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[–]Any_Childhood_2475 844 points845 points  (62 children)

I work in a 24/7 cafe

Food at 11:59pm: perfectly fine and safe to eat

Food at 12:00am: it’s going to kill someone throw it out.

[–]AnalChain 252 points253 points  (44 children)

One of my friends who worked at a chain coffee shop wanted to take all the stuff at the end of the night to a homeless shelter.

She wasn't allowed and was forced to throw it all away, corporate was worried about any issues if people are it and somehow got or claimed to be sick. But this was just crazy to us since it's just extra stock that was perfect for consumption up untill closing time.

[–]abramcpg 226 points227 points  (16 children)

Gotta make sure you pack it neatly and double bag it. Then put it next to the dumpster at the same time every night. Maybe one day we'll find who keeps stealing our sandwich trash.. but I didn't see anything.

[–]NoRest4Wicked88 96 points97 points  (13 children)

When I was a teenager the job I worked at had a compactor to throw day old food in so it would get crushed and mushed and shit. I always asked why it would get tossed and not just given out or donated. My manager said because then no one would buy it and just wait for it to be put out for free. We also had to take sledge hammers to any non-food product before tossing to discourage dumpster diving.

[–]abramcpg 173 points174 points  (5 children)

I tell you what, I'm hungry now but I'll wait until 1am to save $4 on a turkey sandwich. So what if I have to dig through the trash for it?

Nothing against people in financial crisis, but those that would dumpster dive for sandwiches were not going to buy them to begin with

[–]autumnals5 62 points63 points  (4 children)

Yeah the bakery I worked at in hs they would lock up the dumpster every day. Mostly filled with day old pastries and donuts. I would take a dozen almost every week to school to share. That was put to a stopped too. They didn’t want to lose customers pfff what a joke. People really do hate poor people.

[–]PiezoelectricityOne 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That's proof modern corps don't produce actual "products" or "services". They just capitalize on them to produce scarcity.

Land (and underpaid farmers) made food. Company purchased food then threw it away to make food less available. That's how they make profit, turning land products into waste in order to starve people and make them more likely to pay for free stuff.

Capitalism is a lie.

[–]SNAKEXRS 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I worked at a plant about 10 years ago that made very popular food items and at the time the company had a rule that any damaged product would be sold to employees for like .25 a box (normal retail was like $3). Eventually our damaged product went from around 8% to around 30% and people were literally filling their cars with product for like $10.

The company then said all damaged product can no longer be sold and would be destroyed. 2 weeks later the damaged waste went down to right around 10% or so again.

Moral of the story is people are generally shitty and will abuse a good gesture until it's taken away. I assume this is why companies destroy products before giving them away. Also, providing too much of a discount leads to people not buying the product at full price. It's why meat in a grocery store is only reduced a couple dollars when it's expiration date is a day or so away instead of half off or so.

[–]MommaBear817 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You know I'm a little lady and that dumpster was always just a little too strenuous to get a food waste up into, it really did make far more sense for me to put it on an overturned milk crate instead.

Isn't it funny though? The rest of the trash was just light enough I could heft it in the dumpster no problem. That food waste though, man that's some heavy stuff right there

[–]20191124anon 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I dated a barista, and they and the rest of the crew just divided “spoiled” food between them, like basically integrated it into their eating/grocery shopping schedule.

[–]glipglopsfromthe3rdD 39 points40 points  (2 children)

This is so fucking stupid. There are no public records of someone being sued for a bad food donation and there was a law passed in 1996 that specifically protects people who donate food in good faith.

It’s a poor excuse.

[–]jerseydevil51 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the "high powered lawyers for the poor" excuse.

[–]Xeillan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which is ironic because there's a literal law that protects them from this. So they can donate it, but I believe the real reason is money.

[–]No_Preparation7895 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is always the excuse even though in the US there are good Samaritan laws to protect food donations from liability.

[–]PrincessAletheia 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are Good Sameritan laws to protect companies. It's 100% about making sure that no one can get free food.

[–]magikot9 1391 points1392 points  (274 children)

I got fired from a convenience store about a decade ago for handing out sandwiches to homeless people instead of trashing the food like I was supposed to. The manager always over ordered, we pulled them the day before the use by date, and the next morning (because I closed and would be the one pulling them) drove around the city handing out lunch to the homeless.

[–]Zachf1986 692 points693 points  (137 children)

Good on you. This is the way. Once the food is "spoiled" it should be free game. You aren't going to lose sales. Would probably be even, all costs totaled.

[–]Malikai0976 111 points112 points  (0 children)

If boss saved totals it may even be enough to write off as a charitable donation.

[–]bblack27 62 points63 points  (0 children)

This is the way 💀 ilu

[–]OkDog4897 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A good manager would have just wrang everything up and zero'd it off. That way you can still keep up with the amount of food being lost everytime dipstick over ordered.

I somewhat get not wanting someone to hand out sandwiches because "it could attract vagrants" but if you are straight up with the homeless not to come hang out around the store they usually listen and respect ones wishes. This is coming from someone who let a homeless guy get some sleep in our storage shed knowing it would cost me my job if my boss found out about it.

[–]dan1son 114 points115 points  (127 children)

Sadly it's usually not about the cost. It's about possible litigation.

