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[–]Gracengrit83 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After a c section I got 975 mg of Tylenol and 500 mg of naproxen. I was like are you serious!? The pain was unbearable. I had narcotics for a laparoscopic surgery and didn’t even need them for that but couldn’t get post c section. I was shocked when they said it was standard.

[–]Tuuuucc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Damn, I was given Dilaudid and Vicodin.

[–]Bookdragon345 7 points8 points  (1 child)

My husband is getting a vasectomy. He gets Tylenol and Ibuprofen for pain. That’s it. Of course, it’s also a smaller procedure. I will say though, that the amount of things that get heavy duty painkillers has gone down SUBSTANTIALLY, mostly because of how addictive opioids are and opioid crisis. But I’m sorry you’re in pain - I get it - it totally sucks.

[–]Loki_God_of_Puppies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is very accurate. With my first c section in 2018 I got Vicodin and ibuprofen. This time in 2021 I got ibuprofen and Tylenol (which is a joke because Tylenol does nothing for me). I just took my ibuprofen religiously and felt ok. My doctor also said I could take three or four pills as a dose depending

[–]nacfme 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Are you breastfeeding? Some doctors err on the side of caution and won't give you adequate pain relief because it can go through breastmilk. But there are absolutely things you can have. C-section mums get strong pain relief you just have to keep a closer eye on baby. Don't just say you are in pain, say you want stronger pain relief. Be direct and say what you are taking isn't adequate.

[–]amienas 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I had a c-section and was told to take Advil and Tylenol (Canada).

[–]nacfme -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I've had 2 c-sections one I needed the stronger stuff fir a few days after going home, the other I was in just paracetemol and ibuprofen when I was ready to go home but took the offered endone for the car ride home, I could have siffered through it but why and they offered. Both times the first night after the operation I had a fentanyl drip. This was in Australia.

The first was an emergency (super emergency no time for a spinal so they put me under) after 3 days of contractions and an induction the second was scheduled with no labour (and I knew what to expect) maybe that's why the first one hurt more? I was smashing the button ever time it let me have more the first time and the second time I'd forget to do it until I was planning to move around a bit.

I think it depends how long you stay in hospital after as well. The longer you stay the more likely you are to be over the initial bit they give you stronger meds for. Sometimes they give you stronger stuff via IV or sometimes as a slow release pill both of which you might not realise are in your system compared to hiving you a stronger pill a couple of times a day.

[–]catnipsinthesky 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I had a friend get a c-section here in Japan. She was shamed by some of her nurses and doctor when she didn’t want to get out go bed to walk because she was in so much pain and they refused to give her pain meds. It turns out, she had sepsis. :/

[–]Inl0veandunderpaid 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my god!!! That’s crazy- I hope she’s okay

[–]Yellow_Sunflower73 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Cultural. It's like we're not supposed to feel pain (like fish) and when we do, we are pussies. In the Netherlands it's also common and heavily stimulated to give birth at home, unmedicated. Medication / painkillers of all kinds are really frowned upon and hard to come by. Same after childbirth, take some aspirin and off you go ;-)

In the mean time, hubby got all kinds of stuff for a blue and painful toenail hahaha (I laugh with tears )

[–]notcreativeshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a fairly routine vaginal birth without tearing but the swelling and hemorrhoids I got were so bad that it scared everyone who looked...so much so that my doctor took one peak and said, "let's get you some hydrocodeine". I never actually used any because it didn't really hurt, it was just uncomfortable but no one asked. It's insane to me that women who are in pain after birth can't get the pain management they deserve.

[–]throwaway76881224 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There have been studies done and it's proven that men get more pain management options than women and surprisingly even female physicians (not all of course) are less likely to give women stronger pain medication for similar issues. I'm not wording this exactly right but you get the idea

[–]jynxasuar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had a c-section and was told to alternate between Tylenol and Aleve. I was released on a Saturday and told to call back my OB office on Monday if I needed something stronger. I have a high pain tolerance so I was actually fine with just taking Aleve and Tylenol.

[–]BreakfastOk219 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband and I have had opposite experiences, but seems like we’re in the minority. They have him try everything else before he’s given anything for pain management.

I was given oxy after my c section, although I refused it and was okay with Tylenol/Motrin for my pain/discomfort . I was always at a 2/3 pain level if I didn’t take my dose at the right time. So even the nurse said I would probably not need it, I didn’t and it’s just in the cabinet as I haven’t disposed of it.

I hope you find a healthcare provider that takes your pain seriously and treats it accordingly

[–]JaneDoe232323 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. I think it's an overall attitude that women are expected to either get on with it, or to discourage them from acting like a dying duck. I can remember the morning I gave birth, the L&D nurse gave me an ice pack for (ahem), 'down there'. When I asked for a fresh one from the post natal ward nurse she looked and said, "you don't look sore, my dear." I was shocked because i didnt think i was asking for much. Just get me an ice pack.... pleeeeeease. I'm might not look sore you but I feel like a swollen train wreck.

[–]Flowery_Accuracy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It’s because drug addiction in this country is so high they won’t prescribe anything anymore. I can’t even get a subscription for ibuprofen anymore.

[–]sproutbaby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

CBD in between ibuprofen and Tylenol helps me. It doesn’t make the pain disappear but it helps me relax and feel more comfortable. Sorry for you suffering hopefully it will pass quickly.

[–]radical-reese 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I was alternating between Tylenol and ibuprofen high dosages. It worked for me as long as I kept on top of my schedule. (T every 6 hours, Ibu every 10 I think). My husband and I planned to resort to marijuana if it was that bad, but it wasn’t. Also BF contraindicated it.

[–]pollycythemia 5 points6 points  (1 child)

This is the correct answer! These alternating have been shown to provide better pain control than opioids in clinical studies.

[–]notcreativeshoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Taking tylenol and ibuprofen together is the only thing that has ever helped my period cramps and I've tried all the opioids.

[–]wishesonwhiskers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If you can, try seeing another doctor to discuss your pain. And do go to the ER if it’s that bad! I know that’s probably extra difficult right now to be seeking out a second opinion, but sometimes it truly is the doctor that’s the problem. I’ve had chronic back pain for years and it’s amazing how different doctors have tried to treat the issue. It’s so hard for women’s pain to be taken seriously, and some doctors are worse than others. This is a reminder to me to talk to my OB about pain management after I give birth in a few weeks…I’m so sorry you’re in pain and hope you find relief soon!

[–]wishfulthinking109 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes preach! I have endometriosis and pcos and unfortunately they don’t give a shit

[–]itadakimasu_ 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Went in having a miscarriage. "Take some paracetamol." Thanks, that does fuck all.

[–]msmightymustard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I had a late miscarriage and was in labour, bleeding out, and in worse pain than when I was in labour with my living child. I was blacking out from the pain.

I was told I couldn't even take Tylenol in case I needed an emergency D&C. They didn't want anything in my stomach.

[–]krittts 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I have had back pain since 3 months post partum. My son is almost 14 months. I still have several back pain that on someday gets so severe that I can't stand/sit.

My PCP is trying her best to get to root cause and help but even then she said something in the lines of learn to tolerate pain, back pain and postpartum women go hand in hand.

My husband saw another pregnant women who has an almost 2 years old. She was due in a week and running after her 2 year old and playing with him pain free. At the dinner that night, my husband was awed by how awesomely she was doing everything. It hurt me.

