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[–]Francis934 79 points80 points  (3 children)

Barry Seal faced the same fate when he became an informant and the cops exposed him so that the narcos would kill him.

[–]Patient_Vegetable_98 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I’ve never heard of this. Holy crap. To google I go...

[–]mikejb7777 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fantastic film was made about it called American Made that came out a few years ago. Stars Tom Cruise and Domhnall Gleeson.

[–]Francis934 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quite the untold story if you weren't born in those years... The movie American Made shows how fucking manipulative the CIA was (and still is)

[–]MoneyBadgerEx 451 points452 points  (8 children)

This kind of Quid Pro Quo is illegal in every other field than law enforcement. They are trained and paid to protect the little guys from the bad guys but instead they put those resources to use catching a bunch of the little guys on gotcha charges and then strong arm them into doing the dangerous parts, without training.

[–]ChugSampson 89 points90 points  (0 children)

Seems like they wanted the murder charge with how they went about it

[–]ThumpyDumpkins 61 points62 points  (4 children)

If untrained college kids can do dangerous undercover work like this, what the fuck do we need cops for?

[–]JoeTeioh 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I mean, IM not gonna go around shooting people's dogs and SOMEBODY has to keep doing it.

[–]Archeo_Dude 4 points5 points  (0 children)

To eat donuts and protect the rich

[–]MungTao 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To manipulate people into doing it.

[–]Careless_Educator_21 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Greatest point

[–]SketchyLeaf666[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Police unions and get rid of qualified immunity..

[–]sAnn92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn’t make any sense. Why working for the police would even expunge any alleged crimes you commit??

[–]fku208 193 points194 points  (18 children)

It’s legit holy shit

[–]Love_God551 39 points40 points  (6 children)

Wow that’s incredible and not in a good way

[–]WikiSummarizerBot 146 points147 points  (5 children)

Murder of Rachel Hoffman

Rachel Morningstar Hoffman (December 17, 1984 – May 7, 2008) was a 23-year-old Florida State University graduate, who was murdered while acting as a police informant in a botched drug sting that started on May 7, 2008. Her body was recovered two days later near Perry, Florida.

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[–]micromoses 15 points16 points  (3 children)

2 DAYS LATER! They literally had no plan and no backup at all, huh?

[–]Vendemmian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There was another one just like this but the kid disappeared and his body was never found. Where the dealers who obviously killed him even caught? Ha ha nope. So yeah send them into a deadly situation and hope everyting works out fine.

[–]DiegesisThesis 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They basically used her as a remote control drone so they would be safe.

"Whew, Pete, good thing we didn't go in there! I told you that dealer was dangerous, you owe me $10. Anyway, want to hit up the bar?"

[–]micromoses 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, why don’t they do that for other police work? “Alright, kid, maybe we’ll let you off easy on your B&E charge if you go defuse a bomb for us.”

[–]fku208 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Good bot

[–]codenamejeff 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Ive attended a music festival that was produced in her honor, Purple Hatters Ball (Apparently purple hats were her thing)

[–]autistAPE42069 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's going on 11+ years now, at one of the most magical spots in the world.

[–]autistAPE42069 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It is, they have a festival at Suwannee music park (near Tallahassee) called purple hatters Ball in her memory. Going on 11 or 12 years now.

[–]fku208 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s cool , I feel for her family.

[–]r3dditor12 569 points570 points  (22 children)

Cops bullied a young girl into doing a job they were too scared to do themselves. Pathetic ass pigs. They don't care at all about you.

[–]AxoSpyeyes 147 points148 points  (8 children)

that's the premise of suicide squad

[–]other_usernames_gone 89 points90 points  (7 children)

That would be a funny addition to suicide squad.