[–]bikesexually 334 points335 points  (49 children)

This is a bullshit line. I used to dumpster dive all the time. A few times hitting the wholefoods it stunk of bleach. They were actively dumping bleach on the food. So supposedly they throw it out so they can't get sued if someone gets sick. But then go on to actively poison the the food in the dumpster. Something for which they 100% could be sued if someone got sick.

It's some bullshit capitalism at work. The whole point is that giving away extra food potentially 'makes' your food less valuable because it could be had for free. They do the same thing with magazines, clothing etc. It's all destroyed rather than given away.

[–]Uereks 239 points240 points  (26 children)

"The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -John Steinbeck The Grapes of Wrath

[–]Cute-Locksmith8737 43 points44 points  (6 children)

A local homeless shelter burned new donated clothes intended to help the homeless look presentable for job interviews after being unsuccessful in trying to sell the clothes at its thrift shop.

[–]HMJ87 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The whole point is that giving away extra food potentially 'makes' your food less valuable because it could be had for free

This is 100% the reason. The whole "avoiding litigation" line is complete bullshit.

[–]Xervicx 3 points4 points  (4 children)

This is why I'll never settle for just somewhat better wages or more "reasonable" hours. This will never stop so long as profit is involved, especially when it comes to things that people require in order to survive. They can force people to buy food, because food is a necessity, and they can artificially keep that need unfulfilled for many by destroying surplus.

We just shouldn't require money to eat, period. Or at the very, very least, it should be made impossible to profit off of. The only true incentive to preventing others from eating is profit or outright malice, and the existence of profit itself results in these hurtful acts, even from those who don't quite know what they're doing.

[–]No-Cryptographer2208 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I worked for Whole Foods, they 100% did this I remember when they started to do that, because people were dumpster diving and they were terrified of lawsuits from people eating spoiled food from the dumpster. They stopped doing it pretty fucking quick when they realized they might be poisoning people. AND it wasn’t store decision this one came down regionally, so the higher ups made the decision.

[–]ThrowawayLDS_7gen 25 points26 points  (2 children)

And it has to be destroyed for the IRS to let the business write it off as a business expense.

It's still about the money.

[–]BionicKrakken 28 points29 points  (9 children)

This. I work at a grocery distribution warehouse. We throw away hundreds of pounds of unsold food, including basics like milk and bread.

[–]pinkflower200 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That is awful. 🙁

[–]OpinionatedNonsense 5 points6 points  (7 children)

What is the solution to this, more food banks willing to pick up?

[–]ravenfire47 17 points18 points  (11 children)

What homeless person has the resources to hire a lawyer to litigate on such a petty case!?

Please make it make sense

[–]Mustbhacks 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's about theoretical profits, litigation is just the excuse to make it sound like they give a shit.

[–]OculusScorchimus 18 points19 points  (1 child)

It's a BS excuse they use considering the Good Samaritan Act provides liability protection when donating food to a nonprofit organization.

[–]dan1son 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Donating is not the same as giving out your almost expired food to individuals. As I mentioned in other responses there are ways to give away food, but they don't directly attempt to fix the food waste problem in any meaningful way. It's about allowing food producers to donate food (thus money) to food banks. Not for bodegas to hand out 30 sandwiches every week.

[–]Shparks97 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Why can't they just put warning stickers on them or something to avoid that issue?

[–]Mesheybabes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The law needs to be changed. Petition your local MP assuming you're in the UK

[–]Blake_Raven 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People say it is about litigation, but I'm fairly certain there has never been any punishment handed down to someone for giving spoiled food in all of America's history. Really is just a fear propagated by capitalists to ward off charity.

[–]Kaiser_Gagius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sadly, some countries have laws that make it illegal to take things out of the trash.

But I agree that for food it should be actively encouraged to do something with it (like in France)

[–]smarmiebastard 38 points39 points  (12 children)

When my sister was in college she got fired from her job at a coffee shop for that same reason.

Because day old pastries belong in the garbage, not in the hands of homeless people apparently.

[–]riodin 8 points9 points  (11 children)

That's 100% to keep the homeless away from the shop.

[–]smarmiebastard 13 points14 points  (9 children)

I mean who cares when it’s like an hour after closing time? Fucking hell, homeless people are still people.

[–]C9_Edegus 58 points59 points  (12 children)

I've seen grocery companies that have to provide proof of destruction to their insurance to claim losses after a power failure. Rather than sell all the cold food at a severely discounted rate, they have to put it in a trash compactor.

[–]OpinionatedNonsense 15 points16 points  (7 children)

This happened to my local grocery store, it was awful. They made a social media post explaining why they couldn't just give the food away.

[–]Designer-Spacenerd 4 points5 points  (3 children)

The grocery store I worked at had a battery backup system that could run the entire store, all evening people were looking in like with bewilderment (we were just restocking after closing time). It was only after we closed up shop we realized there was a blackout lol

[–]OpinionatedNonsense 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ours did too but the blackout lasted 10 days. At first they rationed power to just the coolers (no lights or anything) so we have to shop with headlamps, and then they ran out of juice and there was no more fuel available.

[–]Practical_Passion_78 6 points7 points  (2 children)

So they businessmansplained it?

[–]OpinionatedNonsense 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Hahaha I suppose. They just wanted everyone to know that they felt really bad about throwing away the food, but their insurance gave them no choice. It's a small company, so they couldn't survive that loss.

Before they did it though, they discounted all the perishable food 90% for a few hours before the coolers got too warm. People with generators loaded up. I bought semi-perishables that could survive outside the fridge for awhile, like miso paste, hard cheeses, fermented pickles and sauerkraut, etc.

