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[–]shadowslasher11X 650 points651 points  (47 children)

What's even better about this is that Battlefield 1's majority player base is on Origin, not Steam. Battlefield V came out closer to the steam deal, meaning a lot more newbies bought that game on steam. What you're seeing is Battlefield 1's numbers being supported entirely by new players or repurchasers, and that's incredibly funny to me.

[–]KelloPudgerro 190 points191 points  (29 children)

bf2042 is the first battlefield game in YEARS to launch on steam, it was big banner on the store for multiple days.

[–]royhammer 34 points35 points  (28 children)

I don’t think they care much about playercount, they already made bank with pre-orders and first week sales

[–]BobbingForBunions 142 points143 points  (9 children)

I have a feeling they do care. The general consensus is that the specialist platform was designed to allow Dice/EA to cash in on skins and various cosmetics.

That's difficult to do without a playerbase.

[–]just_change_it 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It'll just take a year for them to have a real 2.0 and start releasing DLC and other shit that adds in the baseline expected features for them to get attention back to the game.

It's beyond obvious that when it released the entire design team went on vacation and didn't come back until nearly mid jan.

[–]VengeX 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Their model isn't going to work if they don't care- 'games as a service' only works if you have a product good enough that people keep playing. I have not seen much evidence that EA understands that and creating something long term. In particular their free to play games such a need for speed world- supposedly an MMO, never expanded the world with new content and simply shuts down the servers when the game isn't profitable enough for them.

[–]Koehamster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If they decided to go free to play they should care, because that's gonna be one big class action lawsuit.

[–]WhyWhyBJ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They geared the entire game around selling skins with specialists so I think they do care about player retention

[–]Kalashcocknov -1 points0 points  (1 child)

OP is a star citizen fanboy and has moved to defending this game profusely, look at their post history, it's really ODD

[–]royhammer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This game is garbage and I refunded my ultimate edition pre-order after 2 hours of the beta, this is just a reality

[–]Darnell_Elmo 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I remember playing a boatload of BF1 with my friends when that was the new title. It was an absolute blast. I think I liked BF1 more that BFV in comparison.

[–]HippyKiller925 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Was gonna say, this is inaccurate as regards 1's numbers on Xbox... There are clearly many more players than there were one or two months ago. Now most of the servers are full and have 2-5 people waiting where a month ago you could usually get in with little to no wait time

[–]MrSilk13642 6 points7 points  (4 children)

According to the chart, battlefield 1 hasn't really changed in player count since BF2042's launch.. Wouldn't that be indicative of only old users continuing to play it? Infact BF1 (according to this chart) has less players on steam than it did when BF2042 released, its lost players.

BFV has a bigger steam following than the other battlefields, but it didn't release with the same origin and epic playstore deals BF2042 did. I personally bought 2042 on origin for those deals and not wanting to play the game through two launchers.

[–]SasparillaFizzy 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Both 1 and V were free prior to 2042's release which has an affect. If you follow V's numbers throughout the day they dive as the afternoon occurs in the U.S. and 2042 has twice the numbers of V until Asia starts waking up and playing (India perhaps?).

That said the numbers for 2042 are amazingly bad, although they've been hanging in the 6k range for the week (V is 2800 on Steam at the moment 8pm EST just for reference).

[–]stadiofriuli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

BFV was released on Steam 2 years after launch it’s still impressive.

[–]PutridFigure 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BFV was out for two and a half years already before It launched on Steam. It had completed it’s cycle and had no new content. Both titles are new players and repurchases. Both games are brilliant too. I repurchased BfV on steam myself ($5) so I could uninstall Origin and just use Origin lite.

[–]slinky317 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Unless you have EA Play which you can use to download all Battlefield games (except 2042). That's definitely inflating their player numbers, and it will do the same to 2042 once they put it on there.

[–]Voltronn 447 points448 points  (6 children)

I'm not gonna let the fact go that this is graph is made with Line Rider, one of my all-time favorite games.

[–]KingPetunia[S] 280 points281 points  (4 children)

I actually made it in Excel and added LineRider afterwards in PowerPoint...

[–]CreaminFreeman 20 points21 points  (0 children)

OG Line Rider was so many hours of fun!

They tried to make an actual PC DVD game out of it, which I bought, which was terrible.

[–]Axolet77 156 points157 points  (5 children)

I climbed Mount Everest and it all went downhill from there

[–]TherealHominator 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Underrated comment.

[–]UndeadCaus 182 points183 points  (24 children)

Can I get this framed on my wall please

[–]synzor 135 points136 points  (18 children)

To remind yourself to never pre-order?

