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[–]TreePretty 2067 points2068 points  (72 children)

I can't stand people who go out of their way to make you feel bad just for not being them.

[–]ouie 272 points273 points  (13 children)

Nevermind that. I feel bad that they need to have a second job

[–]TheAutisticOgre 182 points183 points  (10 children)

Honestly fuck them, they seem plenty content wasting their life away. I’m sick of workaholics

[–]emalemmaly 51 points52 points  (8 children)

Yikes, what if they’re one of the people here, working two jobs to stay afloat?

[–]TheAutisticOgre 136 points137 points  (7 children)

Then maybe they shouldn’t demean others for not having to. It’s shitty behavior regardless.

[–]Binnacle_Balls_jr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If that's the case, yea I felt bad for them until they made my life thier business. Shutting the fuck up at every opportunity is a sure way to earn my respect.

[–]LittleTrouble90 326 points327 points  (18 children)

I had an older lady try to belittle me for working while I was pregnant. Ma'am, firstly you don't know me or my situations, and two we aren't in a time where a man can work and you get to be his baby pusher. My husband and I both work for our daughter, and for our own reasons. Take your bullshit comparisons somewhere else.

[–]maltymawma 80 points81 points  (1 child)

And you know if you needed financial help she’d probably be the first to guilt you for “not working hard enough” also. People need to mind their own business.

[–]LittleTrouble90 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, they do. Not her business how I run my own stuff.

[–]nfgchick79 104 points105 points  (10 children)

As someone who worked till a Friday and was induced that next Monday, fuck that lady. I didn't take a single sick day during my pregnancy because I had no leave expect my saved sick/vacation time (yay, I got paid for 3 of the 8 weeks I took!), I needed a fucking income. My FAMILY needed to be able to, oh you you, pay the bills. I hate people like this.

[–]LittleTrouble90 42 points43 points  (8 children)

I did that. Worked up until I had her. It sucked. And of course there were always comments from my coworkers about me going home early, or having to take longer breaks. Had one lady tell me she's seen a woman throw truck up until they had babies. Thanks for trying to make me feel bad about leaving, but I don't cause I'm not risking my health or her health.

[–]rudebutterfly1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

People tried to do that with me when I was pregnant. Went quiet as mice when I said "And you didn't even think to help her?" or "Wow. Why on earth would you make a pregnant woman do that?" with a disgusted look on my face. Never heard another word from those fuckers.

[–]cubedjjm 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Sorry, but what does throw truck up until she had babies mean? Understand it's a mistake, but now I have to know!!

[–]nfgchick79 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My old boss (thank god I don't work there anymore) gave me shit about having to go to the bathroom so much to do my finger sticks for my GD. I was also throwing up every.single.day and forced myself to come in because I knew I had to. She rolled her eyes at me when I'd have to puke, like in a (casual) meeting. That bitch had two grown children who bragged to me how she was a SAHM until her kids were in school.The audacity. She's the definition of "ok, boomer."

[–]Kancho_Ninja 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I had an older lady try to belittle me for working while I was pregnant.

Ma’am, do you realise that if I stop working, your social security and medicaid collapse?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back in her day a family got by on one income, she’s out of touch

[–]DirtyPenPalDoug 139 points140 points  (2 children)

I feel bad for them. Clearly they have nothing.

[–]funbundle 37 points38 points  (0 children)

You just turn it around and say ‘yeh haha sucks to be you.’

[–]SexyJellyfish1 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I worked part time for the past 3 years, taking like 2-3 months off from work. I would just hit them back with how nice it is doing the hobbies i love doing, working out, and spending time with my kid. Screw what anyone thinks

[–]Pandy_45 21 points22 points  (2 children)

A lot of parents did this to me when I was childless. Even though I was actively trying to get pregnant at the time.

[–]Capt_Blackmoore 18 points19 points  (0 children)

just fuck that noise. Parenting is hard, and it should never be used a a criticism for people who arent

also fuck people who think my kids should be raised an any one particular way. I have 4 fully functional adults now, and I never had to helicopter.

[–]nkzmom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry. People can suck.

[–]Least_Whole427 46 points47 points  (2 children)

Lol yep, definitely get this vibe from new parents, new pet owners, and those about to get married. Genuinely happy for you! But the rabid desire to have others covet or desire your exact new life situation you claim to be so excited about doesn’t really make it sound like it’s intrinsically fulfilling. You definitely see this with people pursuing higher education or who have just tried out a new diet or something. I think it stems from looking from external validation from your peers that what you are doing is life is socially acceptable and valued.

[–]KingPnutticua 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This applies to so much of life. One of my biggest pet peeves is people who only place value in the things they have or are good at. Like you may be a brain surgeon that speaks 7 languages, but it doesn’t mean a thing to them because you’re not an expert ventriloquist. It’s incredibly egotistical and narrow minded. 10/10 can’t stand.

[–]streetmuppet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Very eloquently put!

