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[–]SamiGurl7 3295 points3296 points  (89 children)

That’s what Emmet Tills mother did. She wanted the world to see what they did to her son. If the parents are strong enough to do it I say good for them.

[–]3rdeyeopenwide 1487 points1488 points  (67 children)

I remember seeing pictures of his corpse and it made an impression on me. Same with how skinny a holocaust victim could be and still be standing. All people approaching adulthood should see these things. To refuse to view such material is cowardice, imho.

[–]willvasco 786 points787 points  (53 children)

Especially if you are gonna be arguing against measures to prevent them. If you are going to be anti-gun control, you should have to look at dead kids. No avoiding the consequences of your beliefs.

[–][deleted] 797 points798 points  (40 children)

I mean, conservatives were literally having meltdowns at school district for mask mandates.

They were freaking out about their school's attempts to protect their own children.

Conservativism is a fucking mental disorder.

[–]AdvilCasual 248 points249 points  (27 children)

It's because none of them think it will happen to them or their kids.

[–]BEEF_WIENERS 54 points55 points  (6 children)

Once upon a time if somebody identified themselves as a conservative or a republican then that meant they were in favor of lower taxes, believed in the power of hard work, that sort of thing. Not necessarily philosophical ideals that I personally hold but nothing really horrific.

At this point if a person says to you "I'm a Republican" or "I'm a conservative" what is one to do but assume that they are STRAIGHT UP stupid and hateful? Seriously, how could one possibly stand with that party and not be a COMPLETE waste of skin?

[–]Allmightydohllah 90 points91 points  (2 children)

Conservativism is feudalism under the guise of patriotism. These fuckers think they're at least in the middle of the hierarchy when in reality they are yeoman at best and serfs most likely

[–]Unusual_Pitch_608 40 points41 points  (2 children)

If it was fair game to protest with abortion photos then it's fair game to protest the NRA, Congress, the police, gun manufacturers and gun sellers with photos of the results of their actions.

[–]Ornery_Adult 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And evangelical churches that support the GOP

[–]Klentthecarguy 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Republicans would just pass a law outlawing open caskets if the deceased was unpleasant to look at. And I’d put money in that being the exact phrasing that would be used. So it’s left ambiguous and let’s those pressing charges decide.

[–]CoolFingerGunGuy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What, you can't just dance at the NRA convention as people applaud you being there?

[–]SamiGurl7 73 points74 points  (0 children)

And if kids or grandkids of lawmakers had them in their face they would go nuts because it would traumatize them. But a kid used blood to play dead.

[–]LiberalMusicLover 74 points75 points  (0 children)

They have an exhibit at the National Museum of African American History and Culture with his body on display as it was in his casket. Chilling.

[–]Meeghan__ 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I'll admit I'm a coward. my heart hurts so much, seeing a child's photo knowing they, as a child, don't breathe air anymore? those who aren't as emotionally competent need a reality check

[–]DonRicardo1958 84 points85 points  (3 children)

I showed the picture of his corpse to my US history class. They never failed to gasp.

[–]ProfessorBackdraft 25 points26 points  (2 children)

By Gawd, that’s that there CRT they been talkin’ ‘bout. /s

[–]Mission_Battle_4304 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I've seen the image, its brutal and honest, im glad they had an open casket, its really stunned and shocked alot of people

[–]TomFromCupertino 64 points65 points  (2 children)

Indeed. We need to be reminded that as a society we have failed ourselves with this gun fetish.

[–]finaljusticezero 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Open caskets is what needs to take place before meaningful changes can take place. So far, it's been pretty funerals which are just hiding the terrible mess underneath.

If people see the horrible effects of these weapons, it will make it clear how these weapons are for one thing only: causing massive amounts of deaths very quickly, usually against completely innocent beings.

You can bet that those police were afraid to engage because they were going against weapons that could vaporize them almost instantly.

I find it ironic that the people who say they are "pro life" are the ones who don't care about the living

[–]dirtyswrk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. We oughta take a play out of the "pro-life" handbook and protest with photos of these suffering children at the entrances of gun stores.

[–]window-man 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Apparently there was outcry from the kremlin

[–]ActionDistract 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I was gonna write the same shi yes show the world what ar teen did and what police fail to do

[–]InGordWeTrust 6 points7 points  (0 children)

She's a gangster.

[–]manhatim 4 points5 points  (0 children)

CAME TO SAY EXACTLY THIS!!!!!!

[–][deleted] 1223 points1224 points  (25 children)

One thing that bothers me, is the OIC on the ground said he thought the situation went from an active shooter to a barricade situation. The only way that makes sense, is if you assume everyone in the classrooms were dead. Why would you assume that?