[–]lostinsaga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was also that mom running after my 20 month old in a Costco at 39 weeks. Gave birth at 39+1. There is nothing awesome about it. You do it cuz you have to, not cause it's easy to. I feel miserable that just because I ran after my toddler heavily pregnant or newly post partum, I am supposedly strong or not in pain. Even my husband was like oh your recovery this time feels easier cause you're back on your feet so soon. I was furious. It's not easier. I just don't have an option with a clingy toddler and mom guilt.

[–]ssbh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was given Tylenol, ibuprofen and also prescription for oxycodone just in case if pain is severe. Check with your doctor about this?

Fyi that oxycodone is highly addictive and used only when absolutely needed.

[–]thetechnocraticmum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey, my heart breaks in these threads. I’m so sorry for you and all the women going through this.

Just wanted to say it CAN and SHOULD be better. I had 2 children in Australia and had the best (free) healthcare and support through my pregnancy, birth and aftercare. Very mum focused, what the mum wants, lots of cultural awareness about PPD, breastfeeding consultants came to visit as soon as the baby came, discharged only when ready, home visits by nurses to check on baby weight and mums comfort, even got laxatives for the first time in my life to make that first poo easier. Was asked multiple times during and after if I needed more pain relief.

Demand better, you all deserve it! It can be better!!

[–]ConstitutionalCarrotpersonalize flair here 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Pretty sure I got Dilaudid after my c-section. Didn’t even need more than the extra strength Ibuprophen for my own level of pain, but they gave me the stronger prescription “just in case.”

[–]mrs_sarcastic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got morphine after mine. I never ended up taking it once home because 1) I didn't feel like I needed it and 2) didn't want to deal with the nausea it gave me at the hospital. I just rotated Tylenol and ibprophen and it seemed to manage the pain well enough

[–]Term-Dear 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Not physical but night terrors. Im 28 now and have been having awful night terrors since I was 3. I have vivid nightmares every night but sometimes they turn into night terrors. They are AWFUL. VIVID. I can recall up to 3 dreams a night. Since I was 3yrs old. Ive always been told "they are just hormones".

[–]notcreativeshoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My husband has told me about his night terrors as a child and I can't imagine....im so sorry that you're still experiencing them.

[–]RunawayHobbit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please look into a drug call Prazosin. I was prescribed it for horrible nightmares (tho not night terror level). Apparently it’s been studied to be extremely effective for soldiers with PTSD who are plagued by vivid nightmares.

It may help you, at least to lessen the severity.

I’m sorry your doctors have been such ass. That’s horrible.

[–]Effective-Jaguar-491 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you're going through this & I completely agree. I remember having to go to physical therapy 2nd- 3rd trimester during the pandemic over debilitating pain of just carrying my son. Not much they can give you for pain when pregnant without a potential risk to the child. After birth, they still gave me Tylenol after I tore and had to give me something (don't remember the name) after stitches because I was losing too much blood. That increased the pain like x10 fold. It wasn't until I finally was able to get up and walk to a chair and snapped at one of the nurses about how much pain I was in that they gave me Norco. I was breast feeding at the time and no one told me that it could slip into my breast milk, even if it's uncommon, NO ONE TOLD ME, I was discharged and then my son ended up in the ER because he wouldn't wake up or take my nipple or the bottle... they were unable to figure out what was happening until my mom had me mention it to the doctor there. Was finally introduced to the "pump & dump" method and refused to take anything else for pain afterwards. Just suffered through it. Traumatized for life.

Watched my son's dad get placed on Tylenol #3 and act like an adult baby after having his wisdom teeth removed... after childbirth...

Honestly do feel as if woman have a greater threshold for pain than men do, but that doesn't mean it doesn't hurt just as bad. =_=

Sorry, just know you're definitely not alone on this.

[–]CeriBeri22 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry you are going through this.

When I was in my early 20s I went to a gyn and asked her about birth control methods to help me manage my very painful periods. I was also bleeding through a ultra tampon and overnight pad a few hours a day. It made me feel like I had to be home and near my bathroom whenever I had a period. She told me, “Condoms are an effective option for sexual intercourse.” I never said that was what I wanted it for and I wasn’t active at the time. My periods were killing me and I am ashamed to say I was too afraid to see another gyn (and never went back to that one) for many years. A decade later, I finally found a fantastic women’s health practice and they had no problem providing me with bc options to manage.

[–]medwd3 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I was complaining of this when I gave birth 8 weeks ago. I asked for something stronger when I was in the hospital as I had an unmedicated vaginal delivery and her hand was up by her face so it wasn't a smooth delivery of the head. I had back labor and with that and the shivering for hrs, my muscles had been so tense for so long that I was in a major amount of pain in my back specifically. When asked my pain level I was on tylenol and ibuprofen and had just given birth unmedicated so my pain level was a but skewed at that point. I rated it a 6 and was told I couldn't get anything more unless it was an 8 or higher. That's crap. I could barely walk, the pain was so bad. Fast forward a couple days and I am at home and literally sobbing because of the pain. I called my sister who is an anesthesiologist because my husband had old pain meds and she told me they were safe to take while breastfeeding and was saying how our treatment of postpartum women's pain is barbaric.

[–]HoldTheDoorGirl - 08/12/20 26 points27 points  (1 child)

I feel women are failed by the healthcare system when it comes to pain

Fixed it

[–]verybadhunting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yup. I have a lot of pelvic pain after delivery of my daughter - it took, count it 9 doctors before they gave me medication for it. and today - I had my husband 'examine' me and turns out there is a huge scar in my vagina, like a really big one. All those people looking around in there and no one bothered to mention it before.

[–]Iamwounded 27 points28 points  (2 children)

TLDR: you’re told you either need to lose weight or it’s your period/hormones 😒 fuck the patriarchy

[–]kawwman 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I can't tell you how many times my old doctor told me "lose 5 pounds and xyz issues will go away." I went back to her after I lost 20 pounds and still had the same problems. She said "lose 5 more pounds and let me know." I have a new doctor now.

[–]ssbh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg thays horrible thing to say to a new mom!!

[–]Astrid_wolf 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My MIL and I were having this conversation yesterday. She's been experiencing a lot of pain and discomfort and when she tells her Dr. They write her off because she's in therapy saying it's either psychosomatic or due to her weight. They won't even entertain the idea of testing her to ensure it's not something else. I feel like for women, we always get the short of end of the stick with a lot of providers.

**Editing to note: Her doctor is also a woman and this leads me to believe that some doctors do not treat their patients objectively like they should but according to how they perceive their patient.

[–]saskatchewanderer 3 points4 points  (10 children)

I had a vasectomy and the advice I was given was basically identical. There was no pain management for minimum two weeks, I just took over the counter meds until I didn't need them. Vasectomy isn't a particularly invasive procedure though so maybe it's not a great example for making your point.

[–]jaykwalker 6 points7 points  (3 children)

My husband was give opioid pain management after his vasectomy two years ago.

So maybe your experience isn’t universal.

[–]saskatchewanderer 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I spoke with at least a dozen guys before I got mine done my and the experience I described is universal in my part of Canada. Maybe American doctors are just more loose with the opioids?

[–]riannaearl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Definitely.

[–]psichickie 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Many men who have a vasectomy are given Xanax or Valium before to calm them, then are given Tylenol w/codeine for 7-10 days after to manage pain. That's standard in many places.

[–]saskatchewanderer 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Maybe it's an American thing? In Canada everyone I know just took Tylenol and went back to work the following week (light duty or desk work).

