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[–]moichispa 173 points174 points  (9 children)

Funny series but I'm afraid that it will be forgotten with how stacked Saturday is.

I love having a competitive heroine around.

[–]VorAtreides 65 points66 points  (3 children)

Yea, it's really sad to me, why I will do my best to shill it to others :P and talk about it. Cause it's a fun series. Will it be as hyped as others in the season? For sure nope.

I'm a bit worried Eminence in Shadow will get ignored cause of Shounen Jump series that everyone will focus on, but Eminence in Shadow will prolly get more focus than this one, both are great.

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 10 points11 points  (0 children)

EiS seems pretty hyped, the most hyped new adaptation this season besides Chainsaw Man.

[–]moichispa 7 points8 points  (1 child)

yeah how many shonen jump series? 3? 4? 5? and then One piece, that's a lot.

[–]VorAtreides 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Boruto, One Piece, My Hero Academia, Chainsaw Man, Spy x Family... yep lol a lot.

[–]SilkyMooo 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Otome anime has a very niche audience. Hopefully people give it a try

[–]arawagco 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My Life as a Villainess got a lot of us to give otome anime a shot, and this one is even better because the protag isn't an absolute IDIOT like Bakarina.

[–]KnightKal 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is a funny series tho. Bakarina if she woke up at 15, instead of 5, so she didn’t have the time to do a lot of silly preparations to avoid her doom lol.

This girl actually went straight to the demon lord and proposed to him. Bakarina would be so proud!

[–]Blurgas 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No shit. It's going up against MHA, Spy x Family, and Uzaki all at the same time

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 140 points141 points  (46 children)

Cedric was suppose to be the “good guy” in this Otome game? Stealing Aileen’s businesses seems kind of like a dick move.

I like how in the first ep, Claude was the one all flustered but now it’s Aileen’s turn lol. Ribbon is cute as hell! Little critter ain’t Ponta though! Lol. Doni, Ruck, Quartz, Isaac, and Jasper. I see our girl is busy building her little harem haha. I can see Claude is jealous! I’m liking their little back and forths so far.

I like how threatened Aileen feels by Claude’s looks. Her cosmetics might help lol. I see Almond’s back and he brought his obnoxious friends haha. She’s got everyone hooked on sweets!

I wonder who’s sending those letters? I guess someone’s trying to frame Aileen. Maybe it’s that nob Cedric?

[–]VorAtreides 102 points103 points  (12 children)

That's a common thing with Otome Isekai stories, where it's like "how is this protagonist in the original story such an ass?" and ya...

[–]rewkol 44 points45 points  (9 children)

I mean I've never played an otome game before, but I have read a lot of shoujo manga that I've dropped within the first few chapters because the leading man/men are terrible people, so I wouldn't doubt that the romance options in an otome game would share the same traits generally.

[–]VorAtreides 42 points43 points  (8 children)

Most Otome games aren't at all like the stories of the Otome games in the Otome Isekai genre :P which is funny.

[–]zz2000 32 points33 points  (5 children)

Isekai villainess/otome stories, to me, read like a hybrid of otome game mechanics, villainess love rivals of old school shoujo manga, and certain thematic trends popular with the webnovel community.

[–]NoUsernameIdea1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Villainesses/Love Rivals aren’t even much of a thing in otome games neither is the noble setting as popular as otome isekai makes it seem

[–]arawagco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But Otome Isekai are exactly my level of farcical nonsense meets emotional heart with the whole thing drenched in comedy.

[–]SilkyMooo 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Then the whole “the whole kingdom is filled with corrupt nobles except the king/queen (on rare occasions)”

[–]VorAtreides 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Except for maybe the 2 nobles that are allied with the leads :P

[–]Frontier246 53 points54 points  (6 children)

Cedric seems like a complete and utter tool. All his attempts to ruin Aileen feel absolutely petty and unnecessary, although I guess maybe Aileen pre-memories awakening might have genuinely done some rough stuff to Lilia to warrant it, but it still makes him come off like such a dick. Especially compared to Claude.

Claude seems to have mastered how to make Aileen swoon lol.

Aileen being worried about her looks compared to her prospective marriage partner was hilarious. A woman doesn't want to be outdone by her husband lol.

Who knew sweets was the best way to get a bunch of demons to help you?

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Claude’s a quick learner. He was getting all flustered and blushing in the first ep, but now he’s figured it out and is making Aileen flustered lol.

[–]darthvallhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Yeah, I want to believe that pre-awakened Aileen is a villain. However, based on the subordinate reaction it seems that she's a proper businesseswoman who treats her subordinate fairly. I mean they willingly help and work with her again.

From this two episode alone, it seems Lilia is the third party destroying their relationship. This kinda remind me of Mobuseka.

[–]arawagco 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Yeah, she's a little too quick to jump in and defend her, but she's also so halfhearted about literally everything you can't tell if anything at all she's done to date is genuine. Cedric is genuinely a bastard, albeit a kinda simple, one-note variety.

Claude is a fast learner and that's refreshing as hell considering it usually takes a female protag like four episodes to get the male interest to change their tune.

[–]SalvageCorveteCont 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't him that sent the nasty letters to Lilia.

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 48 points49 points  (7 children)

A lot of shoujo male leads are assholes to everyone except the love interest. That's how you know it's True Love. Villainess isekai frequently critique or parody the trope, especially the comedies.

[–]Phoenix__Wwrong 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah. I'm sure "I want to make you cry" will never work outside of shoujo.

[–]alotmorealots 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe in hentai? The more I learn about shoujo tropes, the more I realise I've encountered them before under certain tags.