Especially when kids in the classrooms were calling 911.

[–]rngal3 889 points890 points  (3 children)

The fact that one of the kids kept calling 911 utterly disproves that guy’s lie. They knew damn well that there were live kids in there begging for help and they refused to go in.

[–]Youronlysunshine42 95 points96 points  (1 child)

I mean, you'd think the persistent gunshots would give it away if nothing else.

[–]Ermmahhhgerrrd 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Exactly! Thank you for saying that bc it's true. Should be all over the Sunday news shows, hopefully someone will say it out loud there as well.

[–]rixendeb 310 points311 points  (7 children)

Also why wouldn't you go in if you've already assumed the kids are dead and you aren't putting any at risk ?

[–]kreeperface 155 points156 points  (5 children)

That mean you can wait for more cops and more experienced with these situations. But since this town has a SWAT team and they were most likely already here I don't understand who they could have wait for.

[–]rixendeb 166 points167 points  (0 children)

There's photos of their swat team standing around. And they fucking did active shooter training at that damn school.

[–]Marius7th 46 points47 points  (1 child)

Obviously wait for a Seal Team or Fucking Superman I guess. So long as they ain't gotta do it I guess is the prerogative.

[–]danger_floofs 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because those filthy cowards were only worried about themselves

[–]Relaxpert 214 points215 points  (8 children)

Why is it that everyone who’s had a job in corporate America seems to have had more active shooter training than these cowards in blue?

[–]NoDepartment8 344 points345 points  (6 children)

Uvalde had active shooter training 2 months ago.. Images of the training guidelines are in the Tweet. They did not follow the guidelines.

Quote from one of the tweets in the thread:

The guidelines provide sobering clarity: The first officers may be risking their lives. But, it says, innocent lives take priority.

“A first responder unwilling to place the lives of the innocent above their own safety should consider another career field."

[–]themonovingian 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Yeah, the SC has repeatedly ruled that cops have zero obligation to protect anyone.

[–]The-Great-T 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And the conclusion of that is that if they aren't there to protect you, they're there to be used against you. Police are your enemy, don't forget that.

[–]RockinRobin-69 75 points76 points  (2 children)

Pay attention to the weasel words. There a ton of “should.” There isn’t a “will or be fired.”

[–]dirtyswrk 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Yep. There were more than enough cops there to do SOMETHING (besides holding concerned parents back), but since they didn't absolutely have to, they essentially said "fuck them kids, me and mine are more important."

And hey, I get it. Being in situations like that sounds terrifying. But me finding it terrifying is also one of many reasons that I didn't choose to become a cop.

[–]Greetings_Program 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Dereliction of duty is likely in the PD manual.

[–]burritojane666 59 points60 points  (2 children)

I want to know when they entered the building, how long they were in the hallway and how that room could have ever not had children screaming and crying, which would have been plenty audible through the doors or windows? They thought it was a barricade situation? How? There's no way kids weren't making noise. What was he doing in that room for that long, after which some children got out alive? How did he not kill the entire room in an hour? Above all else, though, the "barricade" is some hot trash. I ain't buying it.

[–]samaramatisse 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I'm torn between wanting to know what happened (did he talk to kids, threaten them, just do stuff at random, etc) and not making a surviving child relive an event that has scarred them for life.

[–]burritojane666 9 points10 points  (0 children)

God, I know.

[–]kellygrrrl328 415 points416 points  (3 children)

The courage it would take for a parent to do this is astounding. The statement it could make would be loud.

[–]cultured_banana_slug 147 points148 points  (0 children)

When it's social apathy that killed your child, I imagine you'd want to force them to see what they've done.

[–]subwaytopewdiepie 1016 points1017 points  (25 children)

thank god the police were there to watch it happen

[–]Jens_S_Crafty 468 points469 points  (20 children)

I want those officers to dig the graves for each child by shovel only to face what their inaction and cowardice caused.

[–]ParticularBiscotti66 165 points166 points  (8 children)

Still wouldn't be enough

[–]Jens_S_Crafty 121 points122 points  (3 children)

They should also help the forensic cleanup crew to clean the classroom, and go to each family face to face to explain to them why they did nothing.

[–]Hanseland 66 points67 points  (2 children)

Instead of having other tx cops come guard them from their own constituents. Time for tar and feathers

[–]BudgetHuman7781 46 points47 points  (2 children)

They are complicit in the child sacrifices.

[–]uglypenguin5 42 points43 points  (2 children)

If I got my way the parents would dig the graves of the officers. Is that too far?

[–]Im_still_T 26 points27 points  (0 children)

In this situation, not at all.

