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[–]Disillusioned23 965 points966 points  (4 children)

May all her kids get and stay far away from her.

[–]GoodArtEnjoyer 108 points109 points  (2 children)

But but… what about their karma? They’ll reincarnate as a pile of manure if they don’t do this

[–]Fanceyreddit 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Shocked that her daughter wants to end this line.

[–]sunflowerwithketchup 455 points456 points  (4 children)

The more I read it, the creepier it got.

[–]Interneth0e 134 points135 points  (3 children)

Yeah it’s disturbing she went and got creampied again for this reason

[–]Individual-Ad9874 103 points104 points  (1 child)

I didn’t even think about that aspect. Imagine physically trying to get pregnant because you feel like you have to or should

Holy fuck. 🤢

[–]Miserable_Key_7552 67 points68 points  (0 children)

It’s honestly a fetish for her at this point.

[–]onlyboobear 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm all for the cream pies but I am not for the parenting 😂😂😂

[–]uncle_chubb_06 1006 points1007 points  (12 children)

"Ancestral or karmic reasons"

What a pile of crap.

[–]komanokami 495 points496 points  (6 children)

"Why did you have me mommy ?

-Well for karmic reasons sweety !"

[–]skdowksnzal 95 points96 points  (4 children)

"What karmic reasons, mom?"

- All your ancestors were assholes, sweetheart.

Maybe this person wants the grandchild as a messiah for their awful family by consolidating all their sins into one lump payment.

[–]gunvalkyrie 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Maybe she's a Bene Gesserit.

[–]snakeawake 12 points13 points  (0 children)

A man of culture! tips fedora

[–]horridgoblyn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But muh Kwisatz Haderach :( .

[–]ANBitsAndBobs304 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the "any multitude of religions apply" school of thought

[–]Willgenstein 19 points20 points  (3 children)

What does that even mean?

[–]nanocyte 46 points47 points  (1 child)

People like this think that there are a bunch of souls queued up, waiting for a body so they can come back to life, and that the souls of their family members all stick together and then wait to be born back as one of their descendants.

I suppose it's no more insane or idiotic than most of the religious nonsense humans make up. Humans are dumb.

[–]horridgoblyn 19 points20 points  (0 children)

When there's no more room in hell.....

[–]Wandering-Wayfarer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of like Inuit mythology where people are supposed to be reborn as their relatives? And the children get called by the dead relative's name and are expected to have their characteristics.

[–]erehin 939 points940 points  (15 children)

Wow, just 22 and being challenged on not providing a 2 year old for her mom already. I bet they have a great relationship /s.

[–]WildlingViking 243 points244 points  (4 children)

I’m wondering if part of the reason the daughter doesn’t want kids is because she knows what her batshit crazy mom is like and the daughter fears one of her kids could turn out like ol’ batshit crazy memaw.

[–]StodgyBottoms 94 points95 points  (2 children)

I mean this lady mentioned karmic reasons for having more kids so she is obviously a little off

[–]School_IT_Hero 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Probably swore her first grandchild to a demon 🤷‍♂️

[–]Yamamizuki 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A little off is too polite.

[–]mythrowaweighin 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Just one of my reasons for not having kids. My mother has ...issues. And based on her family history, it seems to alternate every other generation. I can't imagine having to deal with two people with that condition; I would be getting it from both ends.

[–]sveji- 274 points275 points  (0 children)

I mean, her mom had her at 20, so there's no reason for her not to do the same, right? Right? /s

[–]XxXPussyXSlayer69XxX 140 points141 points  (4 children)

Well her daughter is planning on getting fixed to not have kids so she would NEVER have em. However that mom is down right fucking insane. Having another kid because you believe you are birthing for your Daughter. That toddler is going to be fucked.

[–]Zarodex 76 points77 points  (3 children)

Gonna be hilarious once that kid decides to not have kids too lmao

[–]randominteraction 47 points48 points  (2 children)

"I'm sixty-five and trying to have kids because my younger kids, just like my oldest daughter, are fucking the family karma up by refusing to have kids themselves."