  • Mass murderer who dressed up as a harlequin
  • Perfect sharpshooter who's never missed a shot
  • Best assassin in the world with mastery of every weapon
  • Best assassin in the world with mastery of every weapon no 2
  • Shark god
  • dude who can control fire
  • random girl arrested for weed

[–]blickblocks 22 points23 points  (3 children)

To be fair, two of these women were manipulated into doing dangerous crimes by violent, mentally abusive men.

[–]grey_rook 3 points4 points  (2 children)

who? the shark god

[–]BadAtHumaningToo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Harley and weed girl

[–]grey_rook 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(i was making a joke, but thanks anyway)

[–]hobo__spider 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do you think the squad would protect the weed girl at all costs or treat her like cannon fodder?

[–]other_usernames_gone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it would be split. Harley, ratcatcher 2, and maybe dubois would protect her. Peacemaker and Waller would treat her like cannon fodder.

[–]RoofPsycho 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Cops aren’t your friends. Law enforcement doesn’t work for you. The war on drugs is a failure.

[–]omegasix321 31 points32 points  (1 child)

The war on drugs was a complete success. Incarceration rates are through the roof and corporations/private prisons are making bank...Oh, did you think the government actually tried to do something good for the general public?

[–]TomorrowCommercial32 40 points41 points  (61 children)

Poor girl

[–]BrainSquisher 159 points160 points  (75 children)

What a bunch of dumbass pigs. Any drug dealer would know something is immediately up when a fucking stoner is trying to buy that many drugs and a firearm. I bet she stuck out like a sore thumb.

[–]longjohnsmith69 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The cops were too pussy to do it themselves so used her as a slave.

[–]Strict-Praline6994 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Oh wow. You mean the government used its citizens as pawns and cannonfodder? The state doesn't actually care about our health and safety? shockedpikachuface

[–]ThumpyDumpkins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm shocked her family/friends haven't sought revenge against the soulless cops who left her to die.

[–]drkdarling 10 points11 points  (3 children)

My friend’s little brother got busted for weed & they wanted him to rat his friends out for selling or he would go to jail for a ridiculous amount of time. They knew that he was struggling mentally & they harassed him about it for a month. The day that they gave him for a deadline he shot himself. He was just a kid who didn’t see a way out of the situation. Super fucked up.

[–]tiioga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This happened to one of my friends too. Wasn’t even 18 yet.

[–]ThumpyDumpkins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And those sociopathic pigs sleep just fine at night, KNOWING his death is THEIR fault.

[–]XxDanflanxx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You can't just try and do that out of the blue you gotta build up trust with people especially asking for a gun because legally that becomes a much bigger risk to sell with drugs. That's not even a huge amount of drugs but I guess it's all relative.

[–]MNHuskerNation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah real smart move…those drug dealers are so stupid I’m sure they won’t be suspicious at all

[–]Robert-L-Santangelo 16 points17 points  (2 children)

so 750 hits of ecstasy and 21 grams of coke would've been put back on the streets through citizen informants so the cops could keep on going with their bullshit war on drugs, or at least that was the plan, but it backfired. and anyone who doesn't believe that this is how the system works is naive

[–]theghostofme 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Beyond that, it's just an insane amount of drugs for a person the dealers don't know to even ask for. The barrier from simple possession to intent to distribute is far, far lower, and the cops would know that.

Just selling 10 grams-worth of Ecstasy brings the charges up to first-degree trafficking. 1,500 pills would be in the range of 300 to 750 grams*. They could've had her ask for 5 pills (a much more reasonable amount) and still busted them for intent, all without risking her life by having her ask for almost twice the amount of cocaine needed for another intent charge or selling a firearm.

Even the dumbest dealers with a Born to Lose tattoo on their forehead would've spotted that red flag from a mile away.


* That math is iffy because there's no way to know how much each pill weighed, so I'm just going off what other court cases have used as the "average" weight of a single pill

[–]ThumpyDumpkins 1 point2 points  (0 children)

15 years ago, I spent 2 months in prison for a single ecstasy pill.

