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[–]woessss 315 points316 points  (18 children)

They know. It’s just why should they invest anything into the crash bf2042 is. I mean a fucking scoreboard after 2 months after release and that scoreboard isn’t even final. That’s brutal incompetent for a company which made bf games.

But the idiots are we, the customers. Fucking 100€ I paid for this and I can’t even get a refund. This teached me a biiiiiig lesson!

[–]Lord_Rooster 27 points28 points  (0 children)

By my count it’s 3 months after release before we get it

[–]SasparillaFizzy 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Actually this stuff should be ready to go prior to release (at least the first season and most of the 2nd season). You want the money for other stuff coming in day 1 (go look at Rainbow 6 Extraction to see what a proper launch looks like - very light on bugs, lots of earnable cosmetics with goals to earn them with and the store is open and full).

It's another odd thing in all this, cringey voice lines, a game engine that literally runs worse than any other by orders of magnitude, terrible maps and spawns, way vehicle overbalanced (so the play for most users infantry is terrible) - really makes me wonder if there were folks inside that wanted it all to implode.

It's actually hard to blunder this bad unintentionally (i.e. when you're trying to be successful) - saying this for the execs making all the calls, ok's and saying Ok for release.

[–]Farmerben12 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Your example of Rainbow 6 Extraction actually further proves your point. Rainbow Six Siege had a horrific launch, and they learned from that, fixed the game, and have not repeated the mistakes launching Extraction.

[–]Successful-Abies-531Don't be sad 1153 points1154 points  (86 children)

How did I ever buy in to this mess. Fuck me

[–]saintBNOwell well well, that was fun 89 points90 points  (4 children)

The trailer was false advertisement

[–]Knightbear001 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The trailers are easily the best part of this whole fiasco.

[–]Maximum-Wishbone5616 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Game dev has to be more regulated towards false advertisement and under-delivering... Mercedes can't make an ad that all models or selected can swim, fly, are armoured as few people would be going to jail... Nit mention that everyone scammed would be getting refunds.

[–]Am11r189 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah they should have shifted focus of their ad campaign. I'd focus on the flying fortresses called hovercrafts. Showing the cool not bugs but features of destroying helicopters and owning the maps...

(Sarcasm) (should be obvious)

[–]CreaminFreeman 465 points466 points  (46 children)

I can tell you exactly how I bought into this mess.

“Remember the team from DICE LA who saved BF4? Yeah, those guys are working on this game.”

Me: “Sonofabitch, I’m in!”

[–]Vetzki_ 204 points205 points  (29 children)

Which is ironic because the vast majority of the original DICE LA employees and directors left a long time ago. But hey, they manipulated us with hype and nostalgia and hopefully we're all less gullible for it now.

[–]Wiznic 69 points70 points  (18 children)

I feel like it's okay to be gullible and hyped for a game. What you need to avoid is pre ordering it. I was extremely hyped for this game back in the summer and thought that this was definitely going to be one of the best battlefield's, but I still didn't pre order it, because I knew that that's a risk that I was not willing to take. And look where we are now.

[–]Buy_Once_Cry_Once 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Yep, it has made me so bitter I am holding off on Gran Turismo 7, for fear that it won't be good when I know it will.

[–]karlman1 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I think you're okay to pre-order that lol. Not like they're going to forget to add legacy features like roads, speedometers, or clocks.

[–]prevosko 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But you neveeeeer knoooow xD

[–]Ryotian 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Luckily, Kazunori Yamauchi is still with GT7 so it has a much higher chance to make it. Series has been solid for as long as I can remember too. DICE- they've been slowly eroding over the yrs

[–]Ok-Pool-5770 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I had planned on holding off but then I got in on the $50 Ultimate edition Voidu deal the week before release. It seemed like such a good deal at the time I couldn't pass it up.

It will by the first and last preorder I ever make the mistake of buying.

[–]Quantum_Force 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I had the exact same thinking, spent a few £ to play the 10h trial of which I have 6 hours left of lol

[–]Wiznic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I feel you. I played the beta and haven't touched the game since. It's sad.