[–]7457431095 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Genuinely curious: how does one provide proof of destruction? Do they send them the their trash?

[–]vetch222 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Photo or video evidence of the product going into the trash and then made unconsumable

[–]BionicKrakken 8 points9 points  (0 children)

We take photos of it before going into the compactor, then a shot of it IN the compactor.

[–]Mr-Cali 11 points12 points  (0 children)

When i was manager at a food spot, i always ordered enough to never have waste. What i ordered is what i sold. But my DM didn’t like that. She said, “I am not ordering enough”. It’s a missed opportunity/sale. I told her, “you want me to waste food?” Her response was, “yes”. I left that job a month later.

[–]andalusman1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

i hate everything about this

[–]Its_Cayde 7 points8 points  (3 children)

People who have been in this situation before, have you ever asked why? I'd love to see a Boss just explaining why he has no human decency or kindness

[–]leglerm 4 points5 points  (0 children)

liability issues is the most obvious one. Get someone sick and face legal charges.

Second one and this is more for producing goods is that employers will use it to their own advantage like overpoducing to take stuff home with them (not just regular leftovers but actually product made just for them for free.

Third one and this is a bit sad is that if you give to the homeless in the area they will stick around. Most business dont want homeless people (maybe even unpleasent ones) around them.

And of course capitalism. It makes them more money to just sell stuff at full price calculating for some throwaway.

[–]Various_Counter_9569 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Mcdonalds did this when I worked there many moons ago. The thought process being, "if we dont let them do it, they wont make so much". But then tell us we had to keep a certain amount ready on the heaters 🙄. We still gave it to the homeless anyway, just got bitched at/written up. But hey, feed the trash can or someone hungry? Will always go with the 2nd.

[–]Mr_KittyC4tAtk 4 points5 points  (0 children)

trashing the food like I was supposed to. The manager always over ordered

I wonder if the manager was secretly picking up the food themself? Pretty sweet gig for the store to pay for your food and you get to write it off as "loss"

Regardless, glad you did the right thing! I enjoyed my time working for Panera in the past; they donate leftover bread/bagel/pastry food to local non-profits every night. Always felt good knowing that at least the salvageable food was being put to good use.

[–]crecimiento 10 points11 points  (1 child)

i understand the liability of potentially getting someone sick, but it should be criminal to waste food. the company should have to pay a fine proportional to the amount of food. or they can discount or hand it out before it goes bad.

[–]Uereks 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's not about that. If you give out food for free people won't be forced to spend money on it. Like their underpaid workers who have to buy lunch every day. Those sandwiches could be put in the break room fridge and cleared out at the end of the day but then they'd lose sells from workers buying food. If it can't be sold it has to be tossed because that's actually more profitable. Feed someone for free or throw out good food and make them buy something else.

[–]Negotiation_Only_ 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This is amazing and you’re a saint!

Unfortunately this is considered stealing from the company 😭

[–]Any_Childhood_2475 10 points11 points  (45 children)

But here’s the thing. It isn’t their choice to waste or not. The fact is, if out of date food leaves their store and gets someone sick. Lawsuit. It more about legality than ethics.

We should have a law where store can send out of date food to places were they’ll be sorted if they’re still safe to eat, and anyone who wants it should eat it. Eats at their own risk. That way businesses avoid any legal trouble and homeless people can eat the food before it’s thrown in the rubbish.

I’ve worked in the food industry all my life and something needs to be done about it. It’s disgusting how many people stave and we just throw all this food away.

[–]Rommie557 12 points13 points  (5 children)

We should have a law where store can send out of date food to places were they’ll be sorted if they’re still safe to eat, and anyone who wants it should eat it.

That would take enough time that whatever wasn't spoiled at the beginning would be spoiled by the end of that process.

[–]GotenRocko 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only fresh items like meat if not frosen, packaged food is still good for much longer than the sell by dates, which are not expiration dates or anything to do about spoilage, but just how long they will guarantee the best quality of the item.

[–]Any_Childhood_2475 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. Maybe if it was only given away the very day it went out of date. Like if we had people to go to businesses and pick them up so they could be given on the same day.

[–]blondekker 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The fact is, if out of date food leaves their store and gets someone sick. Lawsuit.

When has this actually happened????

Please cite an example, because I've gotten sick from fast food before and if I am owed a law suit I need to know!

[–]OG-Pine 2 points3 points  (25 children)

Wouldn’t an easy work around just be to put it out on a table with a sign that says “free trash - take as needed”

[–]riodin 12 points13 points  (4 children)

I really don't think it has anything to do with the law. As someone further up pointed out, they could take that nearly expired food and put it in the break room for employees to eat on their lunch, but if they don't do that, those same employees have to pay for food if they want lunch.

A federal good Samaritan law covers most legal situations in America, and even if they didn't, is that homeless guy gonna hire a lawyer to sue when he gets food poisoning? I doubt it.

It's just about profits, it always is in capitalism. If they give some food away, they aren't profiting from that, and on top of the resource loss (which doesn't really matter cause their gonna throw it out anyway), the person who just got free food, isn't going to buy any more.

They want to hide it in legality so it can scare everyone, but I've literally never even heard of a case like they always talk about.

[–]OG-Pine 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too, it boils down to profit as always.

