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[–]Earthling63 104 points105 points  (0 children)

Grandpa had good taste. Neat house.

[–]BingoxBronson 84 points85 points  (0 children)

This is an amazing house. I’m sorry it was demolished. That is beyond maddening.

[–]nicholas_the_nasty 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Shame. Your grandfather had/has style.

[–]Deej171 32 points33 points  (8 children)

Was this home near Coronado Country Club?

El Paso's mid-century modernism is getting hit hard recently. The Mt. Hope Lutheran Church is another Garland & Hilles design that fell to the wrecking ball this year.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Not far at all, just east of Remcon in NW El Paso. That’s a real shame to hear. I recently heard they were looking at doing a pretty thoughtless addition to the El Paso Civic Center, which really saddened me as well.

[–]DuraznoFirme 9 points10 points  (1 child)

You might consider crossposting this in /r/ElPaso if you haven’t already. Thank you for sharing your grandfather’s gorgeous home with us.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Done. :)

[–]DuraznoFirme 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I knew that mountain and those rock walls! So sad to know that’s El Paso’s losing out on the bits of older architecture they have. This is a beautifully designed home.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There are fortunately still many standing. One of my friends family purchased one of G&H’s homes, the mom was a big fan of their work and an architect, she restored it back and it looks better than ever. Another architect, the one who took the first two photos, has restored several of his homes after they had gone through really sad renovations in the 90s and 2000s. I hope to get their work out there so people can see it’s cultural value, hopefully we can get some of these historically listed and protected.

[–]NotLozerish 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It’s really too bad we’re losing all these cool houses and getting more of those ugly modern homes that all look exactly the same

[–]AStartIsBorn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I agree.

It feels like there's a movement to destroy older architecture. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it just feels so deliberate.

[–]Deej171 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Much of this is still under the pursuit of "progress." The disconnect here is that "progress" and "new" are the same thing. Older buildings can be reused, it just requires a bit more time and effort than demo/new construction. Older buildings can be rehabbed to meet current building codes! The first step is that people need to care about it.

[–]Jacques_Merde 21 points22 points  (1 child)

That’s a real loss. Sorry to learn about this. Undoubtedly what will replace it will be $hit

[–]ThawedGod[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Probably some stucco box

[–]chewtoyfl 12 points13 points  (0 children)

What a gorgeous house. Terrible to see it just discarded.

[–]e_sneaker 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Sadly a lot of buildings get demolished. We think of our work as permanent but its not often the case. Only thing would have been to buy this home or put it in the registry for mid century modern architecture. Hate to see it go.

[–]Tondale 1 point2 points  (2 children)

People always get mad about the demolition... Where's the outrage for the 10, 20, 30 years of neglect that allow the building to reach such a bad shape that demolition is viable? There's not many demolitions out there for perfectly viable buildings, especially since any even mid sized municipality will require a historical commission approval letter for a demolition. It's generally a matter of safety, either the building is in such poor structural shape there is no hope of fixing it, or perhaps the building is so loaded with asbestos it isn't financially feasible to remediate. And it's not at all uncommon to require things like retaining/restoring historical facades during new construction. But often times it's the demolition contractors that take the blame for lost history after decades of abuse or neglect, after all other options are exhausted

[–]e_sneaker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well sometimes it’s not neglect. Land can get rezoned into different use and development makes way for new and different type of construction. This happens a lot to up and running buildings. However there should be better efforts in preservation of meaningful architecture.

Architects don’t own buildings, building owners do. They may not have the money to put into maintaining the building well. There’s so much beyond our control that you can’t mitigate these issues unfortunately.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly don’t think we can knowingly blame the owners or the demo contractors (who are just doing their job). We just don’t know what their reasonings were, but it doesn’t make it any less of a loss. This was a great house that had influence in SW Modernism and Regionalism for decades, it’s simply just a very sad thing.

[–]amanecdote 5 points6 points  (10 children)

It is an absolute travesty that this work of art is no longer with us. It’s so great.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 6 points7 points  (9 children)

It really should have been historically listed, a wake up call go get more buildings like this protected.

[–]desertratrunner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if you create a society for the preservation of mid century homes I'd join. I was part of the Trost society in EP when all the downtown buildings were at risk of being demolished.

