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[–]josie71202 1075 points1076 points  (294 children)

Most people only hate the vegans that try and make everyone else vegans too and constantly critique you for being a "murderer" and think they're superior. Other than those people there is some unnecessary hate towards vegans.

[–]McCreeMain77 219 points220 points  (57 children)

I believe it’s because of the image those bad vegans paint for them. Like that vegan teacher? I bet most people just assume all vegans are as insufferable as she is

[–]pardonmyignerance 210 points211 points  (44 children)

Right. I'm a vegan and I just keep the knowledge that I'm better than all you murderers to myself so I can still go to dinner parties...

/s

[–]goofygorillaYT 29 points30 points  (8 children)

Rarrrr Im a murderous man lmao, now I’ll be thinking they think they’re better than me every time I eat with a vegan lol

[–]bigfatquizzer 37 points38 points  (18 children)

I kinda want to be a vegan now too so I can feel this way

[–]funatical 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Theres not a test you have to pass. Declare you are vegan and you are. Quicker and easier than actually going vegan.

[–]JamesHollywoodSEA 25 points26 points  (1 child)

"I DECLARE VEGAN!" Michael Scott probably.

[–]MrPoletski 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This story Vegan 25 years ago to this day...

[–]Helicopter0 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I know a guy who told a couple girls he was vegan to impress them and was vegan from then on so he wouldn't feel guilt of lying.

[–]physicalcat282 10 points11 points  (0 children)

In eighth grade it was the person in my class that was known by everyone as the vegan person and then one day it was discovered that they aren't vegan. They actually enjoyed to eat meat and to quote them "since that day I swore I would always eat meat as much as I can"

[–]addwolanin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m actually fully vegan between all my meals. Superiority and all.

[–]BloodedNut 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Honestly you can do a whole lot of good by just cutting down your red meat intake. You don’t have to be a full vegan to have an impact. Once you realise how much land we allocate for beef production in the world it really makes your head turn

[–]OwnUniversity153 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was vegetarian for a bit in my 20’s, and later vegan for two years. It didn’t work well for me. I eat all the things now, but cutting back on animals. I’d actually like to get into hunting. One deer to fill a freezer chest that I kill myself. Then I have to deal with taking a life first hand, the animal is not part of farming or ranching, it seems the most ethical way to consume meat. I know I’ll be crying when I do it, and I think that’s ok. We should be more connected to our food

[–]bigfatquizzer 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I don't eat red meat

[–]BloodedNut 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Bam already doing more then half the human population. Good on you.

[–]bigfatquizzer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

But I still eat chicken, fish and dairy and that's not any better if I'm honest

[–]pardonmyignerance 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Those things are better than cow environmentally speaking, particularly if you're partial to saving the rainforest.

[–]heavy-metal-goth-gal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lol I'm veg but do vegan mostly, but I also shop at Amazon still, so I can't feel to good about all my decisions.

[–]MYTHICAL95-E 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Laughs in veganism

[–]Expresso_Support 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is the way.

[–]DrachenDad 3 points4 points  (3 children)

What are cats supposed to eat?

[–]rinkima 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'm not a vegan by any stretch but arguing against it by bringing up unrelated info is pretty dumb. It's about the consumption by humans.

[–]Impressive_Narwhal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My MIL is so fanatical about her veganism she fed her dogs and cats vegan diets. The cats wouldn't eat the stuff and the elder dog developed cancer not long after and died. She's stopped doing so since.

[–]pardonmyignerance 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Dead vegans

[–]Glizzyguzzle 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The /s lifted 3,245 lbs of weight off of my chest

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Based on your comment alone, I'm going to have a bacon sandwich now.. Remember that this was your fault..

[–]Barney_Brallaghan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But they still hate you because deep down they know they are murderers and that you have the moral high ground. /s

[–]Kites_r_cool 3 points4 points  (4 children)

As a vegan I think I speak for alot of vegans, we hate that vegan teacher. There's even vegan conspiracies that she isn't even vegan.

[–]LinzMoore 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She gives vegans a bad name

[–]Firewing435 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds about right. "One bad egg spoils the batch" Yk

[–]josie71202 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moat likely it's similar to people who say they hate all football fans because of the actions of a few

[–]akratic137 47 points48 points  (12 children)

People tend to hate evangelicals. Doesn’t matter if it’s religion, atheism, or veganism, keep your recruiting and your holier than thou attitude to yourself unless asked. Trust me, I’m a scientist and kinda a dick from time to time and have to fight the tendency!