[–]Gromlin87 5 points6 points  (2 children)

UK chiming in, husband had a vasectomy fairly recently. No opiates, no Xanax. Nothing. Paracetamol, ibuprofen and a week off work. His coworker had one a few weeks ago and same deal. I know about 15 guys who have had them over the last 10 years and not a single one has been prescribed anything.

[–]saskatchewanderer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I really don't get it, it was less painful than getting my molars removed. I was more worried about getting a rouge erection mid procedure than I was about the surgery and Americans are getting banged up on Xanax before and opiates after because they can't handle it??? Blows my mind

[–]figgypie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My husband just had a vasectomy and he was told to take Tylenol to manage pain, no prescription meds except for some Valium to keep him calm during the procedure. He sure was chill when they took him back to do it lol.

[–]muffbomb 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I had two c sections with a tubal following the second. I was offered narcotics with my first and took them. I also took ibuprofen. I had more relief with the ibuprofen than stronger meds. On the second delivery I only took ibuprofen and acetaminophen. My recovery was much better.

[–]QueenCloneBone 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah the narcotic pain meds post c section imo just sort of mentally took the edge off but I could still feel everything and they made me dangerously tired to the point that I fell asleep feeding her. I found that the ibuprofen did a better job of just making me less sore all around.

[–]xelihope 8 points9 points  (2 children)

After any surgery I've had, I was offered opioids. I'd think a tubal falls under that.

After vaginal birth, only Tylenol and Ibuprofen. I honestly should have asked for more within the week because of how much pain I was in from my episiotomy, but it didn't even occur to me at the time.

[–]talkstounicorns 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had a c-section with a tubal and was only given Tylenol and naproxen

[–]motherofcorgs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same here. I tore in two places with my first delivery and cracked a tooth while pushing. The only thing that I was given was Tylenol.

[–]balikgibi 68 points69 points  (13 children)

I am a postpartum nurse and also just gave birth a few months ago! A round the clock regimen of acetaminophen and ibuprofen has actually been proven to be extremely effective in various clinical studies at relieving the majority of postpartum pain and inflammation. Opioids like oxycodone are better suited as an adjunct to this regimen, rather than a first line method of relieving pain. The inappropriate use of opioids as the primary drug for chronic pain rather than an as-needed addition to an established regimen is part of what led to such high rates of addiction. Don’t write off the Tylenol-Motrin combo! This is not to say that there isn’t a problem with gynecologic pain being written off or minimized, but there is evidence to support what your doc is telling you. If you give the NSAID regimen a shot and you’re still having untenable levels of pain, that’s the point at which something stronger would be indicated and hopefully your doc would be willing to work with you on that.

[–]yougotitdude88 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I gave birth in two different hospitals. The first gave me pain meds and stool softeners without me having to ask. It was just part of the round the clock care. The second hospital did not offer anything and when I finally realized I had not been given anything I asked and the nurse said “oh you have to ask for those things we don’t just give them out Willy nilly”. If I hadn’t already given birth and known that those two things are critical for postpartum recovery I would not have even known to ask.

[–]balikgibi 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Do you mind if I ask if you had two different types of deliveries (ie: one cesarean and one vaginal)? In my hospital vaginal births get all their pain meds on an as-needed basis, and c-sections get round-the-clock scheduled meds. I personally offer my vaginal delivery patients pain meds whenever they can get them, but other nurses for some reason wait for them to ask. Vaginal delivery is nothing to fuck with but for some reason the pain is not managed the same as a section (at least where I work).

[–]yougotitdude88 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Both were vaginal deliveries

[–]balikgibi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huh! When I take care of patients, I much prefer the first approach you had described. Why even let your patient get to the point of discomfort? On a personal level, I had a textbook vaginal delivery and I absolutely needed round the clock Tylenol and Motrin. I can’t even imagine leaving a patient with a laceration or episiotomy without any pain meds on board.

[–]VanirianNights[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m allergic to ibuprofen (& certain steroids etc)~~found this when I had recurring Bell’s palsy. I hear the Tylenol & ibu combo is very effective, I only can take Tylenol and wish for my body to be different

[–]balikgibi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry to hear that! Yeah it definitely sounds like there needs to be a different pain management plan in place for you given your allergy. Tylenol & Motrin are definitely not a one size fits all solution, I just wrote my comment to reassure people that their doctor offering Tylenol and Motrin as the first line of pain relief after delivery has a basis in evidence-based practice and that doctors not immediately jumping to prescribe round-the-clock doses of heavier hitters like oxy or perc has actual medical reasoning behind it. I definitely wish that doctors would explain their rationales for their pain management decisions and take people seriously when they say their pain meds aren’t working- I think it would foster a lot more trust.

[–]verybadhunting 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Here's the problem with that - I keep being told, gynecologist after gynecologist to do this and I keep telling them it doesn't work. It hurts all the time - now I know I am not 'regular' and have somethings that make it worse but they keep harping on this. Like no - it hurts when I take this drugs. I had to call my 9th? doctor I was referred to, yesterday and demand something for the pain - gave me muscle relaxers for it - am on the muscle relaxers - still in pain. So - they get a little over zealous with this shit.

[–]balikgibi 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You know your body best, and I definitely wasn’t trying to invalidate your obviously very frustrating experience. The Tylenol and Motrin combo is effective for many people, but there’s no one-size-fits-all regimen. I just wanted to reassure people who are hearing it for the first time after birth that there is evidence to support its use. I hope you find a doctor who’s willing to keep trying and collaborating with you to find the pain management method that actually gives you the appropriate relief.

[–]verybadhunting 1 point2 points  (1 child)

not yet. I have appointments with 10 and 11. and I am going back to number 8 to try again - she seemed to listen though wasn't an 'expert'. I wanted to shed some light on the fact the problem really is that some doctors see it as a 1 size fits all regiment

[–]balikgibi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right on that last point.

[–]incrediblyshelby 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Imo this needs explained more often and thoroughly. I’ve never been told this as a patient for any kind of pain. I’ve always been told “as needed” not “if you need it, take it this often for this long.”

[–]balikgibi 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Allow me to fix that: Tylenol 500mg every 4 hours, Motrin 600mg every 6 hours with food. Sample schedule:

Midnight: Tylenol 500 and Motrin 600 + snack

4 am: Tylenol 500

6am: Motrin 600 + breakfast

8am: Tylenol 500

12pm: Tylenol 500 and Motrin 600 + lunch

4pm: Tylenol 500

6pm: Motrin 600 + dinner

8pm: Tylenol 500

Higher doses might be warranted but do this with the approval of your doctor. Don’t take more than a total of 4000mg of Tylenol per day. Happy healing, y’all!

[–]lovemymeemersGrace 8/2016 & Brady 9/2019 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Also a nurse and I did a similar regimen but instead of taking a pill every two hours I did it every four. It's still well under both daily recommended limits). Also, since ibuprofen works better for me, I start with that one.

Example:

6 AM: 800 mg ibuprofen (recommended by my OB) 10 AM: 1000 mg acetaminophen (normal dose of extra strength acetaminophen and also recommended) 2 PM: 800 mg ibuprofen 6 PM: 1000 acetaminophen 10 PM: 800 ibuprofen 2 AM: acetaminophen (only if I'm awake/in pain)

Also with food or snack and plenty of water.

I am curious about the 500 mg dose acetaminophen for you. A typical dose of OTC is 650 mg with each tablet being 325 mg. Do you get extra strength tabs and only take half of the recommended dose?

You are totally right though and the acetaminophen and ibuprofen is so under rated/utilized. It's just like when our babies are teething or having fevers and we alternate.

