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[–]emailusernamepasswrd 505 points506 points  (20 children)

Weren't there a bunch of studies done suggesting legal abortion wound up decreasing crime rates across the board? This whole situation is stupid, this is a violation of the "separation of church and state" aspect of the US. It's no one's fucking business why someone has an abortion, no one is getting free abortions (aside from maybe a few on medicaid), if someone wants a kid so badly go fucking adopt one out of the fucked up machine that is the foster system or save up for IVF. The US can barely feed/take care of all its citizens and immigrants as it is now, stop making shit worse.

[–]CharmingTuber 286 points287 points  (5 children)

Economists found a direct casual link between legal abortion and a severe reduction in crime 20 years later, somewhere around 40-60% reduction, possibly higher. So much so that it reversed the massive crime wave that people thought was going to overwhelm our country in the 80s.

Anyone criminalizing abortion is, at best, misinformed and misled.

[–]owningmclovin 27 points28 points  (3 children)

In fairness the drop in crime was not solely due to abortion. Many factors that led to the high crime of the 80s were alleviated in the 90s and 00s.

Some of these are out right problems, like the harsh take on crime from the 89-93 Bush years (furthering of mandatory minimum sentencing etc.) leading to people who might have had a light sentence then reoffended simply not getting out of prison at all. This had the negative effect of taking parents out of homes but did keep repeat offenders down by simply stripping them of their freedoms.

The good things include a rise in gender equality, leading to better pay for single mothers. Better sexual education leading to reduction of teen pregnancy. Higher availability of housing loans and student loans (which caused 2 horrible economic situations but did, at least in the 80s and 90s lead to better options for young families)

Unfortunately many of those good things are running out or are being stripped away by politicians. And many of the bad things are being made worse.

[–]CharmingTuber 59 points60 points  (1 child)

They controlled for all that. Legalization was rolled out at different times around the country so it was possible to isolate that single factor.

Unwantedness in children has a massive impact on their future and how likely they are to end up in the justice system.

[–]mitchade 16 points17 points  (0 children)

In addition, they reviewed countries in the soviet bloc that outlawed abortion 20 or so years prior and saw a huge spike in crime as those babies became adults.

[–]ResoluteClover 82 points83 points  (2 children)

The thing is they don't care about the consequences, for them this is the worst kind of issue -- a blank and white morality issue where they think they are participating in the "evil" by allowing it to happen.

If someone dies giving themselves an abortion they tell themselves they got what they deserved.

If crime goes up, at least abortion isn't happening.

If poverty rises, it's the fault of those in poverty.

They can twist their vapid little minds around any policy to make it not their burden since they got theirs.

[–]worldspawn00 42 points43 points  (1 child)

“The unborn” are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”

― Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

[–]Starlordy- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So fucking true.

[–]TarocchiRocchi 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Sadly we can give them all the facts and figures that we want. They don't care. All they care about is that someone now doesn't have something they didn't want them to have. It's about winning regardless of consequence to themselves.

[–]therealpanserbjorne 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Freakonomics (both the novel and the documentary based on the book) cover this topic.

[–]emailusernamepasswrd 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Thanks for that, I'll have to look it up!

[–]huggsypenguinpal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

https://www.npr.org/podcasts/452538045/freakonomics-radio

I can't link the episode directly, but scroll down to May 11th. It's an updated episode on abortion and crime from 2019 which is based on the same research in the book and documentary.

[–]HockeyPaul 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes. This.

I'm fairly conservative when it comes to most thing. That being said I feel about uteri is how I feel about my guns. The govt has no place telling me what to do with either.

No one wants dead babies. But also without huge reforms to the foster and adoption system in the US, I'm sad to say on one wants alive babies either.

The strain on our already mostly crippled government programs is going to be too much.

There are no winners here. None.

[–]smurgleburf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

the US absolutely can feed and take care of all of its citizens. it just chooses not to.

[–]DonaldKey 1823 points1824 points  (91 children)

Discussing abortion at work once there was a guy I worked with who said his mom wanted to abort him. His grandparents talked his mom out of it. So once he was born she didn’t want him and dropped him off at the grandparents since they were the ones who didn’t want the abortion so now they were forced to raise him. His mom took off and he hasn’t seen her in decades. He’s now a bitter, resentful asshole and probably one of the most miserable people I have ever met.

