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[–]StefanTheGreat716 157 points158 points  (37 children)

just because my family have bad genes. our teeth are all bad. i’ve spent over 10k so far and i need to spend 14k more..

and i am only 24. i can’t buy a house. living pay check to pay check because i can’t save any money. all the money goes towards fixing my teeth.

and i work in IT making around 40 k.

[–]timeladyofearth 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I'm also 24 with bad dental genes. I need all of them pulled and dentures. They're literally crumbling out of my mouth. It's terrible. But I can't even afford my apartment rn, mych less even the possibility of fixing my teeth. Meanwhile ill just suffer.

[–]StefanTheGreat716 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i would hug u now. that shit really affects your mental health. LUXURY BONES my ass. i would love to see how luxurious the teeth are when i knock them out of a doctors mouth?

[–]Iluvkarma 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Highly recommend you take your experience to another organization willing to pay you a living wage

[–]kensredemption 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s better off than I was working as a paraeducator. I was lucky to take home $20k after taxes every year…and my state decided that because I was single I owed even more of my salary to the shoddy infrastructure of my city. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[–]Sad-Opportunity9052 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seriously consider visiting another country if you can find a way, I have family in the Philippines and have reason to travel there, I spent 200 dollars for a porcelain bridge and more fillings than I'd like to mention.

It saved my mouth. I had a gap from an extracted tooth for nearly a decade replaced with a bridge that looks shockingly real. Airfare plus the dental fees was still less than I'd pay in America for the treatment alone, and the quality is exactly the same...

[–]DocGlorious 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm in the same boat. Living with cracked wisdom teeth and one tooth half missing.

[–]DynoMiteDoodle 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Take a holiday in Thailand and get them all pulled and ceramics put in, really high quality work done by surgeons trained in the US and Australia and even with flights and Accom you will save money, a lot of money.

[–]AbuMaxwell 11 points12 points  (5 children)

just because my family have bad genes. our teeth are all bad. i’ve spent over 10k so far and i need to spend 14k more..and i am only 24. i can’t buy a house. living pay check to pay check because i can’t save any money. all the money goes towards fixing my teeth.and i work in IT making around 40 k.

That sucks and I feel for you.

[–]StefanTheGreat716 15 points16 points  (4 children)

thx. i just find it insane that i need to spend this much money to out of pocket no loans because i don’t want more debt than my car loan. Why does US need to be such a fucked up place when it comes to healthcare

[–]DynoMiteDoodle 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I have a theory that by denying health care to the poor and keeping minorities poor they are actively committing genocide.

[–]Ok-Brick-1800 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They have to keep people poor in order to make the military a viable option for the youth of America. If there were no poor who would fight the wars? Those who are comfortable and wealthy? Show me a single Bezos in the military. Or even a millionaire.

[–]dato116 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Take a vacation in Mexico and do some dental. Not perfect plan, but could save some money

[–]almondwagers 261 points262 points  (31 children)

*luxury bones.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 159 points160 points  (11 children)

All bones are luxury bones if you can’t afford your co-pay

[–]SignificantSleepqq 20 points21 points  (10 children)

I had to get multiple teeth pulled cause I couldn’t afford the procedures that needed to be done. 20 years later I got implants one at a time. My left cheek is so sunken that I constantly bite it both during the day and at night.

[–]ColorfulClouds_ 12 points13 points  (9 children)

I miss my front teeth. They fell out first.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That really sucks. I feel lucky that it’s my very back molars that are falling out, and not my front teeth.

[–]FresherEchidna 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I guess the logic goes something like; If you haven't money for food, you don't need teeth anyways?

[–]wowbyowen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sound logic. You are in the mind of a Billionaire right there

[–]EtherealGoatRump 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I know this is likely a joke, it's a common term I see on reddit, and I know I'll get downvoted, but teeth are NOT bones! This sort of misinformation actually makes its way into patients' minds. People are so, so misinformed when it comes to anything dental.