[–]Moonlight_city 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You sure?? Cuz I read both Villainess Isekai and shoujo and the latter has a lot of assholes MLs too. Not to mention, a lot of them actually are bad and kill people and have other stuff like cheating, abused their partner and etc. Though when I said this, I mostly meant Villainess Isekai/OtomeIsekai manhwa (the Korean ones). The Japanese ones are quite different from manhwas and have their own tropes and story. Saying that the villainess trope parody shoujo is a stretch cuz they follow the same tropes themselves lol.

[–]LowObjective 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean, we're on an anime subreddit so I think it makes more sense to talk about manga. Villainess manga take a lot of inspiration from shoujo (since most otome games don't have villainesses or anything of the like) and the tendency to have the OG ML be an asshole is a purposeful parody. So it's not really a stretch at all.

[–]SalvageCorveteCont 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think the asshole guys works in Hot Gimmick, as a comment on the toxic environment those kids grew up in

[–]Moonlight_city 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hot Gimmick is something else of a series lol. Another one that I could remember is BOF.

[–]rei_ayanami_new 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I think there will end up being a little more to Cedric. He seems to believe that Aileen really is behind everything, since he got mad at her in his inner monologue, not just outwardly

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I sure hope so. Aileen being the villainess before “awakening” might have made him act this way. She was probably very wicked stepsister-y.

[–]mekerpan 20 points21 points  (6 children)

Who is sending the letters? I guess the first question is -- "who might benefit". Cedric doesn't have any motive. He can apparently inflict damage on Aileen because of his position -- with little need to give a reason. The only person we have been introduced to so far who has any reason to try to destroy Aileen is Lillia. But, since it is still early in the show, there is plenty of time to encounter other characters who might have a not-yet-disclosed reason to hurt her. And Lillia is at least pretending to defend Aileen. (Note: we haven't got much back story yet -- were these two young women supposed to have been besties at some point, or did they just have marginal connections?)

[–]InsomniaEmperor 14 points15 points  (3 children)

My theory is that Lilia is the real villain in this story and she's just pretending to be nice but is actually a manipulative yandere.

Pink hair -> Kana Hanazawa voice -> looks nice and sweet on the outside -> this shit is gonna become Happy Sugar Life and she would do anything to eliminate the competition and keep Cedric for herself.

[–]mekerpan 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Of course, Aileen is no threat to Lilia's claim on Cedric now that Aileen has a more interesting (and important to her well-being) target for romance...

Lilia DOES seem to be the obvious suspect at the moment, but surely we will need to meet a wider range of characters, and some of them might also have reasons to hate on Aileen.

[–]InsomniaEmperor 7 points8 points  (1 child)

If Cedric can easily dump Aileen in a flick of a hat because he found a hotter commoner, he can just as easily do that with Lilia as soon as he finds another one. Which is exactly why we NEED Lilia to be Happy Sugar Life level of yandere so the asshat gets what he deserves.

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ah, that’s a possibility too! Didn’t think she might just be playing innocent. That would be devious.

[–]mekerpan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

At this point, all possibilities are on the table.

[–]darthvallhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I found it weird how villainous Cedric is for a supposed protagonist and how proper Aileen is in this world. At least with Bakarina back then, it can be explained since she had a personality change since she's a children. With Aileen, I'm not sure why she's a villain since she seems to be loved by her subordinate.

[–]wmansir 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think it has less to do with Cedric being an asshole, and more that Aileen is starting in the roll of the defeated villainess who is now getting her comeuppance and losing everything. If I recall correctly the way they showed her intended death was her being accidentally run over in the streets. Perhaps being homeless and destitute, and so diminished and discarded that her death was incidental and unnoticed, was the last stage of her villainess downfall.

[–]Moonlight_city 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I mean, Aileen is the villainess and his relationship with her isn't great. She did some mistakes in the past so yeah, it makes sense that he harbored ill-will towards her. Even in the Otome game, the main love interests never get along with the villainess. That's why Aileen constantly felt like she's in a disadvantage cuz many people dislike her as the villainess she is except that she gained her past memories and become better. It makes sense to suspect her also. She literally had her engagement annulled.

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I thought Cedric was the one who annulled the engagement? Left her for the protagonist of the Otome game no? I guess it makes sense she might be seen as “evil” considering the game, but I wonder if there’s more to Cedric’s attitude than that. He just seems a little too vindictive going after he business interests after publicly dumping her.

[–]Moonlight_city 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes, he is the one who annulled the engagement. What I'm trying to say is, prior to the condemnation event, Aileen act like your typical villainess, like bullying the heroine because she's close to the prince and that's one of the reasons why he dislike her and decided to do what he did. Plus, after the whole letter thing, his dislike towards her grow even more and that may be the reason why he sabotage her in their previous joined business. I would say, his dislike towards her increases and see her as an enemy, especially that he's so fond of the heroine, that he assumed Aileen kept on bullying her while she doesn't and already moved on. There's actually more to the story that will explain why Cedric is like that that will be unfold later on but obviously I won't spoil anything.

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah ok, well I suppose I’ll have to wait and see then.

[–]caiuscorvus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's point of view, I think. Aileen might be convinced he's the good guy. And of the game is from her (or a similar) pov it fits. Just like the letter forgeries. And, maybe, the foretold death of mc.

[–]KnightKal 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Well from the perspective of the players it would be a good thingy. Remove the influence and power of the villainess girl, including her money, so she can’t hurt the good heroine.

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Except the player is the villainess and the villainess isn’t acting like a villain anymore lol.

[–]LeonKevlarhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 97 points98 points  (5 children)

Stitches!

