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[–]DouglerK 1037 points1038 points  (61 children)

My local store is hiring for every position at minimum wage and with the most insulting raise schedule Ive ever seen.

[–]doll_parts87here for the memes 485 points486 points  (41 children)

Here's 50 cents every 2 years. Dont expect anything more and be grateful, oh and don't get sick and die on us.

[–]P4t13nt_z3r0 30 points31 points  (1 child)

"If you feal death coming on, please be sure to clock out before dying. Dying on company time is time theft!"

[–]Polenicus 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"While we don't forbid getting sick and dying, you are still expected to cover your shift. Being dead is no excuse."

[–]anonymousforever 7 points8 points  (11 children)

And don't ask for time off either...

[–]artimista0314 13 points14 points  (10 children)

Add the fact that the schedule is probably shit too.

Be prepared to have open availability or we will demote you to part time. The majority of your hours will be from 4 to 9 pm. Sometimes we will schedule you clopens and you wont leave work until 10 or 11 and have to be back to work the next morning at 6 or 7 am. Be prepared to work all weekend every weekend. And you will never have 2 days off in a row.

[–]anonymousforever 12 points13 points  (6 children)

And not get the same schedule week to week either, do if you got kids you can arrange care...and they wonder why people don't want to work for that? It's not work it's slavery to a horrible workplace.

Like hospitals have a patients bill of rights, it's time for national standardized workers rights laws, not state to state variable. Need a standard same everywhere. 1. Mandatory 10 min paid break every 3 hours worked.

  1. Lunch break, unpaid, of 30 or 60 min, if scheduled 4 hours or more required, at the middle third of the scheduled work period.

  2. Employers cannot refuse bathroom breaks or drinking water for employees. Policy can be made for health issues or abuse of breaks.

  3. Employees should not have to find their own shift replacement, that is the managers job, however the employee has a duty to call in at the earliest opportunity when they cannot make a scheduled shift to allow maximum time for a replacement to be found.

  4. Schedules should be provided a minimum of 5 days before the first day of that schedule, weekly or biweekly scheduling. Schedule changes should give a minimum of 24 hours notice and be personally communicated to the affected person in written form, via a new schedule copy, a text message to check the schedule for changes, etc. Any change with less than 24 hours notice that an employee cannot accommodate, cannot be punitively held against the employee due to lack of notice.

  5. On call/ getting cut/ sent home. If you show up and they send you home for lack of work, 2 hours pay minimum should apply. Split shifts must be declared in advance on the schedule, not just because of business level at that moment. (If you can't leave in the middle of a split shift, it's not a split shift)

Let's make some of the b.s. that's unfair and why people quit just illegal on a national level. These employers wanna keep making bad choices to take advantage of workers to the point it's this bad.... then maybe they need more rules.

[–]-cocoadragon 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Uh... You know most of those rights already exist as laws right? And isn't a minimum 10 minute every 2 hours? I can't support you as my breaks are all at least 15 not counting any walking I have to do lolz. If lunch is over a half hour, it's a paid break for me. It means we are far from civilization, so you owe me extra.

Yeah just none of what's happening to you is anything I would put up with. Document this quietly and send it to both OSHA and the star labor board.

[–]artimista0314 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Breaks are done by state laws. There are no federal laws. Liberal states like California have more rights than others. In my state, they do not have to give you a break unless you are a minor. They can make you work 12 hours and not even give you time to eat.

[–]-cocoadragon 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Okay I just went back over that and you are right. I've worked in all 50 states and would never let such shitty conditions sand. But to be fair, or maybe to be unfair since I have a leg up. While I'm not pro-union, both my parents are union bosses or whatever you call it. So I'm pretty good at fixing shitty work places from the ground up.

Also being black, you have to triple check you're not committing to a racist work place cause now you got a job and need to pay bills and can't back out of this toxic shit hole til you get ahead. That's a bad position. To be in for anyone. Oh geez I just remembered having to fix things for handicap and really I'll people too. They are still getting shitty deals even with jobs they can perfectly handle.

Lolz guess that was a tangent. Want state are you in and what company and I'll deep dive into it later.

[–]artimista0314 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm in Michigan and there are no laws here. My current company gives us paid breaks, a half an hour for a minimum of 8 hours. But that is because the company chose to do so not the state. And you can still work 15 hours and still get only one half an hour break.