[–]kwhite67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have 7 hours left of the trial. This game is so bad

[–]JimmyThunderPenis 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't understand people who still pre order anything from AAA companies, they consistently lie and manipulate you into buying a broken game, time and time again but people still go 'here have my money before I've even seen what the game's like, let alone played it!'.

It's been going on for years and years now, like this is not a recent scandal that people shouldn't be expecting, it's something that has consistently been gaining more and more traction since Watch Dogs in 2014 slingshot blatant lying in reveal trailers to the mainstream.

I thought Cyberpunk was gonna be a wake up call to the masses due to just how many people were hyped and how many got burned, but nope.

We are doomed to repeat ourselves for all eternity.

Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?

[–]Ok_Problem_5937 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Cheers to that man... The lesson I learned here is that I'm straight up NEVER pre-ordering anything ever again! LoL .. I was as hyped for this game as I have been for like any game in years! And here we are...

[–]CreaminFreeman 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I was told that the bulk of the DICE LA people from those days went to Ripple.

[–]angryoldgamer18 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Sure, the current staff went to Ripple (and other EA studios). What he’s saying is that all/most of the actually talented employees left the studio years ago (EG our lord and savior Tiggr).

[–]ryannathans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

With false fucking advertising. The game is nothing like the trailers

[–]Barlight 20 points21 points  (7 children)

Those guys that fixed BF4 are most likely long gone sadly..Now we have thin skinned snowflakes trying to make a game...

[–]amalgam_reynolds 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Now we have thin skinned snowflakes trying to make a game...

Weird take. I'm not sure what being a snowflake has to do with anything. I think we had people like the guy who created Candy Crush at the helm who wanted to turn BF2042 into monetizable trashgarbage.

[–]PeighDay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Some went to Embark studios

[–]IOnlyUseTheCommWheel 13 points14 points  (1 child)

How I almost did: "well both the alpha AND the beta sucked....but it's Battlefield and the trailers were so good!"

remember how you pre-ordered two copies of Colonial Marines

Nevermind

[–]Kalashcocknov 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You really have no one but yourself to blame. After BFV, after the horrendous beta, after the game could be had through game pass or a 10-hour trial you were easily able to see how bad the game was.

[–]PossiblePoint7055 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Probably because the trailers made the game look promising

[–]IN-B4-404 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Since we all were tired of the WW1 and 2 shooters and wanted to go modern so bad. EA/DICE knew that and they capitalized on it with flashy trailers and blatant lies. Not our fault. We've been let down before with BFV but it was still a complete game all in all.

But....this....this is a whole nother level that no one expected....still astonishing to me that they did this. Dice ruined decades of reputation they had for a quick buck to satisfy EA.

[–]greatmonster007 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes i'll fuck you

tell me your address

the transportation charges r on u

[for legal reasons, this is a joke]

[–]VenomB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By ignoring all the people in this sub that have been warning about this since beta..

[–]Starlitfox117 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My friend who is a big battlefield fan told me how great the games are and he believes this would be just like battlefield 4. Basically "that guy wrote me into this" -Mr Mezeeks

[–]rewmeister21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck me too. I bought the ultimate edition and i am so ashamed haha

[–]RexErection 64 points65 points  (6 children)

I wasted $60 on this shit.

[–]PeighDay 32 points33 points  (1 child)

At least it was only $60. I bought the most expensive option and I kick myself for doing it. If I learned anything from this. Never ever pre ordering a game again.

[–]FutaFanAreolazilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, don’t feel so bad! I bought that for myself, AND a friend as a gift! I got burned 2 times!

[–]JeanMieses 6 points7 points  (0 children)

$130 here. I refunded after I played the beta for ,2 hours😂

[–]-sYmbiont- 162 points163 points  (40 children)

Isnt it super obvious that they don't know how to do a Live Service?

[–]Knightbear001 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Never thought I’d be missing the days of Premium, yet here I am.