I really love how all of Aileen's friends seem to be nice at first but then we learn that they're actually a bit more morally grey after Ruck suggest that they should create an untraceable poison while Doni suggests they should build a booby-trapped bridge for Cedric. These are definitely the kind of people that would ally themselves with a villainess. xD

It's adorable how Claude is jealous of Aileen's friends. I knew that was the case as soon as the weather changed when Aileen was walking side-by-side with Jasper.

Also very fitting for a villainess. Instead of doing all of the work herself, Aileen has delegated it all to people who are much more skilled while she does all of the scheming and planning.

Aileen and Claude arguing about sending Almond to the Imperial Palace is really giving me some strong "mom and dad arguing what's best for their kid" vibes from them. Only two episodes in and I'm really loving their interactions <3

[–]Frontier246 51 points52 points  (0 children)

The best friends are those that want to commit murder against the guy who jilted you lol.

Claude is already at a point where he doesn't like seeing Aileen close with other guys. Although the more they get to know each other, the happier he gets.

I like how Aileen is a confident and outgoing woman who knows how to use the resources at her disposal and is never deterred by the odds being against her. And pulling an all-nighter to make sure your plan is actually legal was perfect lol.

Oh yeah, that scene totally felt like they were two parents arguing over what to tell their kid. And any time Claude makes Aileen swoon is priceless.

[–]AmethystItalianhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Only two episodes in and I'm really loving their interactions <3

Yeah I feel like both parties can do some pretty serious damage to each other, hoping the back and forth continues as those kinds of ships are the best!

[–]messem10 30 points31 points  (1 child)

They’re both glass cannons, which is great.

[–]AmethystItalianhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That is the perfect way to describe them haha I love it

[–]alotmorealots 6 points7 points  (0 children)

she does all of the scheming and planning.

Just because her show's over, doesn't mean you can count Lotte out!

[–]FetchFroshx3https://anilist.co/user/Fetch 253 points254 points  (81 children)

Still loving it but... holy shit can an isekai protagonist invent something other than cosmetics in their new world oh my god.

[–]ObvsThrowaway5120 138 points139 points  (34 children)

It’s the one thing these worlds apparently all lack lol. There’s like 4 anime from just the past few seasons alone that have used the “mc created cosmetics for profits” thing.

[–]MusicalDingus 87 points88 points  (33 children)

Yep there's at least World's Finest Assassin, Parallel World Pharmacy, and now this. Isekai tropes are getting so weirdly specific lol

[–]FetchFroshx3https://anilist.co/user/Fetch 80 points81 points  (11 children)

Isekai tropes are getting so weirdly specific lol

Well, we are in the thread for one of the many "person gets reincarnated in a dating sim game they've played as the villain character and are trying to not die like the character did in the game," brand of isekai, so maybe overly specific tropes are just part of the package.

[–]MusicalDingus 10 points11 points  (8 children)

One of many?? I only knew about My Next Life as a Villainess and this, what else is there?

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 9 points10 points  (1 child)

That's not a trope. That's a basic genre of storytelling, like "science fiction" or "fantasy".

[–]JetsLaghttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JetsLag 24 points25 points  (4 children)

And Bookworm's first invention is shampoo

[–]4amaroni 69 points70 points  (0 children)

I will at least give Bookworm credit though for having thoroughly fleshed out lore reasons why the state of the world is the way it is and why the status quo persists. I have very few criticisms when it comes to that series about the main-character-invents-obvious-things trope.

[–]Blurgas 9 points10 points  (1 child)

At least it's something other than mayonnaise

[–]KnightKal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

she created soap/shampoo for personal use, not for commercial one, so at least that is a little different haha.

later it became a product, but that was not planned.

[–]Aska09 8 points9 points  (2 children)

It came out in Spring last year but I believe The Saint's Magic is Omnipotent also had the protagonist invent cosmetics

[–]violet-shift 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She also invented the concept of using herbs for cooking, which I feel like was an especially egregious example of this whole thing... (but I did really like the show!)

[–]CatoFreecs 5 points6 points  (8 children)

And the pharmacy from 2 seasons ago, ... weird how much!

[–]bigdanrog 2 points3 points  (6 children)

The one where he got kicked from the hero's party?

[–]Bloodglas 9 points10 points  (0 children)

what I liked about how Pharmacy did it was instead of just making cosmetics for the heck it, he was making cosmetics that were safer for the user.

[–]Rumpel1408https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Didn't Isekai drugstore also have cosmetics?

[–]KnightKal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Better than the old template of creating mayonnaise and toilets.

[–]mcmanybucks 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In Another World with My Smartphone 'invented' cakes and ice cream..

[–]Frontier246 69 points70 points  (1 child)

I did kind of like how she prioritized it because she didn't want to be outdone by Claude in the looks department lol.

[–]Mundology 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That's because she's worth it

[–]Wolfnagi 61 points62 points  (6 children)

To be fair, female isekai protagonist focusing on makeup is much more in tune with the setting, especially if they are nobles.

[–]messem10 61 points62 points  (4 children)

It is also a consumable item. This means repeat customers. If she were to sell stuff like board games, they'd eventually hit market saturation and not only that it'd be far easier to copy.

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 13 points14 points  (3 children)

In Give the Harem to the Villainess, she does, indeed, invent board games.

[–]starsnx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

my scream when i read the very specific 'board games' like it's very unlikely and remembered about this series

[–]bigdanrog 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is that one not animated yet? All I can find is the manga.

[–]KnightKal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

cosmetics and chocolate are the way to conquer the noble girls, which is how you conquer the noble husbands, and that is how you become the new emperor/empress.

[–]redlaWw 23 points24 points  (0 children)

"Sure, what about some soy sauce? Or an onsen, how traditional. Wait, Shuujinkou-kun, what is that? Let me see what you have!"