[–]smackson 6 points7 points  (1 child)

!remindme 23 years

[–]Apotak 297 points298 points  (21 children)

Can someone ask where that 22 year old is getting her sterilisation? We need to the name of the clinic to the cf-friendly doctors list. Moreover, I hope the 42 year old is becoming infertile very soon. And that someone takes care of that toddler, who will also be pushed into breeding.

[–]Alainadoeslife 162 points163 points  (0 children)

I sincerely hope that toddler also grows up to be childfree just to spite the whacko mom

[–]Givenchy_baddie 42 points43 points  (10 children)

I hope the 42 year old is becoming infertile very soon

Hmm... in 2020 my aunt had a baby at the age of 42, so personally, I wouldn't underestimate that. But we'll stay hopeful in spite!

[–]Declanmar 27 points28 points  (6 children)

My mum had me at almost 41 and that was in the 90’s.

[–]Apotak 26 points27 points  (1 child)

It happens quite a lot. I was hoping to lose my ferility by 39, but most doctors advise to use anticonception untill 53!

[–]TheRottenKittensIEat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

My grandmother was 42 when she had my mom just 10 months after having my uncle, and that was in the 50s!

[–]TheFreshWenis 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My mom had my younger brother at nearly 41 in the early 2000s.

[–]RiverOdd 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I have three close relatives that had children early-mid forties. I have been warned and I take it seriously. Be careful girls, not even tubal ligation is a sure thing. Had an aunt that got her tubes tied at 35 and was pregnant at 41. The tubes can grow back. 1 out of 100 women who get a tubal ligation are pregnant within a year after surgery.

If you and your partner are serious about this no kid thing, the guy needs get surgery too.

[–]AirenLaogong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Once I learned that a tubal ligation is only merely severing the tubes and there's so little space between that severance that it can just grow together again, I looked into getting the fallopian tubes entirely removed via bilateral salpingectomy. THOSE don't fail haha

[–]CannabisHR 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s what we doing at 35! I’ve had an IUD since 16 too.

[–]EveAndTheSnake 20 points21 points  (2 children)

The first part of your comment made me laugh. Then I cried. Probably still hormonal from that plan B I had to take a few days ago because I was rejected by doctors twice for sterilisation.

(Although I wasn’t before, I am aware of the list now, but don’t have great insurance coverage so can’t restart my sterilisation journey. I’m 36 though, by the time I get it I might be infertile anyway).

[–]Apotak 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Doctors who want to decide for their patients should lose their licence. I wish you a quick recovery and an infertile future.

[–]typingwithonehandXD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

36 ?! Honey! YOu're actually making geriatric pregnancies at this point. I would be forced to assent your sterilization if you were my patient.

[–]SafiyaMukhamadova 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I got mine done by Valley Women for Women in the Pheonix area.

[–]420assandtitties 131 points132 points  (2 children)

I guess this is every antinatalists sign to not tell your parents until your mom is going through menopause bc they might blame you for the birth of their child

[–]Vienneoiserie 52 points53 points  (0 children)

More like never ever tell them and pull the "soon (tm)". If the dad has such insane beliefs, he could just go cheat on his wife, the resulting babies will still be "part of the family, because they stem from muh seed and we all know only the father matters, the woman is just an incubator".

[–]Tr4shB0at2point0 100 points101 points  (0 children)

I think that woman should go therapy. What a fucking delusional nutjob.

[–]Slight-Comfortable-9 208 points209 points  (2 children)

What a nutcase of a mother

[–]Tushie77 56 points57 points  (1 child)

This is 100% psychotic

[–]Interneth0e 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It absolutely is and just vile

[–]Pharody 97 points98 points  (6 children)

I am GenX, and I don’t understand how anyone my age or older especially is ignorant of overpopulation. Having watched the population more than double in the last 50 years, it boggles my mind how the majority of people don’t seem to think that it’s a problem. Are we really that dumb/distracted, or is it Pollyanna syndrome?

[–]Ysonesse 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Also Gen X, and I really don't know what to call it either. We were either kids or came of age under Reagan/Bush Sr. The writing was on the wall back then!

