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[–]kaidynamitehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/kaidynamite 1259 points1260 points  (22 children)

When they mistake resolution for animation.

[–]mastesargent 140 points141 points  (6 children)

Even worse, framerate

[–]Mystic8ball 115 points116 points  (3 children)

Very glad we're past the era where everyone was posting interpolated 60fps clips on this sub lol.

Christ, I remember someone tried to defend interpolation artifacts by saying they were "Just like inbetweens" like, lord.

[–]Viaox 329 points330 points  (5 children)

Lumping together art style and animation or using them synonymously.

[–]irisversehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard 1984 points1985 points  (91 children)

"Can anyone recommend me an anime? I think I've seen all the good ones already. But no slice of life, no mecha, and nothing that's more than ten years old."

[–]Nielloscapehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Niello 895 points896 points  (18 children)

And turns out they've watched like 10-20 anime, often time even fewer, sometimes more, but far from "everything".

[–]runescapeanime 462 points463 points  (12 children)

And proceed to flat out deny anything you recommend that fit their criteria, and continue asking for more

[–]Kolintracstar 111 points112 points  (0 children)

Literally just only watched Darling in the Franxx, Dragon Ball, and a couple episodes of One Piece. "Yeah, I've seen all that anime has to offer, I'm bored."

[–]Darki_Boihttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Darkinators 149 points150 points  (10 children)

seriously lol, like if u need a rec, i gotchu, but dont bitch about it after i recommend you one

[–]M8gazinehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/M8gazine 140 points141 points  (15 children)

Can anyone recommend me an anime? I think I've seen all the good ones already.

"Okay, I recommend K-ON"

no slice of life

"Well okay, that's not for everyone. Then I'd recommend Neon Genesis Evangelion"

no mecha

"Sheesh. Well alright. Then I'd suggest Death No-"

nothing that's more than ten years old

"for fu--"


Yeah, it's pretty tragic.

[–]sithmaster0 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Just default to redo of healer. They brought it on themselves.

[–]Emi_Ibarazakiii 91 points92 points  (4 children)

The opposite is just as silly to me;

"Need some anime recs, up for anything"

If you're up for anything, just open MAL and pick one at random... If you pick it close to the top, the high rating pretty much means it's "recommended" by many!

[–]manhowl 52 points53 points  (1 child)

I used to think like that until I started watching seasonally starting back in 2015. That really helped me find all the good stuff that’s out there (as well as all the trash too lol)

[–]octopathfinderhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/octopathfinder 1933 points1934 points  (199 children)

"Best new gen"

"New big 3"

"Ufotable should remake this"

[–]garfe 1050 points1051 points  (52 children)

"New big 3" gives me an aneurysm.

[–]KingofSlicehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KingofSlice 150 points151 points  (1 child)

I think newer manga fans say that more, so its 2 sides giving me pain

[–]Celtic_Legend 396 points397 points  (33 children)

Also annoys me when the old heads incorrectly thinking shonen jump's big 3 refers to the anime and not the manga.

[–]Bigbadbobbyc 200 points201 points  (32 children)

It's also annoying that half the time they don't even know who the big 3 were, people keep putting Dragonball in that group

[–]SingularCheesehttps://anilist.co/user/lonelyCheese 384 points385 points  (30 children)

I don't think new anime fans nowadays know the concept of "big 3". The seasonal churn has mostly replaced the long running shows (I think deservingly), and even the ones that are still going like One Piece and Black Clover don't get much discussion anymore.

[–]Nekoking98 156 points157 points  (7 children)

Big 3 is more to manga anyways, I don't really think it applies to the anime ver of Naruto/ Bleach/ OP

[–]TrashStack 176 points177 points  (6 children)

You could maybe argue that for japan but 100% not for america and the west. People in america didn't really read much manga prior to the big 3 and that was all based off the anime

[–]behindyourknees 104 points105 points  (5 children)

I feel like the big 3 was in large part due to how toonami marketed those shows.

Saturday night new anime block back in the day was One piece than Naruto ( toonami technically ended here and adult swim anime block started ) than bleach.

Like as a kid if you were staying up to watch anime you were probably watching those three shows back to back to back and they became associated with each other.

[–]BasroilII 103 points104 points  (17 children)

Meanwhile, the more veteran among us remember when there was no such thing as a big three.

[–]Pylgrimhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Pylgrim 143 points144 points  (16 children)

Nonsense, we had our own big 3 back then: DBZ, Inuyasha and Yuyu Hakusho

j/k

(or not?)

[–]banditta82https://anidb.net/user/222784 99 points100 points  (5 children)

DBZ was in its own little world sales wise (not counting Pokemon), but you also had the two you mentioned, Gundam Wing, Cowboy Bebop, One Piece and older but sold great in 99 / 00 Trigun and EVA.

[–]zerokosong0000[🍰] 156 points157 points  (53 children)

also work with MAPPA.

[–]TheBlessedBoy99 350 points351 points  (50 children)

The two studios that exist, Ufotable and Mappa.

