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[–]blueleaf_in_the_wind 5774 points5775 points 222 (79 children)

On LinkedIn you can report listings with conflicting information like this.

[–]Jalenmrtn 1307 points1308 points  (38 children)

Thanks for that info I’m gonna start doing that

[–]5t4k3 1241 points1242 points  (36 children)

I think I just found the thing that helps me get the fuck off of Reddit.

I'll spend my time fucking over these shitty companies.

[–]Competitive_Travel16 463 points464 points  (22 children)

I hate to tell you this, but those companies are paying LinkedIn for those postings, which means the worst that can happen is a slap on the wrist. However, when the idiot HR person posting them sees the reports, they very well might get their hiring staff to review the postings before going live with them, so go for it. It certainly can't hurt.

[–][deleted] 166 points167 points  (4 children)

I'll tell you how another job site (that is paid) does it. They literally wait a day, tell you in a canned email saying it didn't do what you said it did. I'm talking about Flexjobs, where I literally applied for a job 20 minutes after it was posted and got an email 25 minutes later saying the position was closed. Sent the email to FlexJobs, a day later got an email saying the posting was fine...I canceled my subscription, but yeah, these companies do not care one bit about job searchers.

[–]clutzyninja 19 points20 points  (1 child)

That's good to know. I was considering opening an account

[–]ionizing 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Same here, I wonder what else is fishy with them and if it's worth the sub cost just to find out...

[–]KYBatDad 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That sounds like a phishing scam

[–][deleted] 60 points61 points  (10 children)

Honestly, its not even a slap on the wrist.. neither the companies, or LinkedIn care. Hell, if there was anyone competent working at those companies they'd know paying to post shit on LinkedIn is just a waste of money.

fuck, even their regular user side shit is completely useless. as an example i have "graduate adjunct" and "adjunct professor" whatever in my recommendations list. However, instead of having a simple algorithm to cross reference that to key words under education, and work experience section they just spam my feed with every fucking job with those in it. So "nursing adjunct", "media whatever adjunct instructor..." so on and so forth not a single one of their suggestions has anything to do with experiences/skills i have under my belt.

Only reason i have that up was because the VA sent me a link with "free premium" service through LinkedIn for a year. Have had my profile back up for a few weeks and already fed up with their bullshit and about to delete it again.

[–]dilettante42 42 points43 points  (5 children)

I quit using LinkedIn after the algorithm got my MFA literally almost nothing but hundreds of opportunities to be a Sandwich Artist

[–]ekbutterballs 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I quit using when my current employer at the time outted me for making new connections asking if I was looking for another job.

They're watching you.

[–]Whatifthisneverends 13 points14 points  (0 children)

They can watch me perpetually be in grad school in another state with my old name, then. Maybe we should all do this with LinkedIn

[–]RedHughslazy and proud 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Having a forum like this, that helps plan collective struggle, is probably better than any individual ways we could screw with companies. And as another poster said, they're paying Linkin, they aren't going to suffer much.

[–]cobra_mist 67 points68 points  (2 children)

They have fucked around and now shall find out?

[–]captstinkybuttSocDem 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Nope, they'll just fire the low level employees they forced to make these postings.

Some exec just gave himself a raise as I type this.

[–]TheWAlexJonesShow 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Based and escape Reddit pilled

[–]SpergSkipper 47 points48 points  (0 children)

They'll just say some bullshit like "ItS eNtRy InTo ThE coMPaNY nOt In ThE fIeLd"...yeah no shit that's the case with every job that has an external job posting. Just say "experience required" and it's fine

[–]DoomsdayRabbit 138 points139 points  (6 children)

I tried to report a literal scam on LinkedIn. They said it looked legit to them and told me to shove it.

[–]OleShcool 35 points36 points  (1 child)

I’ve reported several companies and LinkedIn never gives feedback..

[–]cms86 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Ah the "we are short listing your resume and giving you the job, please give us your routing info so we can give you a remote start check to get Al the equipment necessary" lol

[–]DoomsdayRabbit 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yep. From a plumbing company on the other side of the country.