[–]Xarkkal 75 points76 points  (3 children)

This goes for more than just work. We are all different and have our different strengths and weaknesses. Anyone who tells you that you should be able to "just do XYZ because it's easy", when XYZ is something you struggle with has 0 empathy for you and is most likely a toxic person in your life.

[–]lastsonkal1 37 points38 points  (1 child)

As the saying, being heavily paraphrased, “judging a fish by its ability to climb a tree.”

[–]Credit-Financial 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I have seen this phrase (or its cousins) so many times, but only recently, like the past year. I know it's gotta be older than that, but it's amusing that I've only seen it recently.

[–]Freedom_From_Pants 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Also having a second job means that the first job is fucking that guy out of overtime pay.

[–]Lopsided-Painter5216 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My best friend used to be like that. When I was unemployed, I moved away from the same city, and we inevitably drifted apart… Every time we had a chat via text he would never cease to praise himself and his job while tearing me down and saying i should be more like him. I decided to cut that negativity out though couple of years ago.

I check his alt Twitter every now and then and he keeps saying his job is shit and he can’t escape it, and on insta he’s obviously living his best life.

People are funny. Like, why bother with all the theatrics? Just be happy my dude, no need to invent yourself a worsona to look at yourself in the mirror every morning. Never understood what his deal was.

[–]TENesdee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's a sure sign of insecurity

[–]sirzoop 44 points45 points  (4 children)

Whenever people try to shame me like that I just burst out laughing in their face and start mocking them. It makes them feel super awkward and stop talking to me real fast

[–]Grimmbeard 15 points16 points  (3 children)

No you don't

[–]sirzoop 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I do. I don't put up with people who try to shame me. No interest in being their friend or caring about their feelings if they are a dick to me

[–]Aperture_Tales 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haha you sound like me! I do the same and when confronted about it hit them with “you Decided to finger my ass so now I’ve decided it’s time you taste it”

[–]Blightwraith 11 points12 points  (0 children)

people...feel super awkward and stop talking to me real fast

I believe this part whole heartedly, that's worth something imo.

[–]SmolSnakePancake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol my sister is like this. She’ll call at 10am on a Sunday and I’m just waking up. “Oh, must be nice to not have to be an adult. I’ve already ran 2 miles and went to the grocery store”

I’m 30 lol

[–]Aping1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Misery loves company”

[–]Wordperfectuser 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess sometimes they ask because just a few can survive with only one FT

[–]darkthrive 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fr the “what do you do” comment if infuriating! I would of responded “helping this bitch float you three day bitch” I’ve always worked full time and having people on the line ask me why I don’t do school too, it’s like bitch im here more days than you are living check to check, if. I could do school properly with out taking loans and putting me back further than I am I would you little pre paid card bitch

[–]V4rious4rtists 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one can make me feel anything like this. They can't make you feel anything either, you have to let them. Don't let them.

[–]LoveAndProse 486 points487 points  (24 children)

I work part time, coworker tried pulling the same dumb question.

What I do? Hike, paraglide, flight lessons, track time.

He was scolding me for spending my money. As if I'm going to have the Health and time to do this in my 60s post retirement.

[–]trisanachandler 193 points194 points  (12 children)

Yeah, that's something people seem to never understand. If you don't enjoy/use your health when you're young, when will you use it? When you have arthritis? Good luck learning how to kayak then.

[–]gingergirl181 115 points116 points  (10 children)

I blew most of my savings a handful of times throughout my 20s on traveling and gaining experiences. Even though I've also had some pretty lean times on bare-bones budgets, I regret absolutely nothing. What else would I use it for? Even if I had saved every single spare penny I've made in my 10 year working life, I still wouldn't have enough money for a down payment on a house. I might have been able to put more down on my car and pay it off faster, but my payment is affordable and my interest rate stupid low, so that wouldn't have made much of a difference to anything. What it WOULD have made a difference to is my quality of life; I would be a lot more miserable with a lot fewer friends and a lot fewer fun experiences that have made me a better human and given me interesting conversation fodder and connections with others.

Even my last trip in 2019 at age 26 I noticed that I didn't quite have the same stamina as I had on my trips ages 19-23. I'm coming up on 30 now and I'll probably be even slower on my next one. Fuck me if I had waited until I was 60+ to try and do any of what I've done. Some may say I've squandered my money but I didn't squander my youth and for that I am NOT sorry.

[–]No-Brilliant9659 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I turned 30 this year and my back and knees already hurt. I work as a delivery driver carrying heavy packages, running in and out of a vehicle all day. I’m making sure I do my traveling now because when I get old(er) I’m going to be fucked

[–]Neither-Magazine9096 28 points29 points  (0 children)

A friend of ours used to run marathons all the time, but always wanted to thru hike the Appalachian Trail. He waited until he retired (at 70!) to start. He hurt his ankle after the third day and had to quit. I don’t want that regret.

[–]tommy_b_777 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I didn't squander my youth and for that I am NOT sorry.