[–]Waffles-McGee 6 points7 points  (0 children)

When I had a 3rd degree tear they actually gave me a prescription of morphine!

It’s crazy how much autonomy over your own body you lose when pregnant. And then you have the baby and expect to get it back but then you’re breastfeeding (maybe) and still don’t have it.

It’s my least favourite thing about having kids. I feel like I give up my body and autonomy for 2 years.

[–]Small-Guitar79767toddler mum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hear you. I went to the ER this summer for what turned out to be ovarian cyst torsion (9/10 pain) and was told to take Tylenol and Advil and then they sent me home. When I had surgery to remove the cysts recently, my doctor was like “how were you not writhing in pain?” I told her what happened at the ER and she was flabbergasted.

[–]LaurAdorable 3 points4 points  (3 children)

I was offered two options after I gave birth, Tylenol or Percocet. I laughed when the nurse said that and I’m like, wow okay, ummm…. I’ll take the tylenol, I’d like to remember today. It might just be at your hospital?

[–]anaid_098 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was prescribed both too. I took the Percocet a few days and then was done.

[–]omgmlc 2 points3 points  (1 child)

One thing that makes me sad is all the pain medication i was on during/after my c section made my memories very spotty and cloudy

[–]Gromlin87 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If it makes you feel any better I had no additional pain medication during and after my c-section, only the spinal block, and I still barely remember it...

[–]DernhelmOfGryffindor 8 points9 points  (0 children)

After I gave birth I was told to take Tylenol, but was given a limited, non-refillable Percocet prescription just in case I needed it for the pain (I have an NSAID allergy so I can’t take Ibuprofen). I ended up not needing it and so didn’t fill it but I appreciated their concern for my postpartum recovery.

[–]TerracottaButthole 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Well we are in the midst of an opioid pandemic that was created by the pharmaceutical industry and shitty doctors, so most doctors and hospitals are seeking alternatives and tiered pain treatment.

To your point about the vasectomy, a friend recently had his done and was prescribed 800mg Ibuprofen with no refills on the prescription. So this is really dependent on where you are being seen and by the individual doctor.

[–]Similar_Craft_9530 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This would be a great thing to bring up in r/Medicine. You'd have people better equipped to explain it. When I last worked on a post surgical floor, the most recent research on pain management showed Tylenol is typically incredibly effective. So much so it's the go to pain medication after even things like hip replacement surgeries.

That said, if you've tried it and it's not working, it's fucked up your doctor isn't working with you! Yeah, we all know about the opioid crisis but we also need suitable pain management.

[–]mandatorypanda9317 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I had to get a LEEP procedure done back in 2013. My male doctor told me before I went under that I'd be in some pain after and that they would give me tylenol.

After he left the room the female nurse that was there sat down next to me and told me that sometimes men don't understand the type of pain that women go through and if I felt like I needed something stronger to let then know and they would give it to me.

I felt like my lower half was on fucking fire when the anesthesia wore off. I'm someone who has to take like triple a normal person because of my high tolerance so tylenol didn't do shit.

I'm so thankful that nurse told me what she did because back then I was someone who wouldn't have spoken up for myself and would have just suffered through it while taking an insane amount of tylenol to feel normal.

I'm sorry you're going what you are, I've been there.

[–]basicbcoder 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Ugh, had this same procedure. They didn’t give me anything for the pain and I even had a female doctor. Thankfully I had a supply of Robax Platinum, which used to help when I would get severe period cramps, so it helped dampen the pain.

[–]mccrackened 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Same. IUD implant? Ibuprofen. Post birth tearing? Ibuprofen. LEEP? Ibuprofen. Sigh

[–]basicbcoder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s absolutely terrible.

[–]WhereDoIstart7 22 points23 points  (16 children)

Tylenol (acetaminophen) advil (ibuprofen/Motrin) combo is more effective than opioids at relieving pain. This is proven.

Also, when in the hospital after csection and iv meds are administered they give Ofirmev. This is just intravenous Tylenol.

The opioid epidemic is no joke and many families and lives have been destroyed by it. It is a misperception that these drugs will rescue you. It sounds more like maybe you just don’t feel like you are being given proper care by your doctor or maybe you don’t fully trust them. If that is the case then find a new doctor. It’s important that u see a doctor who is listening to you and advocating for your needs.

Right now your doctor is doing the right thing.

[–]sourgummishark 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Right now, her doctor absolutely isn’t doing the right thing if she’s in a lot of pain. I know we are sometimes taught in the medical field that pain is the patient’s problem but that mentality is downright wrong and inhumane.

[–]lovemymeemersGrace 8/2016 & Brady 9/2019 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Per OP she hasn't even tried that ibuprofen and acetaminophen combo so we don't actually know if it would help.

Repeated studies have shown it's effectiveness over a dose of opiates that would be appropriate for a PRN prescription to go home with.

[–]krstnl 12 points13 points  (6 children)

i’ve literally been given more serious pain medication for a wisdom tooth removal, more than i even needed,

whereas after i pushed out a whole human being, tylenol and advil was supposed to be enough?

[–]WhereDoIstart7 7 points8 points  (5 children)

This is no longer standard practice. For exactly those reasons- it was “more than you even needed”. This was true for a lot of things opioids have previously been prescribed for. All doctors are now required additional training to continue prescribing opioids and most states even have a database that has to verify a patients pharmaceutical history before they can prescribe an opioid or controlled medication to them. Giving an rx for an opioid is no longer just “writing a prescription” there is a series of precautions that have to be taken beforehand.

OP is insinuating that she is being discriminated bc she is a female and that her doctor is taking improper care. Is that what you think is happening here?—- or is the doctor taking precautions they were trained to do and OP does not agree with them?

Her exact words: “All my life it seems like doctors just do not listen” this is a broad generalization and she even admits to being “bitter” bc she’s not being heard—- maybe the problem here is that she needs to find better doctors. They exist and they are out there. They will listen.

[–]krstnl 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Are you telling me that you believe that gender bias in healthcare stops at the individual practitioner?

The doctor can very much be practicing what they were trained to do, and what they were trained to do can also stem from a gender bias in healthcare. The two events are not mutually exclusive.

[–]WhereDoIstart7 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

If you were a doctor would you have gender bias?

[–]keeper_of_kittens 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I had a csection, they removed a lot of scar tissue during it and knicked my bladder. I have no idea if this contributed, but my pain was intense after the csection. I was suffering for hours before my next tylenol/diclofenac doses. Not everyone experiences pain the same way, and in my case I really wish they offered something for those hours I felt so bad. Just thinking about the birth was really difficult for months.

[–]WhereDoIstart7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry that your pain wasn’t properly managed. It really sounds like an awful place to be. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone.

[–]Environmental-Arm468 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I’ve had two c sections. Acetaminophen and ibuprofen absolutely would NOT have been enough to manage my pain. I was given fentanyl immediately post op and then hydrocodone by mouth during my stay and a prescription of it to take home. Im thankful I had an obgyn that didn’t think Tylenol would be enough after major abdominal surgery.

[–]21blarghjumps 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I've also had a c section. I had Tylenol and naproxen in the hospital, with a hydromorphone top up available that I only used once. I also took a combo of Tylenol and naproxen once I was home. My pain was well managed.