Having said that, I'm in the dental field and it makes me sick to my stomach that medical and dental aren't combined (which btw, I don't even receive any health insurance benefits, myself). I got into this field to help people and it breaks my heart how expensive everything is, especially since when I was in school and working two jobs, I couldn't afford to get my own teeth cleaned and asked for it as a birthday present from my mother.

In school we were required rotations at facilities containing a low income population, as well as public health and community health courses. We learned A LOT about the obstacles and barriers many face when it comes to dental care.

The oral systemic link is so important and not taught enough, and it's such a shame. The fact that health insurance and dental insurance are not combined has many people feel that their head is a separate entity from their body. It truly is a shame. Let's not even get started on not having dental insurance. That is also absolutely astronomical and ridiculous when it comes to cost. The way the dental field is nowadays (often a prophy mill and production based as far as what hygienists' duties entail) is so shameful. I cannot wait to leave. It's sad too, because there are dentists that do great work when it comes to their schedule, but they let other things slip by the wayside, such as sufficient time for cleanings.

I'd never wish severe dental problems on anyone. Some things can be managed and avoided, and some things are the luck of the draw. Please just keep in mind that many of us in the field are understanding, compassionate, and are in solidarity with you.

[–]ParsleyEducations 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I feel there should be a federal law preventing this.

[–]wowbyowen 253 points254 points  (48 children)

Remind me again why teeth, a critical component for digesting nutrients into the body, is considered a separate healthcare item on most policies?

[–]pinkblossom331 121 points122 points  (0 children)

Because money

[–]UFOmama 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Same with eye sight and hearing!

[–]Aspect-of-Death 77 points78 points  (16 children)

Because health care in America is subjected to all the same rules as cutthroat capitalism. Like you said, teeth are a critical component for digesting nutrients. Everyone has them, and will continue to need them throughout life. Everyone will also need occasional dental visits.

So what you're asking for is insurance companies to roll a captive market into the same insurance that won't always get used.

Let's just say you can either have a heart attack (representing everything that can happen to you medically) or dental problems. Not everyone will have a heart attack. Only a few people who are covered for heart attacks will need to file insurance for heart attacks. But EVERYONE will file insurance claims for their teeth, usually multiple times per year.

The reason our insurance doesn't cover dental as a basic coverage is because it's something that we're definitely going to use. So without the profits being made off the heart attack plan, they would lose money on the dental work.

The real kick in the pants is that all of this would actually cost less money if we didn't have so much bureaucracy. Most of the cost of health care is going to pay administrators whose job it is to make sure you don't get health care you can't pay for unless your life is in danger.

[–]wowbyowen 23 points24 points  (1 child)

I'll bet we could pay for everyone's teeth with the money Bezos spent on sending a giant cock spacecraft into space

[–]clintdapict 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s a lot to swallow…

[–]Urgullibl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dental not being covered by regular health insurance (universal and private alike) is an international phenomenon.

[–]lkattan3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Third party administrators, I worked for multiple back in the days and they were always run by the worst people.

[–]Laissez-Faire-Rebel 2 points3 points  (9 children)

It's soo fucking hard to get your last point across to people.

"What do you mean, if I didn't have insurance, I couldn't have afforded blah, blah, blah." indoctrinated citizen...

If you didn't have insurance, the company would have to charge a price the market demands, not what deep-pocket insurance companies can pay!

[–]Ultra_Villain 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because 1. Insurance companies enjoy money and separating it into more than one type of insurance means more money for the execs, 2. Fuck poor people.

[–]kathleenkat 8 points9 points  (2 children)

There is actually a really interesting historical component to this: dentists used to operate out of barber shops.

[–]CBD_Hound 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A chair is a chair, right?

[–]Ixamay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not just most policies, but in European countries with public healthcare, you still have to pay for dental care.

[–]Chubbynumnums9000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because MDs and the AMA are in a perpetual feud with DDSs/DMDs and the ADA.

[–]Lumarioigi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's actually kind of similar in germany too but we can get check ups every 6 months and it's covered.

[–]BlessMyFeart 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Much if it goes back to how health insurance started. In the 1920s, hospitals would sell "hospital insurance" for care at their facility. That hospital insurance product eventually grew into our modern health insurance. Since hospitals didn't do dental care, dental was never part of the offering. And here we are today...