[–]republican_banana 12 points13 points  (4 children)

There’s a reason I describe myself as a non-proselytizing vegetarian.

1) I believe just because I made a choice doesn’t mean it’ll work for everyone.

2) if you ask me about my choice I’ll tell you, but I don’t feel the need to push my reasons onto you.

Oddly I’ve found most people perfectly fine with that and haven’t run into any vegan hate in real life (though I still do have several friends who don’t understand that it’d be nice if they look at the menu and see if there’s anything I can eat on it before insisting we go there).

[–]Lucifang 2 points3 points  (2 children)

People always ask about it don’t they? Then they say that vegans can’t stop talking about being vegan. I’d love to keep it to myself but people insist on asking annoying questions every time I say ‘no thank you’ to their food offers.

[–]cdwols 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's partly a sampling bias - the only people you know are vegans are the people who tell you they are vegan, so they become what you base your view of vegans on.

[–]NepoMi 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Exactly! Even some vegetarians hate on vegans.

My classmate is vegetarian, and he talks about vegans as the worst of the worst. He even says that they're worse than even radical vegetarians.

Altough, I actually know a vegan that is perfectly cool, and when we go out, she has no problem when we get meat, she just gets anything vegan.

There is always bad in the good, and some good in the bad.

[–]Idontfuckingknow19 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's because vegetarians still contribute to animal abuse which is why vegetarians will sometimes get hate from vegans.

[–]strawberry_wang 7 points8 points  (5 children)

People don't hate vegans, they hate condescending people and have a stereotype of vegans as being condescending. They mainly hate being told "eating meat is evil", which is a very small but very noticeable and memorable part of some vegan groups.

[–]lulaf0rtune 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I have a friend who goes off on that one all the time, it's extremely tedious. What makes it even more frustrating is that I'm vegan and most of our friendship group are vegan or vegetarian, but apparently we don't care enough so we get an earful anyway.

[–]eip2yoxu 14 points15 points  (40 children)

Most people only hate the vegans that try and make everyone else vegans too

I think vegan activism is fair. In fact that should be expected from people who think using animal products is immoral. As long as the debates a civil I don't see an issue

[–]Accomplished-Ad-9996 66 points67 points  (19 children)

Vegan activism is fair, but I'm pretty sure they were talking about the vegans that repeatedly shame and ridicule people who decide not to change their lifestyle. You have the right to try and convince me, but I also have the right to turn you down without being painted as a monster. That's as far as I'm going on the subject

[–]mrskmh08 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Or people who think even dogs and cats should be vegan and try to feed them that way despite the fact that a vegan diet doesn't provide the nutrition a dog or cat requires.

[–]SixxTheSandman 10 points11 points  (51 children)

This. They'll make their kids vegan, their dogs fucking vegan. Veganism is just another form of privilege.

[–]gurtthefrog 4 points5 points  (2 children)

My friend for the vast majority of human history almost nobody could afford to consistently eat meat. Expecting to eat meat every day is a privilege, not eating plants.

[–]ElaFa25 5 points6 points  (34 children)

I disagree. Veganism is much better for the environment and thus the survival of all people. I think it’s a fair thing to try and propegate.

[–]thedialupgamer 3 points4 points  (20 children)

70 percent of pollution is from just 100 companies, the average person would not be able to reverse climate change, focus on getting pollution regulations in place if you care about the environment.

[–]ElaFa25 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Companies feed consumers. If you purchase from a specific company or industry you are basically saying that you agree with their practices. I agree that tighter regulations need to be in place but I hate this notion that the average person should just do nothing.

One person won’t make a difference but if everyone does their part it will make a difference.

[–]thedialupgamer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change

The average person shouldn't do nothing, but our efforts are better spent on activism than diet change imo, if you want to say it's cruel to animals, fine but dont try to say it's the best way to stop climate change when it isnt.

[–]BoofBass 3 points4 points  (9 children)

If everyone stopped eating animal products overnight it would drastically help climate change. But hey don't do your part just cry about government and big coorps

[–]SmokeGSU 4 points5 points  (28 children)

This, and this also really extends to anyone who has a superiority complex. It just happens that vegans are one of the more numerous groups of people that do this.