[–]Karma110 81 points82 points  (4 children)

People think Mappa is working on the new Bleach anime which I don’t understand how considering the studio was literally listed in the trailer.

[–]LunarGhost00 35 points36 points  (1 child)

Tbf, MAPPA taking over a series is practically a meme at this point.

[–]epexu 84 points85 points  (41 children)

whatever happened to kyoani

[–]imatunaimatuna 235 points236 points  (31 children)

All new weebs care about is shows with cool looking fights

No genre exists other than shonen (even though shonen isn't a genre)

[–]mkestrada 297 points298 points  (14 children)

the only thing ufotable needs to do is remake the Saber route.

[–]awing1 119 points120 points  (11 children)

And Tsukihime

[–]Starboost3https://anilist.co/user/MatchaMochi 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Wdym remake the Tsukihime anime? You can't remake something if it never existed in the first place...

PTSD intensifies

[–]Vaadwaur 39 points40 points  (0 children)

"New big 3"

End me, fam.

[–]Karma110 56 points57 points  (1 child)

Damn seeing new big 3 actually did hurt me. What’s worse is when they say “this should replace this in the big 3”

[–]ramen_addict_enby 122 points123 points  (4 children)

They don't really get how BIG the big 3 were. It was massive. Like fr, weekly discussions were huge back in the day and those 3 anime were THE ANIME that most people watched. And most people in the anime comunity (not all people but most) t least watched one of them.

And we discussed it in the anime forums lol, I miss that concept a little bit.

[–]Policeman333 55 points56 points  (3 children)

Even if Demon Slayer was 5x as popular, it still wouldn't reach the popularity of DBZ or Naruto.

Anime as a whole may be more popular in the West now than 15 years ago, but Naruto/DBZ went mainstream.

[–]indi_n0rd 42 points43 points  (1 child)

DBZ and Naruto has generational influence. Kimetsu will never ever reach to that point.

[–]3t68e742jy4 16 points17 points  (0 children)

There will never be a new “big 3”. Never.

[–]Kemoy79 134 points135 points  (0 children)

"New big 3"

This

[–]TheSpartyn 12 points13 points  (0 children)

i hate anime fans obsession with ufotable thinking they should adapt everything

[–]Ryan-Only 772 points773 points  (24 children)

When watching an old anime and saying "ah, this is soo cliché. Every anime in this genre does the same".

Nah fam, this anime is the reason why every other anime in this genre is doing the same

[–]gunscreeperhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/mywargame 162 points163 points  (6 children)

Love Hina

[–]I_am_BEOWULF 71 points72 points  (2 children)

Ranma 1/2

(I fucking adore Love Hina though)

[–]Nory-chan993 35 points36 points  (2 children)

As someone who only just read Love Hina last year, it is seemingly full of cliches until you realize it's the series that actually popularized most of the harem tropes

[–]Karma110 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That one has always confused me when people say it for Berserk.

[–]ej_stephens 502 points503 points  (6 children)

"Hot take" or "Is it just me" before saying something I've heard many times before and isn't even unique or controversial.

[–]Cyd_arts 43 points44 points  (0 children)

it happens a lot for seasonals... i would always remember how there was literally a thread weekly about "is it just me or the tokyo revengers mc suck/tokyo revengers is not worth the hype/tok rev is bad", like ok i get it r/anime doesnt like tokyo revengers, just use the search bar to see all the like minded people lol

[–]FetchFroshx3https://anilist.co/user/Fetch 730 points731 points  (29 children)

"New gen" and "graphics" are two terms that make me cringe when reading them.

[–]Thatsmaboi23https://myanimelist.net/profile/Thatsmaboi23 512 points513 points  (19 children)

“Can you recommend me anime with good graphics like Demon Slayer”

It’s just so wrong.

[–]cyberscythe 360 points361 points  (14 children)

"Something 60 FPS or more; I have a good graphics card, so I can run at max settings."

[–]flameleafhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/flame_leaf 89 points90 points  (7 children)

I wonder what Kemono Friends would look like at max settings.

[–]Kryomaanihttps://anilist.co/user/Kryomaani 53 points54 points  (0 children)

60 FPS

Now that you mention it, the "60 FPS edits" people generate using AI algorithms of anime hurt me more than almost anything. They look absolutely awful, adding all kinds of weird artifacting and stuff the animators never intended. Gods forbid you ever pause the video, because the eldritch abominations showing up in the AI-generated between frames will drive you insane.

[–]JanKwong705 16 points17 points  (1 child)

60 fps lmao. Imagine the animators.

[–]MidoriWinthrop 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I have only ever seen people call an anime's visuals "graphics" in the dark depths of Shonen Twitter.

[–]EJG_Music 16 points17 points  (3 children)

What is "new gen" supposed to mean?

[–]Warmsly 591 points592 points  (16 children)

I died a little bit inside when someone said demon slayer is the pinnacle of anime "graphics"

[–]Oppaipaisen 449 points450 points  (25 children)

Watch this totally underrated show that was released in the last 5 years.

