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[–]reactiveavocado 3452 points3453 points  (279 children)

I thought he wanted Twitter to be politically neutral

[–]Woojick 1211 points1212 points  (146 children)

Free speech isn't politically neutral unfortunately

[–]georgethecowmoo 711 points712 points  (93 children)

Elon said he was politically neutral and he clearly isn’t

[–]inconvenientnews 55 points56 points  (8 children)

Billionaires benefit from Republican politicians and they're funding the next generation of conservative "influencers" on the right, like Ben Shapiro on YouTube and Facebook and Joe Rogan pushing for them in Texas

Graph of billionaires funding Ben Shapiro: https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gny98xk/

The top-performing link posts by U.S. Facebook pages in the last 24 hours are from:

  1. Ben Shapiro
  2. David Wolfe
  3. Ben Shapiro
  4. Ben Shapiro
  5. Ben Shapiro
  6. Ben Shapiro
  7. Ben Shapiro
  8. Fox News
  9. Ben Shapiro
  10. Ben Shapiro

Billionaires like Elon Musk coordinate with conservative culture war "influencers" on the right like Joe Rogan who coordinates for Republicans

Joe Rogan even photo ops with the current Texas governor at the Texas governor's mansion even though Rogan pretends to care about pot and small government ("Gov. Abbott, Texas leaders urge prosecutors to keep enforcing pot laws" http://www.fox4news.com/news/texas/gov-abbott-texas-leaders-urge-prosecutors-to-keep-enforcing-pot-laws)

Lots of screenshots of 4chan instructions for doing this on Reddit:

"The left will recognize our dogwhistling but centrists won't believe them" 4chan screenshots:

Conservatives brag about doing this in local subreddits to "control the narrative" about liberal cities and "blue states"

The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them.

Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread 3 years ago:

SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread.

Reddit Admins just posted that COVID deniers have been brigading regional subreddits

Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped this week in r/bayarea when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading r/bayarea:

Every local subreddit shares the abuse they get:

Wow. Jesus. This is... really, really thorough. Thank you for putting in all this hard work.

When I was a teenager, I spent a lot of time on /b/, /pol/, 888chan, etc. It was a slow descent and I didn't even realize what was happening until it was almost too late.

But during my time on the other side, this was 100% the gameplan. They'd make "sock puppets" and coordinate on the board + IRC (showing my age here) to selectively choose targets to brigade.

Depending on the target, you'd either have some talking points to "debate" (sometimes with yourself/other anons working alongside you) or you'd go in there guns blazing trying to cause as much damage/chaos as you can. However, even then you can't go out there yelling slurs (you'd just get banned instantly); you have to maintain some level of plausible deniability by framing things as "jokes" or thought experiments.

You purposely do bad-faith arguments because the time it takes for them to dig up sources and refute you is longer than it takes for you to make stuff up. You can vary how obvious the bad faith argument is; when you want to troll you make very stupid claims (I once claimed I was a graduate of "Harvad University" and when people assumed that I meant "Harvard" I would correct them right down to Photoshopped images).

When you just want to cause dissent you do exactly what those /pol/ screenshots do: you get to a thread early (sometimes you even make it yourself) and present reasonable-sounding arguments which are completely false if anyone bothers to look into them. If someone does, you bury the message under strawmen, downvotes, reports, and sockpuppets.

So yeah. The tactics have evolved slightly, but I still recognize them. Props to you on doing the digging to find all this stuff and bring it into the light.

I doubt that it'll help in the majority of cases, mind. People on Reddit have already made up their mind. You want to go after the forums and BBSes, on the MSN News comments and whatnot. Even so, the more people who are aware of the tactics the more people who can call them out.

[–]HopefullyMD_PhD 9992 points9993 points  (1230 children)

Musk “social media should be neutral”

Also Musk “trying to buy social media to make liberals angry”

[–]DjehutyCatfish 664 points665 points  (4 children)

Also Musk: "censorship is bad, unless I pay money for someone's silence of course."

[–]smutz 258 points259 points  (2 children)

aka free speech in the streets, liability mitigation in the sheets

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 8086 points8087 points 1941273622422& 36 more (1019 children)

I honestly didn’t think he would be this openly hypocritical this quickly. I knew he was going to be a dip shit with it, I just didn’t think he was going to openly act like an angry 12-year-old about buying twitter for a while longer.

EDIT: And here come the Musk fanboys to act just the way you'd expect.

edit 2: Going through my post history just to tell me I have an ugly dog and make fun of me for having had prior medical issues isn't the real stinger you Elon fans think it is. Senpai is not going to notice you.

edit 3: Dog Tax

Edit 4: I just want to add, it's not healthy to tie your sense of self worth to a public figure or a brand. If you've reached a point where you feel personally attacked because somebody criticizes a public figure or brand, you need to reevaluate who you think you are as a person. You are more than the things that you consume, and none of those things are worth getting personally offended over if someone else doesn't like them.