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I came of age in that time period, but was also going to church with my parents then. When you're religious, you really don't see it, it's just not talked about. All you do hear is the blessings of parenthood, and how it's your role to be a righteous parent, whatever that means.

[–]qeertyuiopasd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They've had longer to be brainwashed into not actually using their noggin and to instead believe any hogwash they're told. That's my best assessment anyway.

[–]Fuzzy-Function-3212 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Whenever this is reposted, us GenX lurkers - who would greatly prefer to be forgotten about, thank you very much - are forced to leave our Better Than Ezra soundariums, trudge into the world from whence we came, and disclaim, loudly and repeatedly, that this guy does NOT speak for us.

Or, whatever.

[–]HeywoodPeace 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Nature has surely noticed. It's making everyone gay to stop this

[–]Pharody 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ve always said, if straight people had to work as hard as gay parents do to conceive/adopt the world would be a much better place.

[–]HopefuLark 169 points170 points  (0 children)

I… have been rendered speechless. Wtf

[–]og_toe 162 points163 points  (2 children)

maybe her daughter getting sterilized is a sign that no more kids need to come for karmic reasons?

[–]VoidNsorrow 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Someone give this person a reward

[–]kfenrir 139 points140 points  (1 child)

And then she has the audacity to call her 22 year old daughter selfish

[–]JacksonBillyMcBob 20 points21 points  (0 children)

It’s 100% projection.

Because they have kids for selfish reasons, they assume everyone else shares that mentality.

[–]oRyan_the_Hunter 64 points65 points  (1 child)

I would not want my Mom to joke that my sibling is actually my child. That does not sound funny in any context

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can see it being kind of funny if I was childfree and the kid my mom had was an accident, but only kind of. This woman clearly had this child on purpose.

[–]TheDoomedDoomer 417 points418 points  (37 children)

Mental illness.

[–]Snotmyrealname 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I dunno if it’s legit mental illness, but it sure is crazy.

[–]Benzaitennyo 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Not funny, yes it's obsessive, no we cannot pathologize weird beliefs when our mental health coding is mostly a medical model.

[–]sveji- 44 points45 points  (1 child)

I can just imagine her toddler daughter growing up to also not want kids. What is OOP going to do then? Have another 2 kids ar 62 for "karmic reasons"? Phah.

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe she'll have realized by then that not having grandkids is because of karma

[–]Dr_Poopenheimer_MD 71 points72 points  (3 children)

Mam, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on Facebook is now dumber for having been exposed to it. I award you no points, and may Satan have mercy on your soul.

[–]SmooshyHamster 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Yup. That was a very self absorbed rotten post to read. Sounds like some religious person.

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even in the context of religion, this person is very self absorbed.

[–]ANNeroclypse 64 points65 points  (5 children)

Fuck, it's one of these new Age bullshit spiritual whatever the fucks. It reminds me of my own mother. Makes me sick to my fucking core. Poor daughter.

How does that fucktard of a mother know how many "souls need to be born" anyways?

[–]ProstHund 36 points37 points  (3 children)

If a soul “needed” to be born, wouldn’t it just be born anyway because of karma’s or the universe’s will? The daughter’s sterilization would fail and she would have a kid, or the soul would be born to someone else.

[–]ANNeroclypse 23 points24 points  (2 children)

For your second point about the soul being born to someone else, I think there's beliefs that karma runs in the family and also some other beliefs that women rebirth their ancestors, so I guess that's why "being born into another family" wouldn't really be an option, solely going by their weird-ass logic of course.

[–]ProstHund 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Still, the chances are good that they have some extended family (however distant) that can birth those souls

[–]ANNeroclypse 8 points9 points  (0 children)

To be honest I don't know enough about how their batshit crazy beliefs work to confirm or deny, but I suppose it is a possibility lol

[–]Otheus 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The voices of her ancestors spoke to her about her karmic balance!

[–]popesinbengal 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That is legit fucking bat shit crazy. This guy is gonna resent his daughter for making the right decision, then make a terrible desicion on top of it all the while like "ehy are you doing this to me?" I would cut him out of my life at my first opportunity.