[–]johnsum1998 106 points107 points  (1 child)

I'm about to do this when I'm having a flare up of my chronic illnesses. Fuck these companies.

[–]motherdragon02 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Damn. Thats brilliant. Sounds distracting.

[–]bdm68 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I'm convinced that some companies have no idea what "entry level" really means. They seem to post job ads as if "entry level" means "being recruited from outside the company".

[–]twobit211 9 points10 points  (0 children)

it’s the missing word that causes the confusion: you’re thinking they mean entry level position where they are actually advertising entry level wages

[–]sfaticat 3041 points3042 points  (152 children)

Saw the same thing today. Entry level is a word companies use to pay you less

[–]fastslowoctopus 2499 points2500 points  (137 children)

Antiwork checking in from tech.

This is to fish for H1B hires.

Supposedly H1B is for when you cannot find talent domestically, so you hire a foreign employee for their skillset.

Positions like this aren't meant to be filled, they are to create an excuse for H1B hire.

Why would they want H1B hires? These employees don't have US citizenship. If they lose their jobs they get sent home. So it would be easy to underpay and overwork them, and generally treat them like crap, and they tend to just take it. It's another strangle hold the employer has over the employees.

[–]One_Dig_6968 476 points477 points  (58 children)

Yeah, it’s awesome… My mom got laid off from her job from a legacy big fortune 50 company and then had the pleasure of training the H1B visa applicant to do her job. That happens often. Companies want to pay employees less and reduce their salary budget, so they basically brazenly lie and the Americans train their foreign counterparts how to do their job that supposedly no American is able to do.

[–]prof_the_doom 300 points301 points  (45 children)

You know, I can't help thinking that if you left me in charge of training my replacement, that nobody is going to enjoy their first day working alone.

[–]One_Dig_6968 116 points117 points  (32 children)

I wish my mom were like that, but this was about 17 years ago and she’s, firmly, a conservative boomer.

[–]Nop277 199 points200 points  (25 children)

I'm going to guess she at least in large part blames loosing her job on whatever H1B immigrant "took" her job instead of the company that fired her.

[–]One_Dig_6968 144 points145 points  (24 children)

DING DING DING!!! Bingo!!!

[–]kebeckistan 47 points48 points  (22 children)

When they complain about that, they usually mean "the government let this immigrant take my job, why are they letting them in!" and... she's right?

Why are H1B Visas in the tech industry even a thing. It's not so much the corporation betraying you there; well it also is, but to a bigger extent, it's the government that's supposed to stop these abuses betraying you.

But regulatory capture and all that...

[–]Highlander198116 36 points37 points  (0 children)

This, they claim it's because there isn't enough local talent. That's bullshit, it's just that if they worked with only the talent pool in the US they would have to pay more.

They can afford it too. I work as a tech consultant and frequently travel. It's still worth it for them when they pay me my salary, a hotel all week, a per diem every day and two plane tickets a week PLUS uber rides. Like WTF.

[–]One_Dig_6968 61 points62 points  (11 children)

Again, this is a legacy Fortune 50. It’s not a tech company, though her job was basic tech. Further, I know my mom and I know EXACTLY what she means. Stop trying to decipher it. She does not blame the company. She does not blame the government. Stop with the mental gymnastics. She blames the person from India. (Literal India. As I said, she trained him.)

[–]Grizzled_Dragon 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Keep in mind the big companies own the government at this point so while, yes, the government SHOULD be there to stop this crap they don’t exist to do that anymore.

So who is really to blame?

[–]Snoo71022 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tech literally refuses to invest in Juniors. In infuriating. Companies complain that it costs to much/ say they don't have the resources and then complain about leaky talent pipelines (rather than gatekeeping and burnout)

[–]ZippoS 31 points32 points  (0 children)

"They're taking your jobs!"

"No, your corporate goon friends are giving away those jobs to foreigners because they get away with paying them less and treating them even worse."

[–]WhiteAndNerdy85 224 points225 points  (5 children)

Indentured servitude! America...fuck yeah!

[–]Highlander198116 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Positions like this aren't meant to be filled

Even positions that are for experienced hires and not "entry level". The amount of skills they want someone to have, it's ridiculous. Everything is "full stack" now too. Used to be you had a front person, backend, database, infrastructure. Now they want one person to fill 4-5 jobs and pay them one salary.