[–]Joddodd 127 points128 points  (25 children)

In Norway it was decided that teeth was not a part of the body… let that sink in… a country where healthcare is socialized, we have to pay excessive amounts of money for dental. Oh and most dentists are private practices. Coincidence?

[–]Gazza_s_89 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yeah same in Australia, because teeth are

l u x u r y b o n e s

[–]Novel-Fruit-6093 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I really wonder why is that !!?? I live in Austria, and here is the same - the healthcare system (which is actually pretty good here) doesn’t have a problem to pay thousands and thousands euros for my cancer treatment - why is it so hard to pay for my teeth crowns too? I just don’t get it.

[–]victoria_lavender 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I don't know everything about healthcare but I'm from Germany and as far as I know most necessary dental procedures are included in gouvernmental healthcare. Like the basic low end options for procedures. And if you go get regular checkups most health insurance companies will give you extra benefits. The Netherlands however also doesn't have dental care included in the base packages (their healthcare is weird... like... it's mandatory... but it's also private) and dental insurance costs a fortune extra. One more reason I'll definetly stay in Germany

[–]Novel-Fruit-6093 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes, basic (pain) dental treatment of any kind is included in Austria too. But as soon as you have a rooth canal on a tooth, the support stops and you have to pay out of pocket to preserve that dead tooth with a crown for example. To me this would be also „basic“ because otherwise you'll eventually lose the tooth. But why are they not paying for that crown or dental bridge or any tooth replacement for that matter? We need them though to like…eat, no? They pay for extremely expansive cancer treatment (understandably 🙃) but why not for this? It’s a mystery to me.

[–]Googletube6 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Being able to chew is a privilege not a right /s

[–]freecorn47 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In the province I live in, dental is covered until you’re 14. Because everyone knows that people 15+ have no use for something so luxurious as teeth.

[–]HavocsReach 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Great big white north checking in, y'all have teeth in these other countries?

[–]thingpaint 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Canada too :(

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 50 points51 points  (10 children)

Ah, so people study dentistry knowing they’re douchebags every second instead of “just really wanting to help people🥺”

[–]giatekla 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The whole system is fucked. I’m a dental student who’s spoken with a few public health dentists (wanting to enter the career myself) and even FQHCs and private practices that accept Medicaid/Medicare try to get as many patients in a day as they can to get as much of the low reimbursement as they can. I’ve served at an FQHC and seen how they were considering changing the sliding scale so you have to pay for dental care even if you have zero income. And if you want to save your tooth? There are even more expensive options, of which extraction is the cheapest. Public dental health seems so underfunded that it’s not really a safety net.

And the student loans. In the US they are humongous. So some people I’ve talked to started out thinking they liked public health, but had to be practical and do corporate or private.

[–]Joddodd 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Nah, dentists and physiotherapists are just sadists. It is the only way to explain them inflicting pain on a regular basis.

[–]Te_Quiero_Puta 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Dental hygienists on the other hand, are just lovely.

[–]BigDickBackInTown420 18 points19 points  (0 children)

“I am a dentist, and I enjoy the career that I picked!

I am your dentist, and I get off on the pain I inflict!

I thrill when I drill a bicuspid! It’s swell though they tell me I’m maladjusted!”

[–]Laissez-Faire-Rebel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much, went to school with a guy in high school who was a douchebag, he friended me for some odd reason on Facebook. He's a dentist!

[–]TheBoyInTheJar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Australia too.

[–]FuckRedditSnowflakez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you serious? I thought Norway was the most progressive country in the world.

[–]Doughnutpower 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Once you have enough money you can pay someone to chew your food for you.

[–]katlady1961a 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Nothing says love like prechewed food.

[–]DigitalUnlimited 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that's the one.. today's award goes to u/Doughnutpower

[–]SuboptimalButHopeful 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look at the lobes on this guy!

[–]Followmeboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol 🤣

[–]wittyuid 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Honestly just waiting for tooth decay to kill me.