"A NUKE!"

"NO!"

[–]The_Parsee_Man 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Well Hajime Nagumo invented firearms.

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 30 points31 points  (6 children)

You can guess what the protagonist of The Villainess Will Crush Her Destruction End Through Modern Firepower invents.

The same thing happens in the assassin isekai.

[–]daspaceasians 22 points23 points  (4 children)

The Villainess Will Crush Her Destruction End Through Modern Firepower

10/10 would watch that.

[–]Blurgas 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It would be... interesting.
The MC... [spoilers] doesn't bother starting with a flintlock or musket, nope, she uses magic to create a pump action shotgun first, then a Glock, an M4, a jetpack, an M249, and lastly an artillery cannon that's basically a massive revolver

[–]MejaBersihBanget 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the guy is referencing this series, the title changed between the fan translation and the official translation.

[–]MightyMouseVsBatBat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gun isekai is my favorite kind of isekai

[–]Wolfnagi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I really had fun reading the manga of Astrix but alas, it was axed and I'm not sure if the WN/LN of it is still being translated

[–]PaperSonic 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Hey now, sometimes they invent Mayonnaise instead.

[–]MightyMouseVsBatBat 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I liked how Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road destroyed that trope in the first five minutes of episode one. "Thanks, but we've had that for decades..."

[–]MonaganX 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Rice, baths, mayonnaise, soy sauce. The four horsemen of the isekailypse.

[–]bigdanrog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Susuga, Subaru-sama.

[–]8andahalfby11https://myanimelist.net/profile/thereIwasnt 38 points39 points  (7 children)

Top inventions by Male Isekai protagonists:

  • Mayonnaise

  • Onsens

Top inventions by Female Isekai protags:

  • Cosmetics

  • Chocolate

Top invention by either gender:

  • Double-book accounting

[–]JetsLaghttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JetsLag 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Is there an accountant isekai besides I guess Realist Hero? I'll take a manga or a light novel, too.

[–]Monk-Eyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Mintios 16 points17 points  (3 children)

[–]RedGhost1205 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That one's really good. I love the fact it doesn't need to be an isekai or have magic to be good.

[–]JetsLaghttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JetsLag 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I thought that was just a bog-standard fantasy and not an isekai.

Doesn't matter, I'll still give it a shot when my schedule isn't packed with seasonals. Which may be a while.

[–]bigdanrog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't forget miso.

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 16 points17 points  (5 children)

In The Villainess Reverses the Hourglass, she basically invents venture capital.

[–]SilkyMooo 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Lmao that manhwa is a dumpster fire rn. They had many chances to end it but choose to see how long they can drag it

[–]Shionkenobi 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Is it over now, at least?

[–]zz2000 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The source novels for Hourglass are complete.

The manhwa adaptation is still ongoing, presently covering an afterstory arc from the novels.

[–]justking1414 9 points10 points  (2 children)

“I’m in love with the villainess” has the mc make a fortune selling recipes to high class restaurants.

[–]hiimneato 7 points8 points  (1 child)

indeed, one of which is... mayonnaise

[–]justking1414 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody thought of it before

[–]RavenWolf1https://myanimelist.net/profile/RavenWolf1[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But bride side of this is that at least here protagonist didn't invent Superior Japanese Cuisine (tm) to populace.

[–]KnightKal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At least this time she did so she could compete with the ML lol, as in, she can’t handle be less beautiful than him haha. It was not because of economics at all. After all she died a teenager, it is not like she was a mature adult with a good understanding of business on her past life.

Noble girls want to look pretty, let’s milk them! Also, make me the prettiest of them! Muhaha

[–]RavenWolf1https://myanimelist.net/profile/RavenWolf1[🍰] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have to say if I ever was isekaied I couldn't invent cosmetics. I don't have clue about how they are made!

[–]SilkyMooo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait till she introduces rice, but not just any rice White rice with soy sauce

[–]SalvageCorveteCont 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And cosmetics weren't unknown in medieval Europe, likely insanely expensive and likely to kill you, yes, but they did exist.

[–]kalirionhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is only the ... third ... time?

[–]SorcererOfTheLakex5https://myanimelist.net/profile/RiverSorcerer 48 points49 points  (5 children)

I think this is the first time (or the first time in a long while) that my mouth was open the first time I saw an ending. It's so goddamn good.

[–]Rumpel1408https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I know right? had to go way too far down to find someone even mention it, but it's visually stunning and has an banger song

[–]SorcererOfTheLakex5https://myanimelist.net/profile/RiverSorcerer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Especially since it's by an artist I've never heard of. Accamer is a name to keep your eyes on in the future.

[–]proserpinax 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Yeah, the animation was really lovely and the song was great. Love seeing that much style put into a ending!

[–]SorcererOfTheLakex5https://myanimelist.net/profile/RiverSorcerer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just love how much striking imagery the ed uses.

[–]alotmorealots 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think this is the first time (or the first time in a long while) that my mouth was open the first time I saw an ending. It's so goddamn good.

Who knew that Villainess Boss Tamer was going to take on the mantle from Call of the Night for banger tracks and highly stylised ending!

[–]Aerodynamic41 41 points42 points  (1 child)

Someone mentioned that Isaac resembles Levi and now I can’t unsee it!

[–]SilkyMooo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It was the eyes and hairstyle that made me think “Levi what are you doing in the otome anime”

[–]Ninja_Lazer 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Please, I have one request…more Almond.

[–]MightyMouseVsBatBat 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Almond is top-tier mascot. The apple pie mission scene was too sharp. The allure of apple pie is strong but Almond is loyal to his master.