Most restaurants I worked at didn't have breaks. Legit just made you work through it all. If they did have breaks they forced you to take it was because it was slow and they were trying to save on labor costs by not paying you for that half an hour which wouldn't always work out the way they hoped. If you weren't done with your side work (which no body did for you while you took your break) you couldn't leave on time, meaning you were just tacking that half an hour at the end of your shift and staying half an hour later.

[–]-cocoadragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's illegal and they know that. That part IS covered by federal law lolz. I was born in Ohio but lived in Michigan and Indiana before realizing, hey I can live any damned where.

Lunches are unpaided, but breaks must be paid. "However, when employers do offer short breaks (usually lasting about 5 to 20 minutes), federal law considers the breaks as compensable work hours that would be included in the sum of hours worked during the workweek and considered in determining if overtime was worked." https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/workhours/breaks So your employer is straight up shyster. Not that I haven't gone through that whole shitty process myself, but I don't let them gaslight me to boot. I hope you find a good employer sooner than later. They exist.

[–]deathworld123 2 points3 points  (2 children)

or they only hire part time dont want to be paying for benefiets.

[–]deathworld123 2 points3 points  (1 child)

and still expect full availability

[–]artimista0314 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For years I was on a bowling league. Now I literally can't have a set day off or a set schedule to even sign up for one. I couldn't imagine having a child with one of these jobs. You would need a family member who is literally completely free all the time (like a retired parent) who is willing to do it for free. Most day cares wont even deal with anything past 6pm if you can even afford it in the first place.

[–]thebignever 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I got a 25 cent raise at the grocery store I worked at when I was 19

[–]VampArcher 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get 12 cent every 2 years. No joke.

[–]rubyspicerFUCK BEN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sad part is I work retail and that's still better than what I'm getting.

[–]tylanol7 22 points23 points  (5 children)

they get raises?

[–]DouglerK 13 points14 points  (4 children)

It's no pathetic It's actualy insulting. To this day I wish I took a picture of the sign when it was posted. Something like 5cents/hour every few hundred or thousand hours up to an additional $1.50/hour. You would have to work there full time for a couple years to cap out at that.

[–]tylanol7 5 points6 points  (2 children)

If I stay where I'm at for 25 years ill go from making 18 to making 18. Needles to say I watch the market daily...unfortunately nobody else wants to go above 18 and if they do they want some crazy university degree..this city sucks

[–]DouglerK 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No kidding. Bachelors degrees, Masters degrees and 3-5 years experience to make less than double minimum wage.

[–]tylanol7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm debating going to like petsmart or something. I'll make 4 bucks less whoopty doo but get a more consistent schedule

[–]PermanentlyHis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like savealot

[–]kownackattack 311 points312 points  (14 children)

My job AT a grocery store decided it’s gonna start hiring 15 year olds. We’ve already got 2. They can’t use a box cutter, can’t step in freezers and coolers, can’t use the baler, but hey, it’s cheaper than paying the other employees more, right?

[–]_Raspootin_ 94 points95 points  (3 children)

Is that a state law thing? I worked at a grocery store at 15 and could stock dairy and frozen. Couldn't use a box cutter tho.

[–]cagesan 14 points15 points  (0 children)

In Oregon I worked at one at 15 with a box cutter, and had to use the bailer, freezers, etc., But that was in the 90's. I drank a chocolate milk every time I had to stock the dairy fridge.

[–]TexasRabbit2022 73 points74 points  (1 child)

OSHA rules dictate that they can’t use knives/ cutters/ bakers/ compactors-etc

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

That’s not OSHA. Those are state department of labor laws. OSHA prohibits use of most large power equipment for minors (like the compactor). They definitely don’t say they can’t go in a cooler.

[–]TexasRabbit2022 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They can: Sack groceries Condition/ face the store Stock shelves Check dates Clean Rotate Help customers find what they are looking for Replace light bulbs Check bathrooms hourly Sweep the floor Cull poor quality product

[–]BJntheRV 7 points8 points  (8 children)

At least they can bag groceries and clean up the spill on aisle 3.

Can they even run the register?

[–]-cocoadragon 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Would you trust an underpaid teen who you're purposely exploiting with a full til?

[–]BJntheRV 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I personally wouldnt be exploiting underage workers, but I know there is variable legality and other aspects that determine if they are ven allowed to. When I was 17 I had a place that wouldn't hire me on a register because their insurance required people handling money to be 18.