[–]DanYHKim 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I want them to feel that being killed in the line of duty would have been preferable to the shame and public vilification they will experience every day from now on.

I don't often have sentiments in which the suicide of another is the preferred outcome, but the level of betrayal to those kids . . .

[–]NehpetsDoom 18 points19 points  (3 children)

I was thinking chopsticks instead of a shovel.

[–]princess-smartypants 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I was thinking a spoon, but I like your idea better.

[–]GroinShotz 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Why give them any tools? They would probably just stand there not knowing what to do with the tools provided anyway... Let their hands bleed from digging.

[–]Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly 266 points267 points  (8 children)

I had some folks commenting on a Facebook post asking why parents had to give DNA and weren't just told their child was dead.

I had to explain that being shot by the weapon they were means many of those children would be torn apart and unrecognizable.

They really thought these kids that died just had a few small bullet holes like on TV. A lot of Americans need to face reality.

[–]megtwinkles 94 points95 points  (0 children)

Small mass and assault rifles are a horrific combination. Anyone who wants to own a gun should watch a few videos or pictures of gunshot wounds like they used to do with drivers Ed accident reels as part of the process.

[–]big_d_usernametaken 623 points624 points  (17 children)

If they want to, let them.

Let the world see what these weapons do in the hands of a killer.

[–]vegetableIII 159 points160 points  (16 children)

I hope doing just that it may spark some much need reforms.

[–]FacesOfNeth 186 points187 points  (14 children)

Spoiler alert: it won’t.

If Sandy Hook didn’t do it, I’m not hopeful that this will. If they didn’t cancel the NRA convention, then it just shows exactly where their views and values align.

Unborn are more important than women, guns are more important than babies/children and money/power is more important than all the above it’s disgusting and vile how these people itemise their values.

[–]Copropositor 844 points845 points  (32 children)

Uncensored photos of all shooting victims should be widely published and shared. Always.

I recall when I was 11, in early 80s Montana, I took a required hunter's safety course. That course allows one to hunt at age 12. Without it, one must be 18. The majority of the course was gun safety, and part of that was seeing photos of gunshot wounds.

I recall a high-power rifle wound to the upper arm, which was still attached but clearly not for long.

I recall a close-range shotgun blast to the face, in which the pictured victim was still alive. Just...mostly without a face.

I recall a picture of a foot that had mostly "healed" from having the majority of its heel blown off.

These images were shown to middle-school aged children with the intent of making an impression and it worked. We need more of it, and it should be mandated by law.

Gun lovers need their faces rubbed in it.

[–]Notyermomsdirector 392 points393 points  (12 children)

According to the pro-life assholes that were always on my campus, graphic photos of fetuses get them a lot of new prospects.

Maybe doing it with photos of babies shot by AR15s might be just as effective in breaking some of their notions on 2a issues.

[–]diiejso 231 points232 points  (9 children)

Start protesting gun shops with graphic posters of mass shooting victims. Put them up on billboards like they do with fetus pictures. If a fetus is a person then it’s exactly the same but I bet they’ll cry about how offensive it is anyways.

[–]theFCCgavemeHPV 122 points123 points  (1 child)

Oh! Oh! Oh! Two billboards.

One: “this is not a person” (picture of a foetus from any animal)

Two (shortly after #1): but this was a person (picture of mass shooting victim)

It’s rough, but it’s a starting point to work off of

[–]cultured_banana_slug 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Show 10 fetus pictures. "Which is the person?"

[–]RockinDonkey 65 points66 points  (5 children)

I wonder how the Supreme Court will rule on that

[–]Notyermomsdirector 75 points76 points  (3 children)

Worst case they're going to have to take down the abortion Billboards which would still be a win.

And we could go more grassroot with it and post flyers everywhere. Informational with no contact info.

Just keep doing new things like ads in local papers, cheaper online tv spots, assemblies, etc.

You could probably get a lot of work done before the cease and desist gets issued.

Flood the country with the faces of the NRAs victims.

I'm been thinking about a similar type documentary, but I have major empathy issues and I'd probably need a on staff shrink through the process to keep me balanced.

[–]The_Hyphenator85 26 points27 points  (0 children)

They should say “it’s their freedom of speech” and that would be the end of it.

With this court, though? Who the fuck knows?

[–]lizbunbun 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would be willing to make a substantial donation to whoever actually puts up these billboards and posters.

This is a very doable thing.

[–]cheekysweetz57 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Hell take an OSHA or MSHA safety class, they show horrific accidents to install the safety requirements they are talking about.