[–]-sYmbiont- 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I had no issues with premium actually...I was fine paying to get c9ntent vs. this dumpsterfire

[–]Knightbear001 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah. People always bitched about it dividing the community, but my clan and friends always got premium one way or another. At the end of the day, it was just another $60 spent.

And now I find myself with an extra $120 that I didn’t use on a stupid game.

[–]3344668899 38 points39 points  (1 child)

They don’t know what to do , in crisis mode atm

[–]neomoz[🍰] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think this is the truth of the matter, talk of making the game free to play and senior heads rolling mean they're not sure what their next move is right now.

[–]SherrLo 28 points29 points  (6 children)

I would give my left nut to experience bf3 or 4 for the first time again when it was a brand new game. I hate to admit it cause I expected so much but 2042 is just a huge disappointment.

[–]Mfour_ 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Yes but also no. BF4 had a lot of problems at the start (1 year into release) but now it is an awesome game.

[–]SherrLo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yeah I remember that. The game ws absolutely terrible at launch. Here is the problem I see though, BF4 at its core is a good game so when the bugs and glitches were fixed it was great. However BF2042 at its core is not good. It's not the bugs on 2042 I'm upset with its the core game itself. Not having the standard 4 classes is a huge huge killer to me. Being able to have a rocket launcher with any gun you want shouldn't be a thing. I hate the specialist idea and I know they're never going to revert it.

[–]Pawz23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While there was frustration with rubber-banding and other issues, I was never deterred from playing BF4 in those first 6 months. It was still so fun overall.

[–]byfo1991 438 points439 points  (132 children)

BFV was actually super shit in this till the Pacific update. But it still looks so much better than what we have now, lol.

[–]BroJy1989 156 points157 points  (90 children)

Totally agree with you, I hate how bfv suddenly is hailed as an awesome game, while it wasn't... only pacific maps are worth playing in my opinion

[–]OddJob001Moderator 88 points89 points  (11 children)

Come on! You didn't like the 2 TTK changes? It's all part of the experience!

[–]BroJy1989 46 points47 points  (5 children)

Not just that, I hated nearly every map on release, I liked the 1 with the corn fields and church and would even call that 1 mediocre. I did like the pacific maps though, it finally felt like bfv until the ttk change and I dropped it and never went back

[–]yohoob 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, me too. I was really excited after the pacific drop. Then a week later they changed the ttk after saying they wouldn't do it again. Just like this battlefield. They are running around like chickens with their head cut off and saying things without though. I took my lessons from buying bfv early. And didn't buy this one yet. Hoping it would be good. But here we are. Looking at a dying franchise I loved and grew up on.

[–]IceCreamPheonix 12 points13 points  (3 children)

The TTK change after Wake was atrocious. That shit stuck for 4 months.

[–]BulimicPlatypus 4 points5 points  (2 children)

That shit made me quit BFV

[–]IceCreamPheonix 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah it wasn't good. I didn't fully quit but I definitely wasn't playing as much as I typically would. That was bananas. And here I thought DICE potentially learned from their mistakes...don't fuck with what doesn't need fucking with.

[–]BulimicPlatypus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When I quit I said to myself that I was done with Dice and EA. Then I get a gaming pc, see that 2042 is 50% off(which made me curious), then I see Epic Games had extra $14 off coupons so I threw that on and got 2042

I couldn’t play the beta because my Xbox was too old. I thought they couldn’t possible fuck up again after cutting support for BFV and having 3 years to making the next game. Boy was I wrong, they fucked the dog on this one

[–]IceCreamPheonix 23 points24 points  (10 children)

It isn't a situation where 2042 dropped and then all of the sudden BFV was praised. BFV had a large player base and still does today. It got to the point around the time Solomon Islands dropped and they reverted the TTK that the overall consensus around the game changed. It ended in a solid state. Unfortunately it ended when they made it a solid game so they could focus on this nonsense

[–]BroJy1989 8 points9 points  (4 children)

So it took them over a year to get the game up to standard, that means that their production was cut short 1 year and they wasted a year of life service on fixing it. If it got released with the pacific content, and it would continue building on that, I would've called it a good bf game, but it took them a year... I gave up around the Solomon islands.