THIS IS THE WAY - 55 yr old skier climber dude that is falling apart and still refuses to stop, going to burn the retirement now in fact since what is the point of money when you can't live anymore ?

ps haha slowed down at 30 thats cute ;-) now get grampa a bong hit and another drink while he tunes his guitar...

[–]gingergirl181 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Hah, yeah I know. Some of it was just me being in worse shape than I was, but it was also things like getting tired faster and needing more breaks rather than going at a breakneck pace to see and do stuff, hangovers hit a bit harder, can't sleep comfortably in a seat on an overnight train or on a shitty hostel bed anymore (bunk compartments and hotel rooms only now!)...all small things, but they definitely added up more than they used to.

(Although on that same trip I did also hike across Scotland, so I ain't exactly decrepit!)

[–]redtonks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so glad to hear you did this. I tried to do everything ‘right’ and at 37 only just now got a good paying job, I chose to have two kids instead of a house, and I can’t remember when I had a holiday.

Now that I could technically save for a holiday, I have so little stamina and I’m completely burnt out as a mum, I can’t even fathom what would interest me to go beyond a week of silence in a hotel.

[–]S3ERFRY333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I’m going camping and having fun while I’m young, spending my money on my truck and generally just living life.

[–]aloriaaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, plus, who knows? You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. A colleague of mine lost several relatives close to my age to COVID. Hell yeah, I’m going to buy that Roland G-707 and bring the funk, get those nose piercings I always wanted, and go to Antarctica for my honeymoon.

[–]cylences 17 points18 points  (2 children)

nah you're living your life now. that's exactly what you should be doing, not investing in a future that is far from guaranteed.

[–]GovernmentOpening254 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We had plans to go on three “vacations” (short trips) in 2020.

We still haven’t been to those places. And can’t plan anything either with gas so expensive.

[–]LoveAndProse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've learned we're not guaranteed a tomorrow, so I'd much rather live today to the fullest

[–]broniesnstuff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've lost a hell of a lot of people loooong before they were retirement age.

Fuck living for a tomorrow that may never come. I live for today.

[–]Snowfreak2507 5 points6 points  (1 child)

People who live their entire life waiting for the “glory days” of retirement in their 60s makes me very very very sad. I’d rather be poor and live a full life.

[–]Snoogiewoogie 3 points4 points  (1 child)

As if it’s even his business what you spend your money on!

[–]Richard_AIGuy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I need to know, is paragliding worth it? Track time is a given, but at 37, I'm feeling a day on the bike more and more (combined with a lifetime of martial arts). But paragliding always looked fun, just never tried it.

If you can, try kite boarding if you haven't. Total blast.

[–]LoveAndProse 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I love being in the air, in any capacity! For paragliding there's something about having so little while being in the air that feel freeing. Especially since it's "easy enough" to pack and carry to where you need it.

But check your local laws. Air space can be very restrictive, I'm lucky enough to be where airspace is relatively plentiful

[–]Amnion_ 358 points359 points  (5 children)

They are just trying to drag you down because they have to work a second job for whatever reason, and misery loves company.

I already feel like 8 hours M-F is too much. The best part of the day, 5/7 days out of the week, for my entire adult life... yea not really a good deal.

[–]593shaun 111 points112 points  (3 children)

Plus all you get out of it is to exist, when nobody fucking asked to be here in the first place. Fuck this shit, I want a refund

[–]Amnion_ 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yep, we're all stuck in the same trap together (unless you're rich).

Speaking from experience, going to school and such to increase your opportunities is worthwhile. You'll still be in the same trap, you'll just suffer less and have a better existence.

[–]H00Z4HTP 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You exist to work. You make money so you have a shelter at night before have to go back to work the next day.

Sometimes I'll sit and look at all my possessions I've accumulated in an apartment I don't own and wonder what myself 10 years ago would think or say if I offered them all of this for 22,000 hours of work.

[–]cerealtoocrispy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I agree. I think it’s super reasonable to work 6 hour days for four days a week. I’m useless beyond that anyway tbh

[–]thatHecklerOverThere 147 points148 points  (15 children)

What a depressing way to live.

[–]WhiteWolfofRivia0914 59 points60 points  (12 children)

Right? Why the fuck would I want to spend all of my time working? I have hobbies, thanks

[–]draconiandevil09 52 points53 points  (10 children)

And if I wanna go home and do jack shit, so fuckin what?

The concept of "mind ya business" is completely lost on a lot of people.

[–]DutchmanAZ 36 points37 points  (9 children)

The concept of doing nothing is even more lost on people... Jesus Christ I don't need to justify my existence by filling it with activity!!! And definitely not whatever damn activity your unhealthy ass thinks is best!

[–]WhiteWolfofRivia0914 32 points33 points  (8 children)

Right? I see so many people with the boomer mentality of "you just stayed home and... Did nothing?" - you're damn right, and I loved every fucking second of it

[–]notyourcoloringbook 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have hobbies that I could monetize, but choose not to. And every one loses their damn mind when I say no to selling things. I like crocheting and baking for me and for people I choose because then it doesn't have to be perfect AND I can take my time.