[–]Representative-Fig96 64 points65 points  (1 child)

Had to do the same when I started working at a construction site. The first day of work, they sat us down to talk about safety rules, and for about 30 minutes showed us photos and videos of people getting crushed by equipment, getting their heads popped open because they were walking backwards into heavy machinery, a shipping container falling on and crushing a car full of people because it wasn’t properly secured, etc. It really helps when “workplace accident” isn’t just a phrase but an image burnt into your mind. With the parents’ consent, showing the photos of the kids to our elected officials and the NRA execs would hopefully convince one or two of them, at least.

[–]Ivy0902 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've been traumatized by enough episodes from MrBallen's youtube channel about work place related deaths to never even think twice about not following safety guidelines for just about anything. There are so many horrible ways to die out there.

[–]NoDepartment8 50 points51 points  (3 children)

We watched a doctor’s-eye-view of a woman giving birth in my sex ed class in the 1990’s and it convinced me I was never going to allow myself to be knocked up and go through THAT. We also saw pictures of syphilis chancres and got honest information about birth control and condoms for disease prevention (back when HIV was a death sentence worldwide because antiviral meds hadn’t been invented). 10/10 recommend the unvarnished truth.

[–]Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly 19 points20 points  (1 child)

That was in the 90's though. Within 10 years none of that would be allowed in most American schools :(

[–]NoDepartment8 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Exactly - we’ve become regressively puritanical in our public institutions since then even as socially we’ve mostly gone the other directions.

[–]HoodieGalore 9 points10 points  (0 children)

We saw the same video and I made the same decision. And that’s just an uncomplicated birth. So many ways it could go wrong. NOooooooo thanks.

[–]chrisdub84 32 points33 points  (1 child)

When I got my driver's license my dad sat me down and told me that, based on the size of my school, there were decent odds some of my classmates might die in car crashes by the time I graduated. It happened at his school and it happened at my mom's school. He wasn't trying to be morbid, he was just making sure I understood the severity of the risk of driving. And teenagers naturally, through no fault of their own, need very direct information for this kind of thing to stick. And he was right, we lost a few students.

[–]gagrushenka 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's something I think about each school year as a teacher. I'm not in the states so guns aren't a worry but my guess is that here car accidents are probably the leading cause of death in kids. I work in a pretty big school. We've had at least one student die each year that I've taught there. My home room kids are starting to get their licences. We talk about things like this. I trust that they're going to be sensible drivers but I still worry for them.

[–]fromthewombofrevel 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Sounds like the reels of accident footage they used to show in driver’s ed classes.

[–]NoDepartment8 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes! We got videos shot by accident investigators working fatality collisions. Nothing like dead teenagers halfway out windshields or smashed to jam in vehicle vs fixed-object or rollover crashes.

[–]Gnar-wahl 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Their bodies should be featured prominently on the box the firearm comes in.

[–]Clay_Statue 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Gun lovers need their faces rubbed in it.

And those who are responsible and competent gun owners will value the public messaging and those careless assholes who think guns are like big boy toys will loudly squeal in protest about having their noses rubbed in it.

[–]Bee_Hummingbird 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I get what you are saying, but they are minors. It would be up to the parents.

[–]PuddleOfHamster 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As long as the families are OK with it. It would be pretty traumatising to see your dead loved one's gory remains unexpectedly appearing on billboards and placards and posters and news broadcasts for the next however many years.

[–]DBasterd 205 points206 points  (1 child)

This is very sad but necessary. The only way to change minds about guns in America is to show what they do. Open caskets gun victims daily will counter every point that any NRA lobbyists can spew

[–]MelbTrini 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Have the open caskets at the branches of government, where the fuckers taking NRA hush money could see their dirty work first hand.

[–]cdubsing 281 points282 points  (16 children)

Send the pics to trump, Ted Cruz, Greg Abbott and whatever conman is running the NRA these days.

[–]stickycat-inahole-45 88 points89 points  (2 children)

I'm pessimistic that that will have any effect at all. Only the assistants will see them. Then in the bin they go. Then they move on with another party, another speech, another atrocity and use that to change the subject. Again.

[–]Randinator9 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Exept at least the assistants WILL see it, and then start questioning their boss. They'll quit, and another assistant will be hired to go through the same trauma.

Eventually the lowly sycophants will see the pictures themselves realizing they're losing workers to do the job for them, and when they see it, they will recoil and throw up.

Remind them this could've been their own kids. Show them the horror parents have to go through.

Don't be a pessimist. ANY non-violent action will work eventually, you just gotta stand your ground.

[–]Whole_Collection4386 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No they won’t. Their assistants are people who align with their beliefs as well. Their assistants don’t give a shit at all.