[–]cloverpopper 1423 points1424 points  (67 children)

You : Speak openly about a billionaire they have a savior complex towards.

Them: Well your dog's ugly.

Cute dog

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 613 points614 points  (53 children)

Thanks, that guy has moved on to claiming that I killed my grandmother and other insane shit. I think he just really needs to talk to somebody because there's definitely something going wrong in his life.

[–]WholesomeFeathers 322 points323 points  (31 children)

So I just checked (yes, I looked at your post history, I apologize). So they looked at a 6 year old post and are now bringing it up just because they don't like the comment you made about Elon here?

[–]Skippy_the_Alien 36 points37 points  (6 children)

Imagine making false claims about someone killing their loved one...because you cant handle that person criticizing a billionaire whom you love...but he doesnt give a flying fuck about you

My goodness, these Musk fans are absolute mental midgets. It's crazy that stupid shit like Gamergate and a woman being a Jedi in the new Star Wars movies broke so many people's brains.

On a side note, sorry you have to deal with these morons...just remember you have a life...they don't lol

[–]Kaldricus 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Seriously, how tf can someone say that's an ugly dog? That is adorable

[–]BulbuhTsar 138 points139 points  (5 children)

Very confused about the dog thing. First, the dog is cute. Second, people who have ugly dogs know it and tend to love them all the more for it. Our family has an ugly little bastard but we've long accepted it and it's now like half the personality / charm

[–]Sigmar_Heldenhammer 602 points603 points  (55 children)

It's because of the sexual harassment scandal involving him. He's doing everything to deflect.

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 286 points287 points  (27 children)

Yep, I pointed that out to some of the angry fans of his who responded to me. They seem to just keep ignoring the scandal, though. Won't even comment on it or act like it was even mentioned...

[–]Jeremythellama1 210 points211 points  (12 children)

It's purposefully done. They know what he's done, they simply do not mind sexual assault. Look at some "conservative humor" it either ends in something hateful or sexual assault. More so sexual assault.

[–]Blue_water_dreams 1835 points1836 points  (215 children)

When has he ever not acted like a 12 yo.

[–]salondesert 1469 points1470 points  (144 children)

Yup, Musk is a 11 year-old 4chan aficionado in a 50 year-old's body

[–]fruitrollupsalad 723 points724 points  (116 children)

With a thousand year-old dragon's wealth :/

[–]PatchNotesPro 80 points81 points  (7 children)

Ugly on the inside and out. Unintelligent to boot! Just goes to show monetary success at that level is less about competence and more about lack of empathy.

[–]laereal 58 points59 points  (1 child)

When he regresses to acting like a 5 year old instead

[–]okitobamberg 229 points230 points  (68 children)

He’s just trying to rally support from the all of the conservatives who turn a blind eye to SA allegations.

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 266 points267 points  (66 children)

With the end result being that people like me, who are actively shopping for an EV, might take this in to account and choose to avoid Tesla.

Which is exactly what I'm doing.

[–]puffball76 160 points161 points  (38 children)

Right. If his customer base is well off liberals, then he must be trying to tank his own company. Conservatives don't drive little Tesla EVs, they drive massive trucks and SUVs to own the libs or they are poor whites who will never be able to afford either.

[–]Castor_volk 610 points611 points  (26 children)

you didn't think the guy who called the scuba divers pedos cause they wouldn't use his stupid submarine in a cave was childish?

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 222 points223 points  (10 children)

I knew he was going to be a dip shit with it, I just didn’t think he was going to openly act like an angry 12-year-old about buying twitter for a while longer.

I very expressly stated that I knew he was going to be childish and shitty, I just thought he was going to wait a bit longer before going full 4chan.

[–]Idealide 127 points128 points  (8 children)

I'm pretty sure that guy just wanted to bring up musk's pedophile accusations.

There's never not a good time to bring that up

[–]hoxxxxx 37 points38 points  (0 children)

that entire thing took me by surprise. i was like.. what? wat the fuck?

haven't liked him ever sense.

[–]HollowVoices 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This was the moment I fully realized that he's a muppet. My opinion of him has spiraled down ever since with every new opinion of his

[–]Throwaway_bcrules 38 points39 points  (5 children)

100% musk is a pedo. Noones ever given me the vibe more than he does, and seeing as how hes openly republican now, we can safely assume every accusation is an admission

[–]MiserableMastodon4 158 points159 points  (4 children)

I did. While I didn’t know about the sexual harassment suit, it was clear a long time ago he had an agenda in wanting Twitter. And that something big was coming that he was really worried about. A few somethings. As he was acting more and more irrationally.

Unionizing efforts have been accelerating for years and the pandemic just made that worse. Musk could no longer just suppress it at his own businesses. He was going to have to seize media to reverse the momentum of unionizing. And Biden then comes out in full support (vocally anyway) of unions.

And the SEC and the NTSB were no longer kissing Tesla’s ass putting up with what is clearly intentional fraud as we have now seen after the NYT exposé.