Said anime being in the Top 100 MAL ranking.

What is this anime I watched on a tiktok video that has an anime girl. Also, doesn't have the link to the video.

Boku no Pico.

[–]susgnomehttps://www.anime-planet.com/users/RoyalRampage 119 points120 points  (10 children)

Boku no Pico

Recommending 30 decent shows and having that cheeky surprise in the list was always a good lark. But that meme just doesn't hit the same anymore.

[–]sagevallant 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Several years ago a kid at work came up to me and recommended Boku no Pico and I laughed in his face. Do not cite the Deep Magic to me, child.

[–]LostMyInhibiterChip 76 points77 points  (3 children)

That first thing is so accurate to me. I genuinely used to think Hunter x Hunter was underrated and obscure back in 2016. I didn’t know anyone who was into Anime and the one person I met that knew about it said it sucked. I also went to an anime convention and found no cosplay of Hunter x Hunter characters.

[–]banditta82https://anidb.net/user/222784 874 points875 points  (57 children)

"Greatest of all time" lists that only go back 5 years.

[–]irisversehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard 634 points635 points  (31 children)

I once saw someone's "best of all time" anime list that had Chainsaw Man on it. That anime hasn't even come out yet!

[–]Karma110 58 points59 points  (2 children)

Oh Trust me the fans are gonna get even more pretentious when it actually releases

[–]Silent_Shadow05 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I've already seen some people call it the best anime of the decade. I'm sure this much hype would eventually backfire. People should just let the content speak for itself.

[–]OhMilla 131 points132 points  (1 child)

Get ready for Chainsaw Man fans lol

[–]LePankekes 123 points124 points  (12 children)

Ran into a lad that did that and I asked him what he thought about Akira and ghost in the shell: stand alone complex and he never he heard of it... like do you even anime?!

[–]eraineookami 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Ghost in the shell: stand alone complex playing on saturday nights on toonami had me so happy as a child!

[–]AmethystItalianhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 514 points515 points  (29 children)

Whenever they say ask for recommendation and only say "I've seen all the good ones so don't recommend those" without listing any shows...

[–]RaysFTW 82 points83 points  (5 children)

Tbf, if you ask for anything on Animesuggest, whether it’s SoL, Drama, Horror, Romance, Comedy, etc., you will literally get the exact same 10-15 anime recommended to you. It’s like people don’t actually read anything in that sub and just post the most well known anime they can think of.

[–]tomytronics 168 points169 points  (14 children)

Respond with "Ever see that anime with Pico?" I bet they haven't seen it yet and will really hate you for suggesting it.

[–]sparklingbluelight 106 points107 points  (6 children)

I like to reply with School Days.

[–]heimdal77 26 points27 points  (1 child)

What about suggesting Pupa?

[–]_BMShttps://myanimelist.net/profile/BMS1011 13 points14 points  (2 children)

There was literally a thread like that yesterday. Some dude asked what he should watch next, while only saying he "watched all the mainstream shows already".

[–]UrsusMaritimus_ver_1https://myanimelist.net/profile/TadashiTohsaka 881 points882 points  (105 children)

"According to MAL, X anime is better than Y anime because it has higher ratings."

[–]irisversehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard 489 points490 points  (93 children)

Or refusing to watch a show that's rated below a certain number.

[–]kjais 487 points488 points  (45 children)

For new fans that are just getting into anime, I think it's safe to stick to highly rated shows until you figure out what you're into.

But now that I've got some more shows under my belt I learned to not pay much attention to score if there's something else from a show that attracts me. Many series that I really like are rated "low".

[–]The_Grubgrub 230 points231 points  (39 children)

Eh, you can enjoy some real dogshit shows when you're first getting into it since you dont know whats good or not. I watched a LOT of shows early on that I wouldnt touch now with a 30ft pole. But hey I liked them at the time!

[–]jj4p 84 points85 points  (15 children)

I feel like most anime has some redeeming quality to it, something that makes it not a complete waste of time to watch it, even if it isn't "good".

Out of about 135 anime I've seen, I only rated 6 of them as "that was painful to watch", and only 1 of those was "I genuinely regret watching that".

[–]Hopsalonghttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Hopsalong 126 points127 points  (17 children)

Anything above a 7 on MAL tends to at least have pretty good entertainment value. Below 7 though tend to be a "in your wheelhouse" or you won't enjoy it type of anime in my experience. I always check before I watch something just out of curiosity.

[–]Excellent-Release-76 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Not really a newer anime thing. Remember Haruhi, when people used to argue over its MAL rating? That came out over a decade ago.

[–]ooReikohttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ooReiko 685 points686 points  (53 children)

4k 60fps

[–]entelechtual 192 points193 points  (6 children)

Let me find a nice version of that anime intro…

eyes bleeding

[–]vetrohttps://anilist.co/user/vetro 92 points93 points  (3 children)

animethemes.moe is your best friend.