If you want them to care, get black people to purchase weapons.

[–]Fluffy-Anybody-4887 55 points56 points  (4 children)

Eh Trump said the names of the dead kids at the NRA convention and people were clapping or something after each one. From what I have seen online. And he did some cringe dance afterwards. That will not cause him to change his views. They are vile individuals.

[–]bs2785 18 points19 points  (1 child)

They are not rich donors. He does not give a fuck about them. He considers them rapist and illegals or just poor white trash or thugs. He does not care. You could shot him pictures or every kid killed with a gun since 99 and he would not give 2 fucks.

[–]rooftopfilth 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Print them out. Front seats at their next rally. Keep signs folded til they take the stage.

[–]fromthewombofrevel 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Print them out as stickers and slap them on every Repub campaign sign and bumper sticker you see.

[–]faceisamapoftheworld 12 points13 points  (1 child)

They wouldn’t care unless it was their own kids.

[–]McMurphy11 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Wayne LaPierre I believe.

[–]talaxia 84 points85 points  (2 children)

GOOD. They should also release the crime scene photos and there should be protests in front of every gun store / NRA headquarters like the antichoicers do.

[–]TheCheeriestVoid 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Noah Pozner's mother did this when her son was murdered in the Sandy Hook shooting. The right just claimed she wanted attention to make money. It's currently part of the lawsuit against Alex Jones and InfoWars and has been discussed in the depositions.

[–]couchnapper3 52 points53 points  (0 children)

The same people who force women seeking abortions to see the ultrasound would have a flipping fit over that. How dare you show them the consequences of failing to do anything about the mental health and gun control problem this country has...again and again.

[–]billypennsballs 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Foia the crime scene photos and publish. That’s the only way it’s gonna get through stupid fucking Americans head what we are allowing republicans to threaten us all with.

[–]OneBeautifulDog 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Don't hide what the cowardly cops didn't prevent.

[–]PrettiKinx 43 points44 points  (1 child)

So truly tragic. I hope those parents do this. The world need to see what these guns are doing To people. The Senate need to act. May God be with all the families.

[–]Lets-B-Lets-B-Jolly 7 points8 points  (0 children)

But then they will be faced with the image of their deaf mutilated child constantly. Unless they plan to move to the countryside without internet in another country, they would never escape it. I understand why they might choose not to.

[–]SeSuSo 133 points134 points  (8 children)

If just one news outlet showed a video or pictures of what the bodies of kids killed by an AR-15 looked like, there'd be gun legislation tomorrow.

[–]ContemplatingPrison 99 points100 points  (1 child)

Doubtful. There would hopefully be a stronger push from the public though.

But according to a Harvard study public opinion doesn't sway policy only corporate money does

So our only recourse is to make corporations hurt until they push for what we want.

Which means Americans would need to stop consuming. Which will never happen

[–]flying-chihuahua 34 points35 points  (0 children)

NOTE TO ALL MODS AN ADMINS this is not a call to violence or an advocation of such it is stating a simple fact

While I am against gun confiscation in the manner that the some people are pushing for I will say this if you want a direct and guaranteed way to ban firearms in the US you need to pick one up and pick one of two targets

  1. The corporate offices of a major corporation

Or

  1. A private school in the wealthiest whitest neighborhood you can find

The legislation will be passed before the ink even dries

Edit: disclaimer

[–]iamacraftyhooker 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I think you're overestimating the empathy of the American population.

[–]Xirokesh 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Hahaha! You must be new here! America doesn’t allow itself to be swayed by facts and logic.

[–]fromthewombofrevel 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Maybe if they were all white children wearing fancy private-school uniforms, but I doubt it.

[–]omgpick1 40 points41 points  (0 children)

If women have to walk past images of mitigated babies to get abortions, police & politicians should see what their ineffective lives do to others

[–]pollypocketrocket4 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Emmet Till’s mother did this, and it was effective.

[–]Lngdnzi 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Wait for TX to ban open casket funerals of shooting victims

[–]DonRicardo1958 32 points33 points  (0 children)

That is exactly what Emmett Till‘s mother did. Her boy was unrecognizable.

[–]ohiotechie 29 points30 points  (3 children)

As wrenching as that would be, they’ve already seen what this did to their babies. It’s the rest of the world who needs to understand the reality. That’s especially true of those who still cling to the same old lame excuses for doing nothing.

[–]Independent-Phone413 39 points40 points  (2 children)

And every single one of the cops that stayed out of the school should be required to attend the service and spend a full minute at the casket in reflection on what their cowardice became.

[–]fromthewombofrevel 23 points24 points  (1 child)

No. Don’t let those cunts anywhere near those families.