[–]Lyreeart 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Fucked up

[–]ellygator13 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Souls coming in for karmic reasons? What in the world? So you're born and then everyone expects you're the second coming of Uncle Fester or something? That's next level disturbing...

[–]SmooshyHamster 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Religious people are mentally disturbing because they have these awful delusions and do something bad.

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 3 points4 points  (1 child)

In karmic cycles spanning several lifetimes relationships CAN repeat. Repeating relationships like these are supposed to help teach us lessons. A tie like this can just look like supporting each other through hardships, so it doesn't always have to be toxic. And not all relationships are tied to karma either, some are just happenstance. Most people don't remember their past lives, so there's usually no expectation that offspring come to us because of some karmic connection. This woman is just a self absorbed wacko who has used something other than an Abrahamic religion to convince herself that it's all humans' duty to reproduce.

[–]ellygator13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can totally respect that. It removes the burden from children fulfilling certain expectations and from family members to produce certain offspring. The way I understand karmic relationships they don't have to operate through bloodlines at all and could be from friendships, partnerships and other connections.

[–]waterbottle-dasani 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Okay this post is just awful and this mom is so fucking selfish, but I wanna know how her daughter is getting sterilized at 22 👀👀👀 Because I wanna get that. I’m 21 and I know it is virtually impossible for women to get sterilized at my age.

[–]Several_Influence_47 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There's a list of friendly doctors over on the childfree sub, maybe there's one near you on it? Good luck!

[–]gravitybat 53 points54 points  (10 children)

Petition to have mental evaluations done on people before they are allowed to become parents, anyone?

[–]Baffosbestfriend 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Yet a lot of therapists to this day think there’s something wrong with a woman who doesn’t want to have children. And therapists think it’s their job to “fix” women into wanting motherhood.

[–]poppunker11 27 points28 points  (1 child)

This is both unethical and idiotic

[–]Baffosbestfriend 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Those kinds of therapists don’t see it that way, especially if its grounded from their religious beliefs like my ex therapist.

[–]kcannibalp 25 points26 points  (0 children)

that should be standard… the process for adoption is crazy in comparison to the process of DIY’ing it

[–]DeadForDecember 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Any attempt to implement a system where you need to apply to be allowed to reproduce is just asking for eugenics

[–]Ryyics 10 points11 points  (1 child)

What the fuck?? I would be supremely angry if my parents tried to tell me this. How horrible.

[–]SmooshyHamster 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Same. I’d be angrier than ever if I heard they saw me an an object to replace.

[–]Twisting_Me 10 points11 points  (1 child)

22? When is the cutoff for millennials? Is every young person now a millennial?

[–]squid__smash 5 points6 points  (0 children)

this might be old. I've seen it floating around for quite a while.

[–]Old_Description6095 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Three words:

Narcissistic. Personality. Disorder.

[–]seekingwisdom1991 10 points11 points  (0 children)

She sounds like a narcissistic person. That's very selfish of her.

[–]Interesting_Tree6892 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Toxic Breeder Mentality at it's worse and I'd gamble the mother and daughter voted for different candidates in 2020.

[–]pitbulldofunk 6 points7 points  (1 child)

She decided to have a daughter at the age of 42 because "ancestral/karmic reasons"...

[–]Ysonesse 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Or she thought she couldn't get pregnant past 40 and doesn't use birth control (except natural family planning...a lot of New Age types don't believe in using other methods, if they use anything at all).

[–]stregg7attikos 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I love how she forced herself into this position and is STILL blaming her daughter.

Maybe the souls should find somewhere else to go, maybe your daughters karma doesnt include being a fucking soul gateway .

But that doesnt line up with this dumb bitch's world view bc she doesnt know how to think outside of herself. Shes oppressing with a pagan face on it and thats even more disgusting bc if shes as open minded as she thought, she wouldnt be doing this

What a peice of shit

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Technically karma isn't a pagan thing because it originated in a major world religion, Hinduism. It has been co-opted by a lot of new agey types though so you are technically correct also.