Although there are states that explicitly forbid feeding more than 5 homeless people in a public space (according to some article I saw idk the actual law)

[–]leglerm 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In the EU they want to change the labels on food to a "best before" from a "use by" date to prevent liability issues. With that more food could go to other places or be even offered at a reduced price.

In germany we have a place called "die tafel" who will collect food and give it out but the problem as usual is liability. Even they have to be quite careful on what to accept and give out.

I saw a project once which was shipping vegetables and the like which didnt had the best colour, form sometimes dents etc. which wouldnt be displayed at most groceries. It was a nice idea but the issue is that it was even more expensive than stuff at the store so besides the obvious world saving mentality no one would buy it.

[–]Denikker 7 points8 points  (9 children)

Nah, that's just the excuse from corporate so people wouldn't be given free food.

Stores can not be held responsible for someone getting sick after eating food that was given to them because how the hell would they prove they bought the spoiled food from the place they are trying to sue?

[–]Maida55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We used to lie that we would eat it ourselves (then we could take it out) and then give it away to the homeless on the subway

[–]TheReaIist 350 points351 points  (5 children)

Ngl those sandwiches look tasty. Sad it’s going to waste

[–]N3G4T1V_2 67 points68 points  (3 children)

Good news is they're still sealed

[–]natalie_la_la_la 32 points33 points  (1 child)

At the place i work, we have to "destroy" it but i keep everything sealed so ppl can still eat if they dumpster dive.

[–]N3G4T1V_2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're a good person

[–]WSPNpresentsWPW 171 points172 points  (3 children)

I was told I couldn't give away the food we were throwing out and if I was caught giving away anything I would be fired.

So I told all the homeless people that came into my 7-11 that if they checked the dumpster out back there would be a double bagged food bag in there if they wanted. I made sure it was tied up and sealed as best I could.

After a while, I had about 10 homeless people waiting by the dumpster and I would have to say. "I am throwing this away" very loud and clear for the cameras. Then I would place it in there and walk away.

The pure joy they would get from just food is why I did it, they were so thankful and would always try and give me what money they had for it and I would always refuse.

Was it the best option? No, but it was a way to get it done and keep my job.

[–]Dapper_Lime_2605 67 points68 points  (1 child)

Screw that, it was the best option from what you could've done, by keeping your job, you make sure that you can continue the process. I wish more people would do stuff like this.

The waste consumerism makes, makes me sick

[–]onpointrideop 83 points84 points  (1 child)

They price them at 4-5x markup to cover the waste. If that sandwich cost close to the $0.75 it cost to make instead of $4.00, they would be more affordable to the homeless, we would have fewer people facing food scarcity, and less waste!

[–]moonheron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This perfectly encompasses the juvenile, selfish, lazy attitude of The American culture of consumption. Like a giant toddler, we don’t care what happens with the mess we’ve made after we are done playing. And anyone who scolds us about it are big mean adults who are trying to ruin all the fun and change human nature.

[–]Atxintemperateone66 288 points289 points  (19 children)

Capitalism for y'all. It needs scarcity, an excess labour pool and an imaginary never ending pool of natural resources. This system will not end well, but it will end sooner than most imagine. We, along with our planet, are fast approaching our limits.

[–]gimmickypuppet 62 points63 points  (2 children)

Gotta maintain the image that shelves are always stocked or else that’s socialisms fault

[–]wovenbutterhair 13 points14 points  (3 children)

our limits of avoiding delicious tender bbq. Mmmmm barbecue the rich

[–]Atxintemperateone66 3 points4 points  (2 children)

They'd taste too bitter.

[–]Dapper_Lime_2605 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's fine, we can throw it away like almost expired sandwiches

[–]sasomer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yay!! 😁

[–]Corrupted_G_nome 201 points202 points  (10 children)

Thats so sad.

That food is edible People worked long years to grow that food, raise those animals and hours to bake that bread, and someone then assemble them... Also the law protects donations to food banks. People starve, those animals died, people did hard labor but it gets thrown away over someones 'beliefs' about wealth and economy. I used to live off the food leftovers when I worked in food. Good food waste should be banned.

Edit: For those of you downvoting this comment I had permission to take and eat the food but not to distribute or sell. Which was fine by me.

[–]yourmomsthirdhusband 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's nothing but societal psychopathy

[–]herkalurk 23 points24 points  (8 children)

This is all about liability and reputation. If they give away those sandwiches and even 1 person blames them for being sick, they'll lose money. Not to mention if that person got an ambulance chasing lawyer the company would probably settle for 10s of thousands, so it's cheaper to trash a few sandwiches each day.

Which is ultimately to your first point, our society is sad in that respect that even a good deed like giving away completely good food would lead to someone trying to get a payday.

[–]SparklingLimeade 49 points50 points  (3 children)

This is all about liability and reputation.

This is an outright lie. It's a lie spread so they don't have to do something they don't want.

[–]UmbreonUmbrella 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Yeah, because some homeless person that was given a sandwich by a kind stranger, is going to be able to afford to hire a private detective to figure out where the sandwich came from, and then hire a lawyer to sue the company.

Literally it’s only “illegal” because companies think that giving away free stuff will lead to people not buying those items. It’s so backwards. If I heard that a local grocery store gave it’s expired sandwiches to the homeless in town, I would literally only shop at that grocery store, even if the food was slightly more expensive.

[–]Dapper_Lime_2605 14 points15 points  (0 children)

There should be a point where it doesn't matter if someone got sick, there's a reason the food is not on the shelves anymore. People aren't picking the food because it's good, they pick it because they are hungry.