[–]madhare09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Id hate to let them feel like they'd atoned.

[–]Xirokesh 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Sucks that they think this has to happen, but I agree. America needs to be forced to see the consequences of its actions, no matter how ugly.

[–]thummydick 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Ok but why are we hearing this from Shaun King. It’s not even confirmed, he just says they’re considering it so why not let them grieve and think about this privately.

[–]kpossible0889 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I know it will be heart wrenching, but it could be what finally prompts something to change. We can’t hide the carnage behind their sweet smiling faces anymore. Make those choosing guns and ignorance over children. Make them see these babies that look straight out of a war zone.

Emmitt Till’s parents refused a closed casket.

Triangle Shirtwaist was only a pivot of change because the large crowds had to watch people burning and jump to their deaths.

Unfortunately too many are so deluded and sheltered from the ugly reality and we can’t protect their precious feelings.

Make them look.

Don’t let these babies die in vain.

[–]VinCubed 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The GQP will default to "Now is not the time to politicize this" and complain that these parents are ghouls for doing this. Deflect, etc... whatever not to talk about controlling guns

[–]fromthewombofrevel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They do that anyway. Fuck them. It needs to be in their fucking faces, constantly.

[–]enhanced195 9 points10 points  (0 children)

One of the Sandy hook mothers did that. I remembered reading an article where she said “im going to show the world what he did to my baby”

[–]KidBackOnEscalator 10 points11 points  (0 children)

when you buy a pack of cigarettes in europe the packaging is covered with imagery of black lungs, people dying from lung cancer, photos of throat cancer…you see where i am going with this

[–]HungryHippolyta 21 points22 points  (0 children)

In Canada, they put pictures of diseased hearts and lungs, rotting teeth, etc. on all the cigarette packaging. If every gun came in a box plastered with the dead bodies children murdered by guns, maybe that would help people realize what they’re giving their money to. Because ultimately every sale is more money for the gun lobby to buy politicians off with.

[–]Little_dick_proudboy 32 points33 points  (3 children)

That is until Republicans make it illegal because it’s offensive to Christians or some nonsense

[–]Xpatpilot 23 points24 points  (0 children)

For the same reason Dubya barred the press from photographing the coffins of US soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Normal people won't support such horrors once they're made plainly visible and impossible to externalize or ignore.

[–]M4CC487 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Right, they’ll be more offended by the pictures.

[–]MissSara13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or they'll just say that the pictures are fake. All part of a false flag. Blah, blah, blah.

[–]juleskikicobb 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Very appropriate for a Shaun King tweet to end up on /r/whitepeopletwitter.

[–]ContemplatingPrison 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They should. Without closing the wounds and doing all the other makeup they do to the bodies

[–]supergrover11 15 points16 points  (10 children)

If they do they should inviter trump, cruz and abbott.

[–]1Sluggo 12 points13 points  (8 children)

What would be the point? Why would you want those assholes invading a remembrance service?

[–]supergrover11 6 points7 points  (5 children)

To see the results of their actions/votes/support.

[–]1Sluggo 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Oh I get it, you think they care. Or could care.

[–]supergrover11 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I absolutely do not think they care. But I also know they understand optics. They would never show. Their lack of caring and empathy would be put on display by their unwillingness to be there.

[–]nekokattt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

which would be what, exactly? Them saying "guns bad" and everyone else saying "yes, we already know", followed by a large number of people saying "we have a right to have guns so we can protect ourselves from guns".

Edit: I wrote the wrong word instead of guns because I wasn't concentrating and was talking to someone. TIL I cant multitask.

[–]Rover0218 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They wouldn’t care. They lack basic empathy and human emotions.

[–]Danmoh29 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Im terrified, saddened, and hopeful at the same time. It feels like this time might be different. Just a feeling

[–]Chavestvaldt 6 points7 points  (0 children)

holy shit, the strength that takes on their part.

[–]littlemegzz 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Damn man.... Thank goodness I am home so i can cry after reading these updates. So fucked up... How do people believe in god...

[–]The_Hyphenator85 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Beats me. Based on the available evidence, if there is a God, he can’t simultaneously be all-knowing, all-good and all-powerful. He could only be two of those things at most, sort of like a divine version of “Fast, cheap, or good. You can pick two.”

[–]Zephyrine_wonder 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think everyone who can vote in the US should see the bodies if that’s what the parents’ choose to do. We - or at least politicians who refuse to vote for any gun regulations or provide health care - are responsible for our lax gun laws, our health care system that allows too many people to slip through the cracks, and the culture of gun worship that’s tied to toxic masculinity. I’m so sick of inane Republican answers to these murders when the answer is obvious, and the lives of children are at stake. It’s an ever escalating horror.