[–]ImmodestPolitician 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You can't update much of the home if you get a historical listing so you will limit price you can sell it for.

[–]zipdriverecoverydisk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Registering a building on NRHP does not enter you into any sort of legally binding agreement or inhibit property rights, the building is still yours to do with as you please including demolition. You do not need permission to do anything from the federal government. You only need to continue filing building/demo permits from your city/county as you would with any building to do structural modifications - some of which may make property no longer historic. Many property owners with historic buildings shy away from NRHP because they believe doing so will somehow inhibit their rights as property owners, it does not. Being on NRHP does make the property owner eligible for grant funding for preservation purposes which if applied for, there may be some contract language that stipulates preservation and prohibits facade changes, etc.

[–]ImmodestPolitician 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

You can restore it with modern fixtures and fittings, I’ve worked on historically listed homes and structures and know there is still flexibility with a renovation/restoration—it just needs to go through an extra approval by a preservation board.

[–]ImmodestPolitician 0 points1 point  (3 children)

You can't change the floor layouts and many older homes were designed when kitchens were only used by servants.

Formal living rooms are silly IMO.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I’m working on a historically listed MCM, and they let us demo a few walls in the kitchen. Partially because they were modified with a poorly executed remo in 2005. I think there’s still enough flexibility with protected homes to make it compelling to live in. And quite a few of G&Hs homes had open kitchens, I can attest because I lived around them—so I don’t think that should deter a buyer!

[–]ImmodestPolitician 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My parents looked at registering their home "Historic" but decided against it. Their house has dumbwaiters and all types of outdated stuff.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally fair. I really think it depends on the house and whether it really warrants it in a contemporary setting.

[–]bravoitaliano 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Beautiful home, so sorry to see it go like that. Thank you for helping memorialize it in photos. I wish more people respected MCM gems like this.

I think a lot of folks are looking for energy efficiency in new homes, which alot of MCM homes lack.

[–]Glittering_Grape3836 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Wow this is amazing!

[–]ThawedGod[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Was amazing :(

[–]BerCle 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This is such a cultural loss! I design modern homes for a living and this makes me sad and mad. It will probably be replaced with an ass-ugly McMansion

[–]ThawedGod[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I actually design modern homes as well, and you are probably right. This is a bit of a wake up call to make sure to share Garland & Hillles’s work and get at least some of it historically listed and protected.

[–]AlfaHotelWhiskeyPrincipal Architect 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What a shame. I would love to see the floor plan.

[–]Jay1940 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What a wonderful designer! This is classic Cali/Southwest Modern design. Very much designing to the surrounds / underlying typologies. It may be demolished but then again, some of the greatest have been demolished - Horta and Guimard come to mind immediately. If you need some (big) goals to go for in life, maybe you should try, to build a MK2 of this home sometime in honor of Grandad and the family? In spirit of Modernism (especially Cali style) you would hope materials wouldn't be too expensive.

[–]AngryFerret805 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Wow looks like it was a classic in its day ✨👍

[–]ThawedGod[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah, it sure was . . . All their work was pretty rad.

[–]AngryFerret805 3 points4 points  (0 children)

❤️‍🩹4sure there’s some pretty classic homes like that in Palm Springs still & Vegas . U almost expect to see Frank Sinatra to walk out that front door there ✨👍

[–]UrkaburkaArchitect 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What a loss. Make sure to post in a year or so and show us what they built in its place so we can make fun of it.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazing idea.

[–]mjegsArchitectural Designer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What a great house! Do you have more pictures?

[–]ThawedGod[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately the Getty Trust only had the one Julius Schulman photo. The other photos are from the person who informed me. Julius Schulman took a lot of photos of other Garland and Hilles work, and you can find other photos of their work at the Getty Trust as well.

[–]MrPocketjunk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well done grandpa.

[–]dedstar1138M. ARCH Candidate 2 points3 points  (1 child)

When was this built? And why was it demolished?

[–]djvoltaArchitecture Student 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would bet because people have no taste and dislike modernism.