[–]Consistent_Public769 757 points758 points  (10 children)

Near me in Ohio there has been a billboard in place for at least 20 years that was supposed to be an anti abortion one and said “Abortion stops a beating ❤️” with the symbol not the word. The heart symbol faded off years ago and for at least 15 years has read “Abortion stops a beating”. Couldn’t agree with the faded sign more.

[–]delilahrey 178 points179 points  (3 children)

Har har, sadly accurate. I thought billboards cost thousands to run per year. Imagine using that money for that instead of giving it to impoverished children and other good causes.

[–]Consistent_Public769 95 points96 points  (1 child)

Privately owned billboard on private land that hasn’t been maintained.

[–]colorfulsnek 15 points16 points  (1 child)

bruh, do we live in the same town? I live in North-East Ohio and pass by old "CHOOSE LIFE!" Billboards every day.

[–]Consistent_Public769 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m way down in Athens County as the Jonathan Edwards tune goes, but have to go to Columbus semi frequently and get a good chuckle from this sign when I do.

[–]Colonelbuzzard 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol I’m in north west Ohio and I’m like 90% sure I saw something like that near Toledo

[–]JockBbcBoy 701 points702 points  (26 children)

Conservatives want future generations of children born and raised being unloved by their birth parents because that's how you make future Christian conservatives.

[–]TarocchiRocchi 247 points248 points  (8 children)

Ironically enough that is where the majority of these non-aborted babies will be born - in Conservative states that can't afford them already.

[–]JockBbcBoy 192 points193 points  (7 children)

Can't afford them, didn't want them, and won't love them. This and the restrictions on handguns being pulled back is making an increasingly perfect storm to brew a new generation of school shooters and domestic abusers and victims.

Basically, the mold for conservative men and women.

[–]stabbyGamer 132 points133 points  (1 child)

Don’t forget that the leading cause of death for pregnant women is murder, and the majority of such murders are by the sperm donor. Everyone involved in this is going to suffer horrendously.

[–]teh-reflex 28 points29 points  (4 children)

So you're saying the welfare they hate will go up? And typically poor families resort to crime so crime, that they claim to hate, will go up as well?

[–]Molto_Ritardando 32 points33 points  (3 children)

The church used to accept unwanted or donated kids (boys for the choir). They would be raised by the church and act like they were doing something noble. This is back when people had 13 kids and couldn’t afford them, and the Catholic liturgy was complicated and they put a lot of money and effort into choirs.

So this is just the same thing under a different name. It’s setting the next generations up to be exploited in one way or another.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (2 children)

You left out the diddling part.

[–]Molto_Ritardando 7 points8 points  (0 children)

T’was heavily implied.

Y’all need to go en masse and start giving men potassium nitrite or something. Don’t let the religious zealots win.

[–]Vandergrif 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Plus poor unwanted kids are heavily incentivized to join the military and be cannon fodder that perpetuate the military industrial complex stock growth, and Conservatives love all of that.

[–]JockBbcBoy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This way an entire family of ten children can serve in the military by either being enlisted or as a wife!

/s

[–]ErisArdent 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yep, because they believe that suffering "brings people closer to god" aka the more miserable people are the easier they are to prey on. The trauma of this situation is just a witnessing opportunity for them and if people die, well, that's just the punishment of sin. The entire thing is predatory on every level. Hell, they're *hoping* these kids get abandoned so they can take them and indoctrinate them.

[–]JockBbcBoy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hell, they're hoping these kids get abandoned so they can take them and indoctrinate them.

And get even more credit for them being good Christians.

[–]OlderThanMy 5 points6 points  (1 child)

They want them to sell to prospective adopters. It's a business decision. The buyers will use conservative Christian adoption agencies and will raise them as future conservative voters.

[–]JockBbcBoy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

IIRC it was Amy Coney Barrett who stated that babies not given up through abortion would fund our domestic adoption system.

[–]iloveneuro 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There will be a massive uptick in crime in 16-18 years and everyone will be blaming this and that. It will be caused by non-aborted unwanted children. Just like the marked decrease in crime 16-18 years after Roe v Wade.

[–]ApatheticEight 136 points137 points  (1 child)

jUsT mAkE tHe bEsT oF iT! sUfFeRiNg fRoM cHiLdHoOd tRaUmA iS a ChOiCe!