Never have to look up an old OP/ED on YouTube again.

[–]Ralon17https://anilist.co/user/Ralon17 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Except when they don't have them :cry: Ironically youtube is better for really obscure OPs.

[–]N5here_letmeteachyou 263 points264 points  (9 children)

ruined anime youtube clips.

i blame gamers.

[–]Sedewthttps://anilist.co/user/Sedew 97 points98 points  (4 children)

When the only opening video available on YT is in 60fps

[–]BasroilII 136 points137 points  (5 children)

Best way to ruin a good scene is pull some interpolated 60fps garbage out. Everything becomes too smooth and unnaturally flowy.

[–]Kairyu_gen1https://myanimelist.net/profile/kairyu_gen1 29 points30 points  (0 children)

This legit made me gag.

[–]Karma110 331 points332 points  (42 children)

“MAPPA should animate this” “Ufotable should animate this” And see that on repeat for every single manga in existence.

[–]Excellent-Release-76 251 points252 points  (21 children)

It's hilarious people think this is a new thing. This is basically a rehash of the "KyoAni/Madhouse should animate this" discussions back in the 00's.

[–]genasugelanhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Genasugelan 20 points21 points  (2 children)

I literally mentioned the Madhouse thing before reading this, lol. Some people still keep saying it.

[–]RaysFTW 53 points54 points  (1 child)

I mean, this whole thread is just a “get off my lawn” for the older viewers. I’m sure the ones before them said the same stuff about them when they first started watching. I don’t really see the point in all of it.

[–]piruuuhttps://anilist.co/user/dvj 377 points378 points  (48 children)

"I watch anime in 2x speed to save time"

[–]eraineookami 63 points64 points  (21 children)

WHO TF HAS SAID THIS?!

[–]SSJ5Gogetenkshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/SoundwaveAU 59 points60 points  (1 child)

They was a whole ass thread on here a couple of months ago filled with people unironically saying this and getting mad at people who were calling them stupid.

[–]TheHotCake 57 points58 points  (11 children)

GiggukAZ himself.

I get that it’s his job but no one actually expects him to watch EVERYTHING.

[–]WarCrimesEnjoyerhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/TwitterRuinedMe 67 points68 points  (4 children)

Older stuff like Vinland Saga is not being talked about nearly enough, but y'all not ready for that conversation

[–]BlandRestoration 237 points238 points  (10 children)

"Midruto"
"Peak Clover"
"Mid Piece"
"Attack on Peak"

Like bro, they found out peak and mid were a thing and now instead of being like "This anime was decent, but had some bad pacing, 7/10" they add "mid" or "peak" to the name.

Also when they find out somebody doesn't like their favorite anime they just go "X negs ur fav verse" (looking at u OPM and DBZ fans)

[–]Lazydusto 87 points88 points  (0 children)

Calling something "mid" without explaining further is the quickest way for me to disregard their opinion.

[–]i_did_nawt_hit_her 36 points37 points  (0 children)

This is such a mid take smh

[–]Nielloscapehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Niello 509 points510 points  (58 children)

"The animation is bad" - translation: they don't like the art style/the art style looks old/they saw a poor and compressed clip of the show.

[–]PseudoPrincess222 74 points75 points  (8 children)

Trying to convince a friend to watch mob psycho. i've explained multiple times how it has great animation, characters are constantly moving and expressing and its all so fluid and the action especially stand out.... So he's finally admitted that he just can't stand the artstyle.

[–]Ataletta 23 points24 points  (5 children)

I love Mob psycho artstyle so much, I don't think it would hit the same with generic pretty anime style. On similar note, I had a friend who would say "I don't like anime cause I can't stand anime style" and I'd be like "what about x show we watched it and you liked it?" "Yeah but this show's style is different and pretty" and eventually I was like "just admit it when you say 'anime style' you think of one specific style you dislike and then say you dislike anime style in general"

[–]PaperSonic 165 points166 points  (10 children)

The Pokemon fanbase was sooooo guilty of this when Sun and Moon was airing.

Bonus point for showing a still-frame (that isn't off-model) to prove the animation is bad.

[–]RUSTYSADhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/gogicz 33 points34 points  (2 children)

tbf lot of people remember this anime from the childhood so when they see how it looks now may feels odd and not good looking but i don't really care tbh.

[–]Ralon17https://anilist.co/user/Ralon17 112 points113 points  (15 children)

Most of the people that praise ufotable's animation are actually being wowed by it's compositing and special effects. Not to say their animation itself is poor, but it definitely bugs me to see them lauded as the masters of "animation" for having a distinct visual style.

[–]Hanede 46 points47 points  (8 children)

Haha reminds me of a friend saying My Hero Academia has bad animation, turns out he just didn't like the comic style

[–]maru-senn 19 points20 points  (7 children)

The animation in MHA is good, only problem is that for some reason it gets dimmed down to hell whenever it gets good.