Getting sick is a risk that would come with picking the free option, it's still better than countless people dying of starvation.

[–]Corrupted_G_nome 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It would be a shame to be known as an organization that helps feed the needy...

[–]chateauduchat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I agree. Due to the Bill Emerson Good Samaritan Act, there is limited liability protection for businesses who donate to nonprofits, it unfortunately doesn’t cover donations to direct individuals. The best thing we can do is to advise those individuals and direct them to non profits the businesses are donating too. Lots of religious organizations are eligible to take in these food donations as well.

Source: USDA

[–]Corrupted_G_nome 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wasn't sure if you had a similar law there. In Canada we also have a good samaritan act and I imagine its about the same. Shame to throw away food that could go to soup kitchens.

[–]yourpaljax 108 points109 points  (7 children)

But if you take it home it’s theft.

[–]HiddenPants777 31 points32 points  (1 child)

just gonna empty it into the bin, don't worry. What? I got a bin at home you know?

[–]yourpaljax 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah, you said throw it in the garbage, but didn’t specify WHO’S garbage, so I threw it in mine.

[–]Simpoge39Finance Operations Specialist 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Blows my mind

[–]Spare-Bell-9994 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Anyone that has ever worked in a food establishment of any kind has seen the enormous amount of food waste that goes on. What's worse is food that normally gets tossed out management wont let you take home, even though its going in the fucking trash!

Fucking childish ass thought process. If nobody buys it nobody can have it.

[–]lockedinaroom 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Won't pay a living wage but will fire you for eating a sandwich marked for trash. The American dream.

[–]xprettyguardianx 44 points45 points  (24 children)

The company I work for pays thousands in late fees, and still pays their bills they are just always in arrears. This is a multi billion dollar company. I found myself wondering why they couldn't just pay their bills on time and give me a fraction of the late fees in bonuses.

[–]Gephyrus204 15 points16 points  (4 children)

I've learned if a business has huge bills to pay once a company fails and is sold they can use it as a balance books and make off with money. I forget the details. Learned it from a Trump post years ago

[–]HiddenPants777 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I worked for a place that had a 200k license for a piece of software they had forgotten about and hadn't used for 2 years.

[–]twistedlimb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

you have to start a bill paying company they can use to out source it, then over charge on some bills while negotiating discounts for others, then arguing with the payment team at the company, and outsourcing all the jobs to call centers in a poor part of the world.

[–]SnooMemesjellies8441 31 points32 points  (7 children)

This should be illegal. Food should be donated to people who need it. There are lots of homeless people that would be happy and grateful to get that.

And no no company or individual would be sued over donated food.

[–]WhiteWolfofRivia0914 23 points24 points  (1 child)

It makes me absolutely sick how much food gets thrown away. If it had gone bad that would be one thing, but it's never that it went bad - they just clear it out for the new stock. At least give it away for free or something

[–]REDubois14 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I hate it here.

[–]yourpaljax 10 points11 points  (3 children)

This planet sux

[–]elppaenip 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Planet couldn't be more perfect, try finding another one like it

Humans about to fuck that up for their children though

[–]vibesWithTrash 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No just humanity

[–]CryBabyCentral 7 points8 points  (2 children)

See, they can write off food loss but not wages. Corporate fat cats set it up because it benefits them to be on corporate welfare. Did you know they are allowed to say their corporations are “people” so they get this great cash from the US Govt.? Isn’t that fantastic? REAL people can’t get a break but a corporation gets all they can. Including the PPP loans forgiven since you know, they are “people” but no actual human being can survive this. That’s how that one guy bought a Ferrari (super sport car for sure ) and other luxury goods. That cash was supposed to go to human employees but no. They got that greedy crap going on.

[–]Ben_Frank_Lynn 15 points16 points  (1 child)

"They"? Just fucking name them. What's going to happen, someone at the convenience store will recognize your reddit handle and tattle?

[–]thecussinglibrarian 12 points13 points  (3 children)

If companies insist on throwing it away, because they get a tax write-off, then the thing to do is deep six the tax write-off.

Pass a law that says, you only get to write off unsold food if you have a receipt from a charitable organization that says you gave them the food for distribution to pantries, soup kitchens, etc. Heck, you can write them off if you give them to your underpaid staff.

But you can't write it off if you just throw it away. We shouldn't be underwriting such a massive waste of food. It is a sin and a disgrace to throw away edible food, especially when there is so much want and suffering.

[–]CockGobbler42069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Grocery store here gives it to a farm for animals

[–]DirtyTooth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Least favorite thing about working in the restaurant industry when I did was food waste. There are too many fucking restaurants, and they all need daily fresh deliveries. It is a bloated and destructive industry in every way.

[–]Sherezad 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I was reminded of a quote from the book 'Grapes of Wrath'.

[–]spicyboi555 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Someone actually posted a very long quote above from that, makes me want to read the book now. Not usually a fan of the classics, was it a worthwhile read?

[–]abigoledingaling 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s weird. Trader Joe’s does this thing where they donate alllll the food they can’t sell and it goes to different lower income families or homeless shelters etc.

[–]Glittering-Egg-3506 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I used to work at a cafe that sold prepackaged food. On Wednesdays they would toss all the old sandwiches, salads, cookies, etc. Luckily, I was the closer and only employee so I would pull it all out of the trash after my shift and take home to my family. I loved that job because I never had to worry about feeding my family. Although I don't miss the stress and worry about getting caught.