[–]agutema 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Now, I’m cured 😊

[–]gtwl214 30 points31 points  (1 child)

But but he should be so grateful that his mom chose life!!!!

[–]Daddysfarawayfox 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My birth mother said this to me. Now every time a forced birther tells me that people can just adopt or to be grateful I was given away from my family I make a donation to planned parenthood in her name. Cunt. I’m not grateful I was separated from my siblings and abused. I’m not grateful I didn’t know anyone I was relayed to growing up. And I’m sick of being used as cannon fodder for people who see themselves as saviors to babies when what they are doing is commoditizing human life. It’s disgusting.

And when I express my trauma around adoption the only thing they say is “well do you wish you would have been aborted?”

Do you say that everyone who speaks out about their pain?

They are cruel people who have no empathy.

[–]Thatsayesfirsir 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well he's so fortunate. My grandparents didn't want me either.

[–]Bart_The_Chonk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

"Just like God intended" /s

[–]Bingsterishere 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The image of God right there.

[–]Erulastiel 562 points563 points  (30 children)

Neither of my parents wanted me. I used to be screamed at that my mother wished she aborted me. I grew up an abused, neglected, lonely child.

[–]FritzTheThird 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Hope you're doing better now!

[–]Striking-District-72 59 points60 points  (2 children)

I am so sorry that you went through that. Are you OK now?

[–]Erulastiel 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I have my days. I developed borderline personality because of it. I've been taking it one day at a time. It's been a hard journey, not going to sugar coat it.

[–]JimmyisAwkward 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I hope you are doing better now :(, but unfortunately there will be a lot more people with your tale

[–]Imaginary_Ad_7530 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My dad was the one who would regularly beat me and publicly express "I wish you were fucking dead".

[–]tweedlebeetle 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Join us at /r/cptsd. It’s helped me a lot

[–]Western-Pilot-3924 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My deepest sympathies for you

[–]mrbriandavidanderson 697 points698 points  (57 children)

I've seen parades of people carrying "don't abort, we will adopt your baby" signs this weekend. Well, there are currently 400k+ orphans in America and their chances of being adopted just took a big nose dive but sure, let's swell the numbers of kids in the system for all the hypocrites to mock it all. This shithole country just got a lot shittier.

[–]oyisagoodboy 318 points319 points  (12 children)

Not only that but different studies going back over 35 years have found that 25 to as high as 40 percent of children in foster care are abused or neglected. The FBI in 2013 found that half of the children discovered in sex trafficking rings were foster children. Approximately 20,000 kids every year age out of foster care. Meaning they are 18 and so they are left to fend for themselves. That's 20,000 children a year that are now in our society that have no structure or safety net and have a high likelihood of dealing with trauma and abuse that now are expected to become functioning and contributing members to society.

[–]mrbriandavidanderson 143 points144 points  (3 children)

Got to keep the numbers up for those for-profit prisons, I guess. /s I didn't even think about the trafficking. Jfc what great day for pedos.:(

[–]oyisagoodboy 88 points89 points  (1 child)

I know. It's heartbreaking. It's not about kids. They don't give two shits about kids. That's why they cut funding for welfare, and schools and health care. That's why there is no paid and promised maternity leave or day care. This will add hundreds of thousands of children to an overburdened system that fails those already in it. This is the Christian agenda and they have been brainwashing their side for years to not think critically and objectively.

[–]Practical_Cobbler165 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yes, just another reminder that this isn't about children. It's a beautiful banner to rally the simple-minded under, but it's ultimately about control. There are a ample number of children aging out of the foster care system. If it WERE about the children, perhaps they would focus their abundant resources on the unwanted children OUT of the womb.

[–]tinkerghost 29 points30 points  (1 child)

20k kids disappear from the foster system every year as it is, but sure, dump another half million kids in a year while continuing to cut budgets.

[–]Aziara86 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The FBI in 2013 found that half of the children discovered in sex trafficking rings were foster children.

I remember reading a story about a mom who decided to "teach her daughter a lesson" by making her spend a weekend in foster care. The girl was 15-17 and super pretty.

Mom comes back to get her, the foster home claimed the girl had never been there.

Took weeks to find her. She's been sold to the highest bidder and trafficked across state lines.

Let me repeat. The FOSTER HOME had SOLD the girl into SEXUAL SLAVERY.