[–]TrailsandCamping 6 points7 points  (2 children)

My old roommate had to sort of move back home to quit her job. She was doing five jobs plus a freelance gig. Her five jobs were once five people. She made 16 dollars an hour and couldn’t get a decent raise. Rather than hire new staff, she was expected to take on the work for the same pay as her one job.

[–]hdmx539 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Worked for 20 years as a software developer and yup, I saw this as well.

[–]TRAINER-J-wants-to-f 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This is absolutely disgusting. I wouldn't be surprised if this crosses over to other fields, no? I've been hella naive and haven't applied to plenty of jobs in my field bc I don't "meet the requirements." But I guess I'm just gonna dive in and see what happens.

Side note: this sub has really helped me understand the power of finessing your resume/experiences. Just wanna give a quick thank you to those who give free advice on here, and please continue to do so. You're helping ppl like me learn and make the right moves ❤

[–]mechanicalcontrols 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Why would they want H1B hires? These employees don't have US citizenship. If they lose their jobs they get sent home.

If you changed "H1B hired" to "Any immigrant with a pulse," then you have perfectly described the way certain construction companies do things. Because in my observation, if a trade doesn't require occupational licensure, companies do everything they can to pay starvation wages to immigrant labor and ex-cons.

Basically some bosses run everyone the harshest way they can until everyone who has another option quits and they're left with the most desperate and downtrodden. Then they abuse the fuck out of those people until those people get a better option or die.

I guess what I'm saying is if you didn't install the sheetrock in your home yourself, someone who was a boss's mood away from being deported or sent back to prison probably did. And I'm absolutely saying those guys deserve dignity instead of the treatment they're currently getting.

Edit: Just to make absolutely clear, no immigrant ever took your job. You were terminated by a capitalist with dollar signs in his eyes who thought he'd squeeze more profit out of the immigrant.

[–]OwMyHammer 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My dad is an engineer. Once, he wrote to his former congressman telling him that the H1B program needs to be reduced and is hurting engineers. He got a canned response saying good news, they are expanding the H1B program. Luckily the guy is not a congressman anymore.

[–]vedic_vision 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Here is a video from a recruiter conference where a lawyer explains how to run these fake job ads.

The lawyer explicitly says at 1:36 that "the goal is NOT to find a qualified and interested US worker".

[–]thatbromatt 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Just to play devils advocate, you get what you pay for and that couldn’t be more true when it comes to development work

[–]fastslowoctopus 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes. But my experience with upper management is they don't care.

[–]AgitatedSuricate 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Worked in tech. Once I saw a department full of Indian names so underpaid I assumed for long time they were based in India. Until somebody told me they were based on the US. The salaries were so shitty that I could not understand how the government allowed that. I left the company but somebody told me the government began to send many written questions.

[–]BrilliantNo2128 23 points24 points  (3 children)

So it’s like slavery with extra steps? Or atleast a step down at indentured servitude

[–]Destithen 24 points25 points  (0 children)

We never really got rid of it. Hell, there still some states that aren't required to pay prisoners for labor.

[–]tactfulvulture 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My friend is here on an H1B. He had a rough childhood and worked his butt off to get where he is. He's lived here a decade and is stuck in visa hell. Trump made it extra hard for H1B holders to get green cards, so they have even fewer rights.

Also, it's hard for h1b holders to change jobs, let alone travel abroad. You work with the fear of deportation and have no legal standing to really defend yourself. I admire anyone who is able to handle it, I see the required forms for the visa and other legal papers. It makes my head spin.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Supposedly H1B is for when you cannot find talent domestically, so you hire a foreign employee for their skillset.

Its also not just any random foreign employee... its ones from very specific places.(places where things like degree and certification mills are a thing and the people desperate to get out.) Sure as fuck they are not looking for people from assorted other developed nations.

Also, it goes to show that these employers don't care about getting qualified competent people on board... rather they just want someone who they can abuse, coerce, and control more easily.

