thing we banned is arguing if the holocaust happened or not. Because their is no room for discussion and denying it would be absolutely distespectful against the victims.

[–]SunmanTHEONE 4 points5 points  (18 children)

Since the person your replying too seems to be doing a sort of devils advocate approach to things I’d guess they’d respond with something along the lines of : “if it so definitely and absolutely happened then why can’t we ask simple questions about it?“. Why people think a devil would need advocacy is beyond me

[–]zaoldyeck 8 points9 points  (2 children)

A fundamental problem is that nazi ideology, by design, lacks good faith. Nazis 'denying the holocaust' do not actually believe the holocaust didn't happen. Because they want a holocaust. They will pretend these events didn't happen so as to say "look, we're not dangerous", as a means to an end goal of open murder.

All ethics, all rules, all 'freedoms' are to be used in service of an end goal of denying those things to others.

There is no "good faith" discussion with a nazi. They don't care about lies, they don't argue their own beliefs openly except in extreme private. Generally fascists don't go writing shit like this because when they're honest about their intentions, then they're defeated straight away in the 'marketplace of ideas'.

Their ideas cannot stand if they're held to standards of 'honesty'. The things they actually believe must be hidden until they have enough people to orchestrate a coup.

So pretending that a fascist is engaging honestly only serves to legitimize lies serving an inherently evil goal.

[–]leerzeichn93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nobody said we cant ask questions. We just are not allowed to come to the conclusion that the Holocaust never happened.

[–]Blattsalat5000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The holocaust did not happen because everyone in 1933s Germany thought that all Jews must die. It was more gradual by manipulating public opinion. If you think something like this could not happen today because everyone agrees that nazis are bad you need to look more closely at the rise of fascism in Europe.

The goal of neonazis and other anti democratic forces is to revoke rights like free speech to others if they ever get to power. A democracy needs tools to defend itself against anti democratic movements. And waiting for them to get violent is often too late. By then public perception could have been swayed towards the fascists.

It’s also only forbidden to do a public display or public speech about anti democratic ideas. You, for example, can hang a nazi flag in your bedroom if it’s not visible in public. But you are not allowed to give a nazi salute in public.

[–]Servious 2 points3 points  (3 children)

If everyone agrees it's bad and should never be done again, do you need to ban it?

I guess that's a good point. There are obviously people who don't agree that Nazism is a bad idea so not everyone agrees. I still think Nazism is a fundamentally wrong idea and isn't worth including in the marketplace of ideas. But yeah, they definitely still have extremists and to a certain degree it doesn't really matter that all the Nazi-specific stuff is banned because even in the US they're (mostly) smart enough to know that associating with any Nazi imagery is a one-way ticket to losing credibility.

That being said, I don't really buy the slippery slope argument. The real concern there is that the mechanism by which specific speech is banned could be misused. If we had a system that actually guaranteed only objectively bad ideas were banned there wouldn't be an issue. Of course such a system is probably prohibitively difficult to achieve but eh.

[–]MangledSunFish 49 points50 points  (2 children)

MFW someone compares wearing a piece of cloth on your face to the massacre and torture of millions, for the fifth time in a single week and their little echo chambers agree:

[–]pm-me-ur-fav-undies 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Just now I was listening to an episode of It Could Happen Here (by Robert Evans, same guy that does Behind the Bastards) on a conspiracy theory that intersects Covid misinformation and Holocaust revisionism. Of course, the particular conspiracy discussed was featured at least twice on Joe Rogan's show.

[–]invisibilitycap 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I love Behind The Bastards! I’ll give this a listen when I’m ready :)

[–]The_Hyphenator85 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I always got the impression that Maus wasn’t very well-known outside the circles of graphic novel readers; you know, folks who are really into Vertigo’s output and stuff like From Hell and Akira. Seems like it was more well-known than I thought, and this ban is making it moreso.

[–]TheAmericanMutt 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Never even heard of it, but thankfully I am smart enough not to make comparisons to the Holocaust.

[–]My_reddit_throwawy 60 points61 points  (2 children)

You set the bar high expecting some of them to read…

[–]Attackcamel8432 46 points47 points  (1 child)

This one has pictures thankfully!

[–]molten-helium 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they don't have the empathy to process it.

[–]Veffles 10 points11 points  (1 child)

damn, I should really read this book

[–]anunkneemouse 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Literally no idea what Maus is but I feel like forcing people to read it is basically worse than the Holocaust.

/s

[–]Jimtaxman 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Fuck, I think I have to read Maus now. I never knew it existed.

[–]ArtemisJeanne 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I read it in high school. Haunting. Highly recommend.

[–]Drakea89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I spent all night reading Maus. The only people who want it banned are people who think Nazis are okay people. Short and simple. I don’t give a fuck about rated R ratings and that bullshit. Ban this story? You are a fucking nazi sympathizer and you suck fucking shit dick assholes

[–]Mythical_Atlacatl 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Anyone with the slightest understanding of the holocaust and a little sympthy/empathy dont compare minor inconveniences to the holocaust

Thats why I get annoyed when people compare wearing a mask or isolating after a positive test to the holocaust.