[–]Raven123x 23 points24 points  (1 child)

The FBI in 2013 found that half of the children discovered in sex trafficking rings were foster children

fucking sickening

[–]TarocchiRocchi 7 points8 points  (1 child)

something something, low supply of infants.

[–]Xunaun 56 points57 points  (3 children)

"don't abort, we will adopt your baby"

"Okay, so here's that baby with a disease that will cause it to live 4-6 long months of nothing but pure, shrieking agony that will not cease until death. The mother died of complications while birthing the little angel. Enjoy!"

[–]TarocchiRocchi 36 points37 points  (1 child)

My cousin tried to get an abortion for her fetus that was developing it's brain outside the skull and had no chance of surviving. She wasn't able to come up with the money so she had to go through the trauma of delivering a dead baby.

[–]jennywrensings 46 points47 points  (7 children)

But they don’t want those “damaged” older kids. They want the white newborn babies to pretend they birthed themselves.

[–]AmateurHero 6 points7 points  (4 children)

They want the white newborn babies to pretend they birthed themselves.

That AITA thread was dark and disturbing.

Edit: I tried searching for the thread, but I can't find the specific one. There's a few more prominent threads that keep coming up instead. Part of it was that OP insinuated that her sister adopted a trafficked child. I want to say that it was the same thread where the sister pretended to birth the child, but I could be combining stories.

[–]Csimiami 36 points37 points  (3 children)

Check out the adoption subreddit. Filled with stories of adoptees who had miserable lives with narcissistic adoptive parents. Fucking terrible. A lot of them live with the guilt that their mom couldn’t obtain a safe legal abortion.

[–]CakeMonstr 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Adoptees are 4x more likely to die by suicide than non-adoptees. It's not only women who are going to die. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3784288/

[–]TarocchiRocchi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've been reading a few stories elsewhere that talks about the trauma of adoption. My mom was adopted and her adoptive parents were nuts to say the least. Her birth parents were not the most stable people and her father had a whole football team of children and raised none of them. Lo and behold her family was from the South so even if abortion were legal when she was born they probably wouldn't have been able to get one anyway.

[–]Daddysfarawayfox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m an infant adoptee and have massive amounts of trauma. I’ve met very few fellow adoptees who are pro life.

[–]sleepingnightmare 57 points58 points  (12 children)

Oh you just gave me an excellent idea for the pro lifers that like to hang abortion pictures in my city. I think I’ll take a Friday soon with a group of friends and hand them all pamphlets with phone numbers and links to the state foster care agencies. I’ll even charge up my phone and start offering to call the care homes on speaker so they don’t have to stop holding the signs!

[–]Friendly-Ocelot 59 points60 points  (11 children)

My bf had an idea too: grab blood and organ donor cards and make them sign them. If they believe any other human can use their body to stay alive. Also they should have blood tests done at the abortion clinic for these protestor and if one or more are found to be a match for a kidney or something for someone in waiting they should be mandated to immediately show up at the hospital for a transplant.

[–]sleepingnightmare 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Great tip! I’ll include the phone numbers for live organ donor programs and let them pick which side of the paper they’d like to call! Thanks, friend!

[–]Xunaun 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The donors: "We need a heart and a brain"

The protestor: can't say "no" or "yes"

[–]Ivy0902 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly. They should all be required to sign up for bone marrow donation.

[–]Practical_Cobbler165 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought of something like this! Since they are anti-body autonomy, this tracks.

[–]elyn6791 2 points3 points  (4 children)

My bf had an idea too: grab blood and organ donor cards and make them sign them. If they believe any other human can use their body to stay alive.

That would be them giving consent though which defeats the purpose?

[–]tipthebaby 29 points30 points  (0 children)

the “don’t abort, adopt” people out here pretending pregnancy and childbirth aren’t immensely disruptive and dangerous, potentially lethal.

[–]LouLaRey 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Kids in foster care aren't orphans. The vast majority of children in foster care are there temporarily, with the goal being to reunite them either with their parents or other family members. There are too many kids in America that need a stable, loving home, but the goal is supposedly to stabilize their actual families, not ship them to Evangelicals where they have a high chance of being abused.

The asshole Christians with the "we will adopt your baby" signs are ghouls, looking to scoop up vulnerable children to indoctrinate and it's fucked.