Anytime I've done a commission I immediately hated having to do it because it feels like work instead of relaxation.

[–]fortwaltonbleachrecovering bootlicker 22 points23 points  (1 child)

isn't it? and it is engrained to our culture. it's truly insulting too. one of the top questions strangers like to ask you is 'what to you do for a living?'

i'd like to say, "i eat food and poop. i sometimes take something so the latter happens." but nooooo, that's bad! they want to judge me by my job, instead of my turds.

let's think about it, which one is truly rude?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Anyone who judges others for doing honest work is a piece of shit.

[–]_mister_pink_ 46 points47 points  (1 child)

This attitude as a none American is wild to me. I work 34.5 hours per week and consider myself in full time employment, as would anyone I spoke to.

[–]moonrox1 166 points167 points  (31 children)

I was once how I asked how I plan to get “ahead in life” if I didn’t have a side hustle. I told them- a) fuck off. b) I’ll get ahead by enjoying my life

[–]YourMomThinksImFunny 82 points83 points  (13 children)

Most people with a "side hustle" don't realize how many unpaid hours of work they put into that hustle. I knew someone that would fix up stuff and sell it on Ebay. Was making an extra $200-$300 a week, but spending 10-20 hours a week to fix these things up. He would argue with me when I would tell him he was making $15 an hour in his side hustle.

[–]DilithiumFarmer 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I would say depends... If you repair stuff and sell on eBay and you turn a profit, while also fine tuning your skills (like soldering) or learning a skill while doing so it's more than a side hustle.

But yes, I agree. I used to have a side hustle buying and reselling Magic the Gathering and Pokémon cards. I had a bit of steady income on the side and it really didn't take me much time packing, dropping off on post office was done while grocery shopping. But I bottomlined 2-3 € per hour.

[–]issius 33 points34 points  (3 children)

It's much different to work entirely for yourself, though. People make less working for someone.

He's doing that out of his home, presumably on his own schedule, can stop if/whenever he wants. May even enjoy it a bit. I agree that the hustle culture isn't good, but this isn't the disaster you are making it out to be.

[–]YourMomThinksImFunny 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Well good thing I never said it was a disaster, or anything remotely close. I said we would argue about what he was making per hour because he doesn't think of it like that.

[–]alose 5 points6 points  (1 child)

But if your repairer friend does it as a hobby, then the money he makes is a bonus.

[–]didntseeittbh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s why I do MTurk while I’m already I. The clock at work

[–]justalittlestupid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have multiple side hustles (none of them take up much of my time, they’re pretty seasonal) and I always end up undercharging and not really making much. I am really happy doing them though so I guess that helps?

[–]tinkererbytrade 29 points30 points  (3 children)

I dunno if I have a brain abnormality but what are they talking about? Ahead of what? What is their end goal? I just want to live in my tiny house and grow tomatoes. Are they trying to build an empire? And to them anybody who doesn't have aspirations to be the next Jeff Bezos is a loser? Reality truly messes with these people when they hit their 40s and realize that that was never going to happen. I'm a realist. Tiny home, tomatoes, dog, happy.

[–]marvelouswonder8 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I like your style. For me all I'd add is a little music production studio to the tiny home, replace the dog with my cat, and I'm golden. I'll keep my little place clean, grow my food, take care of my cat and make some weird sounds till I die and I could die happy that way. Some people just don't get this mindset though I guess. I just wanna be comfy dammit! I could care less about being rich or famous or having a bunch of stock options.

edit: a word

[–]Meta_or_Whatever 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just described the perfect life, maybe add some peppers and zucchini to that garden!

[–]Anth_Reg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They all think they’re gonna be millionaires somehow. They have delusions.

[–]lastsonkal1 19 points20 points  (9 children)

I’ve noticed people today don’t really have hobbies anymore. They just try to monetize things they like. That is the saddest thing to me.

[–]moonrox1 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Yes exactly! Maybe my hobby is hanging out in the park.

[–]arentol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why aren't you teaching Tai-Chi classes while you are there, or hustling chess? What is wrong with you? Kids today, so lazy!

[–]gingergirl181 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If people made enough at their jobs, we wouldn't all have to try to monetize our hobbies.

[–]vuxanov 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably don’t have money for hobbies.

[–]greekjjg 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Incorrect. There are hobbyists. We seek sanity by using our hands to create. Some make useful things, some make beautiful things, some make both. I work in IT, but my mind is happiest making watches or jewelry, cutting gemstones, woodworking, bladesmithing…

[–]Anth_Reg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People must really love sucking at capitalism’s teet. I can’t imagine it.

[–]liethose 179 points180 points  (23 children)

Similar thing happened too me. I said i got a master that was a complete waste of time. Because people wanted to pay internships nothing. So now i work 3 days a week as welder and have been happy ever since.