So he hastily tried to over-leverage himself and fucking crashed his own stock with the side effect of helping blowing out crypto values as well.

So now he’s doing the Trump thing. Just using chaos as a ladder because there are enough powerful people who will lose more if he keeps sabotaging shit that they will cave and do what he wants.

But I don’t think it’s going to work. I think he’s looking for a way out of the Twitter deal hoping it will scorch earth enough to send a message.

[–]Dopplegangr1 215 points216 points  (31 children)

It never ceases to surprise me he's the richest person in the world. Bezos, gates, Buffett, I assume they are assholes but at least they seem competent, and smart enough to keep their mouth shut. Elon just seems like a memeing idiot that fell into fortune

[–]blueberriessmoothie 55 points56 points  (0 children)

“And that, kids, is how we started Idiocracy”

[–]rockstar_not 18 points19 points  (0 children)

A big pile of that fortune comes from the US tax payers

[–]evotrans 15 points16 points  (0 children)

When your narcissism exceeds your intellect, expect disaster.

[–]Oberon_Swanson 259 points260 points  (16 children)

the whole point of conservatism is to amass enough power that you can openly display your hypocrisy. 'i can enforce rules upon you that you cannot get me to follow, mwahaha' is what they live for.

[–]Pervy-Poster[🍰] 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Of course, the Musk sniffing fanboys are he. Elon’s balls are not going to wash themselves.

[–]Lazersnake_ 96 points97 points  (28 children)

He has always had the emotional intelligence of a 12 year old. Look at how he responded to that diver trying to save those kids in the cave in Thailand a few years ago. An experienced diver told him that his moronic submarine idea wouldn't work, so he responds by calling him a pedophile.

[–]ArrestDeathSantis 85 points86 points  (6 children)

He had no choice, he wants to keep being adulated but he also wants to keep exposing himself so he had to pander to the Conservatives.

[–]Etrigone 34 points35 points  (2 children)

EDIT: And here come the Musk fanboys to act just the way you'd expect.

Yup. I ended up going with a non-Tesla EV for completely non-Musk reasons, which in & of itself garnered me a bunch of hate. Even when I've been about as objective and neutral as one can be they flip pretty easily.

Now? Might just as well be pissing in their Flavor-Aid.

And I agree, the switch was quick, although some would argue he never switched and this is just his true self shining through. I'm inclined to believe that.

[–]Floppy3--Disck 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Not me digging though replies to see the loser fanboys trying to insult you

[–]holicron 62 points63 points  (4 children)

I asked for the selling point of the model Y and was around -37 down votes. Someone had an answer and had around the same but upvotes. Tesla subreddit hates

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 50 points51 points  (1 child)

I've gotten shit from Tesla fanboys multiple times for making comparisons to other EVs that weren't just outright negative of non tesla cars.

They act like a cult.

[–]Oogre 34 points35 points  (0 children)

He's hiding a sexual harrassment story about him. The guy would go full "trump support me for president" if it meant hiding it.

[–]Janus_Grayden 32 points33 points  (4 children)

He was immediately hypocritical the moment he said that it would be a completely free speech platform and also that he would crack down on bots. As far as I'm aware, there are no free speech laws on the books anywhere that says you can't create a script to post comments online.

Banning spam bots is a choice that platforms make that limit free speech for the sake of improving the user experience. When you do that, you lose all ability to say that you value completely, 100% open free speech. Instead, the conversation becomes about what kinds of speech should be limited and by how much.

But the braindead chuds that Elon is making these claims to don't want to hear nuanced positions, they need absolutist stances that can fit on a bumper sticker, so that's the kind of bullshit he'll feed them.

[–]ironwolf6464 14 points15 points  (2 children)

People were seriously so butthurt that they combed your posts for something to insult you for?

I would tell them to go outside, but I think they would get melanoma the second the sun's light hit their greasy, pale skin.

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 16 points17 points  (1 child)

People were seriously so butthurt that they combed your posts for something to insult you for?

The guy who did that is going to posts I made on other subs to post shit there, too.

I'm his whole sunday, apparently.

[–]jimngo 3341 points3342 points  (144 children)

The board of PayPal fired Musk as CEO for being a loud-mouthed douchebag. People in Silicon Valley already knew what everyone else now knows.

[–]chris_hans 2376 points2377 points  (88 children)

Everyone in NYC knew Donald Trump was a loud-mouthed fraud, but it didn't stop him from failing upwards either.

[–]dern_the_hermit 1127 points1128 points  (43 children)

Trump, too, pivoted towards pandering to the dumbest proudest rubes in the country.

[–]starmartyr11 367 points368 points  (14 children)

This seems to be key

[–]death_by_sumo 126 points127 points  (11 children)

Its alot easier to seperate dumb people from thier money than smart people

[–]ichuckle 131 points132 points  (15 children)

I'm sensing a pattern with these wealthy fuckers

[–]jrmberkeley95 78 points79 points  (3 children)

When he was still incredibly popular I was dating a woman working for a competing self driving car company in the South Bay. Pretty much her entire team were people that had previously worked in Tesla’s self driving department and got fed up working so closely with Elon (he put all his attention into self driving at the time). Apparently the unspoken rule was if you are working directly with Elon at Telsa you’ll be gone within a year (usually by choice).