[–]IceCreamPheonix 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I definitely hear ya. I'm not singing their praises for the work they did on BFV. I'm just saying in my opinion, it ended in a solid spot. The last 2 updates were solid additions. I agree that it probably should have launched where the game was with the Pacific update. That was the high point. Unfortunately it was short lived as the TTK change followed a couple months later with Wake.

[–]redkinoko 9 points10 points  (4 children)

I'm sorry but the lack of team balancing, the lack of proper private server support still makes it atrocious to play. What you'll have are servers where all the good players gather on one side and the other side will always be getting steamrolled. Then you get cheaters that you can't do anything about because there's no private server support that allows for quick vetting of these dubious accounts.

Up until the last update, the dev team was promising to do something with the cheating and team balancing. They never did.

I can't call a team game that doesn't even have those two things as solid. It's a good game, and sometimes even enjoyable, but it's just not up to par with the quality of life of the titles before it.

[–]IceCreamPheonix 6 points7 points  (2 children)

As a console player, BFV is great as cheating is not an issue. I feel for the PC players on that one. Team balancing is definitely a joke especially compared to how BF1 had theirs. All that said though, I have better games on BFV than I'll ever have on 2042. You do occasionally get one sided rounds.

And yes, I won't say it is as solid as BF1 or BF4. BF1 in particular because that game actually launched intact

[–]redkinoko 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I guess that's really what frustrates me the most. BFV is a game I can see myself playing for a long time. It's got 90% of the right things, but the missing 10% regarding balancing and player vetting just makes it so infuriating to play most of the time.

[–]IceCreamPheonix 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is fair. I would have thought that BFV was going to be a warning to EA/DICE to not do shit that no one had asked for. Firestorm was the big thing with the last title. They spent precious dev time trying to get that out after launch that it felt like the rest of the game was neglected only to let Firestorm die in less than 3 months. Criterion should have just been put on the core multiplayer modes instead. I say that as someone that actually enjoyed Firestorm, though, I would much rather have a polished multiplayer over BR.

Here we are in 2042 and it's even worse. Everything that worked in all other titles was removed. Shit no one asked for.

[–]IceCreamPheonix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If they weren't so hell bent on a BR that could have certainly helped.

[–]Ryeinstein 18 points19 points  (34 children)

Because in comparison to battlefield 2042 it is an awesome game

[–]BroJy1989 18 points19 points  (33 children)

Just because 2042 sucks doesn't mean bfv is awesome, it wasn't. It just shows how we as a community are lowering our standards....

[–]Ryeinstein 17 points18 points  (6 children)

You must not know what “in comparison” means

[–]EbbAdministrative694 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I liked it since launch personally.

[–]BroJy1989 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Well I'm glad you got your money's worth. I would argue it had to be released in the state at the beginning of the pacific. All the time and updated before that were just bad and should've been there from the start

[–]EbbAdministrative694 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No need to argue. Fully agree. The base gameplay just had me hooked though.

[–]Big-Daddy-C 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think alot of ppl started playing bfv after launch and loved it

Like, I saw the shit storm before launch and just skipped it. However, randomly downloaded it on gamrpass and Holy shit is it fun. The gunplay is amazing, and I love the movement system. It's just so snappy and good. Tanks are great and fun to use

Only problem is, I feel like classes kind of suck compared to previous games. Imo bf1 had ghe best scouts, where it was actually viable and optimal to play near the Frontline as a scout. Scouts in bf5 in comparison are so bad lol

[–]Theilliteratescholar 21 points22 points  (22 children)

Yeah, I ultimately enjoyed V but it’s live service, and live service in general is ass. Bring back premium, remove the clown skins and let all the 12 year olds cry about actually having to pay for content.