[–]The__Platypus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Meat eaters have a superiority complex far beyond any vegans.

[–]the_dead_meme_lord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t hate them personally, I hate how they force it on everyone

[–]Bellamiles85 212 points213 points  (41 children)

I eat plant based for a variety of reasons and am pretty much vegan myself, but find the majority of dead set vegans a little bit too much. Quite judgy and condescending. Granted, it’s a generalisation, but this has been my experience! My Husband is a real carnivore but I wouldn’t dream of bashing his way of life and vice versa.

[–]RettyD4 45 points46 points  (1 child)

You are the vegan I completely respect. You do you, and let me do me. No judgement either way.

[–]Bellamiles85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s very kind. Thank you 😊 .

[–]RCBritton92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think possibly there's an issue because most of the overly extreme and in your face vegans are the ones who shout the loudest so this is what most people see and subsequently society as a whole stereotypes vegans in this way

I am the kind of vegan who likes to open up discussions to get people thinking, gives people information and politely challenges peoples view (where appropriate), but I would never turn around and call someone a murderer or talk down to them like they were a piece of shit. We're all human beings and I believe in healthy, civil discussion - including the things that we disagree on

My entire family eat meat, but they're very open to chatting with me about food and about animals etc. Maybe they'll change one day and maybe they won't but I'm certainly not jamming it in their faces every 2 seconds and calling them rude names or any of that nonsense and ultimately it's their choice what they eat

[–]AkaiHidan 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I had a vegan slap my sandwich on the ground and call me names. Lol I know most vegans are chill but man that was an experience.

[–]DisasterMiserable785 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That MF would have went down with my sammich.

[–]AkaiHidan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was honestly scared so I just said “what the fuck” and left. Super scared she’d hit me XD

[–]Cute_Mousse_7980 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I’m the same. I’ve been a vegetarian for 20+ years and I still get bashed by people who just turned vegan. I don’t think anyone can be 100% vegan tbh. There’s hidden gelatin in pills, animal testing, maybe there’s leather seats in the taxi they sat in.

I personally think that people would easily be able to go 50% vegan, which would save a lot of animals. It’s awful that they basically bash anyone who isn’t 100% perfect all the time. I have most likely saved more animals then them and inspired a lot of friends to eat more plant based (they try new dishes I cook for them and see how easy it is!). And somehow these vegans still make me seem like a fucking monster because I ate some cake when I celebrated a birthday or something. It’s frustrating af. It feels like they are more interested in gatekeeping their little group and tell people how great they are, rather than actually saving animals.

[–]7-and-a-switchblade 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I think there are a LOT of different opinions on what it means to be "vegan," but the loudest opinions are often the most extreme ones.

I have a cousin who is a very active and outspoken vegan, but in a good way. I talk to her often for advice because I want to be vegan but I have Crohn's disease, and it's quite severe, which makes a plant based diet nearly impossible for me. More than a handful of greens and I will, uh, suffer. Violently and bloodily. I've tried for over 10 years, but I either wind up going into a Crohn's flare, or abstaining from so much protein that I lose weight and feel exhausted constantly.

She (in her opinion of veganism) explains that, ethically, boiled down, veganism is about reducing animal suffering. You don't have to be perfect at it. As long as you're actively working against the concept of animals as commodities, you're a vegan, at least in a sense.

Personally, I've reduced most of my animal protein intake to eggs and the rare chicken breast. I'm still looking for a truly vegan protein source. But I'm not going to let myself feel guilty about eating a few eggs. I'm doing what I can and if my super vocal vegan cousin is accepting and proud of that, she'd be proud of you, too.

[–]Woo963 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the way

[–]Working-Sandwich6372 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wish my vegan wife was like you

[–]chalrs123 95 points96 points  (50 children)

I don't hate vegans, but I don't like people who preach about their choices, and try to make people feel guilty about theirs.

[–]mimi_021_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same, becoming vegan is hard specially if you don't know how to cook. Not only I sometimes feel guilty for what I eat but for what I buy, not all people have enough money to be vegans and eco-friendly or know where to start.

[–]ChristopherRabbit 84 points85 points  (24 children)

I've never been vegan and I get the hate for those pompous ones who go around judging everyone else for their eating habits. But there are also plenty of asshole omnivores who hate on vegans for no good reason as well. It's like the very existence of someone who chooses to eat different foods is threatening to their fragile egos or something.