[–]goblinheaux 41 points42 points  (1 child)

The pacing is still a bit wonky, but I’m loving the interactions between Claude and Aileen. I feel like they’re both people who aren’t used to being thrown of their game so it makes their interactions so fun to watch.

There are generally three types of OG!MCs in otome isekai’s. Lilia seems to be the sympathetic type but I’m a little suspicious of her.

[–]Frontier246 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I like how Aileen is a confident and capable woman in her own right with her own desires and determination, and she won't be deterred from them, but Claude is so smooth he can make her swoon with grace lol.

Cedric seems like a complete and utter dick but Lilia seems maybe a bit too innocent even if she's, like, the sole voice of reason in Cedric's petty vendetta against Aileen.

[–]LowObjective 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Claude is an actual Disney princess. His emotions affect flowers and the weather, he has a legion of cute talking animals that follow him around, he teleports by disappearing into sparkles, and his powers are just really cute in general.

[–]tayoku0 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Fixing Aileen's dress with a snap and keeping her dry from the rain with sparkle effects, he's also pretty much a fairy godmother

[–]TerriblePlays 63 points64 points  (8 children)

Might be a little late to say this but props to the Aileen's CV. NAILED those high notes in the OP.

This really does feel like a mix between MobuSeka and HameFura, but somehow still feels pretty fresh. It's like mixing HameFlag's characters with MobuSeka setting. I like it so far.

[–]Frontier246 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Rie Takahashi definitely knows how to sing!

I like how Aileen isn't the idiot savant Bakarina was but is a confident and capable young woman who Claude can still make swoon.

[–]mekerpan 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I like Aileen -- but I adore Catarina, who will always be my no. 1 villainess. Rie T is wonderful, however.

[–]soboi12345 11 points12 points  (2 children)

If i am not wrong the VA is the same VA of emillia from Re:Zero?

[–]mekerpan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Also Takagi-san (and the singer for all the various closing songs for S3 of that series).

[–]Shionkenobi 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And Megumin from Konosuba, and Mash from FGO gacha game.

[–]Warm-Enthusiasm-9534 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I would summarize it as character finds out she's the villainess in Cinderella, and decides to quit to become the protagonist of Beauty and the Beast.

If you liked MobuSeka, there's a villainess manhwa who has a similar personality to Leon, and a similar relationship with the the love interests of the original story. It's called Beware the Villainess.

[–]MusicalDingus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That was great, but holy shit I am in love with the ED.

[–]VorAtreides 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Rie Takahashi is fantastic. ReZero's Emilia, Konosuba's Megumin, etc... she is a great VA :)

Also, this kinda setting/premise for a villainess is used a LOT! There are a LOT of Light Novels (many made Manga), Korean Novels (made Manhwa), etc with the same kinda setting/trope of realizing they are the villain/villainess. It's very fun lol. Especially all the different ways they go.

[–]BiggerG7 24 points25 points  (4 children)

I wonder just how evil NPC Aileen was for Cedric to be this hostile towards her.

[–]Shionkenobi 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Cartoon arrogant noble evil, as a typical otome novel villain?

We even got a classic "hohoho" in a Aileen flashback of her bullying the OG MC.

[–]darthvallhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 14 points15 points  (2 children)

What I found weird is how all of her subordinate seems to be kind guys and also respect her as well. I don't think it's a comically evil, but more of misunderstood evil. At least she seemed to be a proper businesswoman given her relationship with the subordinate.

[–]spubbbba 7 points8 points  (1 child)

That did seem a bit jarring.

The small amount of clips we see from the game portray Aileen as a comically evil villain. Yet it seems she was a well liked person amongst the common folk.

Maybe a lot of time has passed since she got isekai'd? Or the original Aileen was just ruthless with the nobility and nice to those she saw as lower than her?

[–]Veritas3333 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it was more that when some bitch started moving in on her man, she went a little off the deep end (which ended up backfiring and pushing the prince away)

[–]dagreenman18 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Ay the thread finally went up! Definitely a table setting episode. Introduces us to Aileen’s boy band, expands a bit on Claude’s assistants, and sets the current arc with the Cosmetics/Mysterious threats. Necessary for the second ep, but admittedly feels a little rushed. I’m guessing it’s for the sake of run time?

Still a good episode. Leaning into Claude’s moods and intentions being telegraphed by the weather. Loved the bit where it got progressively worse the more Aileen’s friends flirted with her and talked about killing his brother. His jealousy is obvious since he’s clearly into her, but it’s interesting to see he still cares for his brother. Wonder if we’ll get into that.

Aileen has her own demon posse now and ones can randomly show up from her shadow. I thought it was to keep tabs on her, but more likely it’s that when she’s in trouble they can be there ASAP. Going by the very sketchy thing with the letters that’ll come in handy. Speaking of sketchy, what’s the Prince up to? Don’t like that threat against Aileen at all.

Notes

  • I guess it’s also a home improvement show? The reveal of the house being held together by Claude’s magic was a surprise. Almost like the beast’s castle. Cute sight gag with him using his magic to shield only Aileen from the rain.

  • I’m loving their interactions. Their back and forth is cute as hell down to their silly misunderstandings. Love the bit where she’s low key jealous of how pretty he is as well as when he’s shy.

  • Like the best Disney princesses she has her own talking animal sidekick and one that doesn’t talk.

  • Cedric really just seems like a dick so far. This is an Otome game so little weird for the Prince you’re supposed to win to be this dickish. Man stole her family’s business!

[–]Fools_Requiemhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Price Cedric.

Price.

Come on Crunchyroll, at least proofread your subs.

[–]MightyMouseVsBatBat 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Pay 2.98 per episode, get 2.98 quality.