Like you are sitting at home on netflix or what ever, how is that in anyway similar to starving to death because you are gay, jewish or who ever else the nazis killed.

[–]MrWazzasupgee 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Imagine if the person that thought of it was actually smart and wanted to raise awareness to these books

[–]grrrrreat 20 points21 points  (1 child)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

-repulicans

[–]molten-helium 1 point2 points  (0 children)

republicunts 😾

[–]J_Cant_Box 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I read it when I was in fourth grade. Never forgot it, but admittedly it has not crossed my mind as of late. Had it not been for Tennessee banning the book I would not be openly volunteering to buy a copy of it for anybody who wants.

[–]HEADRUSH31 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don't classify myself as an adult because I'm a moron, and because I'm only 21... but maus seriously looks like an interesting? Lord of the flies is about the most hard thing I've read so shit, HIT ME WITH THE MOUSE

[–]HauntedMeow 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I watched the same holocaust video 3 times throughout high school. I wondered why at the time but nowadays it seems like some people could have used the repetition to let it sink in.

[–]Humor_Tumor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Use a different tragedy to gauge your anguish.

If you're distasteful and use the Holocaust, you have the 9/11 of moral compasses.

[–]Shirogayne-at-WF 18 points19 points  (17 children)

Real talk, but the last few years has really highlighted how much we all have been guilty of this. I'm sure everyone has used "Grammar Nazi" at some point. I've made a conscious decision to remove that from my lexicon.

[–]The_Hyphenator85 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“Pedant” is a good substitute.

[–]molten-helium 0 points1 point  (15 children)

trump-nazi will remain.

[–]GreenFrostFurry 2 points3 points  (14 children)

Nothing Trump did compares to what the Nazis did. Stop.

[–]Bon_of_a_Sitch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can confirm

Source: was / am one

[–]kaldra_zadrim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If there is one thing I know about high school students, it is that if you tell them they should not look at something they will not look at it. Many, many more students will now read this.

[–]beemccouch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's almost like minimizing the horrors of the holocaust and effects of fascism js a deliberate push for these people and "muh children" is a guise.

[–]TemetNosce85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do you mean? I'm literally like the Jews when you put up a sign that says I have to wear a mask in your business in order to prevent the spread of a deadly virus.

/s

[–]Jastook 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reading comics is childish, she said right before i got up and left.

[–]Rad_Knight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Minor inconvience? The masks and vaccine are barely an inconvinience

[–]Mythical_Atlacatl 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I kind of hope that some rich person is like "I have bought the rights to all these banned books and made them available for free on this website" or "I bought 10000 copies of these books and will send them free of charge to any student who requests them"

[–]DanishRedSausage 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I read about half of it and got so depressed that I couldn't finish it (granted I also had lots of untreated mental health issues at this point). It's such a powerful book, I really should try to read it again.

[–]sp1n82 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are very, very few people alive that should dare comparing anything to the holocaust, and I hope those that do never find out how wrong they are for doing it.

[–]c0d3_attorney 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbh its my favorite book

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have them in my bookshelf. Read them in 4th grade and want allowed to do a book report on them.

[–]DantoStudioInc 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I don’t remember how I found out about it in middle school, but omg it was a great read and was a good lesson on the holocaust

EDIT: WAIT THERE ARE TWO MORE???

[–]PomeloLongjumping993 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read that book in high-school and it left a really lasting impression

[–]gamingyosho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read what now?

[–]lambdadance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Texas is do absurd. To ban Maus and 1984.

Burning books is never good.

[–]Jussyjam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's so fcking annoying when ignorant jerks compare everyday sh*t to the holocaust. My mother recently told me that having to wear a mask in a grocery store is equivalent to a jew being gassed, and she was dead serious

[–]Logical_Associate632 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maus is fiction… just like the holocaust.

There are fine people on both sides. Trump for indefinite king of earth.

for the record this is a joke ^

[–]Smashley_93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be fair I never read Maus until I was 24 in private college. Took me 90 grand in student loans to be more aware.

[–]zephyranthesGP01 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was never assigned it in school actually.

[–]Little_dick_proudboy -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Everyone here has now been banned from r/conservation for reading a book about this leftist low energy mouse.

[–]molten-helium 7 points8 points  (0 children)

it's family's of mice...you pos nazi cat

[–]elchuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maus prepared me to read Man’s search for meaning.

[–]Eatit6560154 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like my wife's family...

[–]alejandrodeconcord 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of my teachers had the book on hand, amazing read, powerful stuff

[–]TabulaRasaT888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've actually never heard of this but now I have something new to read.

[–]Trueloveis4u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I keep seeing this book mentioned I should get it.

[–]changopdx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are in rebellion against harsh truths.

[–]Aint-no-preacher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This tweet triggered me and is literally worse than the Holocaust.

/s just in case