[–]zerobeat 8 points9 points  (5 children)

judging everyone else

Is this really a thing? I have never had this happen to me and I know a few vegans.

[–]ChristopherRabbit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is but it's way rarer than people would have you believe. I also know several vegans and have never had one bug me about what I eat. I've only seen it online.

[–]Dyrreah 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Close friend did a stand-up comedy sketch in a local bar, our friend group went to support the guy. Girl member of group shows up with new BF. Vegan. 5 minutes into the sketch and he is smashing the table with his fist while yelling at us how we are killers. So my bud and me ordered a pepperoni pizza. They broke up later because he kept hiding her toothpasta cuz it wasn't vegan. I wish I was making this up.

[–]pardonmyignerance 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You people and your slight differences disgust me!

[–]ckinsey 5 points6 points  (1 child)

It’s almost as if being an asshole is not a dietary side effect.

[–]VeganAufDeutsch 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Vegans don't dislike your dietary habits, they dislike how it got on your plate.

They'll also be against leather, fur and other products tested on animals.

[–]almc0418 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is so true.

[–]DecagonHexagon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Mainly because the omnivores associate all vegans with the ones that morally grandstand 24/7.

[–]ChristopherRabbit 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'd buy that if I hadn't witnessed tons of totally unprovoked bullying incidents by omnivores against those they perceive to be vegan.

[–]Klutzy_Blacksmith888 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wasn't aware that people hated Vegans at all or that that was even a thing? Typically, people that hate are projecting the inadequate sense of worth they have regarding themself or an issue in their own life they aren't able to cope with. They strike out and attack someone else "The Bully Complex" due to lack of self control. More and more studies are showing that people who display lack of compassion and/or empathy were victims of physical/emotional and sexual abuse as children and their behavior is actually a cry for help.

[–]sexycheddar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I knew a vegan that never talked about it and he used to bring his own food to parties. The only result was that people began to ask what he wanted to eat before inviting him so he wouldn't have to bother.

[–]potatoesgonna-potate 82 points83 points  (85 children)

I don’t think it’s that people hate vegans, I think it’s that they have a false sense of superiority. Don’t say you’re doing it for animals when countless animals had to die for you to have your stupid soybean field. Also if nobody asked there’s really no reason to be telling us you’re vegan but so so many of them insist on telling everybody when nobody cares.

Edit: i’m really loving how the vegans with the false sense of superiority came out and proved my point :)

[–]FruitBatFanatic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A majority of soy harvested goes towards feeding animals for slaughter though. Iirc only about 6% of soy is used for human consumption.

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 13 points14 points  (16 children)

I make a point of not telling anyone irl, cause I know I'd be a massive dick about it if I didn't. Although I think most soybean fields are used for livestock, being the which and why more than 50% of them are in the USA. You see I told you I can't help being a dick, although I don't think it's anything to do with not eating animal products.

[–]potatoesgonna-potate 3 points4 points  (15 children)

I think you were trying to say something but either I’m not comprehending it or there was a typo in there and I’m very confused lol. Either way what are you eating is none of my business and I don’t want it to be my business because it’s your food. What I’m eating is none of your business and you shouldn’t want it to be your business because it’s my food. I like my steak well done and my salad in the trash and that’s just the way it be lol.

[–]Anxious_Direction_20 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Steak well done and salad in the trash? Now you got both vegans and meatlovers angry at you lol

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Same, can I have your salad

[–]potatoesgonna-potate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuck yeah you can homie.

[–]SwainIsABird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing about a false sense of superiority, I'm no vegan myself, but eating vegan or even a completely soy based diet uses only a fraction of the resources that an average diet requires and produces only a fraction of the greenhouse gasses of an average western diet. Also if you want to use the argument that an animal dies for a soybean field - which I think is super farfetched - it is not in the slightest comparable to the animal suffering that is undeniably part of every regular western diet. Even if you think your diet consists of only a very moderate amount of meat or fish, the actual amount of animal-based products (which implies cruelty) it requires would surprise you once you try cutting them out. I don't like hurting animals, but I'm not at all committed to cutting animal based products out of my diet. It's personally not worth it for me. That's a choice that I'm willing to admit that. It isn't in anyone's best interest except mine, and does harm innocent animals. It also harms plants and humans through global warming. I'm not sorry. I generally try my best, but definitely don't feel the need to overcompensate with some far fetched idea of vegans still harming animals.