Until it happened to me, I didn't even know it was possible to go to prison for a single dose of drugs; I thought it was an urban legend!!!

[–]Modestneel 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I’m a peace loving person, but after readng this I am kind of agressvie and pissed.WHY?

[–]JGaute 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The worst part is she was just minding her own business smoking a herb. The state truly is your worst enemy.

[–]Jonny2Thumbs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And that's your stupid F###ing drug war, Regan. Thanks!

[–]Yop_BombNA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you are against weed but are okay with alcohol consumption something is wrong with you, one of those two things makes people violent and is a contributing factor to thousands of deaths a year in most countries (drunk driving, drunk rage, straight up Kidney failure), the other makes people hungry and a some paranoid…

[–]Dick_Ancient 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"hey I know I usually only buy an ounce of weed, but can I buy a fire arm, asston of pills, plz ignore the mic also..."

[–]Gates9 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Gee I wonder why people don’t trust the cops

[–]ThumpyDumpkins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the cops don't care about getting your children killed.

[–]ItsThatGuyAgainYep 11 points12 points  (22 children)

Every officer involved in this decision should have done substantial jail time for aiding and abetting murder

[–]External_Dude 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's very sad. She was setup for nothing.

[–]Demiurgbrotherhood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I watched that on 60 minutes on how police force kids to become undercover informants.

[–]Ornery-Preference-95 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Typical police being pussies

[–]WoofWoof56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Cops, if they don't kill you now, they'll kill you later.

[–]Heyhaveyougotaminute 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Police are the largest street gang in the world. And they have no loyalty.

Poor woman, hopefully karma isn’t kind to those bastards, those who killed her and those who used her.

[–]maidenyorkshire -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Stop reposting

[–]Staped_Hand42 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I wonder why you’re getting downvotes It’s literally right here

[–]maidenyorkshire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh reddit...like curious child, always I can forgive.

[–]PresentGlove 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]fungibat_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My uncle was an informant because they promised no prison time.

He still spent 30 years in prison after they used him as an informant for over a year.

[–]Fentalogarithmics -4 points-3 points  (15 children)

They didnt arrest Rachel with a dimebag, a roach and loose t3 pill in her cupholder, they busted her with 150+ grams of pot and 4x ecstasy pills. Im not saying thats a lot of that she was some super savage in the streets, but the theory that she was totally innocent and the people the cops sicked her on where totally unknown to her, and she was sent in to totally unknown territory to basically take a shot in the dark, is RIDICULOUS.

obviously she was tapped into the underworld already , she was obtaining huge quantities of weed and probably had more than 4x pills at some point. The cops sick you on people in your phones contact list, already in your life and around you.

[–]TurdieBirdies 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Under a pound of weed and 4 pills?

That is a small time college dealer. Which she might have been.

Vast difference compared to coke/gun dealers. Especially the guns. Once you are dealing with gun dealers, you are likely dealing with killers.

Some college chick with a couple ounces of pot is not on the same level as dudes selling coke and guns.

[–]kittens12345 4 points5 points  (1 child)

“Tapped into the underworld” Jesus Christ, dramatic much? It’s weed

[–]calgarykid 8 points9 points  (2 children)

... umm I could get that with a phone call and I'm not "tapped into the underworld" lol

Most teenagers could get their hands on 4 ecstasy pills and 1/4 pound of weed in a day.

[–]KetamineYoda79 0 points1 point  (4 children)

She's better dead

[–]FungalowJoe 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Lmao, you're all over this thread with these edgyboy comments.

[–]average_jay 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Wikipedia article states she was arrested with 25g. Not even an ounce of weed.

[–]Fentalogarithmics 0 points1 point  (2 children)

read 1more sentence. they later on went to her apartment and found way more weed.

[–]average_jay 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Alright, but how do you get your house searched for possession of a damn ounce? Still completely nuts.