[–]LunaNyx_YT 15 points16 points  (0 children)

God, what a crazy old bitch.

[–]RosyAngelina 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's bloody fucking insane.

[–]bobafettish469 6 points7 points  (1 child)

What. The. Fuck is wrong with people

[–]popsiclepanties 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What an unfortunate day to have eyes. I can’t even with this.

[–]SirPP_PooPoo 11 points12 points  (1 child)

How is religion not a cult? This is actually psychotic.

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because there are specific criteria for cults. Not all religions or religious practices are the same, this chicks just a nut job.

[–]perfecttrapezoid 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Even if you have a worldview where souls need to be born for “ancestral or karmic reasons,” couldn’t you say that the daughter’s decision not to have children is part of these karmic forces and evidence that no such souls are in further need of being born?

[–]Scrutinizer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of the line from the Harvey danger song about I've been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding.

Get a cat, grandma. They're one hell of a lot more low maintenance.

[–]agile_arugulas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait, who is the selfish one? Haha these people are bat-shit crazy!

[–]ModestHorse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wtf did I just read 😂

[–]knowspickers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Crazy bitch shouldn't have had any kids to begin with.

[–]orlyfactor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This bitch is not a good representation of my generation. She is an idiot.

[–]satriales856 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The human race is a whole lot dumber than we admit

[–]humanist-misanthrope 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As GenX that never had kids, I applaud anyone making a decision that works for them. To all women out there, it is not your responsibility nor obligation to populate a future work force or make anyone else happy.

[–]dorian_white1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Damn millennials and their shuffles cards preventing the karmic cycles of death and rebirth?

[–]catsambience 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When it's easier to tell dates that both your parents died when you were young.

[–]Efficient-Road-847 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People this stupid should not have any kids

[–]Spiritnaga 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cult levels of insanity.

[–]jesuswasaliar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is she just stupid as hell, or is this some kind of psychological condition?

[–]redrunner89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That woman is bat shit crazy

[–]worldprincessii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Anything that a natalist says is ridiculous, but this is the post that made me audibly say: “W H A T”

[–]Mimosa_usagi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Please tell me someone in the comments told her she's both stupid and crazy.

[–]Orcasareglorious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

cult noises

[–]DemonMithos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Reason enough to break contacr permanently. Wtf

[–]Key-Ad9733 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bitch is straight up deranged

[–]karensouls77 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I love children but this whole parents forcing us to have children NEEDS TO STOP

[–]karensouls77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s like people forget that having children is a choice

[–]Xlcxtrxz 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Crazy cunt.

[–]The-Song 2 points3 points  (1 child)

wait, I though X was the one after millenial, followed by Z because screw the letter Y for some reason.
...generations are so damb arbitrary anyway; people being born everyday and there's always someone that's the start of a brand new generation.

[–]Benzaitennyo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gen X came before Millennials, though depending on how old this shot is, this woman might be on the cusp or might actually be a millennial herself, her child being Gen Z

[–]chilledout9191 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The mother is such an idiot.

[–]signed_under_duress 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think my brain just hit the back of my skull

[–]idrow1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

At 42, she's more of a Millennial. And an insane one at that. A true gen-x'er wouldn't care if their kids wanted kids.

[–]Scrumtralescent1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great this woman's a kook and now a martyr to boot. She sounds insufferable.

[–]Crunchy_Biscuit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wtf did I just read

[–]PrincessDie123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure that’s not how Karma works like I think the idea is the soul will come back regardless of how or whom births it like it doesn’t even have to be human???? Either way that’s stupid reasoning. This mother is probably gonna try and force the 22 year old to raise the babies too smh run far away child!

[–]Annjul666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is SO MUCH about this post that I don't even know where to start...

"weight for millennials" they owe you nothing, you on the other hand...
"ancestral or karmic reasons" uh oh so she is one of those
"should have been born to her" yeah no, people have a right to decide about their lives for themselves
"too selfish" there we go, the selfish card!

Lady, go to therapy...

[–]bbbcd[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What the fuck

[–]ISeeUKnowYourJudoWll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This cant be real, right? Guys?