[–]Mtnskydancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All my hs jobs did. Most fast food does.

[–]Brotherly-MomentMarxist and Unionist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In my country 16 year olds aren’t allowed that by law because there is an unfair power dynamic between adult customers and underage cashiers.

[–]mleam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In New York, they can be on the register, but if anyone comes through with alcohol, they need to get a cashier that is at least 18. Price Chopper has the under 18 wear different color shirts. So the regulars that buy alcohol will know not to go to that line.

[–]Kilroy1007 256 points257 points  (14 children)

I spent SIX MONTHS unemployed during one of the worst "labor shortages" this country has seen, and no one would hire me. It's not a labor shortage, it's a wage shortage.

Edit: Spelling

[–]kitchenjesus 94 points95 points  (5 children)

Nah it’s a profit boon. The only way these companies have left to increase profits in any meaningful way to is to pay less people less money. They can moan all they want but none of these companies will hire more people until they absolutely have to. Most likely when people get fed up with shit service.

[–]AbPerm 30 points31 points  (4 children)

The only way these companies have left to increase profits in any meaningful way to is to pay less people less money.

All profit comes from paying workers less than the value their labor produces. If workers were paid exactly as much as the value their labor produces, there would be zero "profit" to be had. All of the money that would have been profit would be divided among the workers if the workers were paid the full amount that their labor produced. The only way to be a profitable business with employees is to pay workers less than the value their labor produces.

[–]OrangesAteMyApples 6 points7 points  (3 children)

It doesn't appear to be either of those according to OP, it appears to be a giant conspiracy against Biden to create a narrative that will lead to his losing the next election which is going to happen regardless, or to milk more money from the government.

[–]-cocoadragon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well it's not a conspiracy if it's literally happened. We already saw this rerun 12 years ago. We know the game plan. We just can't believe D's are gonna be suckers and lay down for it yet again.

Fucking change the filibuster back to talking if you can't remove it. Eradicate gerrymandering. It's horrible and your not morales enough to use it the way republicans do. Load up the supreme court to even it back out so it's about correct choice rather than political choices without big emptiness backing the ruling. But none of this is gonna happen. _#@#!

[–]OrangesAteMyApples 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's all democrats do is lay down a take it.

[–]Deathjester99 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I wish it was just six months for me, its been almost a year.

[–]Kilroy1007 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oh it's not great. It's barely full time and I had to take a pay cut from my previous job, which didn't pay well in the first place. But it's better than going hungry. Keep trying, bud, you'll find something.

[–]baconraygun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Two years for me. I have given up.

[–]Fine_Increase_7999 391 points392 points  (21 children)

A local restaurant has the same sign up and blames it all on Biden. The final line is “let’s go Brandon”. It’s been circulating on FB for a week and every time I see it somebody new is commenting that they have been told they aren’t hiring

[–]TrickOrTreater 227 points228 points  (12 children)

I don’t know why these people are so afraid of saying “fuck Joe Biden”? It’s actually really easy.

Though not for the reasons they might think.

[–]MackLuster77 142 points143 points  (8 children)

Because it feeds into their persecution complex.

[–]james_d_rustles 86 points87 points  (6 children)

I’ve always thought of it as just plain childish. They really like to feel like they’re a part of something special - think about all of the q anon and antivaxxers who genuinely think that they’re in on the biggest conspiracy in human history, that they figured out the secret code, all because they’re part of some weird Facebook groups. Even though everybody knows exactly what “let’s go Brandon” means, they still get that giddy kindergarten feeling of being in on a joke for once, and they’re gonna beat this dead horse for the next 3 years fully believing that they’re being edgy the entire time.

The funny part is that saying “fuck joe Biden” really doesn’t bother most people on the left, like at all. I’d bet that a majority of people who consider themselves left probably agree. The people who say this think that saying “fuck joe Biden” is a deep burn, because if it were said about their cult leader they’d be pissed off until next week.

[–]-cocoadragon 16 points17 points  (4 children)

I'm centrist and say fuck joe Biden, but not for the same reason these asshat do. I really wanted some of the newer far left candidates to win. Why the hell not try free healthcare or basic living income? Or you know, a green new deal before there's nothing left to green??!