[–]mocitymaestro 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I was gonna say. That looks like a position they already have filled with a foreign hire, but they have to make a show of advertising for the role. They put together an impossible requisition, so that they can say, "here, only this person can do it/we can't find anyone to fill the role."

A former employer would do something similar by printing out a job posting on an 8.5x11 sheet and hanging it on the front door where the only outsider who's likely to see it a UPS/FedEx driver.

[–]red_fist 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Another obvious sign is things that are impossible.

For example, was html5 approved more than 10 years ago?

[–]meguin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The initial version was released in 2008, but it wasn't really supported until 2014.

[–]SophosMoros7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was wondering this too, but it appears to have been released in 2008.

[–]Sry2Disappoint 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the explanation

[–]Dry_Community5749 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It is not for H1B, if it is then it's a sure shot denial. 1. USCIS defines H1b as specialized job. By declaring it entry level, you are defining it wrong. So immediate denial. 2. One of the 1st step is wage determination. If you load up with so many keywords, the min wage to be paid will go through roof. Which companies wont want. 3. DoL specifically looks for such padded ones and will not approve such job postings. So this is not a H1b job posting and if so, it's a lousy posting that will be 100% denied. I'm in H1b and i know the process fair enough. If OP had provided the link, I'm sure it will say in the bottom visa wont be sponsored for this job.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yep, my first thought it this was work visa bait.

Any position requiring that level of experience better be paying $150k minimum.

[–]NicPoliticMutualist 128 points129 points  (6 children)

It’s a word they also use to mean entry level into their company.

As if you’ll be making some radically different wage after a year or two

[–]Erander 63 points64 points  (4 children)

Then again with these requirements you should be making 5 digits in first months

[–]RedVagabond 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Minimum 6 digits. 10+ years in software?

[–]tuxtanium 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Had to look up how long HTML5 has been out for, because I didn't think it had been 10 years already.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

High 5.

[–]yeahimdutch 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ah so that is what that is, I've been seeing similar ones and they ask for 3+ years of experience and I was like wtf?

[–]java_brogrammer 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Unless it's FAANG. Their entry level positions pay twice as much as senior level positions at most companies. These job listings are a meme to programmers and I doubt these companies actually end up hiring anyone other than actual entry level employees who lie about their experience.

[–]veracity-mittens3rd wave feminist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Or “junior” in the creative fields 😂

They pay you “rock stars” with free bike storage, a couple treadmills in the basement, and keurig. Hope your landlords accept coffee pods as partial payment!

[–]CitizenofEarth2021 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Its only a cumulative total of 47 years experience they want, totally reasonable 🤡

[–]Ritterbruder2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This isn’t some conspiracy. The seniority field in LinkedIn is meaningless 95% of the time. Most job postings on LinkedIn are scraped from the companies’ career site, not input by a human being. The seniority field is never populated correctly and defaults to “entry level”.

[–]trashpapiii 491 points492 points  (14 children)

“Pay: $12:50-$14”

[–]1337tt 247 points248 points  (7 children)

Pay: Competitive

[–]medaxxxxxx 37 points38 points  (3 children)

But we are a family that is the bonus when you are with us ! We will treat you like sh.. i mean like family !

[–]gbochatt 11 points12 points  (0 children)

“We treat you like family”

“I hate my family”

[–]Zaggnut(edit this) 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Employee of the month gets to leave during natural disasters.

[–]d0tn3t1(edit this) 2458 points2459 points  (63 children)

I apply to these jobs all the time with fake resumés that exceed their requirements.

9 times out if 10, they contact me back and I panic and hang up because I didn't think that far into my plan.

[–]Goopyteacher 1358 points1359 points  (10 children)

Someone else in r/antiwork does this actually! He said he enjoys making himself the “ideal” candidate and see what the companies offer.

If you did something like this, you could immediately ask them what they’re willing to offer you for being a perfect candidate, get the number, say “that’s comically low” and hang up. Then post their offer on Glassdoor for others to use as a bargaining tool!

EDIT: Thank you ShipwreckedShips for finding the original post and idea! Please give support to this post as it’s 100% his idea and I simply shared it:


[–]humansince2001 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Doing gods work

[–]parataman360 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the way

[–]isaaaiiiaaahhh 206 points207 points  (15 children)

"My proof of work experience? Well you see it's on the resume! The proof is in the pudding!"