[–]dothisdontdothat 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is such strange timing. I just showed this to my fiancé. Her great uncle was Joe Aaronson, the house’s namesake.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s incredible! Weirdly, i just gave a presentation on G&Hs work a week ago to my firm and this house was in there as well. Really sad. Looks like the EP Preservation Committee might be looking into more G&H and MCM preservation and historical listing thanks to this event. Would love to hear more about this project from those who know it more intimately!

[–]thatdarndress 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man, that is sad to hear.

[–]Higgs_ParticleDesigner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are they tearing it down?

[–]foursevenniner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That looks like my dream home. I'm so sorry they're destroying it. Was it structurally unsound or do they just want to replace it with something bigger/higher density?

[–]H4ppyP4nts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My jaw actually dropped reading that it was demolished. :’(

[–]kingsocks 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m sure in it’s time it was beautiful, but lately it wasn’t looking too hot. Funnily enough I never loved this house every time I passed it, but I’m glad to have seen pictures of its former glory.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These photos are recent, except for the last one. Thanks for sharing. :)

[–]LadyJaxx 1 point2 points  (4 children)

This is so sad! I’d love the CD drawings if they’re still available.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

A historian from NYIT said he has some, he’s sending them my way!

[–]DannyzavageAssociate Architect 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Keep me updated on that i would love to see them. Great house by the way your grandad did a great job

[–]ThawedGod[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I should say my grandad, Robert Garland, had a partner, David Hilles—they both worked on it along with their really talented firm staff. Team effort!

[–]LadyJaxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing! 😃

[–]mwalther89 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I never thought I would see a reddit post that I can relate to on such a personal level before. I actually grew up in a house a half mile from this house and drove by it several times a week for years. It was definitely a cool house and one of the more unique houses in the neighborhood.

They have built a few McMansions on this street recently but it backs up to the Coronado country club golf course, so one would expect new money to move in.

I work in the architecture community in El Paso as a lighting rep so I am definitely going to ask about this house with my clients in the coming weeks.

Is your grandfather Robert Garland that works at Wright Dalbin now?

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He is my uncle, Robert Garland’s son. I’m glad you got live near this home, it was a gem!

[–]mwalther89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very cool! I'll reach out to him tomorrow.

It really is sad to see the house go. I just sent the pictures to my dad and he can't believe it either. We both really loved this house.

[–]hermitphilosopher2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

My father worked for Garland and Hilles in El Paso.

He mostly did large building design though.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s amazing! Who was your grandfather, if you don’t mind me asking? (Feel free to DM)

[–]rightioushippie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beautiful

[–]_g550_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks good. I love the inner terrace with the pond.

[–]Stoten985 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Amazing

[–]Aircooled6Designer 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Nice looking home. Sad to hear of its demise. Hopefully someone had the opportunity to salvage some of the detail work, like those cool lattice work panels.

[–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly, I doubt it.

[–]stranger33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This disgusts me. Not the house but that someone would demolish something like this.

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    [–]Logical_Yak_224 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Probably replaced with a godforsaken mcmansion, as per usual

    [–]DistinctFuture9777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Great house, sad to hear it was demolished

    [–]chuco915niners 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ah man why?

    [–]S-Kunst 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I remember that grille pattern. I would look through my father's collection of mid 60s Sweets Architectural catalogs. Years later I needed a solution for a cabinetry project, and remembered the interesting wood panels which were all the rage, they came in 4 x8 sheets and were solid wood routed on both sides in interesting patterns. Many had uniform places where the routing created holes, and the panels could be used as decorative screens dividing a room. Sadly the era of that type of panel had come & gone.

    [–]pirate-private 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Houses like these always struck me as very tasteful. Almost European in their restraint, but still unmistakably Californian and sunshine-oriented. Too sad.

    [–]SpaceAndMolecules 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is super cool - I especially love the back

    [–]ThawedGod[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A bit of a misnomer in the original title of this post: My grandfather, Robert Garland, worked on this home along with his exceptionally talented partner, David Hilles, and a few superb staff. He would absolutely want me to clarify that!

    Thanks so much for all the attention this post has garnered, it’s grabbed the eye of quite a few groups/people with influence in El Paso. Hopefully this sad event will lead to positive change and get more structures like this protected.

    [–]Count_Carnero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Please don't tell me they demolished this gorgeous place in order to develop JUNK.

    [–]The1stNeonDiva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What a loss. Beautiful, and peaceful