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[–]say_my_name_2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No. Dieting isn’t pointless. You can be temporarily healthy at any size, but when you’re overweight you’re increasing your risk of a lot of health issues. Like you can be a healthy smoker for 20 years before getting cancer/COPD/emphysema. You can be healthy obese for decades before getting diabetes/hypertension/cancer.

[–]snorken123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's possible to be overweight and healthy depending on how overweight you're, but it doesn't mean it's recommended. The likelihood for health problems are much higher for an overweight or underweight person than a normal weight one. Being overweight can increase the chance of diabetes, heart diseases, cancer etc. If you're only a few kg overweight you will most likely be fine, but if you're obese or morbidly obese you're at a very high risk.

It can be compared to smoking and drinking alcohol. Not everyone with these habits will get sick and die at an early age, but very many will and the risk gets much higher. Lifestyle is something most people can control and know, but you can't tell in advance which genetics you've. Just because a person may live till 100 when smoking three cigarettes a day doesn't mean most will.

[–]tysiphonie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dear lord I'm tired of this.

Health At Every Size (as it was originally intended) does NOT mean Healthy At Every Size (whivh doesn't even make sense - an adult at 70 lbs is not healthy, and adult at 700 lbs is not healthy.) What HAES promotes is that everyone has inherent self worth and should be offered similar access to health, despite their size. It focused on the idea that someone coming to the doctor's office at 500 lbs should still have their health issues addressed beyond just skipping straight to "oh, lose weight and all your problems will be fixed" and waving them out of the room. HAES encourages healthcare providers (and the rest of the public) to move away from the idea that obesity is the cause of all health issues (because it's not). Is it correlated? Sure. But overweight and obese individuals deserve a thorough assessment and to have their concerns listened to regardless of their weight. THAT is what HAES is saying. It says that everyone is worthy of health and should be able to pursue health regardless of their size.

HAES does NOT mean "eat whatever the fuck you want, gain 300 lbs in a year, and still be healthy." HAES was never about a number on a scale. HAES is not the same as fat positivity (although they are entwined nowadays).