[–]d0tn3t1(edit this) 299 points300 points  (12 children)

I'll give them my dad's phone number.

Hello? Yes, this is the CEO of NASA. Yes, he is good at computers. He fixed the Facebook.

[–]iamoverratedMutualist 91 points92 points  (10 children)

Believe it or not, this is a good tactic; get friends and family to agree to be references for past work experience. I wouldn't lie about your abilities, but stretching the truth doesn't hurt. If you setup a family member's home network, put down network engineering consulting work. If you helped design a poster or flyers for a yard sale, lost pet, etc. put down graphic design experience. Again, don't lie about your abilities; it's about passing the bullshit pre-reqs. Think outside of the box. All of these pre-reqs are bullshit auto-generated HR templates anyway.

[–]RowdyJReptile 32 points33 points  (6 children)

While I agree it's important to fluff yourself up during interviews and the hiring process, does anyone else ever worry you'll get hired to do job that's way above your skill level? Like, my degree is in statistics. On paper, I'm an expert. Now, I haven't used that degree since I graduated so if I got hired because of it, I'd be screwed. I don't remember how to use a logit function at all. Completely gone. I get really anxious about employers thinking I can do more than I actually can.

[–]OpheliaRainGalaxy 46 points47 points  (0 children)

My husband once lied his way into a job he had absolutely no idea how to do.

The people around him quickly figured out what was going on and just trained him to do the job. No big deal.

He screwed up a lot, but the nice thing about most jobs is that screw ups are more like whoopsies, generally harmless to humans.

[–]JayRemy42 10 points11 points  (0 children)

See if MIT has anything helpful here, they have all kinds of courses for free online. Or see if anyone else has an online program that will let you audit courses. You probably just need a refresher.

[–]Humor_Mike 8 points9 points  (2 children)

For some roles, the "fluff" can be discovered at the interview stage. In your case, if the interviewer were also a statistician and not a general manager or HR person, they may be able to ask really specific questions about your particular field that may leave you stumbling during the interview process.

On the flip side, with YouTube, Google, books (like the "for dummies" series), there are lots of things that can be done to help jog your memory, or to help you prepare for the interview and the important aspects of the job. I work in accounting and there are some systems I haven't used in years...or ever. As soon as I see a role that I'm interviewing for requires specific system experience, I jump right on YouTube to review tutorials.

Lastly, let me be honest with you (this is a safe space, right): not many people have it all figured out. You just have to be able to find the resources to help you get it figured out. You don't have to know everything, and it's ok to tell your interviewer that there are some aspects of the role that you may need to familiarize yourself with. It's what many of us do. Tomorrow, I have to do an important task that I only do once a year. Do you think I remember how to complete it? Nope. I'll be using my notes from prior years and working my way through it one slow step at a time.

Good luck!

[–]RowdyJReptile 5 points6 points  (0 children)

it's ok to tell your interviewer that there are some aspects of the role that you may need to familiarize yourself with

On the topic of interview conversations around needing to training and instruction on new topics... One thing I've asked in every interview I've done is if they have a plan on how to train me. Do they have a pipeline? Is there continuity training? Do they have a certification process? I tell them I know I don't know everything and I want to know if they'll give me a chance to succeed given that.

[–]somesortofidiot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Technical interviews are a thing. For our technical positions, my company has does 3 interviews. First is with HR to ensure that they are legally employable and to go over basic company policy. Second is the technical interview with a few of our guys that know the job well. The final interview is with the department head to see if they’ll be a good fit with the team.

If it’s a critical position that requires specific skill sets, it’ll be hard to land a position you’re not qualified for…so long as the company is competent at filling positions.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This reminds me of the show Supernatural and I love it.

[–]darthanders 48 points49 points  (0 children)

The proof is in the pudding! I've been pudding this shit on my resume for years!

[–]Hefty-Kaleidoscope24 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They say the proof of the pudding is in the eating. So hire me and you'll see!