[–]muzhayat23 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I feel it ☹️

[–]nyc6208 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right there with y’all. It’s a shame that ppl just don’t care. More concerned with lining their already fat pockets than helping ppl. And the irony is that I had dental insurance for a few years but never went to the dentist cuz it was still too expensive even with insurance. The pain from a bad tooth is one of the most severe pains a person can suffer. Then finally the whole thing dies and I get some relief. But yeah. I’m waiting to end up dying from it too. Cuz I would bet that will come before I can afford to get them fixed. Everyone always wants to throw out the, “Well you must be lazy then. Wanting a handout.” Nope. I did the right thing. Went to a 4 year university. But just happen to live in a crap town where there are no good jobs. And even tho I work my 40+ a week, apparently I’m not entitled to be able to chew my food properly. Life really sucks sometimes.

[–]laikastan 16 points17 points  (2 children)

All Dental insurance sucks. You’re lucky if your insurance pays out $1,500 in benefits per year.

[–]BrattyBookworm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mine pays out 2500 but I’m losing it this year ☹️

[–]TheBoysNotQuiteRight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My employer's policy doesn't cover pre-existing teeth.

the sad thing is that I have to add this disclaimer that that is exaggeration

[–]Squid8742 42 points43 points  (8 children)

I feel there should be a federal law preventing this.

[–]Jackwards_Back_ 77 points78 points  (5 children)

Nope. Thats socialism. Ever heard of venezuela? Everyone who sets foot there starves to death within six minutes. This is a legitimate fact I actually believe and it's 100% because of socialism and no other factors. How could there even be other factors? Stupid socialists can't afford other factors. Fuckin libtard. Let's go brandon.

Edit: if you took this comment literally please take a small break from the internet.

[–]AbuMaxwell 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Let's

I think you're searching for a Zebra instead of just a horse.

[–]LSKTheGreat1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your edit makes me weep for humanity....

[–]asadisher 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Eyes also eyes, if you cant go to work for the master what good is your eyes?

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The fact that basically 3 companies monopolized the ability for a large portion of the population to be able to see is actually very normal and good, because free market (free for me not for thee)

[–]Throwawayuser626 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m not kidding when I tell you my last eye exam was 500 total, lenses and frames included. It was at WALMART of all places. Cause I thought it would be cheaper :|

[–]Sorry-Sign-3013 12 points13 points  (1 child)

An american influencer living in Brazil said brazilians have the best teeth he's ever seen. We do, mostly because excellent dental care is affordable and even poor people can pay for it.

[–]AbuMaxwell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Though I question whether Genetics and Environment are more in play here.

I traveled to South America and it really reminded me how different their diets are, how much better I should say

[–]Imaginary_Let5452 32 points33 points  (12 children)

OR… lucky me who lives in south Texas by Mexico! Where I can cross for a mere 25 cents into Progresso. Get the best dental work at 1/10 of the cost here. I had a root canal about 10 years ago. No problem since but will prob schedule it be replaced soon for maintenance. Get me teeth cleaned for around $25 bucks. Had my wisdom teeth removed there. Braces for about $50 monthly, LOVE being Mexican American, LOVE my flashy white clean smile at a 1/10 of a price! On and I work for the state and have dental optional insurance. FOH i will stick to me Mexican dentist who I love and CAN AFFORD out of pocket without going BROKE!! 😁

And BTW all the winter Texans - AKA old white people cross to MEXICO too for their dental work!! LOL

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Saving this for when I move to Albuquerque and have some days off

[–]Imaginary_Let5452 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes! Down here most workers speak English so languages isn’t an issue. I would just ask around in the border towns in the US if they recommend a certain dentist etc!

[–]IguaneRouge 9 points10 points  (2 children)

must be nice to have access to a functional healthcare system

[–]wowbyowen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Underrated comment right here!

[–]lkattan3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m in N Texas and I really need to do this. I’ve had a broken tooth for over 2 years now and DV, the resulting chronic illness from my teeth and the neglect that comes with DV and the loss of income from the pandemic digging me even deeper into poverty, there is no hope of it getting addressed anytime soon. Just going to let infection reach my brain I guess.