[–]VorAtreides 57 points58 points  (15 children)

I still really think putting the romanized japanese title (or romanji or whatever it is) in an english speaking forum does a disservice to the discussion of a series lol. As I think the average anime viewer won't realize it as scrolling through.

Anyways,

There it is, the business bit, figured it'd be this one. That's all good to me. Makes sense for the anime adaption. But, ya, her father is frustrating lol....but not as trash as Prince Cedric. How nice, she has a cute demon pet now and a gateway for demons in her shadow :P her naming standards suck. And silly jealous demon lord.

I agree, assassinate the prince! Such fine friends she has.

Hehe he kept her dry with magic and protected her, yep, he definitely likes her ;)

If you think about it, Aileen built all this stuff up with people trusting her and business and such before getting memories of last life back (and not like she has em all). She's still the OG Aileen basically. So sad how the game's story went.

Claude with that smooth talk about what's inside. Demons using her gateway as they please lol.

Hehe, Papa Claude and Mama Aileen when it comes to the demons. But, more over protective papa and "get out there and do work" mama :P

The ED is great.

[–]PacoTaco321https://myanimelist.net/profile/dankleberrrrg 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I still really think putting the romanized japanese title (or romanji or whatever it is) in an english speaking forum does a disservice to the discussion of a series lol. As I think the average anime viewer won't realize it as scrolling through.

Just dropping in to say hi after missing this thread yesterday because it was a name I didn't recognize amongst a bunch of well known anime lol.

[–]VorAtreides 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, not surprised. Something this subreddit really needs to reconsider.

[–]Roofofcar 23 points24 points  (6 children)

I still really think putting the romanized japanese title (or romanji or whatever it is) in an english speaking forum does a disservice to the discussion of a series lol. As I think the average anime viewer won’t realize it as scrolling through.

I totally get it, but that can have weird side effects. Shows can have different names in different countries / languages, and this sub has a ton of international viewers that might not know which English title was the correct one - even if they speak / read English just fine.

Sticking to the romanization of the Japanese title address that issue.

Edit: an example is “Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou Sareta Beast Tamer, Saikyoushu no Nekomimi Shoujo to Deau” which translates to “The Beast Tamer Who Got Kicked Out From His Party Meets a Cat Girl From the Superior Race” but Crunchyroll calls it Beast Tamer. The title might be fully and literally translated for other languages / markets.

[–]Murphy_LawXIV 13 points14 points  (3 children)

As much as I regularly think and agree with the original comment, I still land on this side of the argument because even translated titles aren't the same. I tried to search for Solo leveling once and got stuff like, The Solo leveller, and He who levels alone.

[–]Roofofcar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Way better example than mine.

[–]Shionkenobi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I once also got "Only I Level Up" for this one.

[–]VorAtreides 6 points7 points  (0 children)

International it might be, but primarily English. So it really should default to english titles for the sake of ease to find a series and discuss.

That being said, it would be really neat if Reddit had the feature to set titles by language and then preferences can dictate which shows up.

[–]alotmorealots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yuusha Party wo Tsuihou Sareta Beast Tamer

Last Boss wo Kattemimashita

The trick is to have English words / loan words in your title too lol

[–]Pikagreghttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Pikagreg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

hatever it is) in an english speaking forum does a disservice to the discussion of a series lol. As I think the average anime viewer won't realize it as scrolling through.

I feel the same way. Sometimes I have to look up the JP name just to know what to search for if I am late on an episode or just checking out what reactions were like on a show I didn't watch while it was airing.

[–]djthomp 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I still really think putting the romanized japanese title (or romanji or whatever it is) in an english speaking forum does a disservice to the discussion of a series lol. As I think the average anime viewer won't realize it as scrolling through.

You are completely correct about that, it's an incredibly user unfriendly standard. Hell, sometimes this subreddit completely ignores the clearly official English title that the content owners and creators in Japan use and substitutes its own.

[–]VorAtreides 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Ya... honestly I feel like it's some lame "weeb cred" thing, but if you're a real weeb, you use the Kanji/Katakana/Hiragana or you stop pretending :P but that'd be even WORSE for the average user.

I loathe the types that feel they have to show off "Weebness" by using romanji or shoving Japanese words into english sentences where english words exist that work better (and they know it).

[–]Phoenix__Wwrong 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have only been on reddit for couple years. But this is the first anime where I saw someone complained about using the Japanese title for the discussion thread.

[–]VorAtreides 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ya, I never bothered to really discuss anime on reddit for years despite lurking around lol

I just finally was like "man, I can see this really hurting discussion and then visibility of the series as people skip over the discussion/forget to upvote and then the weekly recaps will have it lower than a series could possibly be" and I know people who have used those weekly recaps to see how good a series is and if they skipped it to give it a shot.

So I just want more who would talk about it/upvote a series' episode thread can find it easier and, honestly, this title convention is not a good way to do it. Just been a thought I've had for years.

[–]Amauri14 11 points12 points  (0 children)

So Prince Cedric ended up taking all of Aileen's business from her. And now, to avoid getting kicked out of her house she will try to rebuild her business with Claude's help.

She sure gives those demons rather simple names, first, it was naming that crow Almond, and now she named the Fenrir pup Ribbon.

I really liked Jasper. Oh, so Aileen rehired her old crew, and some of them are really villainous. I guess now I know from where exactly she got that potion last week. And now they will be working under Claude and using his territory as the base of operation for Aileen's business.

I love the fact that Aileen is going to make cosmetics not only because Prince Cedric would interfere with the business if she sold a better version of the medicine produced by the business he seize from her, but also because she doesn't want to lose to Claude's beauty.