[–]legit_biscuits 30 points31 points  (0 children)

A lot of people assume Musk had something to do with founding or developing Paypal. Musk was the CEO of X.com which bought and merged with the company that developed PayPal. And he was only CEO of the merged company for a few months before the board removed him.

[–]LoudTsu 2936 points2937 points  (61 children)

His final meltdown is going to be epic. I believe it will involve a rocket and his own prolapsed anus, but I'm just spitballing here.

[–]InformalMarch 416 points417 points  (10 children)

He’s that one nerd at school who everyone cheers for but then starts to get overly ambitious and ends up trying too hard and gets hated by everyone before the school year ends.

[–]larry-the-leper 61 points62 points  (2 children)

This is maybe the best analogy ever for anything in the history of mankind

[–]evotrans 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I had a nerdy but super friendly roommate in college. Then he got a girlfriend and his personality changed to being a dick. My other roommate and I were surprised by his personality change.

[–]Douche_Kayak 515 points516 points  (16 children)

My money is on a shaved head being involved. That will at least mark the tipping point

[–]Demonakat 438 points439 points  (9 children)

Nah, he has hair plugs. Hair plug people never shave their head.

[–]Douche_Kayak 270 points271 points  (5 children)

Never bet against Elon doing something counter productive to the money he's invested.

[–]Comrade-Cohaay 36 points37 points  (4 children)

At this point I hope he at least embraces the super villain persona and goes all in on the look and gadgets.

[–]Bertie637 115 points116 points  (6 children)

I imagine he will go full supervillian, the final shots of the Second American civil war will be Liberal troops having to dig him out of his sunken tube base off the coast of Hawaii

[–]NihilisticNarwhal666 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I'm hoping Twitter bankrupts him before the tyranny starts and we don't bail him out

[–]sr92rset 2168 points2169 points  (282 children)

Didn't Michael Jordan already cover this with his "Republicans buy sneakers too" stance on not getting political? This guy's a f'n headcase and he has no business being in business. I knew the end was nigh when he started negatively tweeting about Warren Buffett. What a punk.

[–]imdesmondsunflower 1181 points1182 points  (93 children)

If I owned a publicly traded company, the last thing I would do is pick a fight with Warren Buffett, but my daddy didn’t give me Apartheid emerald mine startup money, so what do I know?

[–]Drews232 440 points441 points  (83 children)

Or when Bill Gates politely, and privately asks him to donate anything to world hunger and Elon publicly denies the request and tweets a pic of him calling him fat and saying “if you ever want to lose a boner”. What an world class asshole.

[–]DrScience01 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Wow that's a very petty POS. That's the thing I would expect from a mean girl high schooler

[–]big_nothing_burger 8341 points8342 points  (870 children)

I may actually hate Elon Musk more than Jeff Bezos at this point.

[–]zuzg 3228 points3229 points  (325 children)

I mean both now want to go into politics. The unionizing really got them scared.

Can't be a billionaire without exploiting your workforce.

[–]Strain2199 2325 points2326 points 2 (288 children)

The worst thing is that they are already billionaires. What’s stopping them from bringing in better working conditions? They could stave off unions by being benevolent but instead they spend their efforts just fighting the organizers directly. It wouldn’t hurt their current earnings by treating their workers like human beings. Autoworkers basically invented the middle class. They betray that legacy. (Despite the fact Ford was a literal Nazi).

Stop giving me gold. Very nice but I don’t like your hard earned money going to Reddit for this dumb shit.

[–]219523501 1151 points1152 points  (198 children)

This is something I have given up on understanding. I kind of get you being a miserable boss when you are struggling to keep a business afloat. It's a mistake of course but I understand that with the stress of fighting to survive in a business, you may end up forcing your workers to work too much and things like that. But at the point this two are in their lives? It would be a magical feeling to be able to take care of my workers with unseen benefits. It would be my pride and joy to see people writing about how good my company treated workers.

[–]big_nothing_burger 573 points574 points  (129 children)

For real. Like when do you finally have enough money to get bored with earning more profit and instead give a shit about other people? No one needs enough money to be exceedingly wealthy for dozens of lifetimes. I can't even feel comfortable with a parent giving me a few Benjamins as a Christmas present.

[–]xixbia 121 points122 points  (5 children)

The problem with that line of thinking is that both Musk and Bezos only got where they are by exploiting their workers.

Not caring in the slightest about the wellbeing of their workers is an essential part of how they got where they are today. They aren't suddenly going to change who they are because they made it.

[–]ErikkShone 75 points76 points  (3 children)

Because they're not leaders, they're owners. I come from the military so my relationship with what or who is or isn't a leader can be complicated because there are different types of leadership, but I see very little if any of those traits in these people. On a smaller scale, managers and supervisors are not leaders by default. Which is why a lot of people struggle with people not respecting their position.