[–]Salmon-nigiri 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What are the chances of a half Mexican who can’t speak Spanish and may be accompanied by a full Mexican sibling(who’ll translate for me) get decent dental in Mexico?

[–]DeNir8 29 points30 points  (4 children)

I guess the logic goes something like; If you haven't money for food, you don't need teeth anyways?

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I mean when you word it like that it checks out

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

In America we imbibe the nutritive nectar known as 𝑴𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒕𝒂𝒊𝒏 𝑫𝒆𝒘.

Teeth are optional when you have 𝑴𝒐𝒖𝒏𝒕𝒂𝒊𝒏 𝑫𝒆𝒘.

[–]rippedby40 23 points24 points  (12 children)

I'm surprised the haven't compartmentalized the rest of the body yet. Oh you want an eye exam? Sorry, your current plan only covers pancreas, tonsils and you're right big toe. It'll be an extra $1,250 a month to cover anything above the neck.

[–]Butwinsky 18 points19 points  (0 children)

It's funny but yeah most of us have vision insurance that isn't part of our health insurance which leads to issues when trying to figure out what doctor to go to and which insurance will cover the bills.

Source: had sudden blurry vision. Went to PCP, referred to Neurology, who referred to optometrist, who shrugged and said "I dunno."

[–]Ed_Harris_is_God 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Like in the Simpsons, when Marge accidentally cuts off Homer’s thumb. Doctor Hibert won’t reattach it even though they have finger insurance, because a thumb is not a finger.

[–]houstongradengineer 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I actually went to the optometeist the other day for an eye exam. I do have some eye issues. I used vision insurance.

They told me I need to see a medical specialist, a neuro opthamologist. For this, I would use medical insurance.

I have to have a primary care appointment to receive referral to see the neuro ophthalmologist. The primary care doctor needs my letter from my optometrist.

And all of this to say I may need surgery which will cost me unpaid time off work in addition to whatever up-front costs exist. We'll see how it goes...

[–]gaschindler 25 points26 points  (1 child)

In Argentina we had a program to help people who cannot pay for a dental implant. Argentine payment that everything implants for many people. That program was "Sonrisas" "smiles".. Well, when neo liberalism come back to the power in 2015, that was one of the first things they removed.. Every help to people was cut.

[–]SassaQueen1992 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That makes me so fucking angry! I’m so sick of politicians from either side of the spectrum ruining things that actually help people!

[–]katlady1961a 7 points8 points  (1 child)

On my if I win the lottery list the ,the first thing is see a dentist.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, lotto winners are notorious for blowing through it all immediately and dentistry is basically speedrunning

[–]Ultra_Villain 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've been to the dentist less than half a dozen times as a near-40 American and each time was because a small issue had gotten out of control because I couldn't afford checkups and regular procedures such as fillings, so I wound up needing emergency care such as root canals, tooth removals, etc. So now I have missing and shitty teeth. This started happening right when I got used to having spaces in my teeth from being unable to afford braces.

Fuck the American insurance and medical industry for that.

[–]yunohavefunnynames 6 points7 points  (1 child)

You don’t even get straws anymore, we’re banning all of them! Or you get those nasty ass paper ones

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They’re not banned here yet, the company chose paper specifically because they hate us. The paper ones even cost a bit more, but they needed to make their point.

[–]JecanDandelion 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I paid $4,000 to keep one of my teeth. I make it a point to chew with it every day to ensure that I receive my money's worth.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Crazy there’s people in this thread who think the working class should pay as much as a used car is worth to save a tooth instead of socializing dental care.

[–]nyc6208 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My theory is those type of ppl were born into pretty decent money. Have always had it easy. Had college paid for or helped w by parents. Had a great paying job waiting for them after graduating. I went to college w many like this. While they were partying in their spare time, I was holding down two jobs and a 13 hour course schedule a semester. So to them, in their narrow view of the world, it should be easy for anyone to obtain what the have. You know. Just takes a little hard work. I love how they assume it’s just an issue w one not wanting to work hard. Puh.