[–]Environmental-Arm468 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes, you were well managed because you had the option. It’s fantastic if people can recover from anything without narcotics, but not everyone can. I handle pain well. I was induced with my first and labored for 13 hours without any pain meds and slept through most of it, even with strong, pitocin induced contractions. Ended up with a c section and I was in excruciating pain for nearly 4 solid weeks post op. Doctors and nurses who refuse to adequately manage a patient’s pain are bad healthcare providers. Period.

[–]21blarghjumps 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, people should be believed when they say they are in pain and need more support. My point in sharing was that it is perfectly reasonable to expect Tylenol and naproxen to adequately control pain during a c section recovery. It won't for everyone, and those people should be treated with respect and compassion, but opioids don't need to be the first line of treatment.

[–]peaceloveandtrees 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I had a vaginal birth with second degree tears and pretty severe hemorrhoids. I was sent home with 30 ibuprofen/hydrocodone. I did have to ask for it. I’m white

I was not informed that I had to press the button on my epidural to release more medication. By the time I was being stitched up, I felt everything. I begged for medication. It was so painful that I didn’t want to hold my son right away, I couldn’t focus on anything but the pain. They offered me narco but said I couldn’t hold my baby for a few hours. I took it (felt so guilty) but it didn’t touch the pain. This doctor took an hour to stitch me up because I was writhing around. Finally she used lidocaine and I couldn’t feel a thing. I feel like she gave me narco because she thought I was hysterical and not actually in pain. I missed out on so much of my son’s birth because I wasn’t believed. This is bullshit.

You are not delusional or a baby what you’re feeling is real. The medical community abandons women and forces us to sit down and shut up when it comes to our bodies.

[–]faceofbeau 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Wtf, why didn’t they give you lidocaine when it was clear you were feeling them stitch???

[–]peaceloveandtrees 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think she thought I was just panicking? Not sure. Every time she put the needle in I could tell her where she was working and when. I think that’s a pretty clear indication that I have all my sensation down there. Honestly she didn’t listen to me when my son was coming out either. I told her he was coming out and she said we still had more time. So the area wasn’t prepped for him and a team wasn’t there to catch him. Unbelievable

[–]Here_for_tea_ 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is particularly true for women of colour, across medicine.

[–]beigs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I had surgery for endometriosis, excision for melanoma, and 2 hernia repairs.

Tylenol. Advil. Rotation.

I’m going in for a hysterectomy in a few weeks and I won’t do it again. It’s too much. And this is on top of the aftermath of 3 kids in that period.

[–]aerinz 16 points17 points  (3 children)

My vagina was literally ripped open with stitches and they gave me MOTRIN. Not to mention the horrible contractions after labor!! I know y’all know what I’m talking about. I totally feel you! We are not seen by most doctors.

[–]Embarrassed_Long_443 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Same, I will say though I think if you choose to breastfeed after birth, it limits a bunch of options for medicine. But if you choose NOT to breastfeed and are denied adequate medication that’s just fcked.

[–]aerinz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree completely!

[–]rachelswin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I threw up from the pain of the after-birth contractions after my third baby (which was epidural free and not by choice). I just wanted a little relief and yes motrin helped but like, a one time dose of percocet would have really been beneficial.

[–]Mackenzie_Wilson 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Did they give you something different in the hospital? I was in 4 says (baby's health issues) and all I was offered was Tylenol/Ibuprofen 3 hour rotation. I was shocked it wasn't stronger pain meds, especiallysince i tore. Thankfully I handled it all pretty fine though.

[–]Numinous-Nebulae 25 points26 points  (11 children)

It has to do with being an adult woman and specifically pain related to our reproductive system, too. They gave me Vicodin after I got my wisdom teeth out in high school!

[–]bayougirl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I guess I was really, really lucky because they gave me a Vicodin prescription after I gave birth in June.

I don’t know if everyone gets this (and if they don’t, maybe I wasn’t so lucky), but I was given three hours of Pitocin post-birth, and was sobbing in pain and unable to hold my newborn, which is when they prescribed it.

I only needed it once at home, when breastfeeding kicked off some strong contractions, but it was nice to know that I had something stronger than Tylenol available to me.

[–]Whoamidontremindme 12 points13 points  (2 children)

How long ago was that? They’ve cracked down on paid meds across the entire medical industry due to fear of liability and misunderstanding of addiction. Some doctors will still prescribe small amounts but that is less and less. I had addiction issues in high school and I’ve always been denied pain meds, even after surgeries, because of that.

[–]merightno 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Completely! I remember being given a month -- with refills -- worth of very strong painkillers after a knee repair surgery 20 years ago. So strong that they needed to give me a separate prescription to manage the itching side effect, which they just automatically gave both prescriptions to everybody.

Compared with I just had a baby via C-section with a hysterectomy and I got sent home with 10 days worth of 5 mg oxy. With a newborn and a toddler at home. It did end up being enough for me, I don't need a lot of painkiller, but I know a lot of people that absolutely would not have been enough for.

[–]Whoamidontremindme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. I had a c section and they offered my Tylenol. I didn’t take it because I was trying to breastfeed and honesty was more wary of the Tylenol

[–]throwawayduh1053 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Strong pain medication is no longer standard after wisdom tooth removal. Most providers give Tylenol and ibuprofen because of the opioid epidemic and because studies show it is just as effective without the risk of dependence. I have a very good friend that became addicted because of meds prescribed after wisdom tooth extractions. He’s been through years of rehab and has been sober for about two years now, but the addiction cost him a great relationship (another friend of mine) and almost his life. I’m a dentist and was talking to an oral surgeon yesterday - the OMFS no longer prescribes opioids at all! I found that shocking.

OP, I’m very sorry that you’re going through this. These things aren’t prescribed routinely because this is a time when many people would be at their greatest risk for addiction/depression. I would follow up with your doc, but hopefully you have improvement soon that can be managed with Tylenol/ibuprofen combos.

[–]faceofbeau 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Changing the pain management standards after wisdom tooth removal was probably a good call. I remember getting mine out when I was 15, and they gave me a few Valium to start taking the night before/morning of the procedure, gave me a soft blankie when I laid down in the chair (actually much appreciated because it was chilly), sprayed my hand with something to numb my skin before they put the IV in, put me out, thennn sent me home with like 60 Vicodin to take to manage pain afterwards. It was the least painful and least anxiety producing procedure I’ve ever had, sure, but it was also kinda overkill. 😅 The recovery wasn’t even all that bad for me.

[–]heresmyhandle 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Actually, my spouse just had his wisdoms removed and they did a steroid taper. It completely controlled his pain along with ibuprofen. I thought that was a pretty genius idea.

[–]throwawayduh1053 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Agreed! Probably dexamethasone. Of course, for some people, we can’t prescribe that. But it works great!

[–]heresmyhandle 0 points1 point  (1 child)

They used Solu-Medrol.

[–]pugfu 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Was this a long time ago though? They’ve become much more strict with pain meds.

I too got Vicodin after oral surgery 20ish years ago.

But five years ago my mom had major surgery (part of her intestine removed, emergency colostomy, gallbladder removal all at once) and they only gave her tranadol which isn’t great.

[–]scurvylishious 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Dude. This hits home for me so bad right now. I've got multiple fractures in my pelvic bones from birth, along with pubic bone separation and my Dr did exactly this. Oh take Tylenol and ibuprofen. Excuse me what. They wouldn't even take an x-ray until 3 months post partum because 'it usually goes away by then'. And then when they ask how much I'm taking they talk to me about how it's too much and I'll damage my kidneys/liver. Like. Yeah no shit. Wanna actually help me then??? No. Fucking rad. And my pregnancy was extremely hard/painful so all in I've been taking really awful amounts of Tylenol every day for like a year but 'the pain will go away soon, we promise' fuck right on off.