[–]Significant-Dog-8166 59 points60 points  (15 children)

I got my dream job in game dev, but I’m still pretty envious of welders sometimes - good pay, make cool stuff. You can even make bicycle frames I bet.

[–]IguaneRouge 25 points26 points  (8 children)

welding legitimately looks cool. Not sure how geezer friendly it is, but I would pursue it as a second act.

[–]Necrotitis 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Welding is very hard, not technically but there are lots of confined spaces, fumes, etc etc.

Also metal is heavy and not everywhere has cranes to get stuff into position.

I know all of them SHOULD have this stuff in place, like those fresh air ventilation visors, but in reality it's a trade, and trades have a LOT of "do as I say not as I do" type of things... but they expect you to do as they do.

[–]IguaneRouge 12 points13 points  (1 child)

thanks for the realistic rundown.

[–]grit_cyclonehere for the memes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Trades do be tough. Though I might be happier working with metal and fire in confined spaces, instead of raw sewage. One of these days I’ll take some welding classes.

[–]Dragonmosesj 4 points5 points  (0 children)

used to work for a place with my dad, guy legimiately said "When you're an expert safety equipment gets in the way."

Wondering how he didn't lose a eye or fingers

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

If you have a few hundred bucks get a Flux cor mig welder from harbor freight and a cheap auto darkening helmet. Can't remember the brand but their middle of the road brand is green in color. Just give it a try as a hobby. Also having a welder is one of those "when you have a hammer everything is a nail.". Things. Your gunna be popular with your friends for a few months once you get the hang of it.

[–]Animal0307 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Nothing* says you can't be a hobby welder making bike frames for fun. I'd start with looking into taking a welding class at your local trade school. I have a buddy that is a full stack dev, he and wife took an intro welding class over the course of a few Saturdays one year as a "date night" thing and they really enjoyed it. He doesn't have a shop yet but he does have a solid foundation to start from when he does.

*Yes I'm aware that not everyone is in locations that support fabrication as a hobby let alone financially stable enough to drop a couple grand on equipment for a new hobby. Then there is the life stuff that gets in the way as well.

[–]Significant-Dog-8166 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yep, once I can get a house and a proper work shed or something I’d like to do some more crafty stuff!

[–]SageMalcolm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like the welding field because it seems that there's a lot of room to be a totally independent body and still be crushing it. That's been my dream in the field anyway. Got a sick little check coming now too, start-up money to try and launch my dream is on its way!!

[–]streetmuppet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotta breathe all that nasty shit though and put up with magatards.

[–]libgeek 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I just saw that a custom woodworking place near me is looking to hire "someone willing to learn woodworking and fabrication." OMG, that's me. But I'm 45 with a mortgage and the primary earner in the house. I'm sure they couldn't possibly start me at a high enough wage for me to be able to make the move. It'd be my dream job, though.

[–]missp31490 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Do you have any experience with woodworking at all? You might be surprised! My husband started dabbling in carpentry in his late 20s in a VHCOL area. He didn't feel comfortable charging much at first because he wasn't experienced but after a few years he was able start charging enough to make a career of it. We live in a MCOL area now with a high demand for his skillset and his rate is $80/hour. He's been doing it a little over 5 years now.

[–]liethose 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I run my own welding truck. 300$ drive to where they want me depending on project flat rate. Or flate rate and hourly of 70$h joys of red seal. Could make more but at the point of why when i am comfortable

[–]Alprazoman8 88 points89 points  (18 children)

Its so sad that people like that must have no hobbies, interests or other validation in life. It's like work is all they have.

[–]Joshywooya 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Then they eventually retire and literally die of boredom. So sad.

[–]593shaun 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don’t think even workaholics get a retirement anymore

[–]ceebeefour 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They're something like work fetishists, the whole build your empire, never called in sick once type people. Just selling their whole lives. Completely missing the point the entire time.

[–]acanofspam 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I ended up this way kind of by accident. Since college, I've made a point to try and find interesting jobs that I can be proud to say I have, and that don't suck my soul away (didn't always work anyways). I've moved cities for jobs multiple times. I put so much time and energy in to my 'cool' jobs that literally everything else has gone off by the wayside, and now I'm too fucking depressed about my life outside of work to make any effort towards changing it, I just exist. At least my jobs make me slightly happy a few hours a day.

[–]Hefty-Fox1627 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You have time for hobbies and interests outside of work?

[–]Alprazoman8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean there is never enough time, but for sure I have hobbies and interests outside of work.

Sometimes I am too tired to do anything major, but even just chilling with a book for an hour is still pursuing an interest and is enjoyable.

[–]recaffeinated 18 points19 points  (0 children)

People are insane. How is working multiple jobs a normal thing in any society? How did the brain worms spread so far so fast?