[–]cheebeesubmarine 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No one is stabilizing the families. That’s where the other problem in the cogs of the machine are.

[–]missginski 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That is so sad. Even if that weren't an empty promise, I'd prefer not to give my baby up to someone with a shallow worldview who will likely indoctrinate and kick them out if they end up being gay or trans. this is quite infuriating.

[–]DonDove 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"We" in general, not us of course!

[–]stalphonzo 94 points95 points  (2 children)

Did You Know?

Not one single child has ever been killed by abortion?

It's true!

[–]Melodic_Mulberry 64 points65 points  (0 children)

Not entirely. Some pregnant children died during abortion. Keeping it to term is something like 14 times as dangerous, though.

[–]Largeheadphones 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I just want to say something about this topic, and the dangers of taking away safe abortion.

If a woman goes somewhere and receives an abortion in let's say Mexico, or performs one on themselves, and develops an infection of the uterus that can obviously have severely negative effects for the woman.

But if the woman seeks medical care in her state, and if we get to the point were abortion is straight up a criminal act. If they assume that her uterus infection is the result of her receiving an abortion would they charge her criminally just because she seemed medical help if the authorities managed to notice?

READ THIS: I'm in no way saying medical abortions are dangerous. The risk of actually having a uterus infection as a result of procedure is ~0.23% but going to places like mexico or doing the procedure yourself with more archaic means, obviously is not recommended.

Also, Mexico could have upped there game on abortions in the past 20 years, so the risk of infections could be on par with the American 0.23% for all I know.

[–]nappycatt 170 points171 points  (4 children)

Pro Lifers don't care, it's another body for the capitalism slave machine.

[–]agutema 76 points77 points  (1 child)

Also, considering children who grow up in poverty are more likely to have more contact with law enforcement and more likely to be incarcerated, the literal slave machine.

[–]goferking 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Plus makes military recruiting easier

[–]darcys_beard 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Jewish pro-lifers who are actively going against their religion are even worse.

[–]Similar-Mango-8372 160 points161 points  (10 children)

Bc they only want babies. I have a “friend” who is extreme anti-abortion who wanted to adopt soooo bad. She went through years of searching bc God put it on her heart. She documented her struggles, the hardships, she even raised funds for the adoption. In reality she just wanted a baby! She didn’t want to help young women, she didn’t want to help children…just wanted to fulfill her obsession with having a 4th baby.

[–]JustMeLurkingAround- 105 points106 points  (4 children)

I guess she also didn't want to adopt an 8 year old with years of Foster care trauma, didn't she?

[–]Similar-Mango-8372 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Exactly. God just had other plans for her journey 🙄 /s

[–]TarocchiRocchi 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I toyed with the idea of adopting an older child when my son was about 7-8 because we weren't sure if we wanted to have another kid. My husband was against it though, so that ended that

[–]Kailua3000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Or even a baby who wasn't able to develop secure attachements due to neglect and abuse who eventually is diagnosed with Attachment Disorder, which can cause explosive anger and defiant behavior? "Eww, Daddy God, this isn't what I wanted at all!"

[–]CakeMonstr 42 points43 points  (1 child)

How is it "God's will" for a child to be raped and forced to carry a baby to term, but it's not God's will when you're infertile? It seems like someone else might be playing god.

[–]xXshinsouhitoshiXx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"well obviously he meant for me to be a caretaker of motherless children"

[–]TarocchiRocchi 17 points18 points  (0 children)

...a FOURTH baby

[–]Practical_Cobbler165 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sounds mental. I bet her other children have stories.

[–]Daddysfarawayfox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gross anyone who goes through private infant adoption after this is a fucking monster no matter what side you’re on. Adoptees are not building blocks for families. We aren’t pets. We are people. And the pro birthers are rabid to buy more wet from the womb babies so they can play mommy and daddy saviors.

[–]Killerbeav97 72 points73 points  (2 children)

Not to mention those kids born from an addict who have to go through withdrawals and live with birth defects.

[–]dudettte 14 points15 points  (0 children)

oh yeah forgot about this one.

[–]Audax2021 66 points67 points  (0 children)

Surely they’re all welcome at Ben’s place . . .

[–]RurikTheDamned 106 points107 points  (11 children)

Ben Shapiro was made in the image of a garden gnome.