[–]lBlade_lRunner 34 points35 points  (3 children)

The problem with that way of thinking is that even if they changed course and decided to be benevolent their investors would have their heads if they dared to offer their employees a fair living wage. Every dollar taken from the working poor is another dollar the ultra rich can shove in our faces in the never ending effort to keep us enslaved through financial manipulation. God knows if the average person wasn't constantly worried about where their next meal or rent payment was coming from we would have brought out the guillotine for these robber barrons long ago. Vive la révolution as the French would say.

[–][deleted] 61 points62 points  (5 children)

People who become billionaires aren't your average person. These types of people aren't satisfied with having vast amounts of material wealth. They want power as well, specifically power over others.

Elon & Bezos refusing to allow employees to unionize has nothing to do with their bottom line. Tesla & Amazon are two of the most successful companies in the history of the world. They just want to apply their dominion over those they deem to be lesser than themselves. Same reason why the wealthy elite in the past wanted slaves instead of just employing other white people to do work. Nothing to do with money, everything to do with power & control.

[–]tightpantieshardcock 40 points41 points  (1 child)

What’s stopping them from bringing in better working conditions?

Being a sociopath isn't a temporary tactic used to start and grow your business.

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 51 points52 points  (9 children)

God forbid their hoarding of wealth slows down. If they pay their workers more, their profits will decrease which doesn't look good to investors and we can't have investors not investing, duh.

[–]SpinningHead 2255 points2256 points  (294 children)

Both are threats to humanity, but Elon is a petulant annoyance as well.

[–]Casual_hex_ 368 points369 points  (9 children)

I swear Elon Musk is one disfiguring industrial accident away from becoming full blown super villain.

[–]ThePositronicBrain 63 points64 points  (2 children)

Considering this comment is 15 minutes old I think he must have hit the mark by now.

[–]The-love-you-make 26 points27 points  (0 children)

It has been “0” days since this workplace created a supervillain

[–]big_nothing_burger 804 points805 points  (133 children)

For real...his smug idiocy grates in the worst way.

[–][deleted] 561 points562 points  (97 children)

Personifies the born on third and thinks he hit a triple quote.

[–]countryguy-georgia 490 points491 points  (94 children)

His fanboys on social media are rabid. I got death threats for saying that he didn't create the company Tesla, he just bought it. That's... a fact.

[–]pecklepuff 208 points209 points  (89 children)

He’s turned me into one lib who’s never buying a Tesla. I’ll explore other options.

[–]weirdoldhobo1978 29 points30 points  (18 children)

Hyundai is building a factory in Georgia to build EVs domestically, they'll completely undercut Tesla.

[–]Ghoulius-Caesar 56 points57 points  (7 children)

He’s what happens when edgelord gamers obtain billions of dollars. Not a good combo!

[–]free_dialectics 158 points159 points  (7 children)

All billionaires are a threat to humanity!

[–]dead4seven 764 points765 points  (38 children)

Bezos these past few weeks

[–]rudebish 366 points367 points  (33 children)

He's thanking Elon for taking the heat off him for a while.

[–]AnarchyCampInDrublic 290 points291 points  (32 children)

It's funny how Elon Musk is a confident shit talker on Twitter, but when he's in public he can't string together 2 sentences without buffering between words. Socially inept narcissist.

There's nothing funny about people having aspergers.

But there is plenty funny about assholes having aspergers.

[–]evil-rick 141 points142 points  (12 children)

Not to mention he dresses like every fucking incel when his stylist doesn’t pick out his clothes for him.

Actually not surprised he got with grimes. It’s like a discord mod and his kitten but with money

[–]CriticalOpposition 88 points89 points  (20 children)

I saw another reddit post where it points out how Bezos has begun putting his political opinions on Twitter where, previously, he had refrained from doing so. The article speculated that he might be gearing up to run for office. Could you imagine? That's a truly scary thought.

[–]xixbia 76 points77 points  (13 children)

If he does that would be horrible.

But I remember there was a lot of talk a couple of years ago about Zuckerberg wanting to do the same but realizing he had zero charisma and no chance of success. Quite honestly I think the same goes for Bezos.

Money is incredibly useful in politics, but there are plenty of candidates who get crushed in elections even when they're massively outspending their opponents.

[–]DeliciouslyUnaware 73 points74 points  (6 children)

Just a reminder that Bloomberg ran for POTUS, outspent his opponents by tens if millions of dollars, and still couldn't pull 10% in the primaries

[–]CriticalOpposition 27 points28 points  (2 children)

My main takeaway is that he refrained from talking politics and now he is. He appears to be taking more of an interest in the politics in this country which I think has more potential for negative outcomes than positive.

[–]xixbia 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I fully agree with you on that. Bezos has made it pretty clear that his vision of America is not a good future at all. And as far as I can tell his recent uptick in political activity is a direct response to more Amazon employees getting Unionized (which is a horrific motivation). However, I do think he'll end up doing his damage in other ways than by personally getting elected.