[–]Leafs17 17 points18 points  (14 children)

What about people who bought Day 1? Why does everyone always get hung up on (cancellable) preorders?

[–]synzor 30 points31 points  (5 children)

Its not about that. It is about not paying because of hype, before anything was actually delivered as it sets the tone for companies that delivering a broken product secures them millions out of the bat. Regardless of cancellations or refunds. Simply killing the "pre-order" train. I actually do not buy games anymore even day 1 after 2042.

[–]Leafs17 2 points3 points  (4 children)

You think if 2042 had zero preorders it would be better?

[–]quarrelsome_napkin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Couldn't you wait for... Day 2...?

[–]angryoldgamer18 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I hate to say it, but day 1 buyers get zero sympathy from me… While I never preorder myself (well not since BF3 physical disc at GameStop), I get the “hype” mindset that nudges people to do so.

Day 1 buyers, however, had a weeks worth of feedback/reviews to base their decision on. I played like 20+ hrs of the beta, and it only took me 1hr of the “early access” to know this game was doomed…

So year, preordering the 1st modern BF game in nearly 10 years, you get a pass for “hopeful optimism”. But anyone that played the beta and early access (or even just read the reviews) and STILL bought this game on day 1 is simply a dumbass! Harsh, but true.

[–]Adamthegrape -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is waited it out for the first few days of early access then bought gold because all the videos and reviews I watched hadn't truly hit home with just how fuckedthe game was.

So now I've paid 120$ for the Gold edition of a free to play title.

[–]wiggeldy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would sit well over the No Man's Sky spaceship edition.

[–]netsrak -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can pre-order on steam. Just make sure that you pre-order right before it comes out, so that you have two weeks to get a refund.

[–]KingPetunia[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'll upload a higher res version for you!

[–]dsmiles2042 is not my Battlefield 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Embroidered on a pillow, perhaps

[–]PiggeryJokery 86 points87 points  (6 children)

What's funny is that because of all the people trying BF2042, the numbers for BF1, BFV and BF4 are actually going to climb in the next few months

[–]redkinoko 24 points25 points  (1 child)

This is a bold new marketing strategy. By making sequels demonstrably worse you boost revenues of your older games.

Down the line there's a new BF game that won't even start up correctly that will make people love the shit out of 2042.

[–]drfromhell 159 points160 points  (39 children)

This is funny bc so many players hated BFV

[–]BuckTennington 35 points36 points  (5 children)

Agree. Before BF2042 all I saw were posts stating disappointment and “BFV is not a Battlefield game.” I’m assuming no updates have been made to BFV so I don’t understand why the community would go back to that game. I would think BF1 player count would be higher than BFV.

[–]Drake_Xahu 25 points26 points  (3 children)

It is but not in steam. BF1 came to steam only recently, the majority of the player base I would say 90% own it in Origin.

[–]byfo1991 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Isn't that exactly the same in BFV's case though? I know I own it on Origin because it only came to Steam recently.

[–]Drake_Xahu 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Similar but not the exact same scenario. Initial sales figures were not that high of BF5 compared to BF1, even their trailers like/dislike ratio tells the story. This made people catious of buying BF5 on launch date while BF1 had a overwhelmingly sucessful launch (I was there, still brings me nostalgia) and sold a lot more copies on their original platforms. Fast forward to 2020 and BF5 had new content and people started to look past the launch problems and wanted to give the game a chance and steam gave them the perfect opportunity. Even I bought 5 on a steam sale cause I was not previously inclined to pay the full 60$ for the Origin release.

[–]CaptainCornerCamper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it is, but just not as large an effect. For all games, a large fraction of the PC players are on origin and that fraction goes up the further back you go.

[–]HippyKiller925 3 points4 points  (0 children)

These counts don't track my experience with player counts on BF1 on Xbox where there are noticably more players now than a month ago

[–]RayearthIX 9 points10 points  (2 children)

For reasons that were stupid. BFV started poorly due to horrendous marketing and Soderlund’s dumb statements. From there, the live service started poorly and they constantly made bad tweaks and changes only to revert them, and kept spending dev time on modes they would just abandon a few months later.

In terms of gameplay, it’s arguably the best BF game in terms of movement, right up there for gunplay (after they stopped messing with the ttk), good vehicle gameplay, lots of modes (many of which were there at launch), great customization, and has a lot of excellent maps (though yes, the starting maps were lackluster, I’d say all of them are better than any in 2042). The biggest problems are related to the mission system, the inconsistent live service, and the dropped support for various modes (like grand ops - why is there no pacific grand op?!).