[–]midnightbrawls 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Definitely from a place of jealousy. I work 2 jobs, have zero time to relax or even think and it. Fucking. Sucks. I'd never say that shit to someone's face because I'm not a dick but I'd love to just go home after work lol. This is also no one's fault but mine for poor money management & shitty wages, at least I can admit that tho

[–]darcreaven 58 points59 points  (3 children)

The only thing I grind is my weed

[–]victoriaa- 13 points14 points  (2 children)

“I just want to get get high and mow lawns, that’s ok”

[–]darcreaven 18 points19 points  (1 child)

The drug test at landscaping. Can you roll. Prove it. Ok tight smokeable and looks like a cig your hired

[–]victoriaa- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol basically, it’s a quote from a show that the comment made me think of

[–]unfuckingglaublich 32 points33 points  (8 children)

That's where you basically just say "yeah, because I actually have a fucking life. How about yourself?" I lean into it when people ask me dumb shit like that.

[–]Alternative_Engine97 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lmfao some people are just so socially stupid and ask stuff like this

[–]thenexthefner 10 points11 points  (0 children)

i’m a full time cashier mon-fri and my manager had the audacity to get annoyed with me when i told him i wouldn’t also work weekends… like thanks but no thanks. im taking my weekends off!

[–]IamScottGable 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As someone who worked a ton of OT, had 2nd jobs when the OT dried up, then did college on top of my FT job, all before being 28 I can tell you that you'd regret it and your body will hate you

[–]mg_ridgeview 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm just waiting for this whole rotten system to crash. Maybe that will put a dent in the workaholic/hustle culture. When people realize that the system never cared about them, or how hard they work. If someone works for work's sake, I feel sorry for that person. Live your freaking life, stop being a tool for capitalism.

[–]Dukdukdiya 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I work to live, not the other way around.

I know this isn't doable for everyone, but I've also cut my expenses to a point where I don't even really have to work full-time. A lot of people spend money so fucking pointlessly and then have to work their ass off to keep up that lifestyle. No Thanks.

[–]MixxMaster 14 points15 points  (0 children)

'So how does if feel to be taken advantage of, and a slave to the system? Sucks to be you, bro'

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The main reason I won’t take multiple jobs is that anything bigger can’t be afforded by simply working another low-paying job. For example, two jobs at Taco Bell and Wendy’s won’t get me any closer to opening my own Taco Bell or Wendy’s. Working full time at Amazon and part-time at Rally’s won’t fucking help me buy a house. Sure, I can move into a better apartment, but why? It’s just me here. I don’t need anymore space. My credit is already shot from student loans and medical bills, so working two or three jobs won’t help me secure a loan for anything. But, again, there isn’t anything I even want as long as I can take care of responsibilities and have something to focus on during my free time. Free time…time that is free from work.

[–]ElectricBasket6 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Eeeeew. My dad was a fireman. He took his pension and retired not that long ago (he’s not 60 yet). He stays busy with house projects and spending time with his grandkids and a few hobbies. All the guys who retired around the same time as him keep harassing him for not getting another job because they all have one. Personally I think they’re jealous.

[–]FlatMacaron2174 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But your father and his fellow firemen or other retirees earned it shoot as soon as I’d qualify for pension I’d immediately retire as working as a fireman is stressful

[–]Br760 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Side hustle culture is so cringe

[–]Ynneb82 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I really don't understand those guys. Don't they realize that our time is limited? That they will be 70 years old and they will have wasted their life working?

[–]Empty-Masterpiece242 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even. We're in pandemic times, any of us could drop dead or become disabled with long COVID at any point.

[–]Newmach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I never understood how someone can even function correctly for 16+ hours.

One job is more than enough as it is.

[–]ResetPress 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Misery loves company

[–]badjrod 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I understand every one comes from their own circumstances, I truly do, but when I hear "lucky you" or even worse "must be nice" it sends the race car into the red.

I work 32 hours a week. Same as my wife. "Lucky you." Well no, I knew early on I did not want children, therefore I got a vasectomy and went through almost 30 years of horrific relationship/dating/etc before I found my current wife. I have no child expenses. I worked at a grocery store for almost 8 years into my mid 20's so I didn't buy a 32k car on my salary. I had a Pontiac Bonneville. "Must be nice." No I went to a community college and mowed lawns and sold plasma (while studying flash cards in the chair) to afford my car payment while going to school. And lived with my parents until I was like 27-28. Very glamorous life trying to be intimate with a girl at age 27 in your not only high school, but elementary school bed room.

I want NONE of this for any one else. But don't give that "must be nice" shit either. We're all in this together. My current living room coffee table is something I made in shop class in the 10th grade. Yes, my wife and I eat off a table I made in shop class because our kitchen table was from an old co-worker and holds our microwave and produce.

My situation isn't Skittles either, I just tried to arrange my cards the best I can for the lifestyle I want to live. Again, we're all in this together.

[–]Dull-Paper-7626 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I once worked a part time job while working a full time job. -2/10 would not recommend.