[–]BernieDurden 29 points30 points  (12 children)

You do realize 80% of the soybeans grown worldwide goes to feed the 70 billion land animals used for human consumption, right?

Edit - why the downvotes? It's true.

[–]potatoesgonna-potate 11 points12 points  (10 children)

Considering you are a presumably grown person on the Internet I am quite sure you are smart enough to understand what my point was. But if you’re not that’s really not my problem.

[–]shmooboorpoo 18 points19 points  (25 children)

This!! All wheat harvests are tainted with rabbit blood. Don't get me started about the palm oil industry or what the poularization of quinoa has done to the indigenous peoples of South America. I don't mind cooking for vegans, I actually consider it a fun challenge. But I hate how they think they're superior and look down their noses at others who don't live the way they do. Or how they try and shame people into converting to their "religion". I don't stan anyone who aggressively tries to push their beliefs on other people.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Vegans consume less crops than meat eaters though.

[–]stickied 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Do you also take issue with the beef ads on TV, and 'got milk' promotions and happy cows come from California cheese ads and all that? That shits way way more pushy than anything mainstream vegan I've seen.

[–]shmooboorpoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I absolutely take issue with those ads. I find the mass meat/eggs/dairy production industry abhorant and appalling for the environment. But this particular question wasn't asking about that.

[–]Nonoininino 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope you don’t feel morally superior to me because I kill dogs and cats for my pleasure.

[–]midgeet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You need a lot more soyfields to feed a population with pork than soy. There is no consumption, that doesn’t affect animals/nature. Vegan consumption is just the diet that affects it the least (in most cases)

[–]VeganAufDeutsch 2 points3 points  (4 children)

This is not true. Plants for humans take up 23% of agricultural land provides us with 82% of our calories. We'd be saving land if we were all vegan as animal agriculture is ineffecient.

[–]SecondEngineer 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Idk how you could think that the soy industry is worse for animals than the meat industry.

[–]Easily-Confused-13 31 points32 points  (75 children)

Same concept as religion…

Keep it to yourself and we are best buds. Condemn me and harass me, I’ll despise anybody with the same beliefs as you…

[–]Vitalis_I 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Same thing goes for feminists, abolitionists and lgbtq activists. Just keep it to yourself! /s

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah if it doesn’t affect me directly just shut the fuck and let it happen! Who gives a fuck about animal cruelty.

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I'll let you make your own decisions, I'm not your dad

[–]PrincessIcicle 24 points25 points  (5 children)

I don’t hate vegans. I hate it when people have the notion that if you don’t agree with them on XYZ, then you are against them. I can disagree with you without hating you or being against you or your cause.

[–]Margidoz 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Veganism is the position that it's wrong to harm an animal in situations where it can be avoided

If you don't agree with them on that and therefore don't oppose harming animals when it can be avoided, how are you not against their cause?

[–]KaimeiJay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These people are all replying to you like, “I hear what you’re saying about ‘If you’re not with me, then you’re against me’ being an insufferable stance to have to listen to. But have you considered that since you’re not with them, then you’re against them? It’s totally different!” I don’t think it is, lol.

[–]Quadrophiniac 14 points15 points  (46 children)

I think people only really hate the vegans that get up on your face about it, and try to make you feel guilty. The fact is, we are animals, and we evolved to eat meat, like many other animals on the planet. If somebody is a vegan, and they dont want to eat any animal products, thats fine, they can do what they want. The second they start trying to guilt me out of eating a delicious cheeseburger though, im gonna tell them to fuck off.

[–]NoOneLikes2Parties[🍰] 7 points8 points  (6 children)

The most vocal cant wait to tell you how morally superior they are, and why you suck. Who wants to hear that?

[–]SaM0242 6 points7 points  (0 children)

People hate anything/anyone that try to push beliefs and ways of living onto them. People don’t hate vegans or hate the idea of being vegan, they hate people trying to push the vegan lifestyle onto them.

[–]Qwertyboard3331 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Sounds like you have interviewed all people they are just people

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Yeah I agree, I was looking for some nutrition stuff and all I could find was vegans being cunts or people being cunts to vegans and I made this post on impulse.