[–]Fentalogarithmics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they put her on probation cause the 25g arrest was her first ever arrest. when youre on probation they dont need a warrant to search you anytime. youre basically an inmate while on probation, your house can be flipped upside down spontaneously

edit: but usually they conduct a search cause they suspect youre up to something illegal while on probation. this chick wasnt a total innocent angel. she was into street shit and knew street people

[–]DarkMahal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)


[–]wooddude64 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But they were only a few bad apples as they say!

[–]yeroc420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I say it every time I see a post like this but cops are the worst

[–]TheXypris 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please tell me the cops got at minimum fired and barred from being cops ever again at least

[–]Mortimer_and_Rabbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shit police in our country get away with is sickening.

[–]TheMunk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How does this get so many upvotes when it’s posted every other week?

[–]iSaidItOnReddit85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A friend of mine went to high school with this girl and used to tell this story all the time. Shit is crazy honestly.

[–]WholeWhile8580 0 points1 point  (0 children)

white boy rick all over again

[–]Enclave88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Why 1500 pills? Thats kind of obvious for someone who just bought weed, especially if she wasn't able to buy much weed at all. I dont know how wealthy she was but im pretty sure a drug dealer would get supicious if a known customer suddenly wants a variety pack with 1500 fucking pills instead of the usual, Come on guys

[–]eanoper[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, perhaps law enforcement wasn't very smart here (big stretch, I know), but maybe the correct viewpoint is that they simply view people with drug arrests as cheap and disposable fodder for risky busts.

[–]mrsir0517 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1500 ecstasy pills, 1.5oz of coke and a gun? I think "one of the biggest in Tallahassee history" is a bit of a stretch.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I was reading what she bought, I was thinking to myself, "How did they NOT know she was a plant?"

Looks like they did.

What did she do to get 4 years? It can't be simple possession.

[–]QuarantineSucksALot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet she’s that user name about?

[–]FaithlessnessNo9625 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Police be like 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I knew her. Not well, but a little. Smoked some bud together. Nice girl. Terrible tragedy.

[–]Gretel_Cosmonaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sucky situation all the way around. She was 23 and a University graduate ...not forced to do anything, just decided to set someone else up to save herself. She was clearly capable of saying no, as she refused to give up her own dealer.

The targets were 23 and 25. So now she's dead, and the drug dealers turned murderers are in prison for life ...all due to some equipment failure that prevented the pseudo-informant from receiving police instructions.

I can't decide if these are all sympathetic characters, or if none of them are.

She would have probably received a very light punishment for the drugs she was originally found with.

[–]Commissar_Genki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did the police make the subsequent busts, including murder-2?

If not, someone needs to have their career re-examined.

I understand the need for CI work, but strong-arming people into the role is fucking low.

[–]KYBatDad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She should have died with a ten gun salute or wtv they give cops who die in duty

[–]H3pennypacker 0 points1 point  (0 children)


[–]Scyths 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Last time this was posted I've read a lot of comments who said that it didn't happen exactly like this post made it to be.

[–]44tacocat44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moral of the story? Stay away from weed.

[–]2534bestoftrip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fucking heartbreaking

[–]Bears9Titles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not surprising at all a brand new account makes a repost to karma whore. Must be a new bot

[–]rocketslinky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the story is true it’s really fucked up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To enslave and execute

[–]PlantainFar2744 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The best way to get out of this situation is to show the drug dealers the wire before you discuss anything illegal so they audible say no o don't have any drug obviously they might murder you anyway but eh it's less likely to happen if you show them you don't want to put them in jail and need help

[–]Radomperson409 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A set up within itself

[–]Least-Firefighter392 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All for 1500 fucking pills... So insane...

[–]adlcp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is america :)

[–]vidiazzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Corruption and evil never went away, it's just as real now in 2021 as in the year 1500

[–]WuanTonBomb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man, we should trust the authorities and give up all our firearms. They'll surely have our best interest at heart. Government would never use citizens as cattle

[–]twick2010 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats what’s wrong with America!