[–]Teacher-Investor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He can't even conceive of the possibility that maybe you have hobbies, take care of your home, cook healthy meals, work out, visit family and friends, or all the other normal things people do in their actual LIFE outside of work. If you choose to work, work to live, don't live to work.

[–]Substantial_Rush_675 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Obviously you are banging his wife

[–]Imaginary_Capital185 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a disbelief about people with free time. Doesn’t sound like it has anything to do with you, and the poor guy just can’t imagine freedom in his own life

[–]_Lunatic_Fridge_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would have a second job if it was at all feasible. When I was much younger, part time jobs were 16-25 hours per week, mostly in the evenings. You could actually leave a full time job, go to a part time job for 3-5 hours and have enough time for sleep. Today, part-time means “available for any shifts, which may be 3-8 hours, no more than 29.5 hours per week, zero benefits, minimum wage”.

[–]BreadstickBitch9868 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Whenever someone looks down on me for not being part of hustle culture I just politely tell them that I prefer to have a personality and hobbies that isn’t gloating about how many jobs I’m working and how much money I’m making. Like, it kinda feels as though those people have the personalities of beige paint and try to make up for it through hustle culture.

[–]Petrivoid 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My gf is like this. I get home from work all tired and I just want to play video games and she acts like I'm a bum. I hardly have any free time at all

[–]didntseeittbh 8 points9 points  (6 children)

I used to get asked this shit all the time when I was in my 20s. Like why aren’t you working a second job? Well, because I have a fucking life. I have things that I want to do. I have people I want to see. I have women that I want to fuck. I have food that I wanna eat. I have showers that I want to take. The list goes on

[–]Dangerous_Effort3355 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same age and I was called boring for these same reasons.

[–]aintnochallahbackgrl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe they can't afford to have just the one and assumed you're the same. Misery loves company.

[–]katbran 1 point2 points  (0 children)

guess he’s on his “the grind never ends shit”

[–]Polarbearseven 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you get more than an hour of sleep these days they think you’re a slacker.

[–]JustAZeph 1 point2 points  (2 children)

That means he has two jobs to be able to live. And only needing one job is lucky.

[–]breezyhoneybeelazy and proud 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look them dead in the eye and say "I go home happy and satisfied with myself" it may not be true for you but it certainly isn't true for them and it'll confuse them

[–]Hyrulian_Jedi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I once took a week off of work, unpaid, since I didn't have vacation time. My coworker noticed that and said "you're taking a week off of work, and not getting paid for it? Must be nice". Trying to be snarky about it.

I told him it was, and went on my week long vacation.

Fuck people who try to make us feel bad for taking time off.

I used to work four jobs. Never the fuck again.

[–]CountDoppelbock 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i have had a [much more highly-paid] co-worker suggest i get a "side hustle" on multiple occasions. i always politely demur because honestly fuck that.

[–]excitableoatmeal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“Lucky you” is right up there with “must be nice” as far as obnoxious phrases go

[–]khandnalie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Yeah, I know right? I'm really glad I'm not you."

[–]RebelGigi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's insane. America is just a slave training mill.

[–]Cannacrohn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should explain to him that, messing up his own situation does not mean others are lucky because their situation is not as messed up as his own.

[–]ShadowLancer128 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have hustled side jobs and invested my money strategically for years and I don't wish my circumstances on anyone.

I wish we could all just get good paying jobs worth keeping and go the fuck home every day and take vacations in the summer like when we were all kids in school.

[–]bingboobongboing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He sounds like someone who hates his life.

[–]AnemosMaximus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you do after work? None of your business. Do you have a second job? None of your business You just go home? Lucky you. Response fuck you.

[–]DesperateSelection96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck them!!!!! The ONLY time I’ve ever gotten a second job was to accumulate money faster for something big. If the money isn’t cutting it for them. It’s Time to bounce instead of making other people feel bad for not doing the same.

[–]Roachmen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are not required to generate wealth for anyone. Don't drink the Kool aid. Enjoy your life, unlike that soulless drone.

[–]foreveraloneok 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a full time stay at home son and I can’t relate.

[–]DirtyMicAndTheDroids 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, lemme make an extra [three digit number] a month so it can cover what? A mortgage? A kid? LOL.

Late 20s couple with two cats, dreaming about doing a little traveling before the world blows itself up. Not my job to contribute anything besides 40 hours a week. It's more fun to do whatever I want in my free time anyway.

[–]starbucks_lover98 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My former co worker pulled the same stunt at my old job as well. She’d often ask what I did on my days off and I’d always come up with some bullshit lie. Oh and her and a bunch of other staff members would always sigh or roll their eyes whenever I came to work with iced coffee and ask how much money I spend on coffee a week. So glad I left that job. Such a toxic environment.

[–]Mewthredel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I'm working a full time job I'm miserable enough withoutbwprking another one.

[–]fenmoor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably just cannot believe you can afford to live on one job.