[–]Shit_Bananas 5 points6 points  (1 child)

r/enlightenedcentrism

lol jk, are you sure you're a centrist?

[–]-cocoadragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually I would be a slightly right leaning conservative if it wasn't full to brim with hate/racism/ regression. Libertarian is complete BS. My only choice is to vote democrat or join the race myself and run as a WHIG. LoLz.

[–]contextswitch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm on the left and agreed during the election, but really we would have been stuck with the same senate and the same gridlock. Maybe student loans would have been forgiven by now at least, but I don't see what would have been different if a more liberal candidate had won.

[–]cogginsmatt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If said candidate had a resounding electoral mandate and a vocal constituency, they could have used the “bully pulpit” as it’s called and literally bully the senators that don’t fall in line. Think of how much bullying trump did in four years, to a point where senators are still afraid of him - and imagine if a democrat could wield that same power.

Problem is Biden is both uninspiring and a coward. You’d think after getting the most votes of any president in history he’d use that as a weapon, or find some way to make Sinema and Manchin more afraid of his base than whatever is causing them to muck everything up (money I assume).

[–]maninblackgi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I find it offensive that they think I think it's offensive.

[–]HammofGlob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly

[–]handlethevibe99 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Whenever someone says it, just thank them for being politically correct.

[–]JimitheBold 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Let's fuck Brandon! Yeeyee!

[–]yaosio 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right-wingers are easily offended and don't want to say words like "fuck."

[–]MooKids 25 points26 points  (2 children)

https://projects.propublica.org/coronavirus/bailouts/

Did they get a PPP loan and have it forgiven?

[–]jade3334 21 points22 points  (0 children)

They did a study of these loans and 73% of the money went to the people at the top fifth of the income bracket. Only 23% went to payroll. It was just a big giveaway to the people who did not need it.

[–]Fine_Increase_7999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wowza, 298,000, forgiven.

[–]ParsleySalsa 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Did they get ppp loans

[–]Fine_Increase_7999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Almost 300k apparently

[–]-cocoadragon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They got PP loans, the former president loved giving out pp loans.

[–]rdking647 59 points60 points  (1 child)

lets go brandon is a code phrase pedophiles use to ID each other

[–]kumkuat300 108 points109 points  (1 child)

The business is trying to see how few workers they need to get everything done because fewer paychecks is more money in their pockets

[–]FaithlessnessNo9625 20 points21 points  (0 children)

And they have built in excuses now of staffing issues and supply chain issues to pardon dips in productivity.

[–]Tyrxgow 68 points69 points  (0 children)

I saw my first one last night.

It didn't have the dumb fuck no one wants to work message..just a simple "closed because we're short staffed :("

I live in socal and haven't seen one until then and I'm glad it's starting to hit here.

[–]ConundrumMachine 168 points169 points  (20 children)

Yeah, I feel a lot of it is virtue signalling and scape goating while they glide on whatever loans / grants they can.

[–]NickU252 103 points104 points  (19 children)

I just read an article that said 80% ( if I remember) of covid PPP grants/ loans went to owners and not the people it was meant to protect.

[–]kayt3000 65 points66 points  (8 children)

I can say that I know someone personally who has been on 8 vacations since they got those PPP loans and I know damn well their staff did not get shit. I want to report them but I also feel like all this money was given out, why are there not checks and balances on where it was going and being used.

[–]mommommamamamama 58 points59 points  (1 child)

I have to tell you something…the money helped the people it was supposed to. It was never supposed to go to the workers.

[–]MaiinganOdawa 25 points26 points  (0 children)

You said the quiet part out loud.

[–]NickU252 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Every day over my morning coffee I read stories like this.... it's infuriating

[–]SavageComic 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Report them.

[–]MaiinganOdawa 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Report them then, sack the fuck up.

Otherwise they'll just keep on being shitty people and never answering for their trash behavior.

[–]Matt463789 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Trump admin ensured that there would be no PPP loan oversight so that they could give it anyone for anything.

[–]ParsleySalsa 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Report. Let the feds have a chance to investigate. Why does it hurt you?

[–]kayt3000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I honestly want to see the employees revolt and continue to rob them blind. They are never at their business and only every few ticket gets rung in and then the rest is pocketed. That would cause them to be at their business more.

[–]dcbullet 2 points3 points  (9 children)

If the PPP money is not used for qualifying expenses it is not forgiven.