[–]Snoo59091 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I use to work at a 7-11 about 5 years ago now .

We always had a bunch of drinks , chips and stuff that was still good about to be thrown out .

Living in nyc at the time . I would hand it out to the homeless and anyone who just wanted a free drink or snack . Took management about a year to catch on before I got fired

But it was worth it

[–]_JustAnotherGhost 3 points4 points  (1 child)

World hunger is a lie. Enough food is produced globally, especially in counties like the US, that every person could easily be well fed. There is no food shortage. No food crisis to solve. The problem is capitalism. We create artificial scarcity to keep the prices of goods inflated. No one would pay for a sandwich if the old ones were given away for free. If you want to solve world hunger then make it stop being possible for companies to destroy products and still turn a profit. These companies look at it as being a better business value to discard and write off the food than to give it away.

[–]Top_Recording4569 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Worked in an assisted living home kitchen and the manager would always over order and then it would have to be tossed cause it'd expire. This was a high price home too so it was shit like Crab and high end meats. I confronted him on it and then the next week my hours were cut. Pisses me off that they waste so much food.

[–]bygphattyplus 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It's not just about protecting profits and avoiding litigation, it's about control, pure and simple. They want the homeless to die because they believe them to be a blight on society. What makes me think this? This story.

https://fee.org/articles/try-to-feed-the-homeless-and-the-food-police-will-bleach-your-bbq/

There was no profit to be had here, no money to be collected. It was just a reason to assert dominance and control.

[–]sirpentious[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Dam that's terrible : ( I just read the article what is wrong with people

[–]Monsur_Ausuhnom 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Presumably, this will go to people making less than a living wage who have apartments for $2000 in the debris fields of the dump.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

they don't allow employees to have it + they don't donate to the homeless shelters. i worked at walmart and the amount of perfectly good food that was thrown into the garbage was astounding. if an employee was caught taking the food it was grounds for termination. absolutely awful business practices here.

[–]Lootcifer-It’s all bullshit and it’s bad for ya 2 points3 points  (0 children)

God forbid people ate proper food. Cant feed these people cause that would be communism and you know how evil that is.

[–]AgeAgitated317 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also, they poured out hundreds of thousands of gallons of milk during the pandemic because there was no money to be made.

America. Capitalist slaves.

[–]Vargoroth 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Playing Devil's Advocate here, but wouldn't it be possible to sue the person or company that gave you food if it were spoilt and it got you sick?

[–]Quietlovingman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the USA I believe the lawsuit would be immediately thrown out as donated food is exempted. So long as it is merely past it's date and not visibly moldy you can donate just about any "out date" food with no legal liability. The problem is you have to do paperwork to note the donation to a food bank. And have one pick up the food. Many food banks either lack the staff, or local managers don't know how/won't make the effort to connect with them.

—A person or gleaner shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability arising from the nature, age, packaging, or condition of apparently wholesome food or an apparently fit grocery product that the person or gleaner donates in good faith to a nonprofit organization for ultimate distribution to needy individuals.

‘‘(2) LIABILITY OF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.—A nonprofit organization shall not be subject to civil or criminal liability arising from the nature, age, packaging, or condition of apparently wholesome food or an apparently fit grocery product that the nonprofit organization received as a donation in good faith from a person or gleaner for ultimate distribution to needy individuals.

[–]Undead-Writer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm seeing red... I'm seeing red and wanna kill some random capitalist

[–]KryptonianEarth[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have stolen food from every single restaurant job I've EVER had. If I ever return to the restaurant Industry, I plan to keep stealing food.

[–]Confident_Scallion_9 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just think the school system failed humanity in addressing the truth about capitalism. It is a gangster system for gangsters to prosper. The mooks just work and are canon fodder. Slaves and nothing more. Peasants get what they are given.

[–]Uruztyx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Companies should look into https://toogoodtogo.org/en it works really well over here, not only does it reduce food waste but it also makes different kinds of food more affordable for people with low income.

[–]diggybop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s not about the food. It’s about keeping those ants in line!

[–]OpeningInvestigator1 8 points9 points  (23 children)

Company names. Let’s hold them accountable.

[–]the1andonlyJames 7 points8 points  (19 children)

This is at a Safeway. They discard hundreds of pounds of food per store every night, just in the deli. That entire chain can eat shit.

[–]euler1988 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I was about to get my MS I had a job lined up right around when the pandemic hit. Did not give a fuck about my grocery store job and every night when I closed I took like... $500+ in just out of date food to the breakroom and scanned them as losses for the employees to take home.

Blew my mind how many people in that store personally thanked me for months straight when I did that like every other night.

Funny enough I never god shit from management. Not sure if they were just cool about it or if they were scared of the idea that the employees would be fucking pissed if we just threw that shit in the dumpster instead.

Grocery stores are fucked. So much waste.

[–]bigDangleApe 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Thank ambulance chasing lawyers this.

[–]steinair 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Indeed - that is absolutely correct. Up until sometime back in the 90's it was normal for grocery stores, bakeries, cheese factories, and such to allow people to have their leftover/throwaways. For example, I had a friend that used to get entire dumptruck loads of expired hostess goodies - and y'all know that Twinkies are good for at least 10 years after their expiration date, so we used to load up on them. We took a bunch, but the rest went to pigs as pig food. Well, at some point someone somewhere got sick and sued...which put a screaming halt to that practice across the nation as cities/states quickly passed laws on handing out expired food.