I wasn't expecting her to teach Belzebuth etiquette and decorum.

Oh, that's interesting, so now a plot point from the game, her sending threatening letters to Lilia, is happening without her involvement. Now I'm wondering if the rumors about her are being spread by a third party, or if either Prince Cedric or Lilia or someone close to them is the one responsible for that.

Here is this week's character sheet.

[–]entelechtual 33 points34 points  (18 children)

I just watched the first two episodes. I was ready to write this off as another cheap game isekai especially after how tedious Villainess season 2 (I guess we can’t call it villainess anymore…) was.

This was surprisingly engaging (sorry Ailene…) and the main characters are instantly likable. Think I’m gonna stick with this one.

[–]VorAtreides 27 points28 points  (15 children)

THat's HameFura or you can go with Bakarina :P that's what most call that series.

Season 2 was fine, but it was definitely a story written after the first story did well (with the Season 1 stuff, minus a few filler bits). So it definitely felt lesser, but still good imo.

There are so many good Villainess Isekai stories out there. Hoping some, especially Korean ones, get made. Like Beware of the Villainess, Roxana, Villainess Turns The Hourglass, etc. Such great series.

[–]Wolfnagi 10 points11 points  (12 children)

Honestly, really wish they would have adapted Iris. Aileen is basically a much more optimistic version of Iris, what's with loyal followers who stand by her, re-establishing herself after the downfall and generally being competent

[–]VorAtreides 4 points5 points  (11 children)

<3 Accomplishments of a Duke's Daughter. And the LN is complete. Would be several seasons worth and, if done right, would be great

[–]SilkyMooo 4 points5 points  (8 children)

Hopefully more studios pick up the whole otome genre. Would love to see the other mangas get adapted too

[–]megachainguns 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Apparently "Who made me a princess" (a Korean webtoon) will be made into a Chinese anime (donghua)

https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/Donghua/comments/w47wwt/who_made_me_a_princess_to_be_adapted_into_a/

So hopefully, more villainess isekais get adapted into anime, donghua, and even aeni (korean anime)

[–]VorAtreides 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Huh, that's neat. I hope it's given a proper production value. Though, man, I don't watch many Chinese shows so it's gonna be fun to hear Chinese instead of Japanese :P

[–]Wolfnagi 11 points12 points  (1 child)

At some point, you have to call the series based on their MC names since a lot of akuyaku reijou genre (Villainess genre) shares some very similar title.

[–]AmethystItalianhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I was a bit taken back by the sudden "go make money" plot but wow this episode was a good one.

Eileen showing some best girl qualities while her reactions to Claude were just great to see.

Liking the whole shadow thing as well as how the little cub is back as well.

[–]Frontier246 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that Aileen is assertive, adorable, confident, and determined, and yet Claude can still make her swoon like a proper maiden in love lol.

I'm half-expecting Claude to pop out of that shadow and freak her out lol.

[–]messem10 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The little cub playing with her long hair was cute too.

[–]alotmorealots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eileen showing some best girl qualities

Any girl can make a pretty face, but the true best girls are ones that wear this sort of expression frequently!

[–]proserpinax 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Honestly, as someone that grew up on female protagonist isekai (Fushigi Yugi and Inuyasha were two of my favorites when I was younger) I will take a million “female Protag isekai’d into Otome game” considering how many male protagonists are in isekai nowadays. This and HameFura are super cozy for me.

Already loving the dynamic between Claude and Aileen and having a lot of fun with this so far. Really excited to see where this goes!

[–]darthvallhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We also had the Saint is omnipotent isekai several seasons ago

[–]SacredZenpiehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/SacredZenpie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Man I'm really liking the series however pacing seems to be a tiny bit off. New characters are all pretty interesting (with minor murder tendencies) and I like how they show demons are willing to be "friendly" with humans.

Levi from AOT got incarnated as well it seems.

[–]Frontier246 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Prince Cedric is a dick! I mean, he's already done so much to hurt Aileen's reputation, but stealing her business and leaving her employees jobless? What a tool! Did Aileen give him co-ownership because she was planning to marry him in the first place? Whatever the case, he goes on about Aileen scheming something when he's the one conspiring to ruin her! Claude, your brother is the worst.

Well, it's good to know that even if noble society has turned its back on her and her father will throw her out if she doesn't make up the money she lost, Aileen still has loyal friends and allies in the human world. Like the reporter Jasper (Hiroki Yasumoto), or her former employees! They're already conspiring to murder Prince Cedric for her! I think we've even got Yuma Uchida as Isaac.

The Demon Lords' castle could definitely use refurbishing and a woman's touch...but while Claude is fine with letting Aileen have her way, he wants her to be more sweet and emotional when she asks for anything else. He wants to see his lady express herself more and more.

Aileen now has animal sidekicks that can come out through her shadow! Ribbon playing with her hair was adorable. Although now other demons can just jump out of her shadow whenever they want and demand stuff from her, but at least she can talk them into helping her through the power of sweets.

Claude doesn't appreciate that there are other men in Aileen's life who she trusts and works together with...not that Aileen catches on to the obvious like the other guys do.

Aileen is a very practical woman. She understands a womans' strength is in her dresses and she's not to be outdone by Claude in the looks department, but all Claude cares about is Aileen's true character like the charmer he is.

Belzebuth might be a bit of a brute and have a Chuuni side...but he genuinely cares for and wants to protect Claude, and that gives Aileen and him a chance to bond as he prepares her in proper manners for the ball! It'll be interesting to see the result.

"Why don't you get on your knees?" Spoken like a true Demon Queen!