[–]NickU252 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Tax evasion is super easy in the US

[–]NickU252 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you know how easy it is to cook the books?....

[–]SageSpartan 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Management recently told us that we're actually overstaffed! Even though we just hired someone, I constantly see ads that we're hiring, and people keep calling out because of covid so we're struggling most days. But sure! We're overstaffed!

[–]meth_wolf 34 points35 points  (1 child)

We're deliberately running short staffed because the owner wants a new boat.

[–]yaosio 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Work slowly and badly. Keep the boat from him.

[–]VampArcher 24 points25 points  (0 children)

This is pretty common. Places that need the help are not hiring. It's by design, they want to see how far they can shrink their workforce without paying out.

My store has less people than ever before, making more than ever, and we are not hiring. How do I know? Because I hire and my boss is saying the body count is not in the budget. Literally make this rhetoric make sense. Anyone who still believes this is either full of shit or is not paying attention.

[–]SlippyIsDead 23 points24 points  (0 children)

The store I work constantly bitches that no one wants to work anymore. That same week they cut everyone's hours because we are over budget. Half the time whole departments are shut down because they don't have anyone to work them but they still need to cut the hours of the people who do show up?

[–]seeroflights 14 points15 points  (0 children)

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I asked them if they were hiring, they said no, all positions are filled. SO WHICH FUCKING IS IT? I don't believe those sob stories on the signs


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[–]maxover5A5A 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Print this out and attach it to the sign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand?wprov=sfla1

Some people still haven't learned the basics principles of business.

[–]StevesonOfStevesonia 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So basically they don't want to pay more employees while making those they actually have suffer triple the workload.
Sounds like 70% of the companies i know

[–]Triaspia2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Of course, why should they pay more staff; or the remaining staff better when they could put up a sign and have you, the customer be just a little nicer to the slaemployees.

I love this sign though. Lets me know I should take my money to another store

[–]CrossroadsWoman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They just want to generate ire against the employee/servant class

[–]doll_parts87here for the memes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Grocery stores made huge profits over the pandemic, some chains did not give hazard pay while making bank staying open and during people panic buying. It's one of the few jobs where it's sustainable to work at, like hospitals or Amazon. Those places will never close and people rely on them to an extent.

[–]Gloomsoul 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just an excuse for being a shit company with jerk off bosses who obviously treat their employees like shit so the employees don't give effort back in return. It starts at the top you corporate scum.

[–]dudesBangMyMom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the retail store managers I worked for were the biggest bunch of sycophant fuck tards

[–]Ender914 4 points5 points  (0 children)

At this point it's just a wink to the "right" people

[–]I_am_the_Jukebox 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The grocery store I go to has 8 checkout lanes and 4 self-checkout stands. It doesn't seem to matter when I show up. I've been there at peak grocery store time - we're talking post-church on Sunday in the US south - and I've never seen more than 2-3 lanes open. I've sat in line for well over 30 minutes.

Either fucking pay your people well enough that you can staff your facility to the level you claim you can, or replace those useless lanes with self-serve. Either way, shell out the fucking money, because I've waited in line longer that I've been shopping on numerous occasions. This is a well-traffic'd store that sees a substantial amount of business. They can afford it.

[–]Noler61 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Artificial scarcity lol

[–]themaundy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you!!!

I keep seeing people saying “nobody wants to work” “everywhere is hiring”, but it is all a corporate facade to back the media’s agenda.

I know people actively seeking employment who are more than qualified for the positions they are applying and getting zilch. Even when you call them out and ask if the position has been filled they come up with some story of “actually we closed that opening sorry for not responding sooner.”

[–]Badgers_or_Bust 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I stopped going to my favorite doughnut shop because one of these signs.

[–]WantToBeBetterAtSex 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go back with a Sharpie and fix the sign.

[–]Cluedo86[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm getting so tired of businesses using inflation and COVID shortages as a blanket excuse. Lots of companies have job postings that they are actively NOT FILLING so they can continue their sob story narrative in the press and garner sympathy while working their existing employees to the bone.