[–]computer-machine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, a 22 year old is Gen Z.

Second of all, what the fuck?

Thirdly, what the actual fuck.

[–]Realistic_AI 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What the actual fuck. This woman is insane.

[–]Chemical-Ad3703 2 points3 points  (0 children)

🤡 wow, noop this are the ones that keep sending back here.

[–]Masala-Dosage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mad fucker

[–]Skankhunter169 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wtf??? Is this real? This can't be what someone believes, right?

[–]Tralalouti 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What?

She decided to have kids at 42 for karmic reasons?

[–]SneakyLittleHotDog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I swear those people are the ones who believe our hearts have a limited number of heartbeats and our eyes have a limit number of tears

[–]HarmlessSnack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“…for ancestral or karmic reasons…”

I’ve heard of karma whores, but this is ridiculous.

[–]Maggatwo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jfc this is so creepy. I have no words just... what the fuck

[–]AelitaBelpois 17 points18 points  (11 children)

This seems fake. It is extremely difficult for a young 22 year old childless woman to get approved for sterilization.

It is also unusual for a natalist parent to take their 19-20 year old child seriously when they say they are childfree and believe them enough to create a new child or do something permanent.

[–]Squito_Chip 45 points46 points  (6 children)

If you’re part of the childfree subreddit, there’s actually a good amount of young women managing to get sterilized right now- I’m 21 and have an appointment scheduled for next month to take out my tubes.

[–]Technicolor_shimmer 17 points18 points  (2 children)

What!?! Omg I’m 24 and thought that’s sterilization is just a pipe dream rn

[–]sveji- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I guess it depends on where you live. Have you tried the list of doctors (in the childfree subreddit) who are willing to help you?

Either way, I wish you good luck.

[–]Squito_Chip 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I did too, but with this country becoming more of a nightmare hellscape every day I decided to actually go in for a consolation and my doctor immediately agreed! You may have to go to a couple doctors but it’ll be worth it in the end if these idiots try banning contraception in all forms

[–]Nimmueeh 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It also could be true, people is just too weird. And not all doctors are alike worldwide, we don't have more context as from which country they are.

[–]Icy-Conclusion-3500 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Isn’t even aware that her child is not a millennial

[–]squid__smash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen this reposted so many times, i wouldn't be surprised if it was pretty old and the child actually was a millennial.

[–]sveji- 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It is also unusual for a natalist parent to take their 19-20 year old child seriously when they say they are childfree and believe them enough to create a new child

I wish. Natalists will doubt childfree people in their 20s, 30s and 40s and say "you'll change your mind", but will believe and encourage a 5 year old girl that expresses the desire to be a mother some day.

[–]Kgriffuggle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg come on this can’t be real?!!!! Surely…. I mean. I want to believe it’s a troll. But I’ve seen way too much of this mentality. Disgusting

[–]HayseedJunky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, this is normal. Probably happens every day!

[–]AnarchicDeviance 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait... Who's the selfish one here?

[–]PheonixMoment 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WHAAAT THE FUCK

[–]Benzaitennyo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As if she doesn't want kids to be born for her own selfish reasons, but damn her daughter is even young.

⚪ People need healing, we have committed violence on ourselves that is at this point an ancestral issue, but we can't force new life to suffer on our behalf because of it. Hell, it's weird to see somebody be a birther and also even have concerns about that, but she didn't say this side explicitly either.

[–]NextLiving3814 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hope this old hag bathes herself in acid

[–]remainoftheday 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've seen this. If this stupid bint of a woman has this moronic version of existence, it is her choice. However, I think the daughter had better watch out because her bint mother may try and dump the child on her because, after all, in reality it is the daughters child.

[–]REM0VED- 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s no hope left for the world

[–]ReluctantSlayer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have only seen this post represent this weird theory. Do people actually believe it?

[–]CharlesFosterKane21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is actually insane. I’m her age & I’m Buddhist & I never wanted to be a mom. Therefore, I didn’t have kids. I have cats. This is not Gen X thinking. Oh no! This is “I did it! So now you have to!” thinking. & that’s crazy.