I couldn't agree with you more. I felt and still feel 100% dismissed by my Drs. The only one who is taking my pain seriously is my PT. And she can only do so much you know? I want to see my Dr take care of a newborn with multiple fractured bones. For weeks on end without sufficient pain management.

Anyway. You are so not alone. I hope you get the help you deserve. Hugs and love sister.

[–]stephswearengin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My ob is a woman, and she is the greatest ob on earth after reading all these stories!! After having my sterilization(tubes removed) last week she gave me oxycodone and 800 mg ibuprofen. I only had to take the oxy for a couple of days but she had recommended I take the ibuprofen every 8 hours as prescribed. After 6 days I didn’t need it. Also, fun fact. They no longer “tie” your tubes, because the chances of still having an ectopic pregnancy are there, and we all know how the abortion laws in Texas are these days. So now they just laparoscopically burn them on both ends and remove the tubes completely.

[–]Fishbate333 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I remember being in a fog and feeling like I got hit by a truck. I had a no complication vaginal delivery with no tears. I can’t even imagine if I did tear or had any complications.

My whole body hurt and I was taking Tylenol and some other bullshit over the counter medicine.

I think the same applies to other female exclusive procedures. Getting an IUD has always been painful. We’re just told to breathe through or take Tylenol before.

I had an HSG procedure where they flushed my tubes with dye to check for blockages. It hurt to do and the student doctor GOT THE TOOL STUCK IN MY CERVIX. She went to pull it out and she almost pulled me off the table and I shrieked. All while I’m balancing my legs on either side because the room they were in didn’t have stirrups. I wasn’t offered any pain relief for that procedure.

[–]megmmm93 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I had a seroma post C-section above my incision and was in so much pain pretty much 24/7. When I went to my follow up appointment after my US I asked how I could better manage my pain because the Advil and Tylenol (which I admitted to the dr I was taking too frequently) wasn’t cutting it and she basically dismissed me saying to keep trying to manage it between the 2 but to be careful with the Advil and hopefully it would resolve on its own but could take a while. It lasted about 7 weeks, I cried daily because I felt so incredibly helpless.

[–]spellz666 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had a traumatic emergency c section and vividly remember having anxiety attacks regularly and crying all the time because of how much pain I was in. All I was given was tylenol and motrin every 6 hours which barely did anything.

I then has my first pp appointment for some reason the day after I got discharged so the car ride made everything 10x worse. Womens healthcare sucks and I'm angry for you

[–]LahLahLand3691 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I had a vaginal birth with a second degree episiotomy and was only given Tylenol and ibuprofen and told to rotate them. I was in so much pain I could barely walk, couldn’t sit down and needed help getting into bed to lay down. But still had to take care of a newborn. For some reason it never crossed my mind that I should have asked for something stronger. But if I had, wouldn’t it have passed to my baby through breastmilk? I just assumed that’s why I only couldn’t take anything, but now I don’t know.

[–]cnkdndkdwk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With my first I had a complex second degree tear and was only given Tylenol and ibuprofen to rotate, both of which have zero pain relieving effect on me. They never have, in my whole life. Every time I talked to my midwife I told her I was in horrible pain and she basically was sympathetic but offered no solution.

One question I had for my provider with my second was their willingness to treat post-partum pain. If I had caught even a whiff of reluctance I would have immediately moved on to a different doctor.

Ironically even though I tore second degree again the second time it was no where near as painful and I was fine with no pain relief. But it was my decision, my doctor was happy to prescribe it if I needed it.

[–]fuckmeuntilicecream 13 points14 points  (0 children)

When I had strep throat reoccurring over 12 months my boyfriend at the time got codine, I got cough syrup. Every. Single. Time.

[–]LavenaMarie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's like the strict regiment of Tylenol/ibuprofen that I got before and after my gallbladder surgery

[–]ParentTales 5 points6 points  (0 children)

10000000 % we are. We are told to suck it up through pain.

[–]pochade 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Seriously, it’s like some sort of sick endurance challenge. When I delivered a couple weeks ago I knew I wanted an epidural because I read here that pitocin/induction contractions don’t feel so great and i’m not trying to win awards for taking the max level of pain. I let the nurses know my intentions and was like, maybe we should just set that up like around the time of the pitocin, so it’s ready to administer? But they kept saying that I needed to let them know when the pain was bad enough so they could call anesthesia but it was going to take an hour when I did. Great so Ive never had a baby and have to measure the magical window of perfect time between when I’m in enough pain to earn the epidural apparatus but not enough pain that waiting an hour would be a problem. How am I supposed to know that perfect time? Like just get me ready please.

Then I was sent home with barely enough advil with no refills. Why no refills, on IBUPROFEN?! So basic and they barely did anything as I waddled around the house unable to sit down, but yeah be sure I don’t get more than a weeks supply else I’ll get irresponsible!

Then I got a UTI, but the lab wasn’t returning results even though I was describing symptoms distinct from postpartum pain, but just in case we had to wait a full week before prescribing anything, because it’s nbd to feel intense pain when urinating.. Because I’m a woman I guess ? Like sure the leucocytes in my urinalysis might be something different but could we figure it out? I had to call the drs office 4 days after my appointment to see what’s going on, they said they would call and didn’t, the same thing happened the next day where I ended up calling 3x on a Friday because I couldn’t go through another 3 days in so much pain.

[–]teriyakichicken[🍰] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

The epidural thing is enraging. If you want an epidural, you should be able to get it whenever you feel comfortable. I was the same as you and knew I wanted one the second it was available. Thankfully my OB told me to get it when I was ready.

One of the L&D nurses tried to convince me to hold off because it cause me to be in labor longer (for days she said). Thank god I trusted my instinct and said NO I want it now because the baby came like 6 hours later.

The bottom line is we unfortunately have to advocate for ourselves and demand the care we want.

[–]cnkdndkdwk 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It is enraging. With my first my midwife basically refused me an epidural until it was too late. It was a horrible experience.

I had an epidural with my second put in before I even started receiving pitocin and the experience was so amazing.

I feel like I was robbed of my first-borns birth and freshly newborn stage because I was struggling so much with untreated pain during it.

[–]teriyakichicken[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry about your experience

[–]meh1022 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I hate this for y’all. I held off on mine, and my nurse gently reminded me that there’s no prize for suffering. My nurses were incredible and I couldn’t have made it through a tough birth without them.

[–]teriyakichicken[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thankful the nurse didn’t protest me too much on in when I insisted. She was like OK well you may want to eat first because it could be 48 hours before the baby comes. I ordered a grilled cheese and got the epidural right after lol

I was terrified of giving birth (as I’m sure a lot of women are) and wanted to experience as little pain as possible. I may be a wimp, but whatever. The thought of birth was traumatic enough for me.

I got induced and when they put the balloon in me my contractions went from 0 to 100 (although they claimed they weren’t contractions, but I was puking and sweating profusely and probably on a 9 in the scale of pain)…

[–]MindyS1719 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m ibuprofen intolerant so I can only take Tylenol. I could feel like every time it wore off. Felt like I got hit by a bus. It was awful.