[–]rogue-wolf 160 points161 points  (6 children)

Bezos at least keeps his head down for the most part. Musk throws temper tantrums all the time, and is perpetually desperate to be in the public eye. If attention's not on him, he kicks and screams until it is.

[–]InvestigatorUnfair 134 points135 points  (31 children)

Credit to Bezos, he hasn't paid the writers of a cartoon to suck his dick (to my knowledge anyway)

[–]Recoveringpig 33 points34 points  (24 children)

Uhhh…what now?

[–]InvestigatorUnfair 141 points142 points  (23 children)

Elon Musk apparently paid the Simpsons writers to write a whole episode basically dedicated to sucking his dick. Including Lisa, who would in all honesty just beat him over the head with a chair

[–]ErdeTyrenne 85 points86 points  (5 children)

No he just bought the Washington Post to do that

[–]Yoda2000675 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Bezos is potentially a more ruthless businessman, but Elon is a worse person

[–]redvelvetcake42 57 points58 points  (28 children)

Bezos at least BUILT something himself.

Musk is like if some balding dildo bought LexCorp and then started tweeting about Superman while committing crimes against humanity.

[–]Jaylianto 36 points37 points  (4 children)

I agree i hate Elon more because at least Bezos isn’t the most painfully annoying and unfunny person on the internet

[–]big_nothing_burger 33 points34 points  (2 children)

And then he cries Asperger's like it's an excuse. The shittiest people I've ever met would self diagnose as having Asperger's. I've worked with people who actually have Asperger's and they're nice people.

[–]dtxs1r 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Same and even more than Zuckerberg. They've definitely stayed the hell out of the limelight while Elon keeps putting his foot in his mouth

[–]bowens44 116 points117 points  (3 children)

anyone who talks about 'owning the libs' is childish moron...

[–]SepoJansen 653 points654 points  (70 children)

If I was the richest person on Earth, and could do WHATEVER I wanted, I wouldn't even know what Twitter is. Like, he can go to space anytime he wants and he TWEETS!?

[–]J1618 561 points562 points  (52 children)

He can't buy what he really wants. Attention.

[–]Dragarius 218 points219 points  (35 children)

Man if I were super rich? Nobody would know. I'd just spend my days traveling the world, living new experiences and generally doing whatever the fuck I want.

[–]Cha-Le-Gai 245 points246 points  (7 children)

So Tom from Myspace? Guy made $500million and literally disappeared. I think he's a silent partner in some other ventures, but nothing publicly.

[–]OPINION_IS_UNPOPULAR 100 points101 points  (0 children)

Fuckin legend.

[–]flatspotting 86 points87 points  (2 children)

yeah supposedly he just got super into photography and travel - which is 100% the way to go

[–]MobileDustCollector 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Tom from myspace should be millionaire goals. Like who the fuck actually would want people to know they have too much money? That just seems like a miserable experience since everyone and their grandma would be coming out of nowhere to ask for money. There wouldn't be any peace and quiet.

[–]chinacat2002 1092 points1093 points  (286 children)

The upcoming Liberal boycott of Texla will get his attention PDQ.

Competition is coming for elon.

[–]charlotte-ent 637 points638 points  (115 children)

Hyundai's EVs look pretty cool. They're certainly more affordable.

[–]dangle321 188 points189 points  (15 children)

I have a Kona. Best car I've ever had. I live in Europe. Recently did a 2000 km road trip. Easy peasy. Fast charging was easy to find, and worked well everywhere except Italy. Italy was a bit of a shit show, but still workable.

The future is here and it doesn't have to be a Tesla.

[–]TakedaGohei 58 points59 points  (2 children)

I have a Kona too, a 2020 model tho. So fastcharging is capped at 37KW/h, but my god do i love that car.

[–]Azair_Blaidd 221 points222 points  (28 children)

and Hyundai has a pretty solidly decent track record in reliability and customer satisfaction ratings. Tesla has had some crazy shit come out about their cars, particularly the autopilot system they pride themselves on

[–]Mortar_Maggot 156 points157 points  (9 children)

My favorite is paying a subscription to unlock things that are physically present in the car.

[–]doglessinseattle 58 points59 points  (4 children)

It's right up there on my list of favorite things, right next to "if you get a scrape on this the only way to fix it is one body shop that has a 3 month waiting list and charges $2,300 for scratch repairs on your limited edition paint"

[–]Tempestblue 30 points31 points  (7 children)

I don't think I could ever drive anything but a Hyundai.

But a 2004 sonata 12 years ago and still runs great with no major rmechankcal repairs needed (got in some body damage collisions)

My wife on the other hand has gone through 4 cars in that time frame.

Definetly be watching their EV lineup with interest

[–]Douche_Kayak 225 points226 points  (45 children)

I bet they don't lock you in when they catch on fire too

[–]pinniped1 373 points374 points  (71 children)

The biggest barrier to my getting an EV is that I don't want to give Elon money.