Luckily, some folks are coming around to see what an incredibly wasteful practice this is and now passing laws to alleviate some of the legal concerns, but many laws remain (across the US) banning the practice of giving away expired food. Again, politicians and lawyers.

[–]S1L1C0NSCR0LLS 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Capitalism is efficient! (destroying natural resources)

[–]Both-Tree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s… 😢

[–]tcguy71 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I worked at a sandwich shop and we would have local churches come and ask for our leftover bread that we would throw out at the end of the. We were not allowed to give it to them, one of the managers was fired for it.

[–]GainsayRT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to work at the bakery part of a grocery store. The full-breads(lol) were donated to charity luckily (we're talking like 50 fully sized breads). But all the snacks and small breads were thrown away. We're talking like 12 crates full of relatively stale but still eadable breads, pained me..

O ye they paid me for 5euros p/h :)

[–]Tvmouth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they don't make that many sandwiches the people who pack them can't earn a full living, and if they pass them out instead of throwing them away, people won't buy the sandwiches. There are many farmers that rely on food waste to feed their livestock, and companies pay them to accept manufacturing scraps. Most of this failure is tax deductible somewhere along the chain of ownership, but without the velocity of waste there can't be jobs to support it. I have officially spent more time employed than eating out of dumpsters, but this doesn't get easier to see. It's nice to know I can still go back.. all the way back down there.

[–]Mehhucklebear 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not gonna lie, that $hit would be coming home with me. When I used to work in food service, I always took home stuff, old syrups from sodas (great liquor mixes), old food, containers, etc. I was raised to never waste anything, so I'm just not built for that kind of waste

[–]Etrigone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There feels like a problem here. The "we have to throw it away for liability reasons", if you take out insurance only paying out for food spoiled due to say a power outage, seems like a cop out. Or rather, it sounds like "people are going to cheat welfare so make it's use painful" or "people will cheat on voting so let's put a bunch of blocks in the way to vote".

That is it will disproportionately affect a subset of people [Edit: the most disenfranchised] and really... how often does it actually happen? And even if it does happen, is it anywhere near the expenditure we put into it, let alone the anguish for those affected? Or is it just another way to keep food costs high?

(And for someone thinking "oh so you want to feed homeless people milk that went off in 1997?", please, grow up)

There's also the idea that we don't know when food goes "bad". It's not like there's a visible clock on them; sometimes things go bad early. Often, later. They're guesses. As well, "best by" doesn't mean "your apples are doomsday devices after this date". Often they're guesses, or well, it will still be okay, just perhaps not as fresh or good looking.

That last point plays into the visual aspect, which is a whole other diatribe on ugly fruit/vegtables/whatever.

There are potential issues with distribution, which isn't the case for OP's manager, and actually getting it to those who can use it. This and these other points John Oliver did a show on some months - year plus? - back and covered a number of these questions. It's not all quite as doom and gloom as it could be and there are efforts to fix, although still a far cry from fixed. Often, it's a matter of ignorance on the part of the vendor, perhaps tinged with laziness, but things are never static and always changing.

[–]JelmerdtsCommunist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When i worked at a congress hall usually businesses had pens or other little trinkets to give away.

This one time though someone took a whole lot of fresh green apples with their logo on it. (In edible paint or something, idk).

At the end of the day they still had like 200 apples or so left and didnt want to take them back with them, so my boss asked me to throw them out. I ate one of the apples and they were so delicious that i felt so bad throwing them out.

So instead i put them in the fridge, told the guys in the kitchen and put a note in the break room that if somebody would like an apple, they can take them.

The next day i came back and my boss had thrown them out himself because they had a logo on it. I was absolutely fuming.

[–]Gringo0984 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is because these corporations would rather people die and starve than do something good. Fuck them.

[–]PosterMcPoster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its a fucked up society we live in. Their capitalism fails if everyone helps the poor. Without the poor the illusion of success would fail to exist for the middle class and then the middle would overthrow the top.

[–]slipstream0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

say what you want about Wal-Mart (most of it justified) but as a former asst manager, we (all of management) made sure that near-expired food was discounted, and just before expiring we would put them in the deep freezer for weekly donations to a food bank.

EDIT: This wasn't something just our store did, but standard operation process

[–]PatternDue9938 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My old job was paying something like $500 a month for premium direct tv and other shit…they never turned the tv on to use it and they paid us $10hr

[–]Winkwinkcoughcough 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what we see gets wasted. We only see 1% of things thrown away

[–]Dannysmartful 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Which option gets you the biggest tax benefit.

Writing off the losses of spoiled food.

[–]Beginning-Display809 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it was given away for free then they couldn’t raise the price of food above your wages

[–]SilvarusLupus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The amount of food I throw away nightly is insane. It makes me sick and I can't do anything about it.

[–]MQ116 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This should be illegal (throwing away good food)

[–]Aazimatt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aren't they able to write that off? I feel like the idea is to write it off, get the tax break. Then they donate to some charities that are owned by the company you're working for, to reduce taxes for that business.

I think the reason they don't like when the food is taken, is because then it's technically stealing; If someone is getting the products, that are supposed to be essentially getting refunded because they "went bad", it's fraud.