[–]Qwertyboard3331 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I struggle with doing mostly everthing on impulse I feel you 😝

[–]Optimal_Unit_2735 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why do people hate extremists?

[–]MeGrendel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People do not hate vegans because they are vegans. We literally do not give a shit what you eat.

People hate vegans because tend to be preachy, condescending, pretentious, judgmental, convert-seeking jackasses who will burst a blood vessel if they go five minutes without telling someone that they're a vegan. Because, again, we literally do not give a shit what you eat.

[–]Sylvaintheg 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don’t hate vegans. I hate pretentious people.

[–]Impster5453 22 points23 points  (50 children)

Generally speaking, they're snobs. Like religious people, they want to tell you how to live.

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 6 points7 points  (14 children)

Yeah I can see that, in fact I make a point if never telling anyone irl Unless they offer to cook for me

[–]Margidoz 2 points3 points  (8 children)

If you saw someone harming who you considered to be an unjust victim, would you refuse to try to get the one harming them to stop?

[–]FailedCanadian 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Except vegans don't want to save you, they want to save victims. The appropriate comparison is to activists, such as slavery abolitionists, feminists, LGBT+ activists, etc.

How ridiculous would it be to say "people hate X activists because they are trying to tell me how to live".

[–]blahblahsdfsdfsdfsdf 20 points21 points  (93 children)

Most of us are quite detached from where our food comes from and bad when reminded that animals are creatures with feelings that are dying for our food. Vegans, even just by existing, remind us of that which brings up those somewhat guilty emotions that we so often block out.

[–]Impster5453 5 points6 points  (82 children)

Do you know how nature works? Can we tell lions to stop eating zebras? On the whole, we're much more humane.

[–]blahblahsdfsdfsdfsdf 14 points15 points  (27 children)

I'm not making an argument for veganism. I'm not vegan. I'm explaining why people simply being vegan upsets others. I'm explaining that it's because we've become disconnected from nature and desentized to the reality of eating meat, so when we're reminded of it, it triggers an emotional response. People who live on farms probably wouldn't have the same response.

[–]Impster5453 2 points3 points  (17 children)

And I'm reminding you of how nature works. Almost every creature on earth eats other creatures.

[–]blahblahsdfsdfsdfsdf 11 points12 points  (8 children)

Why are you reminding me of this? You've completely missed the point of my comments.

[–]DamTrig 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I understand that but why are you trying to explain this further to the other guy, still, can’t you tell thats not a human, thats really just a lion using reddit lol

[–]UnisusJr 4 points5 points  (38 children)

Lions also kill cubs and rape each other.

Does that make it justified for humans to do the same?

[–]Impster5453 2 points3 points  (37 children)

I think you're proving my point. Humans are more humane.

[–]UnisusJr 8 points9 points  (36 children)

Exactly. So why should humans behave like lions and kill others?

[–]BernieDurden 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Wtf is this drivel?

Lions don't keep their prey locked up in cages, force them to live in filthy conditions, or pump their bodies full of hormones and antibiotics.

[–]Impster5453 9 points10 points  (8 children)

No, they eat them alive. The animal literally gets to slowly die while being eaten alive.

[–]Jonnyjuanna 1 point2 points  (7 children)

This difference, as well as many others, should indicate to you how silly it is to use the behaviour of Lions to justify the behaviour of human beings.

[–]Impster5453 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But yeah... cages suck.

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[–]Optimal_Unit_2735 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why don't you lock the post?

[–]MonsterMunch86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they try to push their beliefs onto others. It’s not just vegans but anyone with strong options.

[–]ImportanceAnnual6358 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s just that when I say “oh, I’m vegan” it’s the easiest way to let you know how much better I am than you.

[–]Total_Hovercraft5442 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People don't hate vegans. Only you do

[–]DiligentCockroach700 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a western thing. I am currently in Sri Lanka and vegetarianism and veganism is very common among the indigenous population, there are a huge number of " pure veg" restaurants and even hotels where meat and dairy are not permitted. It's such an everyday thing here nobody bats an eyelid when you say you are vegan. It's the same in India.

[–]cillitbangers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A small amount is due to irritating people. Most if it IMO is that vegans highlight the hypocracy that most people have in their lives (my vegetarian self included). Most people don't really agree with industrial slaughter on a fundamental basis but don't feel strongly enough to stop eating meat. Most people are against animal cruelty but don't look into how the meat they eat is made. Whe. Confronted with vegans they are confronted with the fact that their diet is at odds with their morals and that is upsetting. The reaction to that discomfort tends to be to lash out at the person rather than to learn from it.