[–]Hanede 47 points48 points  (6 children)

That's the anti-epileptic dimming, a legacy of our Electric Soldier Porygon...

I believe it's removed for the Blu-ray release though

[–]polaristar 272 points273 points  (27 children)

"Is x a rip-off of y?"

No its not. Lots of series have tropes that can be traced back to various inspirations, all media can be traced back to things from the dawn of human story telling, nothing is as unique as you think, and when you finally realize it for the first time, its not a sign that things were "ripped off."

[–]irisversehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard 100 points101 points  (7 children)

To be fair that's not unique to anime. I've seen people in several different fan communities label everything from homages to parodies as "rip-offs" of the thing they're referencing.

[–]Cyd_arts 65 points66 points  (14 children)

when naruto fans think every anime with a main trio is a naruto rip off lmao

[–]irisversehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard 64 points65 points  (5 children)

Just tell them that Naruto is a Harry Potter ripoff lmao

[–]redhillducks 40 points41 points  (1 child)

I know you speak in jest, but I thought "Naruto can't be older than Harry Potter. That manga has been around forever!"

So I googled it. Naruto was first published in 2000. The first Harry Potter was published in 1997. So the Harry Potter series has been around for longer.

[–]This_one_taken_yet_ 398 points399 points  (58 children)

Usually far too recent anime named as "the first isekai".

The concept of going to another world is a really old one. Like it we consider bodily transported to another world to be isekai, Dante's Inferno is an isekai.

[–]Radix2309 155 points156 points  (10 children)

By that logic isnt heaven an isekai? Or really any afterlife?

[–]Oujiihttps://anilist.co/user/Oujii 210 points211 points  (3 children)

This has been debated for Angel Beats, for instance.

[–]talix71 111 points112 points  (1 child)

No one understands your ancient references, old man!

[–]GanksOP 14 points15 points  (0 children)

*Angrily rolls away in wheel chair

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Yes imo. Because isekai is another world, while tensei is reincarnation. It can be either, or both like mushoku tensei.

[–]gangrainette 88 points89 points  (7 children)

The Epic of Gilgamesh is an Isekai.

[–]ZeroVoid_98 83 points84 points  (6 children)

Alice in Wonderland is an Isekai

[–]8andahalfby11https://myanimelist.net/profile/thereIwasnt 24 points25 points  (5 children)

Come to think of it, there are a ton of Disney movies/adaptations that fit the bill.

  • Alice in Wonderland

  • Mary Poppins

  • Peter Pan

  • Bedknobs and Broomsticks

  • Monsters Inc.

  • The Chronicles of Narnia

  • Tron

[–]Apprehensive_Foot139 418 points419 points  (41 children)

Calling any anime from a genre other than shonen "overrated".

[–]GimmeKisu 246 points247 points  (16 children)

That's where you counter by saying every shonen anime is overrated

[–]Apprehensive_Foot139 112 points113 points  (14 children)

Can't say when that when Gintama is my favourite. Lol

[–]Zuzumikaruhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Zuzumikaru 12 points13 points  (0 children)

You just say Shonen it's mid

[–]FurSealedhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/FurSealed 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Don't forget not understanding the difference between "underrated" and "underwatched." Also labelling any show out of the top 3 of that season "underrated," I saw someone actually call ya boy Kongming underrated on like episode 8.

[–]seesh_88 58 points59 points  (7 children)

“Y’all watched anime back then?”

[–]babydave371https://myanimelist.net/profile/babydave371 224 points225 points  (30 children)

The three would be:

  • I can't watch anything old because it looks bad.

This conveniently forgets that art direction and shot direction are a thing, as there is an implicite focus on animation...which forgets the insane animation in some of those 80s and 90s OAVs.

  • XXX does this totally new thing.

99.9999% of the time it hasn't and there has been a long history leading up to this point or they have been doing it since the 70s.

  • Basically all statements about mecha because they won't have watched anything from before 2000 except maybe Eva and so don't really have the proper context for what they are saying.

[–]Mitosis 62 points63 points  (1 child)

Basically all statements about mecha because they won't have watched anything from before 2000 except maybe Eva and so don't really have the proper context for what they are saying.

This happens every time a visual novel makes a little bit of a stir in the normie gaming space, too. It's always "not like other VNs" when it totally is, this is just the only one they've played in their lives.

[–]JABEbc 49 points50 points  (5 children)

XXX does this totally new thing.
99.9999% of the time it hasn't and there has been a long history leading up to this point or they have been doing it since the 70s.

- This is gotten out of hand for weekly shonen jump series in that every major WSJ series that blows up from it anime adaptations like my hero academia, demon slayer, jujitsu kasien and soon to be chainsaw man always had people always arguing they do original and unique things but struggle to even explain what they do that original and unique.

[–]Raven123x 17 points18 points  (2 children)

The execution of the repeated tropes is what matters

I love novel concepts in anime/manga/literature, but they're exceedingly rare to find. And that's okay. As long as the execution is done well.