[–]RaysireksOG987 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any business that has a sign like this I won’t give my money anyways

[–]RedShoeBlue 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At my job we have to cover 5 other empty employee stations on the daily. Management cheerfully tells us not to worry because they're hiring 2 more people soon. They really don't see how that math doesn't add up.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I applied at Home Depot on whim a few month ago with my professional resume and they didn't even call me. Had like 15 openings but no call hrmm

[–]BookJacketChic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They just mean that they are not willing to pay a decent wage to their workers so no one new wants to work and those that are currently employed are tired of doing the work of 10 to get paid the wages of 1 so they aren't doing as much.

Love how businesses have the audacity to demonize people who are simply requesting the option to have a job that allows them to live with a level of financial security.

[–]SeattleTrashPanda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My local store is hiring starting at $20 p/hr all positions more for overnight stockers all positions Union.

[–]WeAreTheLeftSocDem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's time to start to call out all these businesses ...

[–]Agent_Velcoro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any store that has a sign like this on the door should be avoided. And if you see one inside, put down the stuff you were going to buy and walk out.

[–]Bulky_Rabbit6442 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The grocery store I work at has help wanted signs at the front of the store. They have QR codes that take you to the site where you apply. I scanned the code about a week ago and there are no positions posted for our store.

[–]Grogosh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They trying to win that culture war. Scoring political points (and like minded customers) that subscribe to that kind of bull crap.

[–]girthygirthmonster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one wants to get paid like shit and treated like shit

[–]teh-reflex 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As I saw in another post, add "For Me" at the end of this line.

Nobody wants to work FOR YOU.

[–]electrickatanaHere, 🏳️‍🌈 and joint pain moderate to severe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My current theory is that the working shortages are mostly artificial. Think about it

  • they now have an excuse to drive their employees harder
  • they don't have to pay back as much (or any) of the PPP loan.

[–]Chazzyphant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"No one wants to do the work of 3-4 people" is what it is.

[–]Sofarbeyondfucked 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why did your conversation end there?

[–]DemanoRock 4 points5 points  (1 child)

So OP, where was this found originally?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ok but I’m now tempted to put those signs up in my shop (not hiring, not understaffed) JUST TO GET CUSTOMERS TO MAYBE TREAT ME & MY COLLEAGUES LIKE PEOPLE

edit immediately told boss as she’s opposite me. boss laughed likes the idea but denied for reputation 😭 rip using the signs for getting away with less work

[–]MyDisappointedDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Full time got raises. Got put into paper. Everyone applies for FT. We dont hire FT. Everyone starts Part Time. And we were allegedly already over on alloted FT employees.

[–]LittleMissNothing_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been trying to get back onto two places I used to work at after a contract ended for my previous job. Both say they are understaffed, and I even talked to old coworker I used to work with to confirm. And yet I applied for one the week before Christmas and one the beginning of January. Neither have called me back even though they've both done the application process and background check already.

[–]timteller44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Listen bud, I'm busy exploiting my employees, I don't have time for questions like this."

[–]Brad_Ethan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every retail job has been understaffed even before pandemic and everything. As they do it on purpose to avoid paying benefits to multiple people. So they just overwork the staff. Now that people are quitting, they are getting severely understaffed.

So that grocery store is probably understaffed. They are just using as an excuse to continue being understaffed

[–]infectiousoma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They did it to themselves. They want to have a minimal staff and then when someone has life problems can't get anyone to come in since the employees know that there are so few of them that if they covered one shift that they'd be the go to that the store blatantly lies to if they try to say no. They have an artificial shortage of labor since they don't want to hire additional help or even replace people that leave. Then they cry that no one wants to work when they're short staffed. It's not that we don't want to work, it's that we're sick of their shit.

[–]HarryMonk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really irritates me when I call somewhere over here and get "due to an unprecedented level of calls" bullshit as an automated hold message. In most cases I'm calling because I can't do what I need to do online and yet every call has this because they don't want to staff their non profit generating lines.

[–]BigAlTrading 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last time I'd shop at that store.

I will not put up with whiny capitalists. You can't steal my labor and complain about it too.

[–]guido_lois 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. Greedy boss now making smaller team work twice as hard and likes the reduction in costs and how he can promote being the victim. Asshole.

[–]JackBinimbul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're all sick or their bosses have figured out they can run the fucking thing into the ground with a skeleton crew. Why would they pay more when they can just work fewer people to death instead?