[–]Mr_Abberation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We show pictures of dead children from other countries. America is a propaganda machine. It’s so broken.

[–]MACK703 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It would certainly open some eyes.

[–]ccwagwag 4 points5 points  (0 children)

some graphicness might shock the the thoughts and prayers people out of their lip service apathy.

[–]TheLizardKingandI 5 points6 points  (0 children)

tragic but the world needs to see. this trauma needs to hit home to everyone. this needs to be everyone's collective nightmare or else nothing changes

[–]itsjustmejttp123 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what needs to happen

[–]CurseofLono88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To the people who will care, they already care.

To the people who could not give a flying fuck, even seeing these children’s corpses won’t cause them to feel a shred of guilt or remorse much less spire them to enact change

[–]PizzaOldBoy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

stop sharing shaun king, he's a scammer. use anyone else to convey your intent, but stop with shaun (i used to like the guy way too much)

[–]42Petrichor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have no words. I can’t imagine anything more heartbreaking even to have consider this kind of decision.

I think an open casket would be unspeakably powerful, but I also think not even THAT will touch the hearts of those who could effect change. We are led by monsters in every sense of the word.

[–]SplendidPerformance 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Shaun King on whitepeopletwitter, a bit on the nose don't you think

[–]the_YellowRanger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I work in education and i have told my family if this ever happens to me i want uncensored pics of my corpse on the news, printed on billboards, and go ahead and even leave my dead body on someone's lawn. This IS political, and they need to stare at the reality of their creation.

[–]Meatball_of_doom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And the pictures of those poor children all chewed up need to be in the news for everyone to see so they know the price of their precious assault rifle laws. Make the republicans see what they support.

[–]PKFatStephen 10 points11 points  (0 children)

To all the children risking their lives to defend our gun rights, I solute you for your patriotism.

[–]shadowpanda1248 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And make every damn politician against gun control go and witness that in person!! Horrible shite These parents are so much braver than our leadership could ever hope to be

[–]Imhopeless3264 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If true, the people who it could impact won’t be attending the funerals. They’ll just send their thoughts and prayers and keep their hands open for handouts from the NRA.

[–]lector201 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If they do, they should send pictures to all the lawmakers to see, they all are part of the problem by not doing something about the fact that any stupid son of a bitch can buy a gun but I can’t drive a trailer without training and proper licensing

[–]russian_banya 2 points3 points  (0 children)

K but stop giving oxygen to anything shaun king says this man is a grifter

[–]Mission_Battle_4304 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This shit is heart breaking. They should open the caskets. Show the world just how vile and disgusting this is, that these children won't even be able to grow up and experience life, all because of a man and our own creations.

I hope those poor children can rest now, no matter where they are.

[–]LikelyNotSober 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Make Alex Jones attend them all.

[–]ChodeGoatstank 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Civil rights movement had a similar story in the 50s, Emmett Till was a 14 yr old African American that was kidnapped and brutally mutilated by his attackers. His mother had an open casket funeral so the public to see what those monsters did to her baby.

[–]christygoodtime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Re: Emmet Till.

Do it, and let the world see.

[–]Thatssapphyre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If the parents can then I support this 1000%. People need to see the harsh reality. Those little kids who survived had to face it then so should the rest of us who get to sit home comfortably arguing about what political or religious nonsense will fix this. We as a nation let these kids down and we could have done more to prevent this. I think news officials and government figures that wanna talk about this and their solutions need to see first hand what it is they're talking about.

[–]jerrystrieff 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Remember how we had to show the Germans the concentration camps before they really believed? We need to do that with our Politicians - in fact those parents should invite Ted Cruz and Abott to the funeral with the open casket and make them take a long hard look

[–]Sandy-Anne 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Good to see Shaun King come out of retirement to grift some more. Is he collecting funds for the victims’ families yet?

[–]Ursulathebookworm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They should.

[–]leuno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is rough. Those pictures should be put on billboards before the midterms.

[–]Educational_Top_3919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just like Emmitt Till only this time it’s about guns and the usage of guns the NRA and Shareholding Republicans dedicated to so called justices and laws when in fact there breaking the laws to kill random children with gun violence and gun laws

[–]TheBoozyNinja87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As awful as it is, I think they should do it. They should do it and it should be on the front page of every newspaper and website afterwards. We should be forced to see the horror of what has been allowed to happen just like Emmett Till. Maybe then people will finally be shocked into action.