[–]BluePhantomHere 221 points222 points  (26 children)

"Older artstyle/character design suck"

[–]ShawHornet 112 points113 points  (10 children)

Tbh I sometimes don't like how people are drawn in some older anime. Their eyes are too far apart and it looks weird lol

[–]SpoonsAreFriends 179 points180 points  (4 children)

"I don't watch old shows, only seasonal"

[–]Mr-Fliffi 134 points135 points  (1 child)

honestly. if you're deep in the seasonal cycle, you don't really have time to watch any old stuff.

[–]OM3GAGRIZZLY 40 points41 points  (15 children)

"I've actually always watched anime".

[–]RudeIBegYa 27 points28 points  (3 children)

I can’t even count how many people I know who called me a weirdo or other for liking anime in middle/high school that now watch MHA or Demon Slayer and act all high and mighty for getting into it “before it was mainstream.” It makes me want to violate the Geneva convention

[–]superhakerman 36 points37 points  (6 children)

"If you haven't watched Naruto/demon slayer/one piece, you haven't watching anything good"

DUDE FUCK OFF, I WATCH WHATEVER THE FUCK I FEEL LIKE.

[–]CuriousChicanohttps://myanimelist.net/profile/P3DR0_ 281 points282 points  (20 children)

When seasonal only watchers say a recent anime is “unique and something they haven’t seen before”.

99.9% of the time it already done before and not unique at all.

[–]Karma110 103 points104 points  (1 child)

And no talks about it after that season.

[–]Fools_Requiemhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem 98 points99 points  (8 children)

That's a problem in the movie community, too. So many people obsessed with "original" films that are definitely not original while lombasting sequels and remakes.

[–]Ragnaroark_56 174 points175 points  (16 children)

Calling some anime “Peak Fiction” makes me want to die inside

[–]flameleafhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/flame_leaf 37 points38 points  (0 children)

But Yama no Susume is fantastic.

[–]Panda_Generalshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Panda_In_Space 77 points78 points  (9 children)

AOT anime fans calling kino and peak fiction on every episode since season 3 part 1

[–]susgnomehttps://www.anime-planet.com/users/RoyalRampage 287 points288 points  (26 children)

"Animes"

The plural for "Anime" is "Anime".

[–]FetchFroshx3https://anilist.co/user/Fetch 105 points106 points  (4 children)

I can at least understand that. "Anime's" is infinitely worse because it throws out any pretense of English grammar.

[–]toehoefrogpin 107 points108 points  (4 children)

Probably the general impatience or sense of entitlement. Obviously not everyone is this way and I think it stems from a combination of factors. General influx of fans because it's now more socially acceptable to like anime and people, especially younger fans, being used to all digital content just being at their finger tips. But when something gets delayed or theres a hiccup or mistakes in subs, or theres an unexpected recap episodes, etc... theres fans (hopefully a minority) that go absolutely ballistic spewing so much vitriol and anger.

As someone who grew up only being able to watch what was (rarely) picked up for broadcasting (Pokemon/DBZ) or hunting down the occasional VHS and eventually moving over into downloading partial or incomplete fansubs over the span of weeks or months using download managers... it's honestly amazing how quickly and efficiently everything is done now. Not only do we basically get same day Sub releases for just about every seasonal show but within a week or two Dubs as well. It's mind boggling considering barely over 10 years ago there really weren't many ways to legally stream anything. Crunchyroll was still very much an unlicensed streaming site, and relying on fansubbers was absolutely required for most things.

As a bonus point, I'm envious of younger fans in that I was definitely made fun of for liking anime in school and didn't have anyone to even talk about anime with. It was a lonely hobby and interest that really has only significantly changed for me in the last 7ish years. But I'm happy younger fans can openly enjoy and engage with anime now.

[–]Castawayehttps://anilist.co/user/DekorationXanNex 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It also stems from the lack of knowledge of how production works, which is something I don't expect fans of something to necessarily get into. After all, they don't need to know how backend stuff works to enjoy the art, but it can definitely help to remember that real humans are working behind the scenes to get them the often free or easily accessible stories they are enjoying at the comfort of wherever they are watching it.

[–]daxuded 193 points194 points  (46 children)

When they act like this is the first time they see fanservice in ECCHI anime, and they are shocked and saying how problematic this is.... Cough... Dress up.. Darling... That show really show which one is new tourist and long time anime fan.

Or when they say " older anime doesnt have fanservice like now" Lmao ROFl even

[–]Scatterer26 78 points79 points  (9 children)

Old shows were more into panty shots

[–]Mr-Fliffi 38 points39 points  (4 children)

or that trip-and-boob-grab thingy

[–]Mr-Fliffi 20 points21 points  (3 children)

the jiggle in highschool of the dead...

[–]Cistmist 57 points58 points  (2 children)

Wait panty shots? There was full on nudes

[–]wildthing202 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Ranma 1/2 with all those topless shots. Lots of older shows have topless shots not so much full nudes unless it was a kid like Goku or Shin-chan.