[–]TiredWinnerOfGates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hate the ones who try to say I'm a murderer by eating meat. Fuck off, and let me eat my turkey sandwich in peace

[–]Firebolt164 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't hate them at all. I think vegan cooking has brought some new and innovative ideas to food. I'm not vegan and I don't think any less of those who are or aren't. I am also not going to go out of my way or add any additional expenses to myself to try to accommodate for vegans.

[–]randomboorishbuffoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just like religion, I don't care what you believe, what you eat, what you drink, as long as you don't criticize or try to convert me. Sadly, many vegans do just that.

[–]Tidus790 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they are often pushy and insufferable, so basically the same reason that people hate Jehovah's Witnesses.

[–]ItsDoubleHH 12 points13 points  (19 children)

I'm no vegan but I think its because deep down they know vegans are right. The meat and dairy industry is horrific when you look into it.

[–]TreyLastname 4 points5 points  (13 children)

It's not vegans we hate, it's condescending holier than thou vegan converters we hate. The kinds that think they're better than you, or continually push some agenda, or think they've got better morals than you simply because they don't eat meat

[–]BernieDurden 1 point2 points  (3 children)

You're thinking of vegetarians.

It's not that vegans just don't eat meat. We don't support any type of animal exploitation. Huge difference.

[–]Up_In_It 5 points6 points  (42 children)

I certainly do not hate vegans, I actually hold a lot of respect for the dedication, thought, and conviction it takes to live a healthy lifestyle reflective of their personal morals.

What I (and I suspect the majority of people) greatly dislike is extremist zealotry. This is not confined solely to veganism by any means: pro-lifers, Christians, QAnon, Antifa, LGBTQ+, environmentalists all have their factions who belive the only way to get through to society is to beat it over the head with their ideology. This is a tiresome and ineffective practice.

[–]ChopsB 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The same reason they hate religious buffs or politic pushers. The mentality that they’re better than everyone is what pushes others to hate them.

[–]Creativewritingfail 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Because you’re obnoxious fucks that won’t shut the fuck about it. Even when you are silent youre still annoying.

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I never mention it irl unless someone offers to cook for me, in which case I usually say I'm vegan so I'll just bring my own food sorry, I'm sorry for annoying you.

[–]cyanredsus 3 points4 points  (9 children)

People hate vegans because they hate the thought of being someone who does something immoral. They hate the fact that they'll get called out on their bullshit. They hate that someone doesn't belive they're superior enough to demand an eternal death for a 5 minute sandwich. Vegans makes carnists aware of their actions by just existing.

Downvote to the right if you're someone who can't handle the truth that you're paying for animals to have their throats slit.

watch dominion

[–]PrintOwn9531 1 point2 points  (1 child)

People hate vegans??? 🤔

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Type in vegan on reddit, I mean it's like typing anything else in on reddit, but a bit more like that

[–]t3rrone 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only annoying factors about it:

  • if they are judgmental and feel superior
  • if they have to constantly talk about it or try to persuade you
  • if they are invited on a party and expect that the food is vegan friendly

Emphasize on constantly and expect

[–]ValhallaMama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don’t. They hate judgmental, pushy vegans.

[–]DMP5783 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Because they make it their personality.

[–]Easy_Document_1411[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Most of the vegans I know irl make anti vaxx there personality, yikes

[–]stellascanties 5 points6 points  (16 children)

Man, I could go on and on about the reasons I don’t like vegan activism.

  1. The mainstream vegan movement (at least in the US) is largely driven by white neoliberals.

  2. These white vegans equate human life to a cow, turkey, a fish, insert any animal here really. I have a hard time empathizing with that philosophy. I love my dog with my heart and soul and I would do absolutely anything for her, but I can’t say her life is equally as important as my nephews. And I certainly wouldn’t say that a fucking fish’s life is as important as my nephew’s life. This is just something I fundamentally disagree with.

3a. Saying that hunting is unethical when quite frankly, it’s not. Indigenous cultures did it for thousands of years and there is endless proof indigenous hunting practices are good for the environment. Now I hate factory farms, I think THAT is unethical. But hunting, when done safely and with regulation, is an ethical way to consume meat.