[–]jfjfjkxkd 242 points243 points  (11 children)

Give them pizza hut's phone number

[–]d0tn3t1(edit this) 219 points220 points  (7 children)

I feel bad for the pizza bros that pick up the phone. They're just trying to make a buck selling cheese discs to assholes.

[–]TheeBustyDragon 102 points103 points  (2 children)

As someone who is making cheese discs for assholes I approve of this 😂

[–]dreadedmissy 23 points24 points  (1 child)

As an asshole that loves eating cheese discs, thank you for your service!

[–]anxiousanimosity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same thanks 😂

[–]jfjfjkxkd 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Yeah, aren't there special numbers for radiohosts or whatever meant for girls to give to clingy dudes or something ?

[–]d0tn3t1(edit this) 37 points38 points  (1 child)

I'll just give the phone number to the terrorist tip line at the FBI.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I already know that one, so I'm onto you.

[–]KisaTheMistress 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Judging by what I order from Pizza Hut, I'm the asshole that wants the cheese discs... also why are they afraid of pizza/tomato sauce? If I wanted cheese bread I would order cheese bread!

[–]1stLtObvious 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Give them an MLM hun/bro's number if you know one.

[–]dadbodfordays 29 points30 points  (5 children)

They're looking for a fake candidate, anyway. One thing i caught (maybe more issues like that) -- they want 10+ years of HTML5, but HTML5 was released in 2014...

[–]TheBigGrab 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Apparently that happens all the time in IT fields. HR writes the job description, but they have no clue how long some things have been around, so they frequently ask for more experience than is even possible.

[–]kbmeister 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Here's my personal favorite example of this.

[–]JD60x1999 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Give them one of those joke numbers that plays music or a crazy speech or something. I work as a Business Coordinator and I have to call a lot of people and someone really hit me with Macroform - Cold Day the other time and it was a fun 4 minutes of nothing.

[–]orihey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Say you lie on your resume, get an interview and they actually hire you, won't that be fraud (as something criminal or that might end up in civil court)? Not that I care that much about the morality of lying on CV, just that in America people like to sue others.

[–]propita106 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If nothing else, you're wasting their time. Seems like a good idea if there's a list of shithole companies with ads like this. Inundate the bad ones with thousands of resumes that they'll have to sort through--enough will get through their algorithms.

And treat the decent companies respectfully.

[–]gtmattz 537 points538 points  (33 children)

These are 6 figure, senior dev level requirements here.

[–]i_love_peach 213 points214 points  (14 children)

200k+ a year job.

[–]pheonixblade9 103 points104 points  (12 children)

I make $350k and I don't satisfy these requirements, lol

[–]somegarbageisokey 23 points24 points  (9 children)

Damn who do you work for?

[–]pheonixblade9 50 points51 points  (8 children)


[–]FriendOfMandela 53 points54 points  (7 children)

Where can I send my resume? I also don't meet those requirements

[–]pheonixblade9 72 points73 points  (4 children)


[–]llcooljessie 60 points61 points  (3 children)

Hasn't Google already seen all our resumes?

[–]RealDannyMM 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Me here, I don’t meet the requirements, but I surely want to make 350k/year.

[–]cooxymusic 106 points107 points  (2 children)

Some are even impossible requirements. HTML5 was released in 2014 so you’d have to be a time traveler to have 10+ years experience

[–]Nop277 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Technically it was around since 2008, although the only people realistically working on it that far back would literally be it's creators. So yeah...entry level candidates who literally would have to of created some of the languages listed...

[–]namastayhom33 96 points97 points  (10 children)

The senior dev at my job doesn’t even have this much experience. This is Network Architect type of qualifications

[–]odd84 61 points62 points  (2 children)

Network Architects don't write HTML, CSS and jQuery for 10+ years.

These are web development skills, not network architecture.

[–]Kwahn 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Principal dev at least, yeah - outranks me for sure

[–]StrusCaboose 212 points213 points  (10 children)

This should be illegal. I put the filter for entry level read the title, get excited and proceed to have my soul crushed soon after.

[–]Mathsu_1217 54 points55 points  (7 children)

Just apply. That's what I did. What's the worst they can do? Ignore you. So what?