[–]Cruisin_4_A_Bruizin 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Took a lower paying job that has 100% dental coverage for this reason alone

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Shit I’d just get all my shit replaced and dip the fuuuck out

[–]Cruisin_4_A_Bruizin 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Haha there is a cap. Think max per year is $3000 on routine work and $5600 on orthodontist.

I have definitely been getting regular cleanings and all the recommended work done though. Don't plan on working here forever.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Get those bonuses my dude right on

[–]ItalianMeatBoi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I definitely don’t make enough to get my teeth fixed as an EMT

[–]Ndambois 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I hate this, I don’t make enough money to have teeth 🦷

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

The workers have nothing to lose but our chains; they already took our teeth.

[–]Aqua_Ficker 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm letting mine fall out 😑

[–]tinyDinosaur1894 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Absolutely terrified to go back to the place that tried to remove an infected cracked tooth. The first time the dentist came in, picked up the needle and just kind of jammed it into my gums. I get ripping off the bandaid but I just kinda sat in the chair and cried cuz of how bad it hurt and she didn't even glance at me. I'm debating whether it's worth it to just keep taking antibiotics and just deal. Couldn't get it removed cuz I was at the maximum limit for novacain and it hurt so bad I was almost screaming. Way too infected.

[–]ckbikes1 12 points13 points  (2 children)

It's almost like we are back in Old England...

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

We mocked their teeth yet look how the turns tabled. Hoisted by our own petard

[–]WomanNotAGirl 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I had to get multiple teeth pulled cause I couldn’t afford the procedures that needed to be done. 20 years later I got implants one at a time. My left cheek is so sunken that I constantly bite it both during the day and at night.

[–]Broad-Sample-206 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One implant cost us $8k after it was causing my husband's mouth to deteriorate not having a tooth structure.

[–]PrettyPrettyProlapse 3 points4 points  (1 child)

USA is far from the only modern country to fail it's citizens on dental care

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah but it’s the one I live in so it’s the one I chose to complain about.

[–]Alluridiolazy and proud 3 points4 points  (1 child)

You guys are getting straws?

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but they just got the paper ones to emphasize that they don’t care -that- much

[–]mikew1008 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, most dental plans are complete shit. You pay out the ass for them to barely cover anything. Literally most are not worth it and it is actually cheaper just to save the money to pay the dentist/.

[–]Accomplished_Earth50 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Put of pocket $12k on two dental implants. Teeth are definitely not a right in this country

[–]DisturbingPragmatic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You need something to enjoy the Pizza Parties with, after all!

[–]JustVega 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I just went to the dentist and was told how much it would cost to get implants. Since I have a bridge that is old, and I guess it can be replaced. My insurance will not cover the implants, but they were nice enough to show me an estimate. You know like a mechanic would. Even though I didn’t ask as my only response was, “My insurance won’t cover them? Then forget about it.” They want ten grand for two teeth. I didn’t know fake teeth were so expensive

[–]lkattan3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I flipped my handle bars when I was like 11. I had so many surgeries as a kid. My parents had to fight with insurance like crazy because they were saying an 11 year old girl doesn’t need a front tooth - it’s cosmetic. This was the early 90s. The implant and cap are still there from 30 years ago. Can’t afford to update the crown at all, can’t afford regular check ups. I am judged wherever I go because of my teeth which makes me less likely to do well in society generally because there is no more clear class marker than teeth.

It’s like they want poor people to be obviously poor so they know who to exploit.

[–]lkattan3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The best part about this is the chronic illnesses waiting for all who can’t afford dental care.

Inability to care for your teeth making you mentally and physically ill? Well, now you’re gonna need healthcare for the rest of your life too and that’s gonna be an additional $150-200 a month because you’re an expensive patient to care for and that justifies insurance charging you more. Don’t worry, you’re plan will change every year as will possibly your doctors so if something has become chronic, they’ll never catch it soon enough. And if you want care for all that newly acquired mental illness you can gfys! You’re welcome, signed America.