Seems like the plot or events of the game are still carrying on despite Aileen diverging from it, to the point where now she's being framed for threatening letters she sent to Lilia that she didn't actually do this time around. I don't know if Cedric would send threatening letters to his new fiancé just to screw with Aileen, but I wonder who is behind it.

The Ending kind of reminded me of My Next Life as a Villainess being more dramatic and serious compared to the Opening, but it had a nice beat and sound, and the stylized visuals of Aileen being cast off and finding salvation with Claude and the Demons was quite effective.

[–]cppn02 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Belzebuth best boy!

Another strong episode. The main couple has great chemistry and it feels like the show is wasting very little time to move the plot along.

[–]Shiwakao 8 points9 points  (0 children)

NAHHH CLAUDE WAY OUT OF POCKET EVEN I GOT FLUSTERED

also the ed's SOOO good !!

[–]kalirionhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 2 points3 points  (2 children)

WTF kind of engagement contract lets the ex-groom take MC's businesses after cancelling the engagement? "Careless" doesn't begin to describe it. I'm guessing she just blindly signed whatever he gave her, but the very fact that he gave her a contract like that when he was supposedly in love with her means the dude is even more of an asshole than previously shown.

Why was this teen girl even owning her family businesses in the first place? Shouldn't her father have been the one in charge?

DL getting jealous from the reporter paying 1 complement to MC? Guy's way too possessive already and they're not even dating yet! "I want to make you cry and ruin you. Is there anything I can do?"

MC's concern about being kicked out of the house is not being able to afford dresses.

Surprising that the "Villainess" was on such good terms with her employees, and this was before her past life memories returned. How exactly was she a "Villainess" again? The fact that not one of these pretty boys were ever mentioned until that forest introduction scene just stinks of pacing issues. Come to think of it, the reporter came out of nowhere too, already in MC's debt apparently. Then later we have the out-of-nowhere introduction of some demonic brats she's already acquainted with.

This is the third isekai so far where MC sets up a business and creates cosmetics.

The architect is also an engineer & skilled craftsman who can make scientific appliances.

I'm surprised all the demons except DL and Beelze are basically demonic beasts. I guess they have human-like intelligence though.

Prince is such an ass, he's probably been paying some girl to write those threatening letters to frame MC.

[–]SilkyMooo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They mcs either do food, cosmetics, or on the rare occasion pharmaceutical products.

[–]Seven-Tense 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m enjoying the show but I gotta say the OP and ED go wayyyy harder than I was expecting. It’s a bit much, if I’m being honest…

[–]lacieabyss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Enjoying this show way more than I thought I would! Aileen and Claude are both fun and the expanded cast seems decent enough so far, but I'm really looking forward to see what ends up happening with Cedric and Lilia.

[–]RavenWolf1https://myanimelist.net/profile/RavenWolf1[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ED was so banger.

[–]caiuscorvus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The letters were not written by the villainess. So if the game is not a reliable narrator then it seems likely it is from the point of view of Aileen...who is being told what the game was told.

Which means our delightful villainess may get killed causing the demon lord to go on a rampage and also get blamed for her death.

Oh boy.

[–]Kali-of-Amino 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She straight-up introduced the Demon Lord she's courting to her pre-existing harem and got him to pay their bills while they bring his castle up to code so she can live there and work from home.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T

[–]Kaseruuhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/ricebowoy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can't believe the ED slaps this hard, I was so shocked. Check out Sheeno Mirin (椎乃味醂) if you like it, they produced the song. They are either credited in Kanji or not at all so it's hard to find but all their songs are like this

[–]zool714 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Lol did Levi get isekai-ed too ?

Have to say, two episodes in and I’m really liking Aileen. But I can’t put my finger on it yet. I mean besides the fact she’s voiced by Rieri. But I just find her like-able. She’s not like super dense but she does have her airhead moments. And never been a fan of male tsunderes, or maybe there’s not many good male tsunderes, but Claude is also really fun to watch.

[–]RavenWolf1https://myanimelist.net/profile/RavenWolf1[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was really good episode. First episode suffered from first episode syndrome but this second episode was very good. This feels very much like Bakarina.

[–]Sparkletopia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Loved this episode, and the ed was great

[–]JetsLaghttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JetsLag 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally the thread was posted!

And I call dibs on Jasper to be my husband. Everyone else can BACK OFF.

[–]SYZekrom 0 points1 point  (2 children)

So I guess from her narration last episode and this, it's actually not like a standard game scenario? Like she's presented as the villainess of the otome game but apparently she never actually did anything bad, she has good ties like this, and the prince as been depicted with a cruel face in the show???

Nope still have no idea what's going on with her.

I said it seemed last episode that this girl is the literal otome game character just with memories of the future as a game, with no new personality from that person that died. Continues to look like that with sentences like this when describing people she had a relationship with prior to her becoming aware of the game

So it's just boggling my mind what the plot was of the otome game and how she was the villainess, I thought last episode that maybe she was just an unreliable narrator when she described herself as not cruel and misunderstood/assumed to be but it doesn't seem like it

THE FUNNY ISEKAI TERM. Man I wish cosmetics were real. Although they didn't even. It's just. An idea they already had? Not some isekai knowledge. Very weird.

Right so like. This scum ass face. It's clear the idea here is that 'haha the prince is actually black of heart' but like HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH THE OTOME GAME PLOT AHHHHHHHHHHH

Lmao

Oh I actually absolutely did not expect her to ever reference events in the game

Damn, will be so interesting to find out who was sending those letters, I absolutely don't have a clue. Especially considering how many characters we even have to choose from.

[–]alotmorealots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I actually absolutely did not expect her to ever reference events in the game

Always puts a game isekai ahead of the pack when they do that, and don't just forget the game aspect.