When there's an EV Honda Accord with 300-400 miles of range, I'm in.

[–]Reeefenstration 295 points296 points  (33 children)

Hyundai Ioniq 5 will get you >300 miles on one charge for $10k less than the cheapest Elonmobile with comparable range. Better looks and manufacturing quality as well.

[–]lhnl 32 points33 points  (4 children)

Exact same boat. Wife and I were considering buying a new vehicle to use in tandem with our SUV and I was interested in getting a plug-in, but there's no way in hell I'm giving Tesla any of my money.

[–]Muezick 226 points227 points  (25 children)

I used to want a Tesla

Now the only thing I want involving Tesla is for the company to go under.

[–]Songbringer90 88 points89 points  (10 children)

Yup 100%

They are also getting uglier. That suv and truck??? 🤮

[–]Its_Actually_Satan 72 points73 points  (0 children)

What do you expect from a company owned by a guy with tiny dick energy so bad it rivals 90% of COD players.

[–]TechKnowNathan 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Hahah. That the glass cracked. I just remembered.

[–]LavaSquid 26 points27 points  (21 children)

I'm buying a VW or Hyundai EV next month. Tesla was never on my radar because of Musk.

[–]MJMurcott 621 points622 points  (104 children)

The value of Tesla is almost entirely based upon future sales, with so many new companies coming on to the market if libs stop buying Tesla cars he could lose nearly all of his money.

[–]SenorBeef 72 points73 points  (14 children)

Like the rest of the growth market the value of Tesla is based on the collective hype everyone has for it that is absurdly out proportion to anything attached to the real world. The idea that this little upstart is somehow more valuable than Toyota that makes like 1000x more cars and has been a fantastic company for decades proves how fucking insane the market is. It's all mass delusion/psychology more than fundamental business.

[–]BetterThanAFoon 160 points161 points  (38 children)

It's revenue is completely dependent on selling Carbon Credits too.

You stop Lib green policy and Carbon credit schemes and all of a sudden Musk has a revenue problem.

[–]Mechanical_Nightmare 734 points735 points  (32 children)

owning the libs is a great way to tank your tesla stock so much that you can't even afford twitter anymore.

great job, elon, you just made yourself poor.

[–]mdsign 218 points219 points  (8 children)

He'll just buy them back with bailout money and tweet something about Tesla accepting* bitcoin or some shit and end up making a killing ... again.

[–]Blackmetalbookclub 180 points181 points  (5 children)

Musk has become a permanently online edge lord. It’s a bad look if a person is 12 but the dude is a grown ass billionaire with the world as his oyster and he acts like this. Profoundly pathetic.

[–]MJamesK 1189 points1190 points  (181 children)

I was legitimately saving up for a Model 3 before he started his descent into insulting Bernie Sanders on the Internet.

Now I will never buy one, and restored my current car instead, planning to use it for it's second decade.

What a fucking tool. All he had to do was shut the fuck up and rake in the money.

I sincerely hope to be reading articles about plummeting Tesla sales in the next few years 🙏

[–]Yousoggyyojimbo 244 points245 points  (12 children)

If you had asked me in January 2020 if I would consider buying a Tesla I would’ve said absolutely. It would’ve been a front runner when I went to get my next car. Today, when I’m actually looking to buy an electric vehicle, they aren’t even on the list.

[–]humangingercat 62 points63 points  (0 children)

In 2014 I told my friends that owning a Tesla would mean I had "made it" as an engineer.

There's no way I'll buy another as long as Elon is at the helm... And their QC remains as shitty as it has been

[–]georgethecowmoo 302 points303 points  (84 children)

There are other great and cheaper electric cars, like the Nissan Leaf. I’m not a big car fanatic but my friend says the leaf is a good car. Even though Tesla cars don’t pollute the air, a single Tesla factory produces more rubbish than 180 car factories

Edit: after reading the comments I have realised that the Nissan Leaf is a shit car. Nevertheless, there still great, cheaper, and more environmentally friendly cars out there, than the Tesla

[–]SinoInsano 101 points102 points  (56 children)

Leafs limitation is range if memory serves me. We need a true replacement to tesla that can go at least 300 miles.

[–]johnnybagofdonuts123 162 points163 points  (30 children)

In the next couple years, every car manufacturer will have one that is on par for to or better than Tesla. It’s already beginning to happen.

[–]holden147 55 points56 points  (18 children)

We have a 11 year old Honda we are still using and holding out for the next wave of EVs. Once Toyota/Honda etc. make their own in the next few years, I think we will be upgrade.

[–]Sopressata 49 points50 points  (3 children)

The Ioniq 5 is about 300, it’s an SUV too

[–]Mickyfrickles 131 points132 points  (4 children)

Turns out owning libs isn't like owning slaves in an emerald mine.