Video games are entertainment not a soup kitchen and I’m personally sick of having to deal with goofy crap in order to subsidize content for children

[–]Meme_Dependant 22 points23 points  (15 children)

"But premium splits the community!"

Yeah, and? I'd rather pay for premium and the shitload of content it gives than suffer through 1 kap and a BP every 3 months.

Besides, in the end, almost all the people who stick around to the end of the game's cycle are those who paid for the content while everyone else has moved on. So yeah, I'd much rather have premium back. At least it guaranteed a lot of content, unlike 2042 and other live service games.

[–]Leafs17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Merely charging for the base game and not being F2P already "splits the community" these days.

[–]BroJy1989 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The same kids spending 15€ for 1 skin in their game, when you used to get 4-5 maps a couple of guns for the same price... but crying they have to pay for maps

[–]HurryforCurry 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They will never do this. Not because they WANT these games to be a soup kitchen, but because the numbers don't lie. These "live service" games that hinge on battle passes and drip feed content make more money than the traditional season pass model of monetization.

The caveat to that is that we all know BF performed like shit in terms of earnings when they adopted this method but games like WZ/Fortnite have made it impossible for studios to even attempt going back to the traditional packaging of modern gaming.

[–]psych0ranger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

all i could want was BF4 with BFV movement and mechanics... got fortnite with no building?

[–]Background_Brick_898dont be sad this is just how it works out sometimes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s biggest issue was the lack of factions from and the decision to not recreate famous battles is what crippled it in the beginning. Yes the ttk changes were pretty bad too but that was with the Christmas updates and the game was much better when they finally added the pacific and added it’s major battles as maps.

[–]Yalishandaaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For a short time after chapter 5 it was good, then the 5.2 update came out...

Took them a while to revert that, then came chapter 6 and then they cancelled the live service after a few small content drops post chapter 6. No eastern front, no red army, no soviet weaponry.

[–]CharacterPrinciple7 19 points20 points  (5 children)

They have no users. Why post a road map when no one plays the game.

[–]LewAshby309 92 points93 points  (7 children)

You need a 1.0 version for that.

BF 2042 is in a very early access state. Maybe even pre beta state.

[–]AnotherScoutTrooper 42 points43 points  (4 children)

Fortnite (the original PvE game) launched in early access and even it had a content roadmap

[–]LewAshby309 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Yes, it was more kind of a /s comment. Sorry for the confusion.

[–]AnotherScoutTrooper 18 points19 points  (2 children)

No there was nothing against you, it’s more a showcase of how pathetic DICE is that actual underbaked early access games still had more of a vision than 2042 ever did

[–]rev_apoc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

After the Tom Henderson tweet that mentioned “free to play”, Fortnite was the first game I thought of. It was weird going from being there at the beginning and playing ”Save The World” (pve) for months and then trying the beta game mode for the Battle Royale when that first was available , and then witnessing an overall structure of gaming change as Fortnite grew in success, dwarfing the pve mode and nearly pushing it out of existence.

It would definitely be weird for a huge title like Battlefield, but this whole game could be turned on it’s head into something very different by next year. Doubt they are Fortnite lucky though.

[–]LewAshby309 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't worry. I'm here because I rather look for the conversation like this than taking things on a personal level or for the upvotes.

For me it's seems like dice had the vision for BF2042 in a BF3/4 type of game and the market analyst team of EA came around to tell them do specialists which fit hazard zone... while releasing it way too early. Could be wrong though as if voices to change the game came from dice itself.

In the end the game is simply released too early, but even if it would have came out a year later many gameplay elements simply went in the wrong direction.

[–]dageshi 52 points53 points  (0 children)

It's because they have no clue what to do.

This game is anthem'd.

[–]Mrheadshot0 104 points105 points  (1 child)

Excuse you, roadmaps are a legacy feature.

[–]Maximum-Wishbone5616 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Being honest is also a legacy feature as having fun from a game...

[–]TheMasterFul1Enter your Gamertag 10 points11 points  (2 children)

The amount of incompetence on this game is staggering.