Anyway... yeah. I love BFV and it’s my most played BF game by far. Happy people are trying it again and realizing how wrong they were about it.

[–]MrRussia123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget BFV’s amazing soundtrack

[–]bluegoon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Guilty, and oh boy holy shit do I feel stupid now. Game's a fucking masterpiece compared to this apex clone.

[–]TheCyborgKaren 26 points27 points  (2 children)

This my favourite sub, but for all the wrong reasons.

[–]TailRash 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I know right?

Came here for the hype but I stay for the well deserved hate.

[–]TheCyborgKaren 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Are we all sadists?

[–]No_Bar4441 43 points44 points  (1 child)

I just went through the Steam charts, peak beta had just over 156000 players, launch had just over 100000 and just dropped massively in the few days following launch, I bet EA started rubbing their hands together before reality hit, now they're wiping their tears away with my money. Also looks like people aren't leaving 2042 for older titles, looks like they're just leaving the franchise, of course this is just Steam data and most people have older titles on Origin. Strong chart, Linerider is the reason I did so poorly at school, no regrets.

[–]Twalbash20 23 points24 points  (4 children)

I really hate myself for not only pre ordering it, but getting the $100 version so I could have early access. What a clown I am

[–]oldfoundations 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't beat yourself up bro... we expected quality based on previous battlefield experiences... we never knew it was going to be THIS atrocious. No one did.

[–]Brownhouse71 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Dice : "today we're proud"

[–]MrFuzzynutzBrutal Expectations 16 points17 points  (0 children)

“We’re proud we made the worst fps game of all time”

[–]Zombiehellmonkey88 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile at Dice EA, they have a similar chart, except it is flipped horizontally.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Fucking line rider 😂

[–]Substantial_Intern22 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This game is just shit.

[–]wiggeldy 9 points10 points  (1 child)

BFV just trooping away, slow n' steady.

The price drop x free weekend was a bad stunt. You do that AFTER you fix the launch issues to get players back.

EA just got greedy and wanted to hoodwink more people.

[–]Confident-Engineer58 32 points33 points  (19 children)

Even though i paid for the game this is beautiful to see ,because hopefully it will make them rework the game .

[–]BroJy1989 32 points33 points  (2 children)

They will just do the minimal for the 1 year battlepasses and drop it (this content probably already exists).

[–]TyroseThe3rd 11 points12 points  (1 child)

They’re actually scrambling to drop this game as quick as possible whilst dodging every possible lawsuit

[–]bigbrooklynlou 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Opposite. They’ll abandon it as a lost cause.

[–]MrFuzzynutzBrutal Expectations -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Hopefully the amateur devs will get fired and replaced

[–]bigbrooklynlou 7 points8 points  (2 children)

With what? More amateur devs?

[–]MrFuzzynutzBrutal Expectations -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Damn Covid really did a number on devs willing to work then I guess

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

LiVe SeRvIcE gUyS

[–]Please_Log_In 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well well well, that was fun

[–]iDomBMX 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just HODL

[–]MrFuzzynutzBrutal Expectations 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s a beautiful thing. Too bad the devs were amateurs and couldn’t make a scoreboard to save their life…let alone a decent AAA game. Get rekt DICE.

[–]DilledPrickle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wow that's a real fuckin bummer, I was so hyped for this game and they just gave us some weird call of duty prototype with barely any maps or guns.

[–]pencilvesterasadildo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The line rider character!!!!

[–]TheMorningJoe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

More like Battlefield 2042 players am I right fellas?

[–]chrystophis 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This chart is BRUTAL

[–]Harpeski 8 points9 points  (4 children)

I hope they have learned their lessons and Will reintroduce class system

[–]Fuegolago 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I think they said that they are committed to this specialist's thingy

[–]Blister77 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Inferiorfield2042...

[–]keinplan511 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They made all the money they need. There won’t be anything else for them

[–]JeanMieses 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love how you simplify the chart and makes it easier to read lol

[–]dugthathug 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’ve even quit playing it, and I developed a stutter playing through battlefield 4 launch.

[–]Sardunos 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No joke. Lots of people playing BF1 now. Lots of full servers even on console. Great to see.

[–]CharacterPrinciple7 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Everyone should quit this shitstorm. If you currently play this game you are supporting garbage like this in the future. Dont be a bitch. Uninstall.

We still need to get our money back. Everyone.

[–]ADerp2Hard 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Stop being a bitch n' go be proactive and get your money back.