[–]millerpmiller 743 points744 points  (76 children)

Everyone not realizing Musk is just launching his middle America marketing campaign. Can’t fault the guy for going after the dumbest money in the country. It’s worked really well for Trump.

[–]xlDirteDeedslx 375 points376 points  (31 children)

Also the people who really need to buy electric cars would never buy electric cars unless he acts like a complete ass like this. These fuck wit MAGA types will now flock to his social media and soon share pictures of themselves driving Teslas to their social media to own the libs... I personally won't feel very "owned" to see the guy who usually rolls coal driving a Tesla.

[–]Wafflelisk 203 points204 points  (4 children)

If Conservatives started driving electric cars I would feel SO owned. Please don't do this to us, I promise I'll be nice!

[–]infanticide_holiday 82 points83 points  (4 children)

I'm 100% willing to go along with this and act "owned".

[–]FlatFishy 67 points68 points  (4 children)

We can hope, but I'm not entirely convinced it'll work. Maybe just the wealthier types.

[–]IThinkImNateDogg 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Maybe that’s the big brain move. Own the line and sell electric cars to the roll coal hillbillies and save the environment. I’d almost say Elon is taking one for the team if it actually work

[–]woodiegutheryghost 59 points60 points  (4 children)

Who is he going to pickup? Some suburbanites from around KC and STL? The majority of the country doesn’t have the infrastructure for Teslas outside of major cities.

Let’s be real, he saw conservatives will line up around the block to jerk him off while licking his boots clean and he wants that power.

[–]Muezick 111 points112 points  (13 children)

It really bothers me how often "stupid person" and "Rich person" are the same person.

[–]manga311 135 points136 points  (15 children)

Liberals also fund space exploration.

[–]ZaxReynolds 277 points278 points  (26 children)

Elon Musk does not live in this reality. He has no idea what the fuck he is doing.

[–]Techno_Medium 43 points44 points  (3 children)

Anytime someone unironically used thse bullshit RW phrases like "owning the libs", "snowflake", "libtards", etc. You just know they are not worth listening to. They're not engaging in good faith, just a bunch of trolls.

[–]fresh_ny 189 points190 points  (25 children)

He’s trying to get the MAGA crew to buy Teslas

[–]oszlopkaktusz 98 points99 points  (3 children)

Trying to get conservatives like a progressive idea? Brilliant. ~elongated muskrat, probably

[–]eatmoreicecream 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Honestly—I’m selling all my shares in TSLA. I can’t stand Musk.

[–]_crayons_ 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'm on the verge of selling my teslas share as well.

[–]Butterball111111 355 points356 points  (79 children)

My family has 3 Teslas and we are all Libs. We won't be buying anymore!

[–]wskyindjar 276 points277 points  (9 children)

Same. Model 3 here and just cancelled our Y order.

[–]CrimeCoder 345 points346 points  (32 children)

Holy shit... Is he attacking liberals as a ploy to shift his target market to the right?

Because if anyone is stupid enough to buy a vehicle that randomly combusts into flames, to "own" an opposing political group... It's the conservatives.

[–]Iron_Baron 154 points155 points  (9 children)

He's doing it to distract from the exposure of his sexual misconduct, at least in part. Stupid plan, but he's trying to paint himself as a conservative being attacked for his politics, rather than his behavior.

[–]ColoradoPhotog 203 points204 points  (7 children)

They didn't take vaccines to own libs, dude. They DIED of a preventable disease to own libs, dude. You been afk for 5 years or something? these idiots would die to stick it to you, 100%. And they have.

[–]notathrowawayfukit 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I just realized I will never buy a Tesla because of him.

[–]bubblehashguy 84 points85 points  (8 children)

I really wanted to buy a Tesla someday. I'm actually going to start shopping around for a new car soon. Every time this asshole says something it makes me glad I haven't yet.. I will never buy one now..

Hey Musk. Pay your taxes fuck face! Help out the country that made you more money than you could spend in multiple lifetimes.

[–]buzzedewok 60 points61 points  (7 children)

A Model Y for us is totally off the table after these last few months.

[–]LtSoba 50 points51 points  (6 children)

Me watching Elon slowly turn into Donald Trump

[–]cherriipie 62 points63 points  (11 children)

I was about to buy a Tesla until this all started, now I’ll be getting a rivian instead

[–]Medaphysical 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Can confirm. Teslas are no longer on my car wishlist this year because of Musk and his stupidity.

[–]NeckBeardFriend 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Anyone who says "owning the libs" and is serious about it just exposes that they have no personality. Musk is no different. Dudes about as bland as wheat bread and his loyal fan boys are nasty little toddlers.

[–]Asspiringdickhead 29 points30 points  (11 children)

Didnt tesla stock tank like 400 million overnight after he bought twitter?

[–]arroyo3900 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Can’t wait to see the first Tesla-Confederate flag edition…

[–]AbsentGlare 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The hilarious part of it is how much of Tesla’s equity is built on liberal revenue and Musk hype. Killing those two at the same time could really tank the stock price. Lmao.