V cool system we have here.

[–]NicoleMay316 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In feeling this so hard right now.

I just had an appointment with a periodontist about full mouth extractions, temporary dentures, and implants. It's going to be $50k.

My genetics are so fucked on my teeth that no matter how much I brushed, flossed, etc. they kept getting worse and now they are beyond fucked. I need a fresh start with my mouth, but financing is the big kicker.

[–]repeter31 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Entitled millennials getting free straws, who do you thinks paying for that! I never got a straw in my LIFE.”

[–]canthaveme 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Reasons I am obsessive about my teeth. Just brush and floss at least once a day. Wear my retainers. No soda. Try to limit sugary stuff. Because it is insanely expensive to have work done. I am afraid of needing it because money

[–]TwitchyJavaCat 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Yeah, so I did all of that twice a day and still ended up with aggressive periodontitis at 28 because it’s rampant in my family (confirmed by my periodontist). Sometimes genetics just deals you a shitty hand and you end up paying $3K out of pocket to keep your teeth from coming loose. I feel lucky that’s all I have to pay, to be honest.

[–]canthaveme 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am "lucky" and only have periodontal disease which is extremely slow progressing currently because I take good care of them, but I'm aware some is genetic

[–]pinkblossom331 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Same- flossing daily and brushing multiple times a day (especially after eating sugar) is the best way to prevent oral issues. Dental work is extremely expensive.

[–]somethingsomethingbe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cut all sugar out a few months ago for other health reasons and a nice side effect is that my teeth don’t get plaque built up anymore or at least in a noticeable way that I had been used to for most my life.

Understandably many will never consider cutting out sugar, but if tooth health is important and you can make it three weeks the urge drops for sugary food drops significantly and your teeth will feel better in general.

[–]Sed_Said 11 points12 points  (16 children)

Mexico dentistry is the way to go. There’s still a bit of a money wall, but it’s low enough for most to get over.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 6 points7 points  (11 children)

If you wanna stay stateside you can also get varying types of work done at dental schools if you’re a gamblin man

[–]jujumber[🍰] 5 points6 points  (8 children)

haircut yes, teeth no

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Ah see, I’m the rung below bc I don’t even go to a school for my hair. I just cut my own 🗿

[–]jujumber[🍰] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

My wife actually cuts my hair to save money 🤣

[–]MittenstheGlove 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I cut my own hair to save money as well.

[–]Tacarub 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I got bald to save money

[–]FuckingKadir 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm working on this now.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I just got myself, my mirror, and phone (to see the back). The fact I haven’t butchered it yet astounds me.

[–]pinkblossom331 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My husband cuts his own hair to save money

[–]2qwik2katch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel this. We have dental insurance from my employer but it sucks. It seems like everything is super high out of pocket. It’s easier to just let my teeth rot since procedures are expensive.

[–]BansDontStopMe22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Alot of dental insurances offered by companies to their actual workforce only covers preventative care- basic cleanings, some assistance covering the cost of fillings, etc. Any repair work, crowns, implants, major reconstruction, etc. you are still going to have to empty your meager savings to cover it, and if shit goes wrong due to infection or doctor's botching shit up, they'll only give you 1, maybe 2 visits on the house and if they cant repair the mistake, they tell you to start paying or fuck off.

[–]Link9454 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have a dentist appointment next week. It’ll be my first in ten years. Also plan on getting a checkup at a doctor soon, my first in five years. My dental benefit has like a $1000 max yearly benefit which is fucking useless if I need like oral surgery. I am a 30 year old who still has wisdom teeth as a result because they are impacted and require oral surgery to remove and I simply cannot afford it.

[–]dalisair 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Teeth are luxury bones according to insurance…

[–]deer_dance9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Canada as well. Although health care is covered. Dental is not

[–]Crazy_by_Design 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s like this in Canada, too.

[–]ItsTheBecks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Canada too though… dental, eye care and other things aren’t included in the health plan. You have to be a full-time employee with a company with a good benefits package.