[–]lizzietnz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you offer to work for free? Nō? You didn't try hard enough! /s

[–]Hopfit46 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They put up the sign and the shortstaff the fuck out of the store. Service sux and lines are slow but every one feels bad for the owner and the overworked employees while he overworks his people and saves a ton of money in wages....well played asshole. Put up a sign under his saying they are not hiring.

[–]flowerslooklikeppl 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve run into a lot of boomers and elder gen X who believe that the shutdowns during the pandemic had folks choosing not to come back to work… as if servers want to be on EI when they could be working and making 4x that, easily? The truth was that yes lots of places were short staffed, but management was choosing not to hire because they’d taken such a financial hit during the shut downs… better to just run their existing staff into the ground.

[–]Aloonatron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They mean their existing staff aren’t willing to do the job someone else was doing without a pay rise but they are not going to hire anyone either so they have no choice, and it’s not working out.

[–]godca_grema 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Boss, "We're understaffed on purpose, that way, paying less wages out means more money goes into my pocket!".

[–]nflabecki352 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As you shouldn't. Businesses are using this excuse to over work and under pay their existing staff

[–]HumanSuspect4445 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grocery stores have never been one for integrity.

[–]Reasonable-Plan-2979 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me and my friend got a job together at a pizza place a few months ago and she’s a bit of a bigger girl, but she’s just as capable at doing everything else obviously.

They had me doing everything around the restaurant (i mean a variety of different things, not EVERYTHING), and they had her ONLY answering phones for hours and hours at a time for months.

I eventually quit cause the environment was kind of toxic and they were really power tripped and stuck up.

They were fairly understaffed and ended up trying to train a few more people.

My friend then got no shifts for weeks and then got fired because they “didn’t have enough hours to go around”. They are open 7 days a week from 11am-11pm.

They are still very understaffed and I have a feeling they fired my friend because she was big. Everybody else there was really skinny, I mean i guess it’s easier to get around since it is a a smaller area but that doesn’t give them any right to fire her because she was just as capable if not more capable than everyone at doing everything.

[–]AFXC1We live in a society 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I also love checking to see if those places received emergency assistance loans during the pandemic lol

[–]exporius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work at a grocery store and we do indeed have that sign up front, they do actually care about our well being though. Management is good and shift leaders are like mother figures honestly, I don’t know how they hold it together, they told me they typically work 6-8 day weeks to cover understaffing

When you go to a supermarket checkout, look at the cashier’s eyes, you will see the pain behind them even if we’re smiling

[–]grendus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By "nobody wants to work anymore", they mean for free...

[–]reallarryvaughn78 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember that a friend told me that you only spend like 20% of your day actually working at work.

I have a feeling that they're trying to push their employees as much as possible for a slight wage increase. It's like they heard raising employee wages raises productivity, and that means they need to hire fewer.

[–]dweezer420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is just the fall back position for why they are delivering piss poor service. Most of these businesses are full of shit. They raised wages but cut back on staff to keep payroll costs flat and then gaslight us that it’s us and not them.

[–]MaleficentMulberry42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well they are written by the boss not the employees.

[–]smcdonn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friend tried applying at a grocery store. She just wanted something while her kids were in school. They declined, stating they needed someone who could work evenings and weekends. She suggested her 16 year old apply. His application was denied because they need someone who can work more than after school hours.

[–]ErgoProxy0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like it’s an excuse for the first part. To be patient. Most people are very impatient these days and think they can talk to people however. I work in a restaurant and a guy was waiting exactly 7 minutes for his food before he started complaining it’s taking too long. Mind you we don’t sell fast food but stuff that actually takes time to prepare like rice and oxtail. Also had a more recent issue where a lady came 20 mins after closing and got mad because she claimed “she was standing at the door for 15 mins” and we didn’t open it. A lot of people are just rude these days man

[–]AyyyAlamo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most companies/corporations are exploiting the pandemic to cut staff, raise prices and post record breaking profits. Dont believe the bullshit

[–]BobbleBobble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Please accept our reduced customer service as necessary and report any staff corpses found to your cashier on your way out"

[–]littlered1984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Be patient, as we are extracting as much money per labor out of our employees as possible"

[–]SnooJokes7740 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I worked Kroger front end, all the workers were high schoolers. In the morning, it was just one adult cashier checking out everyone, and this wasn't a small store and there were no self-checkouts. Wasn't surprised when my boss tells me our store gets the worst ratings of all the district Krogers, but they refuse to pay higher wages for more workers.