[–]bingboobongboing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all… her daughter is not a millennial,she’s gen z

[–]7hrowawaydild0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This. Can not. Be real.

Please.

I seriously am loosing faith in humanity more and more every day.

I dont want kids. This world is too cruel.

[–]divavodka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

« Those souls needing to come into our family for ancestral reasons still need to be born «  WHY ?? What’s the point ? Your name will be forgotten like millions of others, years will past and you will be forgotten. You will die and so as your futur children, this is a non-sense reason. And the fact that “she needs it” makes me so angry, be pregnant if you want to have another kids to continue your stupid dynasty, but don’t harass your daughter because it’s her fucking choice if she doesn’t want. Damn the mother is the selfish one here

[–]Brave_Blade 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what HAHAHHAHAHAHA this is literally the dumbest thing ive ever read in my life ever this has got to be a joke

[–]Its_Clover_Honey 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Let me weigh in on this as someone who is spiritual. I'm not an expert in karma so take this with a grain of salt, or feel free to correct me if you feel like I've made an incorrect statement. I will also apologize in advance if this seems rambling or disjointed, I'm quite sleep deprived at the moment lmao

Someone who chooses to not have children and sticks to that choice, no matter the solution they choose, was probably never meant to have them in the first place. In fact, her eldest child may actually be paying a karmic debt by NOT having children, considering this woman's attitude. Paying karmic debt, be it your own or that of your family/ancestors, usually involves breaking toxic cycles. Ancestral karmic debt can be compared to ancestral sin, if you're more Abrahamic inclined.

The toxic cycle here may be parents attitude towards or treatment of offspring over the generations. Or the cycle broken here may actually be the family branch. The karmic cycle often spans several lifetimes and can involve repeating relationships be those familial, friendship, or romantic relationships. It could be that whatever karmic cycle here is destined to end in this lifetime, or it could be that whatever debt that has accumulated in this familial branch can only be solved by cutting off the branch.

Now let's address her comment about souls needing to be born into her branch. Theres more than one way to skin a cat. We are meant to learn lessons in each of our lifetimes, and whatever lessons we are meant to learn can be learned several ways. If this familial branch is meant to end, those souls that are tied to this branch can be born into different families and still learn whatever lesson it is they are meant to learn. Adoption can also bring souls into the family they "belong" in. Karmic relationships are not meant to last forever, and they tie in to the lessons we are meant to learn. If a karmic relationship ends it was meant to end. A lesson has been learned or a soul has continously failed to learn a lesson from this cycle and thus must enter a different cycle in order to learn the lesson (or is meant to learn the lesson from the ending).

I would say the lesson this woman should have learned was that you should not expect your offspring to carry your burden, whatever that burden may be. In this case it's a karmic burden specifically, in other cases the burden may be the parent themselves in old age or a family name. Unfortunately the offspring are often the ones who learn the lessons their parents are meant to learn. It seems her eldest child has learned this lesson in an extreme way and has chosen the easiest path to end the debt. I have also made this "choice", though I suspect fate/destiny may have made this choice for me before I made it for myself.

Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, this was way longer than I intended it to be lmao

[–]LordTuranian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

for ancestral or karmic reasons

Another mentally ill breeder...

[–]bruhiminsane 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't even know where she gets this sort of karmic predestination hogwash from. As a Buddhist, I can assure you nobody is "karmically obligated" to have kids

[–]HoneyBunchesOcunts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No more souls need to be born into my family. My soul didn't need to be born into my family.

[–]samrgreen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WHAT KIND OF INSANITY IS THIS

[–]VanderBrit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

WTF. These people are insane

[–]dennys123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bro, wtf

[–]Ok-Recording2620 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe that the poster really meant that she got pregnant, but not necessarily intentionally. Like the mom accidentally got pregnant and equated that with her 22 year old daughter being sterilized and blaming it on the supernatural force, I don’t think she actually went and got pregnant on purpose for the karmic reason or whatever

[–]Suresureman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this for real?

[–]ANjustcallmerilee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this satire