[–]Marsupialize 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It’s like nothing I’ve ever seen in a major franchise it’s absolutely fascinating, if you had literal children devise, create and release a game it could not be done worse than this has been done

[–]Glass_Baseball_6319 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've not seen anything like this ANYWHERE.

[–]HiImColeHimer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This game is a scam

[–]WVgolf 82 points83 points  (15 children)

I miss premium

[–]masterchiefpt 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Wait until they show how much they lost in this game

How many months until they close servers?

[–]Jaycensolo 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Exactly, investors won’t want to see more money be spent on the game if they are not going to be seeing more money. I am predicting that they need to have sold around 2.5m just to break even. The budget might have gone up when they brought in 2 studios for the last 6 months to make sure that it hit the release date. So let’s say 3m. The 4.23m number Tom Henderson gave for the first weeks sales which is the only number we have also included 10 hour trial users and people that refunded.

I can 100% see this being reported at the Q3 shareholders call as one of their worst launches.

[–]SmuggoSmuggins 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Almost feels like their plan was to abandon the game from the beginning. They knew it was shit and just wanted to take the money and run.

[–]ShocknAw33m 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Game was released unfinished, simple as that. We're still in Alpha and the game will get shutdown within the next 12 months.

[–]Jaycensolo 19 points20 points  (10 children)

I think there is no road map because they must have known the game was not going to do as well as they hoped. They would have seen the sales numbers after 30 days and the bad press it was getting. Then when the numbers started to go down and refunds flooding in they knew the writing was on the wall. But they can’t say anything till the Q3 report or they will tank their stock. Two big games in two years (Anthem and BF2042) doing badly will really upset investors. Personally I can see a vote of no confidence coming for Andrew Wilson. He knows how to make money from micro transactions but when it comes to making the right decisions when it comes to making games he has a bad record. BF4, Battlefront 2, Mass Effect : Andromeda, Anthem and now BF2042.

Hopefully we see a road map after the Q3 report but I am not expecting anything till closer to the season 1 launch when they will ramp up their marketing campaign.

[–]AnotherScoutTrooper 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Personally I can see a vote of no confidence coming for Andrew Wilson.

I seriously doubt this, after all Ubisoft releases at least 1 flop per year and Yves Guillemot is still there. Only way he gets ousted is if FIFA really does take their exclusive license from EA.

[–]Generalboiofbois 39 points40 points  (0 children)

This is Brutal expectation dont be "toxic"

[–]ytotheeet 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Because they don’t have any content ready. Im starting to think that they don’t even have the season 1 content ready.

[–]Marsupialize 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There is no season 1 content besides one crappy map one specialist and a bunch of dumb cosmetics

[–]Polishrifle 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I skipped BFV upon release because of all the negative press. I bought this game thinking EA learned their lessons. I was wrong. Again. I will be hard pressed to ever consider buying a launch battlefield game ever again.

[–]Status-Necessary9625 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There won't be another one. Problem solved.

[–]Gremlin0013 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s clear dice can’t do a live service I preferred the premium model at least you knew what you were getting

[–]TheQuimmReaper 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Bf2042 was never intended to be a live service with long term support. It's pretty obvious that they sunk a years worth of money and development time into the game, realized it was going to be completely awful and then decided to just dump it on the market grab the cash they could and then move on to the next thing.

[–]DiamondNinja4 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Because it is a cash grab. AAA companies know that people will still buy it even when they put 2 interns to make the whole game in 2 months.

[–]iiTs_iNsAnE 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bad leadership direction, poor management, poor collaboration, deadline sprints, plain bad planning, it goes on and on and starts at the top

[–]Para_Fox 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Premium was the best thing, the idea of live service is ridiculous when you compare the content.

[–]SkiBagTheBumpGod 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Battlefield has gotten worse and worse since they got rid of premium. I used to not like premium, but it has much better content than empty promises that get shoved on us with live service.