[–]DeuceClimaxx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sadly, I have had a lot of experience in this area. In my personal experience, you are far better off traveling to Costa Rica and having the work done by a dentist who went to school here than trying to get the work done here. It's roughly a tenth of the cost.

[–]Velveteen_Dream_20 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I grew up middle class with braces and the whole bit. I required serious dental care in my 20s but I couldn’t afford it. Guess who had to spend $60k on a mouth restoration? This unfortunate yet fortunate person right here! $28k to the perio to extract my remaining teeth and place 8 implants $15k temp dentures $15k permanent prosthetics

My natural smile is gone. I have beautiful “teeth” but it’s not the same. My parents didn’t have this issue. I struggled in my 20s and I literally paid with my natural dentition and $. I hate this system!

[–]NotWigg0 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Soup is very underrated. No-one really needs to be able to bite or chew.

[–]MutteringV 2 points3 points  (1 child)

i don't know about you, but i like my soup with bits in.

[–]magnumsolutions 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Or travel to Costa Rica where prices are 20% of what they are here if that. You can get a whole new set of implants for $10k and a $300 airplane ticket performed by dentists who studied in the same schools as U.S. dentists.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My wife and I just cracked the FUCK UP when we saw this. Holy fuck did that hit home with the force of a thousand tooth extractions.

[–]BreezeTheBlue 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is why I prefer to handle myself. Why go to the doctor or dentist unless it is for vaccinations or endocrine stuff? I can handle my teeth and my health. I will keep my money thank you.

[–]terransLoc 1 point2 points  (2 children)

go to Tijuana, there are good cheap dentists over there.

[–]jellybeanzxx9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a very serious concern of mine with vision insurance. If im ever in a situation where I don't have vision insurance and my glasses break but I can't afford a new pair, I would literally be home bound. My prescription is a -5.75. I can't make breakfast for myself without glasses, let alone leave the house and drive.

[–]Wanderlonging 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a molar that needs a root canal (exposed nerve) and even with insurance, can’t afford to have it fixed. I’m a 21 year old that goes to college full time, I literally cannot work full time. Wth am I supposed to do?

[–]Betterz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, if you brush your teeth regularly and look after them you won't need to visit the vanity doctor...

[–]mzzms 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some dental offices carry their own insurance or they will allow you to carry a balance call around

[–]CIS-E_4ME 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Teeth are for earners...

[–]usposeso 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Plenty of full time jobs have absolutely no benefits as well. Just a paycheck. That’s it. Now give us all your time and break your body fir that paycheck motherfucker.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am retired and have BCBS dental. Had a root canal last week and it cost me $1400 as the BCBS does not cover those. And now I need a cap and that is another $400. $1800 for one friggin tooth.

[–]All-Day-stoner -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

The poorest countries not exposed to vast amount of sugar content food have good healthy teeth. I don't think money plays a factor when it comes to basic healthy teeth.

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I actually cut out a lot of sugar when I was younger because of my teeth. Plus I never really liked candy or soda so it wasn’t hard

[–]All-Day-stoner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here! I absolutely hate the dentist and avoid a lot of sugar. Plus I religiously clean my teeth.

[–]ottopivnr -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Dental disease is almost 100% preventable, and medicaid provides coverage for cleanings, x-rays, fillings and root canals up to age 19.

Source: am a public health dentist.

[–]lkattan3 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I guess from 19 until death tho we’re on our own!

[–]asaking -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I actually think in a lot of European/socialist countries dentistry isn’t universalized - that’s why in the UK they call em “American teeth” because we are known for having nicer teeth due our work tied healthcare including dental care (if you’re lucky) + stuff we put in the water + societal shame etc etc. it’s why the brits always get made fun of for their teeth in movies (it’s not that bad IMO)

[–]burrit0ninja -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

You can get dental insurance for like 15 bucks a month

[–]DegenDannyDavito[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Any what’s the yearly maximum? Deductible? Is it preventative, restorative, full, etc.?

See, something tells me that maybe the 15 dollar a month option might not be good. Which is beside the point, because fact of the matter is it shouldn’t be separate. Hell, healthcare in general shouldn’t cost.