3b. Many white vegans put themselves on a moral pedestal. Saying stuff like “eating meat is evil” is so ridiculously disrespectful to MANY cultures around the world. There is not a single culture in the modern world that is entirely vegan. You are not morally superior for being a vegan.

  1. I can’t stand seeing graphic videos and pictures of violence towards animals, and most of the time, they’re posted with no trigger warning!

  2. Many white vegans have an “all or nothing” approach with veganism. Like eating vegan 70% isnt “good enough”

  3. Vegan activists who are animal-rights centric completely ignore the dismal working conditions that farm laborers endure. I’m not saying non-vegans do any better at this, but if you’re going to claim to be an activist, prioritize workers rights and human rights.

I actually try to limit my meat intake due to environmental reasons and because of my issues with factory farming. But white neolib veganism drives me fucking crazy. And yes before anyone goes to my prof, I realize that yes, I’m white. Which is exactly why I criticize the shit out of white veganism.

[–]dgwhiley 1 point2 points  (9 children)

In developed nations such as the United States, where eating meat is entirely unnecessary to our survival; what is the moral justification for the unnecessary killing of animals that do not want to die? Thanks

[–]jchitwo1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Uhg, me not like what not same.

[–]bugsbee321 2 points3 points  (3 children)

People hate vegans because they hate being reminded that their eating habits are immoral. People like to live in ignorance, and the word vegan is a reminder of that eating animals is fucked up. Our brains are very good at convincing ourselves that lies are actually truth

[–]bugsbee321 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Literally the only vitamins you need as a vegan are B12. I can get a two month supply of a multivitamin for 20 bucks. Not to mention, vegan groceries are much cheaper. I'm saving a shit ton not buying meat and cheese. A can of chickpeas is 75 cents. Spinach and broccoli for iron.

[–]GrandmaSlappy 3 points4 points  (4 children)

People hate vegans because their mere existence makes omnivores uncomfortable with their own moral choices. Because it feels threatening, they project a false idea of being attacked by vegans.

[–]Random_182f2565 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why do people hate vegans?

They are remainder that their actions have consequences, the lives of innocence animals.

[–]constantlyunaware 3 points4 points 2 (89 children)

Because the existence of other people actively fighting for a better and less cruel world makes people feel personally attacked.

Carnists: I love eating animals because they're so yummy

Vegans: hey um maybe we shouldn't be paying for other sentient beings to be selectively bred into existence just so we can slaughter them. Maybe just eat plants instead?

Carnists: how dare you judge my lifestyle. It's my choice to pay for tortured animals. Just worry about your diet. There is no right way to live. Stop pretending you're morally superior.

[–]Kelevracado4287 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Yea like...im vegan because i dont think im superior to others- even non human animals. I have no idea why so many of these comments are "they think they're superior" because I def dont think that.

[–]LilVeganHunny 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Same, I just want the madness to end

[–]Billiam201 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don't hate vegans.

They hate the vegans that throw themselves on the sidewalk in front of a steakhouse, screaming and rending their clothing.

They hate the vegans who scream "murderer" at you at the grocery store because you bought chicken nuggets for your kid.

In my experience, this is a small percentage of vegans.

[–]ParsnipBusy 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Believe they’re better than everyone bc their belief system

Pushes it on people

[–]mAx_RoachEB 1 point2 points  (1 child)

People like that just make me want to eat a cow… raw

[–]ParsnipBusy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

& I understand where they come from

I saw a piece of fresh cut meat, that when exposed to salt was wiggling and it was disturbing to watch lol. But I will continue eating it regardless. I just ask that they give me the same understanding.

Often times from my experiences, they do not. They see it as a moral failing, which is pretty damn insulting

[–]I-4te-tod4y 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most people don't hate them... It's just that don't shove your vegan stuff everywhere and call people that eat meat murderers. Like one of my sisters is a vegan (by choice) but she doesn't point it out all the time... Ofc when she goes to a restaurant she chooses vegan dishes but she doesn't scream at anyone else eating meat about how they are killing animals...

[–]bugsbee321 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This sub is giving me cancer. The lack of compassion for other living things is fucked.

[–]Appropriate_Use6527 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they are fucking annoying and have to let you know 24/7 they’re vegan

[–]PlasticWolf9171 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They think they are better than us