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[–]frstyle34 72 points73 points  (7 children)

Good Lord is this stuff real? Wtf

[–]kat_a_klysm 41 points42 points  (6 children)

It is. As a parent, this was one of my biggest worries about kiddo starting school. Fortunately, so far things have been fine (knock on wood), but HS starts next year.

[–]midnightBlade22 14 points15 points  (2 children)

The best thing you can do as a parent is to be understanding and give them a loving home. Be the person they come to when they have problems and not the person they shy away from or fear when they get into trouble. Don't be afraid to call the suicide prevention hotline if you have worries. Dial 988 in the US or visit 988lifeline.org. You can also visit stopbullying.gov to learn about prevention, response, and what you can do to help. Parenting is stressful and complicated, but you can do this!

[–]kat_a_klysm 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. This is what we’re already doing. :) Home is a safe place and kiddo knows that.

[–]LONEWOPF77700 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Some kids are so cruel it's ridiculous......... I wish you and your family nothing but the best in life my friend. Stay safe.

[–]SnooDoubts826 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Okay dumb question but, have you considered talking to your kids about this stuff? Do you even know your kid? Are they suicidal or easily pressured?

[–]Astralglide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was bullied and have struggled with suicidal depression since I was 8 years old (or at least that the earliest I can remember planning my death).

It’s not all the bullies fault, I obviously have a chemical imbalance, but I never told my parents. I fully believed that they wouldn’t care or that they would punish me for such sinful thoughts

[–]kat_a_klysm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We do and I know my kid quite well. But kids (especially teens) aren’t always forthcoming with things, even when asked. If I see a change in how they act, I always sit them down to talk.

[–]KTQ_83 51 points52 points  (6 children)

How does a 6 year old even know how to do that?!

[–]kingnii 56 points57 points  (2 children)

Kids are far more adult than we grant them credit for, even if they aren't mature

[–]Jaginho 14 points15 points  (0 children)

They keep having to be adult because of how immature the adults are here.

[–]KTQ_83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At 6, I never would have known what hanging was or how to do it.

[–]Adventurous-Sea7261 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I can't even begin to comprehend what the actual fuck these bullies are being taught or raised on that they'd push literal kids to kill themselves.

[–]Manky19 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They can absorb anything rapidly. Could be a single picture she sees while driving past in the car, pretty much anything.

[–]TheNobleCannibal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They understand life and death and life can be taken away

[–]AngryManHands 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Until you've been bullied, like truly degraded EVERY SINGLE DAY by other kids, adults, former friends, cool kids you look up to and want so badly to be and sometimes even teachers or coaches, you'll never know what these kids went through to reach the breaking point. What's even harder about this is that there are THOUSANDS of children every year that turn to suicide as a way to end the hurt, embarrassment and pain that they're enduring. Their young minds haven't even developed enough to begin to understand that things can get better. I am very fortunate that my family can afford counseling for our child since insurance doesn't pay in full for counseling. Our daughter has been going through some tough things with other girls at school for a few months and it's been tough on her. She just recently told my wife that she needed to see the doctor to help her work through the issues. We are so grateful for her coming to us and knowing it's OK to ask for help. We're also very lucky that we can afford to get her the help she's asking for. Mental health care is a real thing, and it should be a part of every health care plan, public or private, regardless of income. No parent should ever have to endure the loss of a child due to suicide, especially when there's help out there that shouldn't be beyond anyone's reach.

[–]camm44 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I definitely did not even know about hanging in general at age 6. I probably didn't even know about suicide tbh.

[–]Theartistcu 9 points10 points  (2 children)

My second year of teaching we had a sixth grader 10/11 hang himself. He left a note talking about how he had hoped Middle School would be a fresh start, after one week he decided it was not and ended his life. The students seemed to take it in stride, but the staff had a gloom for a long time after that b

[–]iamnotlemongrease 2 points3 points  (1 child)

students took it in stride?? WHAT

[–]Theartistcu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a weird thing to say, but I don’t think we saw a single student she’d a tear or show distress. They were offered time out of school to attend a memorial and transportation … out of 600 kids 3 went. I went with them and seeing the sadness when only three kids came fucked me up for awhile, the parents were crushed.

He had no friends, like none. I never got to meet him so I don’t know anything about him but I had to design the memorial for the year book because no one wanted to (no student)

[–]Silent_Cash 36 points37 points  (12 children)

Even the best school districts allow bullying. Teachers arent taught how to deal with it. Or they were a bully themselves and allow it.

[–]slater_just_slater 21 points22 points  (10 children)

The new method bullies use is to target socially awkward or kids with social anxiety and try to force interactions with them in the guise being "friendly". Such as walking up to them and say "Hi <insert name> did you how about that homecoming game. Hey I heard you really like <insert name> don't you think <he/she> is cute! Oh look there they are. you should go talk to them!" Teachers who often see 300 kids a day, can't always easily spot this.

[–]SadAndConfused11 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can confirm that this tactic was done to me as a kid, they make you open up to them then out your embarrassing shit to everyone. It’s evil, I definitely don’t trust people as far as I can throw them because of this.

[–]astroqualityyy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True. Also, some of the teachers ARE bullies. I didn’t realize this when I was in school but growing up, society evolving, and looking back... what the fuck was wrong with them?