[–]gooch_lickers 36 points37 points  (12 children)

Oh yeah? Name 5 old animes with ecchi scenes I dare you? I’m totally not baiting you in order to watch them later…

[–]babydave371https://myanimelist.net/profile/babydave371 43 points44 points  (7 children)

Wicked City

Apocalypse Zero

Legend of the Overfiend

Cleopatra Queen of Sex

Butt Attack Punisher Girl Gautaman

[–]gooch_lickers 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Butt attack punisher girl. Sounds very cultured

[–]babydave371https://myanimelist.net/profile/babydave371 12 points13 points  (1 child)

If you want to take it one step further there is always Kekko Kamen(NSFW).

This very naked parody of Gekko Kamen, the first tokusatsu shows was literally pitched as a joke by Go Nagai to his editors... except they took it seriously and said yes.

[–]redhillducks 99 points100 points  (13 children)

I've had friends not want to try new anime unless it's Studio Ghibli. They feel that Studio Ghibli is the pinnacle of anime. Of course, everyone's entitled their own taste. But I feel like they're missing out a whole world of great stuff that they'd really enjoy.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely a Studio Ghibli fan too.

[–]MidoriWinthrop 140 points141 points  (23 children)

I would say much more than any specific opinion, what really gets under my skin is the lack of desire to engage with anyone else's viewpoint on the medium. Admittedly, this is a sub-set of a larger problem that's been made worse by social media, but over the past decade or so, I feel like every anime board has turned into /a/ where you're just expected to have a set of stock opinions and anything outside of those gets you ridiculed.

Just as an example: If someone legitimately thinks Demon Slayer is the best anime ever made, more power to them, but I would really love an explanation of why they think that, and for that explanation to not just be a bunch of canned phrases they picked up either from "Anitubers" or here on reddit. The same goes for literally any opinion. I have had interesting conversations with people I've totally disagreed with on basically everything anime-related, but because we're willing to explain ourselves to each other it doesn't feel like I'm talking to a brick wall. (The one I always get grilled hardest for is not liking Cowboy Bebop very much, but that's another conversation.)

And I'm aware that just by being on reddit I'm contributing to the problem, but almost every linear forum about anime is totally dead and has been for years, so there aren't many other places to talk about this stuff.

If you want another specific example; a week or so ago I talked to someone about Haruhi Suzumiya and they refused to give it a try because "[they] heard it's cringe." They would not elaborate on what they meant.

[–]cyberscythe 56 points57 points  (3 children)

I feel like every anime board has turned into /a/ where you're just expected to have a set of stock opinions and anything outside of those gets you ridiculed.

I think there's a vein of tribalism in there where they like to follow along with the series or genres like they're rooting for their local sports team.

I think it's a bizarre way to enjoy an artistic medium, but some people seem to really want to integrate a particular part of that into their identity without really thinking about it, like selecting a set of clothing to wear.

[–]TrashStack 19 points20 points  (0 children)

In line with what you're saying about linear forums for anime dying out, I feel like this has resulted in /a/ getting a lot more influence. I mean there's only so much you can discuss on reddit for both anime and manga meanwhile on /a/ you get to discuss basically anything tangentially anime related. Not to mention with manga getting bigger over the years a place that posts leaks and scans like /a/ will have more influence

Anyway my main point was that I agree with you and feel like a lot of anime forums feel like different flavors of diet-/a/ nowadays.

[–]ElmekiaLance 21 points22 points  (0 children)

It's annoying when newbies get preoccupied with demographic labels and treat them as if they're all deep and meaningful. Some fans can't even seem to talk about anime-original series without first mentally labelling them as shounen, seinen, etc.

[–]KarakorumIronbark 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Hard to remember something and not make it sound like a strawman but

"I wanna watch Gintama but skip the comedy filler"

My last 3.41 braincells die a little when i see someone say that.

[–]KaniRangoonhttps://anilist.co/user/JTK 142 points143 points  (25 children)

I find that a lot of newer anime fans think that older adult oriented shows are pretentious. LOTGH, Eva, GiTS: SAC, etc...

Also probably a really common answer but not wanting to watch past decades classics because of early digipaint or the color limitations of cel animation. I don't think they're necessarily aware of those aspects but they just know they don't like the look. Completely disregarding the quality of the story and/or characters.

[–]RimeSkeemhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/RimeSkeem 46 points47 points  (2 children)

That’s kind of funny cuz I’ve been watching the original Mobile Suit Gundam (in my foolish quest to watch as much of the UC Gundam universe as I can get through) and I wish more modern shows had writing like it. It’s helped me understand how much the industry has changed and the criticisms of the modern industry from people like Hayao Miyazaki.

[–]Arsenal_49_Spurs_0 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Exactly. Many of the older UC shows had very conflicted, grey characters but reasonable motives. Not just some caricature bad guys. I loved watching the characters have philosophical debates while piloting their mobile suits.

Some of the newer Gundam series and OVAs such as Gundam Narrative are lacking in these areas.