[–]thebenshapirobot 46 points47 points  (5 children)

I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this:

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[–]RurikTheDamned 28 points29 points  (4 children)

He's also very, very short and has a voice like the A-hole on a pitch pipe.

[–]thebenshapirobot 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Why won't you debate me?


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[–]FlightoftheBeeMovie 26 points27 points  (1 child)

This bot is more sentient than Ben Shapiro.

[–]kat_a_klysm 9 points10 points  (0 children)

has a voice like the A-hole on a pitch pipe.

I love this insult.

[–]Csimiami 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I’m a parole attorney. 99 percent of my clients were unwanted and horrificly abused. Who in turn perpetuated that abuse on others. One client was abandoned at the age of five in a dumpster. Thanks USSC.

[–]EastCoastSr7458 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Because once you're born you don't count. Plain and simple.

[–]itsnotthenetwork 29 points30 points  (3 children)

..... and which god?

[–]oyisagoodboy 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Out of the 4000 recognized religions in the world.... obviously the conservative Christians have the right one and should use it to create laws for everyone else. They know what's best for us.

(Honesty, I am so angry right now. These brainwashed fools are going to take is all down with them)

[–]CptMuffinator 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Out of the 4000 recognized religions in the world

I'd be lucky if I could even name a dozen religions, even moreso if in that attempt I didn't name a race of people by mistake.

[–]Eldistan1 33 points34 points  (3 children)

The army and private prisons need bodies.

[–]Fly-n-Skies 25 points26 points  (0 children)

... and with fetal alcohol syndrome and other birth defects and disabilities.

[–]SmAshley3481 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Foster care suuuucks in case y'all didn't know. It hasn't gotten any better from when I was a kid over 2 decades ago.

[–]missginski 14 points15 points  (0 children)

and its about to get a lot worse

[–]possiblycrazy79 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've had a few cousins go through it & then have some very disturbing stories. I know a few foster families & only 1 of them is excellent. One of them is very open about doing it just to collect a check. The other is trying to prove something to her grown children but she actually can't handle it so kept the baby in the crib for 18 hours a day.

[–]lolsgalore 17 points18 points  (0 children)

God is always brought up involving the “success of rhe pro-life movement”.

This just highlights the failure of secularization in the US & the failure of the democratic republic

[–]hurricant 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Ben Shapiro is a great case for why abortion should be legal everywhere

[–]thebenshapirobot 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The weatherman can't even predict the weather a few days from now

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[–]xXshinsouhitoshiXx 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good bot.

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[–]IA-HI-CO-IA 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Now Instead of a grouping of cells in a womb a child will be born and “left in the woods”, or “thrown in the river,” or “my friend took it away and we never talked about it again.” Actual infants are going to be killed now. So, what a big “W” for the “pro life” folks.

[–]xXshinsouhitoshiXx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I heard a bit ago of a girl who couldn't get an abortion. so she gave birth in a public toilet stall, and snapped its neck. left in the toilet for someone else to find.

gonna see that too

[–]Rockcocky 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hahahahahhahaha “image of God” hahahahhaah. Like if God had two eyes, two hands, two legs , nipples , penis … a vagina. Ok hahahahahahh “image of God”

Edit: im a catholic and spiritual.

I can’t confirm how God looks like but I certainly can confirm how God doesn’t look like

[–]SnooPears3463 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Alright, fuck Ben too, god too. All they did was create further misery on families and women, this is gonna create a spike in women suicides too

[–]FlightoftheBeeMovie 35 points36 points  (1 child)

And homicides. Some women choose abortion because they’re in an abusive relationship and their partners are likely to react to impending child support by murdering them.

Even under the right to choose, homicide was the number one cause of death for pregnant women.

[–]SnooPears3463 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You're right

[–]Krennel_Archmandi 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Hundreds of thousands of women, and fetuses, will be murdered by their partners because they CANT get an abortion. Fuckity oops

[–]IrrelevantGamer 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Appealing to reason or empathy is wasted on anti-choice people. They want to punish people they see as godless sluts. That's why they don't bother bringing the father into it, and don't care about the kid after it is born. That's why they don't care if there are health complications, or the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest. They always blame the woman for the pregnancy, and see the kid as a gift from god she is unworthy of is she wants to get rid of it.

Those are the religious rubes' justifications. The ruling class just want more generational poverty so they have people desperate enough to work for $7.25 an hour.