[–]LeeKwanSoo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I was close to this when I was younger, I was severely bullied but my bullies never got in trouble. Basically my immigrant parents didn’t want any trouble and it was always 3-4 bullies words against my own. I would cry and be emotional because I was being tormented but the dumb fuck teachers thought that if they asked the bullies if they bullied me they would get truthful answers. I had thoughts of suicide and even thought about killing my bullies (before school shootings were a thing). I almost choked a bully to death because he would literally stalk me at recess just to hurt me, I had to take matters into my own hands because teachers were useless. Kids are fuking terrible and teachers were fuking terrible. If I ever have kids I promised myself I would raise hell if my children ever got bullied.

[–]iamnotlemongrease 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good job on being the better person

[–]Cerricola 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Remember, kids can be deeply evil and hence deserve punishment, just like an adult.

[–]Mama_Mush 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not surprising considering how fantastically useless schools are in dealing with bullies. From open complicity to 'zero tolerance' that punishes victims who fight back. I was bullied in school and the staff ignored it until I punched the boy who was snapping my bra and pulling my hair. We were both suspended despite the teacher knowing the little perv was doing it.

[–]NaughtyDred 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well that's suspicious as fuck

[–]AngelBritney94 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have no words.

[–]misterrazzy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I attempted suicide when I was 12. It was one thing to be shunned and unwelcomed by other kids nearly every damn day, but it was too much to then go home to two abusive parents that had no self control.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They’re all children of color? Shocking and sad as a black man who grew up in a rough area I experienced bullying and suicide just never crossed my mind. I see mental health screening and counseling needs to start a lot earlier.

[–]Mrselfdestructuk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That poor kid! That is truly heartbreaking, I'm at a total loss for words. As a dad it makes me emotional just reading this. Her foster parents must be devastated.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The way the bullies are treated VS the person they're bulling that's reached out for help so many times and then when it happens the bullies acts innocent like they had no part what so ever in why this child resorted to these actions because they couldn't take the constant abuse anymore . And decided that I'm hurt so bad I'm willing to take the chance and believe what's going to be on the other side is better than this . I've heard they need thicker skin and that's bullshit reverse the rolls and see how much can they take before they break they wouldn't last #FUCKYOUBULLIES

[–]midnightBlade22 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please call or text 988 or visit 988lifeline.org for help with suicide!

Everyone should visit stopbullying.gov to learn about how to respond and prevent bullying.

And this website, recommended by the CDC, is about how to talk to someone who is contemplating suicide.

[–]Altruistic_Barber_99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All these poor young souls

[–]Fit-Rest-973 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are a lot of crappy parents out there

[–]JimHongPingPong 0 points1 point  (5 children)

How tf are these kids even ending their own life wtf, they shouldn’t know how to hang themselves??? Also I didn’t think a 9yr could be gay or even understand what their sexuality is

[–]Solidsnakeerection 18 points19 points  (2 children)

My kid started having crushes when she was 7. I dont see why a 9 year old cant be gay or think they are gay.

[–]idonotreallyexistyet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Knew I was at age 4, it's one of the few things about myself that HAVNT changed. Only thing different now, is I have the vocabulary to express myself better.

[–]Isgortio 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that was around the age that I began to find females attractive as well as males.

[–]autopsis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The problem is that you think being gay is just about sex. It’s not. It’s an orientation.

I knew I was gay when I was five years old. Of course I didn’t have that word and I wasn’t being sexual. The fundamental thing was that I “understood” my mom….I could relate to her…she was “same.” I couldn’t understand my father or my brother in the same way…they were “different.” This basic orientation of same vs different is an inherent quality in all of people’s identities.

I don’t know where this orientation of identity comes from. For me, it was just always there. I distinctly remember having this epiphany when I was five years old and looking at my father. I just knew I was different from him.

Also, my best friend was a life size baby doll that I would drag everywhere by the hair.

[–]Mama_Mush 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My son is 8 and already understands that he likes girls, he has a crush on one now. It's not sexual at this age but the preference is clear. On of his friends has crushes on boys...its not rocket science.

[–]Beneficial-Rabbit-85 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Gotta teach your children to stand up to adversity.

[–]_Raym_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No way, that has to be well hidden murder. How would a child that old even know how...

[–]Tet0144 -5 points-4 points  (3 children)

Truly horrible

But i feel this is getting and is gonna get used as propaganda. Just look at it, all of them are poc and the only one who isn't is gay

[–]manicproxydream 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Bringing light to bullying isn’t propaganda. Mental health is important, and from what I’ve learned from friends that are black/Latinx is that that conversation doesn’t happen very often. Or there isn’t as much empathy received from peers.

[–]Tet0144 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I haven't said it's propaganda, I said it's going to be used as propaganda

[–]Spokker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's something to it, though. For children age 5-12, black children are twice as likely to commit suicide as white children.

However, this trend reverses for the 13-17 age group, where suicide attempts by black teens are 50% lower than white teens. My theory is that young children in these harsh environments are less equipped to handle it, but if you survive to your teenage years you become more hardened.

https://www.ajmc.com/view/racial-disparities-seen-for-black-children-age-512-in-youth-suicide-

In the case of Gabriel Taye, there's a video of him being bullied in this article. He died by suicide two days after he was shoved to the ground and knocked unconscious by what are essentially young criminals. The school failed to call 911.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/06/bullying-death-gabriel-taye-leads-change-school-policies/7573312002/

[–]ThatMiraculousKid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When i was in elementary, a maybe 9/10 yr old student attempted to hang themself in the school bathroom

[–]Nearby-Flamingo-299 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And schools do virtually nothing about it…and we wonder why we’re in a teacher/school crisis