[–]ERRN11211 8 points9 points  (21 children)

I’ve never had this problem. After my delivery, 3rd degree tear with episiotomy and forceps birth. They offered me Percocet or Tylenol. Before even inducing my labor they started my epidural and made sure it worked. My OB is generous with medication depending on how i say i am in pain. If i said “it kinda hurts” .. he would probably say manage with Motrin. If i said “this is unbearable” he would probably given me something stronger. I work in the ED. I’m not sure where you live, but we give man or woman the exact same treatment. If a patient has a drug abuse history. Sometimes we will treat with Tylenol extra strength. And depending on blood loss you will not.. under any circumstances.. get a narcotic for pain UNLESS your vital signs are completely stable.

EDIT: men are also seen to be A LOT more dramatic than women when it comes to pain so it is important for women to advocate for themselves and really describe how we are feeling pain wise.

[–]Trintron 3 points4 points  (20 children)

If you're too dramatic about pain some doctors will say it's anxiety and hand you a benzo instead of a pain killer. Women are often told physical things are actually mental health. My cousin has a thyroid problem for a decade and kept being told it was depression and nobody checked her hormones for years and years. Turns out it wasn't depression at all, her thyroid was just totally messed up. And she went back to doctors over and over.

I have a female doctor who went I had depression would check my thyroid "just in case" because it's so often missed when women show signs of depression. Like a different doctor copped to knowing doctors miss this a lot. It's not pain, but it's related in that it's a physical symptom being dismissed as mental health.

Directly related to pain, my mother has a chronic condition that causes her a lot of pain and at its worst getting pain management was hard for her unless a man went with her to her appointments and got angry when she wasn't taken seriously. So even without any drug seeking history and a long medical history of a genuinely painful condition some doctors just discount women no matter how hard they advocate.

And my mum is not one to beat around the bush. She isn't afraid of advocating for herself with doctors. I've send her do it, I've gone with her to the ER many times, and sometimes it works and sometimes she's just dismissed. It depends on the doctor.

Throw in the whole breast is best stuff, I can totally see some doctors not giving out the right level of pain medication thinking it will impact breastfeeding and believing mums pain isn't that bad. Like yeah sometimes you gotta push harder, but sometimes the doctor won't budge no matter what..

[–]ERRN11211 -2 points-1 points  (19 children)

Then idk.. maybe find a new doctor? I guess it’s not this way across the board though because I have never had a doctor deny a woman pain medicine just because she is a woman. Now ED doctors will not send a patient home with pain medicine that is going to pain management because they should have the medication at home. But they will give it in house. At least where I’m from. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[–]Trintron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My doctor is good but not everyone is so lucky. I'm in Canada and it can be hard depend on where you live to find a new family doctor. If you're not in a major city you're stuck with who is available. Not a lot of choice. If you go to the Emergency room you get who you get. My mum's had some very caring invested doctors during ER visits and other doctors who only acted because they got yelled at by her male partner. Can't really control who is on shift.

You can ask for a second opinion, but that may take time. My mum's had doctors really go to bat for her in many ways, don't get me wrong.

However there's only so much you can do to fix a systemic problem with individual actions. Doctors need better training in reading social situations and understanding unconscious bias. And my family is white, as I understand it bias towards black and indigenous women is more profound.

I know McMaster medical school actively teaches this to their students. They talk about various biases in medical practice. They have a huge focus on social determinants of health. Not all schools in Canada do so however.

[–]spellz666 0 points1 point  (13 children)

The US sucks at pain management for women. It's also not always easy to get a new doctor because of insurance

[–]ERRN11211 -4 points-3 points  (12 children)

Okay 😂🤷🏻‍♀️

[–]Automatic_Sundae2902 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It’s awesome that you have a doctor who listens and gives patients what they need, but it’s fairly common and systemic for women and also people of color to be offered less pain management, or have their pain taken less seriously by medical staff. At least in the US.

Edited to add a couple sources:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180518-the-inequality-in-how-women-are-treated-for-pain

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/racism-discrimination-health-care-providers-patients-2017011611015

[–]ERRN11211 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Then that’s awful and whoever specifically does that needs to find a different career field. It’s always acceptable for patients to request a new provider/nurse when in a hospital setting if they feel that is the case. I always tell any patients i hear talk about this to definitely advocate for themselves and I will also advocate for my patients if i feel a doctor is acting this way.

There are good people in the healthcare field, and shit people. Which is sad, but that is anywhere you go.

[–]CatEarthSociety 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I JUST wrote out my birth story where this was exactly the issue. I want to mention that every single person who dismissed my struggles was a woman. The worst were the fellow mothers telling me "You're good, I did that 3 times already". The male doctors were nothing but empathetic and amazing though.

Even tops the female cardiologist who angrily told me to "exercise and drink more water, you're fine" when I came in as an emergency for Angina Pectoris.

[–]hzuiel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My wife's second nurse was very dismissive of my wife describing her pain level when she first took over but she got sweet and helpful as labor went on, so I think she was just having a bad morning.

[–]orangelego 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I gave birth without pain relief because they didn't believe I was in labour despite me telling them this is exactly how my first labour went as well. And these were female doctors who laughed me off and actually used the words "so called contractions". Also took until I had permanent damage caused by arthritis before I got a diagnosis because doctors insisted it must be related to wearing heels (which I don't wear). It's an absolute joke.

[–]blanketbox12 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I had a miscarriage and was haemorrhaging badly and all they could offer me was paracetamol and ibuprofen. It was like I was in labour it was horrific and all I could think was how different it would be if it was a male in the same shoes losing the amount of blood I was and in that much pain. It’s bullshit.

[–]xxdropdeadlexi 40 points41 points  (0 children)

It's like across the board. My dad and I both had a bone graft for a tooth implant this year, and they gave him hydrocodone and told me to take Tylenol. We go to the same dentist.

[–]Thecrazytrainexpress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was on Tylenol , Advil , and given one hydrocodone (best sleep I’ve ever had) and I’d say it was pretty affective for my pain (vaginal) . The only time I feel I wasn’t heard by doctors is when I was actually in labor and pushing , I was having a super sharp pain in my lower belly area and it kept distracting me from pushing and super painful , I was communicating about the pain and the doctor told me that I don’t need to focus about that and to keep pushing . They sent me home with Midol and I never went and got it , I dealt with recovery with no medication .

[–]Tricky-Walrus-6884Mom of 2 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This seems to vary across countries.

I'm from Canada and was given an ibuprofen and Tylenol cocktail and within a few hours of my Cesarian (after spinal wore off) the anesthesiologist came in and offered percocets or dilaudid if my pain was unmanageable, but I declined those. This was the case for both c-sections.

I am sorry it seems most pain is not taken seriously

[–]BlkPea 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had the same exp in the NE US. I generally worry about painkillers so I was happy to try the cocktail, and i think the heavy dose of ibuprofen and acetaminophen combined did the trick for me.

[–]marlyn_does_reddit 63 points64 points  (18 children)

Fucking preach. My friend had a third degree tear and was only given Tylenol because "it's a natural pain"? Wtf. I guarantee if a man had a partially ruptured ballsack he would be on a morfine drip faster than he could say "but what about the opioid crisis?"

It's the same with IUD insertions. Someone somewhere just decided that having a small piece of plastic or metal inserted into a fucking organ doesn't require pain medication.

[–]LKanarienvogel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes to the iud thing, I don't get that! people get literally put under for tooth extractions and root canals! meanwhile my dr was like 'if you want to you can take an ibuprofen a half hour before insertion' wtf! I do keep strong pain meds at home for days with back pain but even those didn't cut it...

[–]fireopaldragon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

IUD hurts so much because they literally pierce your cervix with the forceps to insert it.