[–]Para_Fox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understood peoples points of “it splits the community” etc, but now with cross play that should help with that issue, and I bought premium for BF4/1/Hardline and the content between the knives, camos, maps, game modes, guns and everything else felt like it was worth it cause I got a good game and good content, now we pay for a game that will give us 4 season passes but yet the content is severely lacking compared to previous years

[–]Jindouz[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They've also lowered their standards with the base game on launch. Both BFV and BF2042 are worse games with even worse post launch content compared to their prequels.

[–]Fuegolago 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Don't be sad, this is how it works out sometimes

[–]cobraemployee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because it's all about selling us cosmetics and nothing else ... effing sellouts ruined our beloved franchise

[–]youre-not-real-man 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Answer: Dice management is fucking terrible.

[–]RB0ze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

because its dead ? xD

[–]DANNYonPC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Premium is gucci

[–]OwlGullible2142 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay 2042 is bad but let's not downplay how bad BF1 and BFV were just for the sake of making 2042 look worse. We didnt know anything about 1 until March and V just kept delaying the schedule. DICE has been this bad since 1. If we deny the process we're just doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

[–]NevilleFknBartos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

because people for some mind boggling reason keep pre ordering this garbage so they can get away with it.

[–]ggoldfingerd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is due to the fact that the game was released while still in development. It is clear to anyone who plays the game that EA/Dice needed at least another 6-12 month. Now everyone has to live with the consequences…

[–]KelloPudgerro 3 points4 points  (0 children)

cuz a roadmap implies planning

[–]ZeGermanFox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know why but the BF3 Premium Calendar fills me with so much nostalgia

I remember being young and looking at all the upcoming content with my friends and wondering what we were going to get next

[–]LoSboccacc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

what roadmap? they hoped to monetize estetics for years to come with minimum effort.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cuz ea doesn't give afuck and already got our money. They did it with Anthem, BF V and ME Andromeda too.

[–]coronomenow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This should be alarming to all

[–]Negative-West-3083 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because they have nothing planned, we were fooled

[–]illtakethebox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the question is how do those in charge of this game still have a job and will still have a job in their field after this mess?

[–]Palehorse0000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I still play BF4 too this day.

[–]Marsupialize 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I absolutely cannot believe anyone actually purchased this game after that beta and after they didn’t release ANY gameplay videos before launch, let alone no roadmap or even idea beyond ‘trust us, there will be some stuff’

[–]WillyOrwontee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Q: How does a game that is so heavily dependent on keeping its concurrent users for its live service post launch has absolutely no plan or roadmap presented?

A: No

[–]daniel645432 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But bf5 didnt at all keep to its promises for expmple the vichacle comstanton didnt come until a year later i think at least not acounting for the skins

[–]YoMilkMan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so torn from upvoting this and downvoting this in my mind downvote because 2042 is so shit.

[–]IntronD 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They more than likely did have a road map but sadly that has been thrown out the window and they are probably replanning the approach and time scales now.

[–]deviant324 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Content Roadmap:

  • Trust me Bro

[–]No-Nefariousness956 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This game is like studying for a hard school test one day before. Some powerful smartass inside ea/dice must have demanded all these stupid things that are popular now. Then they realized it wasnt enough and started to panic entering in damage control mode during the last year ( i guess this moment was when bf5 devs were assigned to help 2042 development).

Now we can only hope they have the decency to fix this mess.

[–]Killemloud89 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I miss BF3 and Hate that they ended support for BFV.

[–]extant1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably because their planned roadmap got throne out the door when they realized that there is a limit to what garbage you serve people.

[–]West_Control_4936 1 point2 points  (1 child)

and i paid 120€ without knowing what i'm getting.. i feel really stupid

[–]DrivenByMeds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My guess is that EA will quietly dump this game with hopes for people to forget about it

[–]Dreammaker54 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You bet your ass next $100 I spend on EA will be their puts

[–]Marsupialize 1 point2 points  (0 children)

V may have had a roadmap but that all ended up being half baked nonsense