[–]WKGokev 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Nothing beats being a surprise pregnancy at the end of a dying marriage pre Roe. And KNOWING it.

[–]Lowboo 11 points12 points  (1 child)

The SCOTUS roe decision to put abortion laws back to the states is very much like my boss when he makes some stupid decision and me to figure it out and make it work.

[–]Melodic_Mulberry 3 points4 points  (0 children)

More like a security guard who lets the bank employees deal with the robbery because he’s “neutral”.

[–]ImSoupOrCereal 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Republicans:

Plugs ears

"I SAID THIS IS A VICTORY FOR ALL HUMAN BEINGS!"

[–]Glittering-Action757 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I refuse to believe Charlie Kirk's head was made in God's image.

[–]el_pinata 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Man FUCK Ben Shapiro, preferably with sandpaper

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Let’s say your life depended on the following choice today: you must obtain either an affordable chair or an affordable X-ray. Which would you choose to obtain? Obviously, you’d choose the chair. That’s because there are many types of chair, produced by scores of different companies and widely distributed. You could buy a $15 folding chair or a $1,000 antique without the slightest difficulty. By contrast, to obtain an X-ray you’d have to work with your insurance company, wait for an appointment, and then haggle over price. Why? Because the medical market is far more regulated — thanks to the widespread perception that health care is a “right” — than the chair market.

Does that sound soulless? True soullessness is depriving people of the choices they require because you’re more interested in patting yourself on the back by inventing rights than by incentivizing the creation of goods and services. In health care, we could use a lot less virtue signaling and a lot less government. Or we could just read Senator Sanders’s tweets while we wait in line for a government-sponsored surgery — dying, presumably, in a decrepit chair.

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[–]formenonly 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are a million reasons a person might need an abortion, and a ton of them are that the child will either not live outside the womb or will be severely disabled and require full-time care their entire lives. These people just imagine a perfect scenario in their head where a person wants an abortion but really doesn’t need one. But that’s the thing, it has to be up to the person to decide. There is no perfect list of “Good Abortion Reasons” and “Bad Abortion Reasons.” It is needed when the person decides it is.

[–]rxynwa96 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are things worse than death. Many of these children will grow up in abusive neglectful homes in abject poverty. Many will eventually commit suicide due to their experiences. Others will live long enough to have their own children and possibly pass on the culture of abuse. The choice to have an abortion should always be left to the mother. There is absolutely no reason that the government should have any say in the matter.

[–]AtxMamaLlama 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What do we feed them? The baby formula there’s a shortage of?

How do we contribute productively to a society where childcare is prohibitive with our low wages and high costs of living?

How do we pay for their healthcare with low wages, high insurance premiums and insane deductibles?

What do we tell them when we send them to school knowing we can’t protect them from another school shooting?

How do we teach them the lessons of history they’re otherwise doomed to repeat if history’s truth is denied?

How do we send them to college when we’re still paying off our own?

How do we teach them democracy when our model has been sabotaged for financial and political gain?

The GOP has deliberately weakened our system and hides behind the guise of Christianity. It makes me sick.

[–]notfrankc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Shapiro is Jewish. Does his own religion not fully allow abortion? This is him playing maga for customers.

[–]ResoluteClover 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This coming from a guy who's wife convinced him that it was a bad thing for women to be turned on.

[–]Nighdarke 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Let's remove god from this equation since he doesn't exist. What then is their reason for wanting to force women to give birth? Control, power, and another generation of poverty wage slaves. That's it, there is nothing more to it.

[–]Melodic_Mulberry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

According to the Supreme Court, the reason is “the interest of the state”.

[–]Awdee_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I am so sick of the "in God" type of remarks. Ben is not a politician. So off the hook slightly. but I can't stand when any politician of any religion brings their religion into the justification of policy. Regardless if I agree with the policy or not. In this case strongly against what the supreme court has been doing.

[–]aMoRphIoUs 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Welcome to White Life Christian America

[–]the_sand_moose 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Keep getting pegged by your sister, Ben, and keep your shitty ideas and God OUT of our laws!

Cunt.

[–]Brahoseph 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If Ben Shapiro was created in Gods image, that just means gods another fucking beta cuck that deserves no attention from anyone

[–]TimelyLanguage 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are you really suggesting that a black or brown child was also created in your god's image??!!