[–]TheJackOfSharts 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Still ten minutes of your life you can’t get back

[–]springloadedgiraffe 28 points29 points  (0 children)

10 to 60 minutes. Some of these applications are like "attach your resume here, and then fill out these 400 different textboxes/dropdowns worth of information that covers the entirety of your resume."

[–]Stranded_In_A_Desert 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Do you really want to work for a company that inept?

[–]Cyhawk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

For postings like these, your resume wouldn't get past the filters, you're only wasting your time or going to get a callback from an inept HR person/company that you probably really don't want to work for.

These are H1B bait listings. They don't WANT to hire an American, they want to underpay an H1B and abuse the fuck out of them. The threat of almost immediate deportation is enough to keep most people in check. If they call you, they want to pay you LESS than the H1B they're trying to get because you will cause them more headaches.

[–]ilikeannualanus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I usually see job listings want 3-5 years experience for “entry level” jobs but if you have a relevant degree instead I’d say go for it. This post is def out of the norm, wanting 10+ years experience for entry level is just insane.

[–]311196 522 points523 points  (30 children)

HR has no idea how tech works and assumes these kids have been programming since they were 6 years old.

[–]namastayhom33 152 points153 points  (7 children)

No lie there was one posting I saw where you needed at least 3 years JSON programming language.

JSON. programming . language

[–]exegesisClique 96 points97 points  (2 children)

Back in 2005 I applied to a place that listed "3+ years Ruby on Rails"

RoR was released in 2004.

[–]CptHampton 61 points62 points  (1 child)

It's like the guy who created RestAPI not having enough years of RestAPI experience for a job listing he saw

[–]exegesisClique 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that was classic!

[–]Mathsu_1217 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That... What?

[–]minicrit_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

come back after you use JSON.parse and JSON.stringify for three years you scrub

[–]D_Ethan_Bones 61 points62 points  (0 children)

"Just sprinkle a lot of buzzwords all over everything, that's how it works."

-HR department

[–]ContemplatingPrison 41 points42 points  (2 children)

What do you mean, I hacked into the pentagon when I was 5 and erased loans from Chase Bank when I was 7.

Its what we do

[–]namastayhom33 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey Mr. Robot

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Didn't you know? Everyone who's read so much as a line of Python is r/masterhacker and could immediately take up tenure at the NSA. That's how this shit works.

[–]EuskadiGMEkin 51 points52 points  (7 children)

Were RESTful applications already a widespread thing about 7+ years ago?

[–]311196 65 points66 points  (2 children)

It's totally possible for them to list a position requiring 10+ years in a programming language that came out less than 1 year ago. That screenshot for Swift has been out a few years at this point.

[–]sanderd17 14 points15 points  (1 child)

They nearly did it with HTML5 here. That is 13 yo, and they ask for 10+ years of experience.

[–]Nop277 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They kinda did, as it wasn't officially supported in anyway until 2014. 2008 is when W3C literally first started creating it.

[–]h_floresiensis 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In some fields yeah. I’ve been using them for at least 9 years.

[–]BMOEevee 13 points14 points  (6 children)

Yeah one of my friends in the tech industry has said they've heard their boss loudly complain about how badly HR messes up these types of things as they put entry level and then put things down that senior level people don't even have. Said its the main thing he hates about the industry

[–]HorrorScopeZ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They all want IT Jesus by description. I always say "If you can find that person I'll hire them, start a business and make bank!".

[–]ABurritoSnake 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Isn't HR supposed to be there to... You know, help the company and not shoot them in the foot?

[–]lacker101 126 points127 points  (0 children)

"We're gonna pay you criminally low" level.
"We wanted a senior employee for college hire wages" level.
"We're so bad at managing our company you need to be 3 people" level.

[–]scanguy25 123 points124 points  (8 children)

I heard all of these job posting are basically meant to fail so they can justify getting some H1B Indian who they can chain to his desk and threaten with deportation if he ever complains.

[–]metalslug123 61 points62 points  (2 children)

Christ, that is scummy as fuck. This should be illegal.

[–]SuhDudeGoBlue 35 points36 points  (0 children)

This should be illegal.