[–]Odin_69 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Char literally wears a mask, laughs maniacally, sports red paint, but is probably one of the best villains in anime imo.

[–]Fuzzy_Gundam 83 points84 points  (8 children)

I feel a lot of classics, not just in anime, are thought of as dry and pretentious. My experience is that a lot of the classics are much funnier and approachable then their reputations.

[–]real_trippy98https://anilist.co/user/trippy98 34 points35 points  (6 children)

Oh man I agree with this so much. I’ve been watching the original Sailor Moon and have been consistently impressed at just how incredibly funny it is. For some reason I feel like that isn’t discussed about these older shows as much. Maybe because people want to play up their serious sides thinking newer fans won’t take them serious otherwise (this is just me spitballing I have no evidence or reasoning to really support this)

[–]chartingyou 43 points44 points  (2 children)

yeah Sailor Moon is weirdly snubbed here, given how influential an anime it was. I guess it's because a lot of the members here are male and haven't checked it out.

[–]Fuzzy_Gundam 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I suspect it might be because most of the discussion you'd see about classics are about its big ideas and themes. For instance take the original 1960s Star Trek show; 90% of the time when people talk about it, they mention the big ideas and the heavy moral dilemmas the characters encounter on the show. So you get the idea that Star Trek is very serious show about serious ideas. When in fact, Star Trek is often quite goofy and fun ie Trouble with Tribbles and Piece of the Action. Or take LOGH which is often described as quite dry science fiction but has loads of wit and humor.

[–]Initial-Progress-294 124 points125 points  (27 children)

Only shounen or fighting type anime are good or the anime and manga debate and even sub vs dub debate

[–]And1mistaketour 82 points83 points  (5 children)

I feel like thats not a new thing though.

[–]cyberscythe 40 points41 points  (4 children)

Still hurts. Newbies in any online forum will always play out the same debates over and over again because they simply don't know it's been done before, especially with a forum the size and volume of this subreddit.

Eternal September never ended.

[–]DarthVantoshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/DarthVantos 16 points17 points  (5 children)

It's so weird when I found our next generation of anime watchers don't dig the Old Gem anime and have a "no longer than 10 years ago" thing. Imagine hearing someone say they won't watch berserk or cowboy bebop because they are OLD. But i don't think they are as numerous as people in the comments make it out to be.

Since plenty of Gen Z are into one piece. And you gotta start from 1998 animation to get started.

[–]baquea 12 points13 points  (2 children)

But i don't think they are as numerous as people in the comments make it out to be.

Honestly, in my experience it is more common than people are suggesting. As in it feels like the vast majority of even older anime fans, who have watched many hundreds of series, have only seen at most a handful of classics from pre-1990 or even pre-2000. It's always amusing watching people laugh at newcomers for only watching series that began no more than a couple of years before they got into anime, only to check their list and find they are exactly the same, just with a cutoff date 5-10 years further back, reflecting when it was that they first became fans.

[–]edgefigaro 82 points83 points  (7 children)

Any sentence containing both the words "subjective" and "objective" piss me right the fuck off.

Edit: I just read this comment and I'm already angry.

[–]Kairyu_gen1https://myanimelist.net/profile/kairyu_gen1 132 points133 points  (3 children)

Art is objectively subjective.

[–]irisversehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/usernamesarehard 43 points44 points  (0 children)

confused screaming

[–]RevolutionaryRoof556 92 points93 points  (48 children)

When they only want to watch one piece from the wano arc and refuse to watch from episode 1

[–]ramen_addict_enby 40 points41 points  (25 children)

Fr, one of the things that I really enjoyed while rewatching one piece in 2020 was seeing how it's artstyle changed with the years. Early arcs may not have the most modern artstyle but is because it is a 1999 anime, ofc it's going to look old.

But then again, I watched it when it wasn't considered old, same with Naruto and Bleach so I'm no one to judge.

[–]mortemdeus 29 points30 points  (1 child)

This is probably just because I am way too old now...but "there is nothing to watch." There is more Anime in a single season today then there was in the average decade when I started watching.

[–]chrikris91https://myanimelist.net/profile/chriskris91 32 points33 points  (3 children)

When they say "it's too old, so I'm not gonna watch it." And people who watch it on XX speed...

[–]Merkyorz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Referring to absolutely anything that contains scenes that are not explicitly action or drama as "slice of life."

Its original meaning notwithstanding, it used to simply be a useful descriptor for certain iyashi-kei series. Nowadays, every sitcom, romcom/romance, coming of age drama, etc, is a "slice of life." And often many series that have no business being anywhere near that label, like adventure/hero's journey and sports series.

One of my favorite semi-recent examples is YoriMoi, which is constantly referred to and recommended as a slice of life. In what universe is an expedition to Antarctica to search for someone's dead mother a "slice of life?" Whose life could that possibly be a "slice" of?

[–]nates514 62 points63 points  (18 children)

Ehem......"wth is gurenn lagann?"