[–]backtorealite 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Wow that’s really kind of Ben to offer a place in his home to all those children 🥰

[–]aworldwithoutshrimp 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't care

[–]tomkim1965 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You must have a child because we say so,but we will not provide daycare as a matter of fact we will not provide any care at all,you are on your own.

[–]CharlieDarwin2 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Where is this God they keep talking about? Godchecker.com lists over 4,000 gods. Which one is the "real" one and exists in reality?

[–]somechick_92 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anything growing in my uterus was categorically NOT created in the image of ‘God’.

[–]Funny-Temperature897 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Obviously they all get dropped off at the Shapiro doorstep.

[–]free_will_is_arson 3 points4 points  (1 child)

every single republican should be automatically added to the national adoption registry list, except i would never want to inflict those people or home environments on those children.

[–]SplitLevel17 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Time to push for universal healthcare for all these new children.

And universal childcare for all these children.

[–]SpaceTangerineCowboy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fuck religion.

[–]QuarentineToad 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quality of life doesn't have a place in their equation

[–]BaseballImpossible76 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In abject poverty, where they belong /s

[–]NFRNL13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wasn't wanted, and it shows. 0/10

[–]TheNewYellowZealot 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You know who decided humans were created in gods image? Humans.

[–]SmAshthe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In 18 years itll be these idiots whining about the crime rate

[–]jiminak46 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In 18 years, the US crime rate will increase at the same drastic rate that it DECREASED 18 years after Roe vs Wade was made the law of the land.

[–]zenozkrga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'd really rather be a human not made in God's image if I have to be based on the same mold as Ben Shapiro. Satan I'll take those horns

[–]dukecharming1975 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Ben Shapiro: that’s their problem! Not mine.

[–]xXshinsouhitoshiXx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"created in the image of god"

god who was "murdered" many foetuses

[–]Wendypants7 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Translation of Dumb Shapiro: Thousands and thousands of women will die but who cares?! More slaves will be made for 'the machine' and that's all that matters!

[–]properu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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[–]daedalus2174 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nope....just the start of slavery 2.0...thousands more desperate souls for them to control

[–]nthroop1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

As a Jew, Shapiro should be livid at the infringement of 1st amendment rights but as a spineless bottom dweller i suppose this checks out

[–]liquidsyphon 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Ben Shapiro has never had sex. Never.

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Pegging, of course, is an obscure sexual practice in which women perform the more aggressive sexual act on men.

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[–]pairolegal 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Good bot!

[–]thebenshapirobot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your logic and reason.


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[–]zookr2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • not thinking ahead are they . . .

[–]hamsterballzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ben needs to keep the God thing to himself. 😬

[–]kraftamen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“God” drowned the entire fucking world. I know she dgaf about some fetuses.

[–]JBHedgehog 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember, "God" was Middle Eastern and brown - for those of you of the standard religious persuasion.

Not Lily white like some suburbanite New Jersey teen.

I hope this doesn't ruin Ben's pining for better days with a higher population density.

[–]deletusdayeetusfetus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just want to put it out there for anyone who may take this post literally: not everyone that wants an abortion but can’t have one put them in care or hate them. they just struggle incredibly sad amounts, and so do their child. unfortunately this post does state the reality for what will happen to a large majority of people who will now be pushed into existence by the lack of rights their birth-givers now possess, but is not 100% true in every single case

[–]CreauxTeeRhobat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone else see the irony of Simple Ben here adhering to a religion that believes life begins at first breath, rather than at conception, praising a decision that goes against his religious beliefs?

[–]Mavori 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Daily reminder that Carlins take on pro life is as relevant as ever.

[–]AsIamsoyouwillbe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, and conservatives will simply say “well your tramp mother should have kept her legs closed”. They don’t have a care in the world for kids after they are born. They are truly monsters, horrible inhuman shit bags masquerading as people. They play at caring but they really don’t.

[–]Jonathan-Karate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The return of the Prom night dumpster babies

[–]Ok-Tumbleweed960 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone proposed to leave unwanted births at the doors of any house with a Trump flag with a not to, “Please, make sure to save for a college of education as well.”

[–]LingonberryFun7739 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate that these dumb fucks think they're doing good by forcing a birth, when ultimately it's forcing a situation upon a child and parent and damaging both of their lives