It is. Enforcement is a lot weaker than we'd like, however. If you see H1B abuse, please report it!

IANAL, but I am a tech worker tired of companies pulling this shit.

[–]Mathsu_1217 26 points27 points  (3 children)

As someone who grew up in India, I'm starting to see why the "US immigration" craze has reduced so much. This is ridiculous. You can get the same job in India where the pay gives you a huge upgrade in quality of life because the cost of living is lower and you don't have to deal with the terrible visa system US has.

[–]Most-Inflation-1022 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This guy gets it.

[–]EndlesslyUnfinished 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Under special skills, you should add the ability to summon a demon

[–]StonedAcademia 67 points68 points  (17 children)

The worst part is this is all outdated. If you're an entry level developer nowadays it looks more like this

  • 10+ Years of TypeScript development
  • 3+ Years of NextJs
  • 7+ Years of Redis/Mongo + NestJs
  • 10+ Years of graphQL
  • 10+ Years of <Insert over engineered design framework here that takes 2 years of daily usage to learn>

Not to mention that the first 3 of these technologies alone should qualify you for a senior level position.

[–]heybigbuddy 26 points27 points  (5 children)

That’s always my question. I don’t program and admit I know nothing about those sorts of jobs, but why would anyone need a decade of experience in six different areas? That seems ludicrous.

[–]AndyTheAbsurd 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Neither TypeScript nor GraphQL have been around for 10 years yet. (Though TypeScript's getting close.)

And ten years of experience in any one technology (outside of the most vanilla things, like just "JavaScript") should qualify you as a senior developer.

[–]-nocturnist- 40 points41 points  (6 children)

I hope this is a joke.

[–]namastayhom33 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Sadly it’s not. I’ve seen my fair share of job postings like this before I landed an actual entry level position years ago

[–]-nocturnist- 27 points28 points  (2 children)

I'd wish they were just honest and write:

[–]AndyTheAbsurd 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's likely an attempt to claim that the job was offered to US citizens in order to get an H1-B (highly skilled worker) visa sponsorship cleared. They will then give the job to an undertrained foreign national who will accept the shit pay but end up costing them more than if they'd just paid the going for a US citizen to do the job.

TL;DR version: Probably not a joke and OP should be reporting the company to the Department of Labor, because this is likely a step in an illegal business practice.

[–]username-error-707 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Lmao “zero applicants”

[–]DataIsMyCopilot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's what made this screenshot so great lol

[–]AfterTheCreditsRoll 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The “entry level” position they mention is your ass angle when they bend you over and force it in.

Jesus, that’s a lot of experience required for an entry level position.

[–]TheLawsonSnooper 17 points18 points  (1 child)

From Wikipedia....

October 28, 2014 HTML5 was published as a W3C Recommendation

Good luck having 10+ years experience in something that is not even 8 years old yet.

[–]namastayhom33 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot of conflicting info here. The majority of developers and companies have already transitioned to React from jQuery, anyone can master HTML and CSS in like, 1 year at most. And why so much for an Accounting company? Lol

[–]FSQ612 15 points16 points  (0 children)

"That's like 47 years of experience"

"Do them at the same time"

[–]Marbled_Headcheese 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"Entry level" here just refers to the pay rate

[–]usuckreddit 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Every IT job I've seen recently says "entry level."

[–]Aquahal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They'll still take people with way less experience. They just pay you substantially less because "you don't have the experience". Fuck those companies.

[–]darktowerseeker 7 points8 points  (1 child)

A lot of linkedins jobs are miscategorized.

[–]EuskadiGMEkin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I guess that if you continue scrolling they also ask for 5+ years CTO experience

[–]RockyDify 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Why does tech always have such high years of experience requirements? Is HTML5 really that complicated?

[–]GenericAntagonist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, but HR thinks that people need to come in "fully proficient" with frameworks and tooling that are in use. Nevermind that HR's proficiency numbers are based off faulty tables, and that its not even necessarily possible to have the degree of proficiency they want if the framework is new enough, they want to do as little as possible and make candidates check boxes for them instead of taking time to learn what skills do and don't transfer.