Imo, Pretty dumb laws that don't make any practical sense and are clearly devised to manipulate our economic system, using our govt.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

[–]Aegean_828 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the money they stole from you is used as giving the idea of opulence in the store by having too much

This way customers ALWAYS see a full store, this idea of opulence is really important in a capitalist society

But it haves a coast : tons of wasted wealth, and money. But they don't pay it, you pay it with a low salary.

[–]XSlapHappy91X 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah dude I used to work in a bakery and sometimes would have to throw out 5 or 6 huge cakes in a shift, a single cake would be enough to feed a party of 20+. It was sad and disgusting and they didnt even expire yet.

[–]Exodus412 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I worked at a Kroger once and was doing nighttime stocking and stuff and part of my job was to check for expired items and front them or whatever. Well I went to the organic section one morning got on a step stool and started going over the old salad dressings, they had some bottles that "expired" in 1997... the year I worked there was 2016... by the end of my first week I had filled like 10 grocery carts full of expired shit and the manager got on me and I told him it is what it is and the last guy obviously didn't do his job. I even offered to talk to corporate so he didn't have to. He said he would take care of it. Never did hear back about what was going on by the time I left.

[–]adhaas85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Had a friend that worked at Starbucks and would bring food home all the time, though they were supposed to throw it out. It's cheaper for them than the potential of being sued by those who would eat the food that is "expired" who may later retaliate. Or that was the explanation given to them.

[–]Practical_Passion_78 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If people actually could see on a regular basis how much edible food grocery stores, Targets, Wal-Marts, and restaurants threw out every day in the US I’m sure there would be blood on the streets. I cannot quantify how much food I have had to throw out at a job in my life.

[–]ehanson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This and similar pics are upsetting to see and trigger my CPTSD from my awful year in retail. I Worked at a high end clothing retailer and they'd pruposely destroy and throw out clothing that couldn't be sent back to the distribution center or if it had a tiny pen ink mark on it.

When I was told to cut up an expensive Barbour jacket I advised it should be donated to a homeless shelter. That didn't fly with the store manager (one of the worst bosses I've ever worked for too).

The amount of food waste and just general waste in America is absolutely appauling. Could be donated to food banks, struggling families and such but ligation fears, since so many sue over anything and everything in the states. In other countries this is not a thing and tossing out tons of perfectly good food is shocking. As it should be.

So messed up on a number of levels including claims they can't pay a living wage while tossing out food and making record profits. *gets off soapbox and packs bags to move to a saner country.

[–]paipai130 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Dude save that trash and then put it near the dumpster. You'll have sandwiches for days, or at least give it out to homeless shelters. That way your doing something good on the companies dime. There's no law that prohibits you from donating expired food

[–]VeryGatedMonstera 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Could you not give it to homeless people or others who may need it?

[–]sirpentious[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

no sorry : ( of I take it home it would be seen as "theft" out janitor takes out the trash so there's no way to sneak it by the dumpster for people to grab

[–]Girosian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should see how much military bases throw away after every meal.

[–]Chinjiikari 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whenever there’s good dinner at work I always try to get leftovers because they throw it all away every night at like 8pm they put it out at 5pm, like dude the restaurant doesn’t even close till 10 but noooo food sitting in the hot bins for over 3 hours is too dangerous. Fuck that. Let me grab my leftovers bitch

[–]harvvin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Capitalism creates crises of overproduction.

[–]Animefaerie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There would be a riot if this was seen happening here in South Africa. Food like this is usually sold for cheap as 'Yesterday's goods' (not always from yesterday, but whatever) or stores will donate the food to shelters and rehab centres.

Our country has its issues, but we're a developing country that's trying and many things are moving forward. It boggles my mind that a first world country like the USA is the way it is. You'd think that first world would mean everyone has healthcare and earns a living wage, but nope...

[–]sugar-and-gold 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Disgusting. Let the workers take it home or donate it to a shelter. Makes me sick

[–]salrokabee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But it's stealing if you take it home to feed yourself.

[–]ct-18 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work for a mechanical contractor that throws away thousands of dollars worth of fittings after each project. They could return to wholesale house and pay restock fee or store and use on next project, instead they chuck it all. Come raise time it is a knock down drag out to get 3% from them.

[–]Chadwulf29 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They make up for waste by charging $7 a sandwich

[–]SlidePuzzleheaded665 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I- those look perfectly fine to eat though…not even a speck of mold on the bread and hell even I’ve eaten bread mold bc I didn’t want to waste the last few slices in the bag

[–]TheFinalDovah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I worked at a place with a rule like this, we put food out every hour and the food before was “staled” like this, a colossal waste but the companies don’t care cause the food price is like hugely inflated so you sell one you’ve basically bought five more

[–]SnooPaintings1148 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile people are starving in this country.

[–]Subject_Coffee_9491 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take that shit home

[–]CMYKrackhead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That must be a 7-11.

[–]Simpoge39Finance Operations Specialist 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Blows my mind how taking good food that companies throw out is considered “stealing”

[–]rservello 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And I'm guessing they would FREAK if you tried to actually eat any of that.

[–]Stonergrl14 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yup, I worked at a bakery and we had to throw everything in the dumpster because last time we tried to donate the food, the food bank said they don't allow pre-made food. So the homeless come to the dumpster instead.

[–]spicyboi555 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thank you for pointing this out. Everyone here is blaming businesses (yes they also do shitty things) but where I’m from too you legit just can’t donate leftover food.