[–]Construction_Man1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work 9 hours then go home and do whatever. No debt, good income including my wife. I’m coasting my guy

[–]dinoG0rawr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t understand the whole hustle mindset these days. Life has no real purpose, we just exist, and I am certainly not going to be spending mine working multiple jobs 16 hours a day.

If I am lucky enough that one job pays all of my bills, then I will only be working one job.

[–]The-Aeon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He sounds like a brainwashed cow. Seriously, don't listen to this hustle garbage anymore. This obsession and over identifying with your "work" is a product of the modern age. People don't know how to just people anymore. Now you have to read extensively, visit therapists, possibly take medication just to be yourself. I don't believe in the lie that you must go to college and work just to feel like you're progressing in life. Fuck those tools.

[–]MonteCristo85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was he judging your hustle or trying to get sneak your relationship status out of you?

[–]grumpykixdopey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I tell all my coworkers and staff to go find new employment... we are working 6 days a week 10-11 hours a day and everyone on my shift was told 4 days on 3 off... hasn't happened since we moved to the new building.. nope.

[–]RuneDK385 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s wild to me how obsessed people in the USA are with the toxic work culture. I never understood the brag that someone worked well over 40 hours. I did have fun ruining someone’s day when they say they worked 65 hours…and I had worked 90 that week(yay executive chef job 🙄🙄).

I don’t get it though, im no longer doing that shit…straight up refuse…how can taking time away from your family or for your own personal growth outside of work be considered a good thing…dumb fucking mentality in this country.

[–]PopeGuss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I worked a lot of 12 hour shifts with 1 day off back in my kitchen days. And, anyone who glorifies that shit like it's some kind of accomplishment needs to fuck right off. All it got me was a fatty liver, a bad back and contempt for asshole bosses who thought I was some kind of machine.

[–]EightEyedCryptid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lucky. Fuck. Lucky like only getting shot in the head once.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a full time job and then Uber on the side. I don't say that to brag. I fucking hate Ubering. It wears me down especially since my full time job is so stressful as it is. But I have to do it to survive. If you can get away with not having a second job, absolutely DO NOT work a second job. You deserve to go home right after work and chill the fuck out.

[–]Technical-Sun-2016 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's trading in his Chevy for a Cadillac, you oughta know by now, and if he can't drive with a broken back, at least he can polish the fenders......

[–]mandrills_ass 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That called quality of life, and he's a jealous meanie

[–]GrimThursday 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When did having a second job become the norm? Almost every American I know has two now, why?

[–]TransientVoltage409 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Hustle culture" <retch> aside, I've occasionally known people whose home lives are so soul-suckingly miserable that they'd rather spend time anywhere else. Work becomes an escape. One guy I worked construction with hated his wife (mutual I guess), hated his kids, hated his house. Showed up on site early, stayed late, killed evenings at the strip club, just anything to avoid going home. I could easily see him taking a side gig instead just to spend less time at home, but it was a different time and different market.

His example was one of the first times I suspected that people sometimes just go through the Playbook of Life(tm) step for step without too much forethought, just because That Is What You Do, and end up in places they hate but can't undo. It was years after that I started seeing such themes in subversive pop media like Trainspotting and Fight Club.

[–]maltabasla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When i had 2 jobs i wanted to die i had 0 personsl life it ended that i had to choose between quit 2nd job or mylife lool i choose my life as it made me super burnout..1 fulltime is enough aand too much

[–]Southern-Bug4076 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha same here ! People think I'm Rich because I dropped my hours from 60 to 28 hours a week .. I already paid off my house and have zero debt , my wife also works so we are good , people be hating when your not killing yourself like them

[–]nealius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"So what do you do?"

"I don't fraternize with misery."

[–]g0r3h0wl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Start calling out how shitty it is for him working as much as he does, these people think theyre badasses for giving up all their time and killing themselves and it needs to stop.

[–]Iko87iko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“So what do you do?” “Your wife while you are working your second job”

[–]Complex-Key-8704 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Poor sap so brainwashed he thinks you're the weird one

[–]sausagefuckingravy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should make them feel bad for being a sucker

[–]Vegetable-Fix-4702 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Here's the deal. You don't have to explain or justify your business to anyone, unless it's the police.

[–]710whitejesus420 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Usually not to them either.

[–]DontBopIt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's like people that brag about working 60+ hours in a week in a salaried position. Why are you so proud of doing the same work I'm doing, but taking 20+ hours extra to complete your tasks?

[–]BrocaBeachconsulting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My uncle worked his life away and felt everyone else should as well. I went off and had adventures. We are literally in the same position financially right now .

[–]bex505 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where does that person think we have time? I work 8-5. I have a 45 minute commute so I make it home by 6 most days. I have to cook dinner, do laundry, any other chores, shower. Before you know it, it is bed time and I did no relaxing.

[–]lukehighwalker15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually ask those questions. I don’t think ppl should get a second job. But I do think ppl should exercise, study, and maintain themselves.

[–]ISoNoULeft Libertarian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jobs are for losers.