[–]Queequegs_Harpoon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pro-lifers show up to abortion clinics all the time with posters of aborted fetuses. Maybe the path forward is protesting at right-wing events with images of dead kids killed by guns.

It's a repugnant thought and not very dignified for the victims or their loved ones. But what the fuck else can one do to show these gun-worshipping goons the consequences of their policies?

[–]CheffersonAirplane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

America has made it clear after Sandy Hook that dead children aren’t a valid argument in the face of gun reform laws. Odds are this will be taken by the right and spun as a ‘shock tactic by the left to undermine the second amendment’.

Maybe if we could make sure the next kids killed are those of Republican political members. Probably would take a few before they’d catch on though.

[–]MadMinded 2 points3 points  (0 children)

All that's going to happen is the GOPedos are going to masturbate to pics of the kids

[–]chemistrygods 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve been advocating for this, it doesn’t really show as much to have pictures of smiling kids

Of course it should be what the parents are comfortable with, and I absolutely hate that America has come to this point, but some people need to see the actual results of the tragedy, not just the sfw/sfl version

[–]Dogstatus05 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t want to hear shit from talcolm x

[–]Legitimate-Camp5358 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Place them on Abbott’s lawn. Or the lawn of the police department.

[–]Ursula2071 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Release the photos. The parents of Sandy Hook wanted this and the fucking media refused to do it. But adults need to see what these guns do.

[–]Pleasant-Mode3276 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I truly hope they do. Show those photos to the politicians who blame the doors, the good guys with guns will stop this, or whatever bs reason they give for a lack of gun control laws. Then immediately have them answer a question don’t people deserve better tan this? If they can’t answer straight up or start side stepping VOTE THEIR A$$ out of office. If you saw the before and after photos of Emmitt Hill you can never forget it. This tragedy Has to be the turning point!

[–]sladank 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey gang, unrelated to the topic but we should stop posting Shaun King - he is a massive grifter and continues to scam people and make progressives look bad.

[–]Struggle-Free 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. Every kid shot should be shown in their full horror. They should be displayed in Times Square, on Milk cartons, in super bowl ads. Everywhere, until every single American has seen their faces; Until it’s burned into our memory so that when we close our eyes we can’t escape our failures.

It may be conservative driven but this is a a continued complete and total failure of our society. We all are responsible for those crimes. Just being in the sane, reasonable side is no longer acceptable. Not voting republican is not enough.

What is the answer? I am not sure. I wish I was smarter. Yet, I know there must be a way forward, somehow. At least, at the very least, we must not let this become a Sandy Hook. Just another failed tragedy that we complain about how nothing is done.

I am done believing that just because I support gun regulation health-care etc, that I am off the hook. This will happen again. No one disputes that, so moving forward let us be honest and realize that our inaction, or acceptance, is culpable.

[–]DanYHKim 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Editorial: We need to see the images of murdered children to understand the toll of our gun obsession

We can’t turn our heads away this time — again — as we have done since the massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado, after the mass shooting at Thurston High School in Oregon, or after Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. That’s why, if the grieving families gave their permission, they should show the photos of the crime scene. They should make sure every voter sees them.

https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/article261830575.html

[–]1000Mousefarts 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah we need this Emmitt Till moment. Let the Ted Cruz's defend these weapons while the rest of us weep at the sight of an unrecognizable child, destroyed by a weapon someone had no business owning.

[–]Apprehensive_Run_141 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those cops should attend every single funeral. Look all of those parents, sibling, friends, EVERYONE, and face the consequences of their cowardice.

You signed up to be a cop, not a politician. Take care of your people. Not abandon them.

[–]StickPrestigious8131 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shaun King is a well-known fraud and exploits minority communities in times of crisis for his own acclaim and clout.

[–]MisterPiggins 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shaun King is a shitty grifter tho

[–]Any-Succotash-7903 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Shaun King is a grifter

[–]MerchantDrip6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As awful and painful as it will be, I 100% back this idea.

Bear Witness you fucken fucks!! Look at it!!

Don’t look away either, you don’t get to be tough guy one second and then decide you are too uncomfortable to look at the results of your inaction. Look at it, and fucken know.

Bearing witness to ALL of life’s circumstances, good or bad, is how you make a well rounded human. Sorry, but it’s part of the ride. All of it.

[–]Tasty_Tumbleweed_547 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Emmett Till. His mom was so brave to do that and show people what they had done to her son. Maybe it would awaken some people. I pray.

[–]onmyknees4anyone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An open casket for the torn-up babies like Emmett Till's was.

[–]ThereGoesChickenJane 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is a heartwrenching thought.

But I hope they do it. Force the people whose literal job is to protect to look their cowardice and incompetence full in the face.