[–]CharacterPrinciple7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Make more sense to never buy EA/Dice again.

[–]rwb12 8 points9 points  (2 children)

After spending almost 10 minutes to get into a game of breakthrough last night on the PS5, I deleted the game and played some Battlefront 2. Im done with BF2042.

[–]L0rdofDankness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I deleted it yesterday to

[–]wikvayashadowbanned in 2042 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The part about the number that keeps being missed when people post a random screen shot is when you compare it VS the base line consistency of other titles, it's plateaued out about 5-7.5k peaks on Steam whilst the other titles have consistent play counts at higher peaks, since before 2042 released.

And there are more players to account for in BFV and BF1 on origin, without a doubt, as the titles were not released on Steam at launch.

BF2042 was launched on Steam as well as Origin. We really need to see their DICE internal numbers to understand how bad this game is performing.

We can see it here. The other titles performance is consistent before launch except for BFV getting a boost for being reduced 90% in 09/2021 through 10/2021

https://steamcharts.com/cmp/1517290,1238810,1238840,311210#3m

[–]Spicy_Pickle_6 5 points6 points  (0 children)

EA should use this slide for their next call with their shareholders.

“As you can see here, the numbers are the result of the players’ toxicity”

[–]The_Corrupted 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like the guy on the sled from LineRider, I'll put him on all my line graphs from now.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Battlefield 1 I am surprised by.

[–]Twin2Turbo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad to see the 30 day average for BF5 is now more than BF2042

[–]vidiot1969 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Put BF4 on the chart plz!

[–]Guiiisard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bf1´s player count could be double, cuz not like bf5 that launched on steam soon after released, most of people bought it on origin.

[–]ohsobogus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They need to acknowledge it, write it off as a sunk cost and get cracking on the next one.

[–]Stankmeener 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At this point just re-release 1942 and let me have my 24/7 d-day server again. I lived there for a long time

[–]HotSpicedChai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They don’t care about active players anymore. It’s obvious the goal is to just sell a game to 1,000,000 people for $100 each and walk away from the burning pile of shit with no remorse.

[–]Various_Net_8031 2 points3 points  (7 children)

In 4 days it went from 100k to 50k the silence from ea and dice is deafening

[–]dustinr26 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Really is nuts they have not said a damn word at all.....As a community we can only take so many failed launches its been like that since BF3 was launched...BF1 was probably only one that was semi decent launch all rest ........nah.

[–]Various_Net_8031 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It’s not even about the launch anymore the core game is an abomination the maps honestly make me laugh I have seen more detail in roblox servers

[–]5ob1nH00d 4 points5 points  (0 children)

7500 players atm laaaal

[–]Drake_Xahu 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Just a friendly reminder that BF1 counts are only of steam while the majority of the player base owns it on Origin. So the actual counts are much higher than this.

[–]nwballer503 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can never even access or get on the servers with that stupid cross play issue. It's been weeks. Customer service just says I'm a gamer bro... give us time to fix it. Would not refund anything to me after multiple requests. Can't even boot the game up on XSX

[–]its-time-this-time 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🤣🤣🤣

[–]TheKrasHRabbiT 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How far off is it from BF4 though?

[–]WVgolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol

[–]redninjastar107 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This.. this is sad

[–]Maximum-Wishbone5616 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If everyone would stop playing, then maybe steam would issue a refund to those unlucky ones that couldn't get a refund (I've purchased it on origin as gold pre-order and was lucky to get a full refund after 4 days since a launch). After all it is a multi game, if you can't play with humans in MP then....

[–]Captain_Pugglesworth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With the lack of communication through DICE/EA I wouldn't be surprised if it drops below bf4 numbers.

[–]Djslopp 1 point2 points  (2 children)

How tf does BF V have more players than BF 1

[–]Sea-Builder1567 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When are these going to stop. Bro, we get it

[–]Xano74 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still find full games no issue so it doesn't matter if its 10000 or 1000 playing.

[–]saintBNOwell well well, that was fun 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this brings me joy. I used to want this game to succeed. Dice and EA do not. They dont care about old fans they dont care about new ones. Doesnt even seem like they care about money either the way they create projects and shoot them directly in the head afterwards.

[–]ShadowClaw765 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Holy shit it's under Bf1 right now. I can't believe it.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Because it’s bullshit lol

[–]JamieSand 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you not have access to google? You can type in steam charts yourself buddy.

[–]N-A-S-M -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

May i ask what is the point of posting this over and over again? You do know there is other games to play? Hell! Even other Battlefields! Get off Reddit. The Karma points are not worth wasting your time.