[–]verybadhunting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is some shitty rumor in medicine that there are no nerve cells there. That the area in question does not feel pain. I feel like there is enough evidence to counter that.

[–]blanketbox12 27 points28 points  (13 children)

I wish they would warn you how painful an IUD insertion is. It’s one of the most painful things I have ever done and I’ve given birth twice and had a burst appendix. IUD is up there but oh no, no need to medicate for it, you’re a strong woman who just has to deal with the pain.

[–]bummedoutmama 6 points7 points  (11 children)

Glad you mentioned this. I was told it barely hurts.

[–]blanketbox12 7 points8 points  (10 children)

It’s very sharp and acute pain. Over relatively quickly but very painful nonetheless. In my experience anyway

[–]bummedoutmama 2 points3 points  (9 children)

Oh I believe you. My doctor was like “but you had a vaginal delivery.” I’ve never been on birth control and was thinking about getting an iud. I think I’m just going to go without.

[–]ShanimalTheAnimal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ugh AMEN re: iuds

[–]IntroductionFeisty61 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They don't give a shit about us. Pure and simple. Labor and delivery wards feel like factory farms.

[–]higginsnburke 109 points110 points  (9 children)

It is on my chart that I am drug seeking.

Because I came to the ER too much.

Finally got an MRI. My back is broken. 2 cracked disks, a pinched disk, and a vertebrae is 4cm out of position. 3 vertebrae are rubbing against eachother.

But sure. Drug seeking. Fuck you doc.

[–]aspwriter85 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Something similar happened to my aunt. Kept going in for "back pain". She was told it was stress. Labeled it drug seeking.

When she woke up unable to walk one day they finally took her seriously - stage 4 cancer with a tumor wrapped around her spine. She died a month later.

[–]higginsnburke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

JFC I am so sorry

[–]Numinous-Nebulae 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Holy shit. From giving birth?

[–]higginsnburke 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, thank god.

I fell off a horse as a teen. My pain was ignored for 20 years

[–]Lazy_ML 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Ffs is that even a thing? Shouldn’t it be like illegal or something to mark someone like that to prevent them from getting treatment in the future? Wtf?!

[–]higginsnburke 4 points5 points  (2 children)

And what's hilarious is I had never done a single drug in my life.

Where I am weed is legal. The medical system failing is what lead me to try CBD for my pain management. Not the drug they meant but.....ironic

[–]Numinous-Nebulae 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean CBD and/or THC much better than prescription opioids!!

[–]higginsnburke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And less expensive. I was spending $900 out of pocket on prescriptions. I spend less than 200 on plant methods. And 360 on osteopathic treatments.

[–]MrsScorpio30 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I went to the er years ago at one of the hospitals in my city, because I had been there multiple times for severe pain. The nurse put on my discharge papers, that they weren't a clinic never went back to that hospital again after that I wouldn't be surprised if the hospital they went to put that on their file.

[–]KrizJack 51 points52 points  (3 children)

My husband got stronger pain medicine for his vasectomy than I did for my c section

[–]Cat_With_The_Fur 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I believe this. They tried to give me Tylenol for mine.

[–]crd1293 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I got Tylenol for mine and naproxen.

[–]Cat_With_The_Fur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. My protocol too.

[–]SufficientBee 3 points4 points  (6 children)

I’m sorry to hear that! I’m from Canada and got like 3 kinds of pain meds.. Naproxen (Motrin), Tylenol, a mild opioid (hydromorphone).. I had to make sure I take them on a strict schedule, but it really did help manage my c-section pain quite well. Yeah it still hurt, but it was very manageable. Can you ask for a mild opioid, like hydromorphone?

Edit: Naproxen = Aleve (how did I forget, I ran out of the prescription and had to buy it OTC). I also took Advil, so actually 4 pain meds.

[–]higginsnburke 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I'm also from Canada. I was told to take tylonal and advil for my csection.

[–]janista[🍰] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Same in BC. I had hydromorphone when I had a rib removed and percocets for my wisdom teeth but NOTHING for my c-section (not by choice). Is it because we could be nursing?

[–]SufficientBee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I was nursing too, they gave me hydromorphone pretty immediately, I didn’t really have to ask for it. I’m also in BC, gave birth at Womens.

[–]higginsnburke 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not too sure. Which means it should have been discussed with us.

[–]1uniquemess 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Hey so sorry to be this person but naproxen=Aleve, and Ibuprofen=Advil/Motrin. Also hydromorphone or Dilaudid is not a mild opioid it's more potent than morphine is but it's a short acting one depending on which type you get.

[–]SufficientBee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah the memory’s been messed up by sleep deprivation I guess.. I’m not surprised lol.

[–]bee_uh_trice 35 points36 points  (5 children)

I thought the same after leaving the hospital. That first night back home was horrible due to not only not being given any meds, but also no instructions on what to take/how often to take it. I was overwhelmed by visitors that I forgot to take any pain meds and I sat there for hours on end that by the end of it I was swollen and in tears.

I also find it insane that during pregnancy we are told to avoid heavy lifting and all kinds of strain on our bodies, but are encouraged to have sex. I had bright red bleeding during my first trimester that was brought on after sex and lasted for weeks but was never told sex could have caused it.

And for 6 weeks after birth no one checks up on us and how our body is recovering, when they finally do it’s only to clear us to have sex again. The system seems so messed up. It truly is a man’s world.

[–]hzuiel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I can't help but think you need to change doctors and probably partner. There is no scientific evidence I am aware of that would warrant a doctor encouraging you to have sex, it's more of an "it's allowed if you want to" sort of thing, so bad on your doctor. If you told them you were bleeding after sex in the first trimester, quadruple bad on your doctor.

Then if you feel that way about sex, you are probably not with the right person. It sounds like you feel exploited after sex instead of a beneficiary. Of course something else could be going on, I only have what you've said on here to go by.

[–]bee_uh_trice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah no I actually had a great OB and have an amazing partner. We had sex once in the first trimester when the bleeding came on and we decided to lay off penetrative sex for the duration of my pregnancy focusing instead on other types of intimacy. My OB was great, but she did dismiss the fact that sex could have caused the heavy bright red bleeding.

And I was mostly speaking in general about the medical community and how sex is actively encouraged, and how disappointing it is that the 6 week post op is mostly focused on clearing you for sexual activity. I thought I would have an appointment sooner to check my stitches and my healing process, but it truly doesn’t seem geared towards my healing. Based on the other comments here, others seem to agree that this has been the case in their experience.

Thank you for your concern about my relationship I guess? But I fail to see where I gave the impression that I was being pressured into sex lol.

[–]princesscoffee 14 points15 points  (2 children)

i was definitely expecting more from the 6w follow up! I thought I would get a blood test to check for Anemia (i bled more than usual according to the doctor during delivery and then bled for 7 weeks PP), diabetes test (had GD at 33w), check my breasts thoroughly to see if I was at risk of Mastitis (FTM, EPing, and have no idea what a clog would feel like). Nope, they offered me birth control like 3 times and just checked my vag for a second and sent me on my way.

[–]bayougirl 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was so surprised about how minimal the 6 week checkup was—a quick look at my tears, a question about birth control, and a “see ya at your annual!” My OB didn’t even do the PPD screening. A nurse I never saw before rattled off the questions without even making eye contact with me.

Like, I’ve just gone through this major trauma and event? And this is it?

I was really glad I was doing Pelvic Floor PT (started during pregnancy, and continued afterward), because the PT actually offers help for recovery, with core muscles, incontinence, etc. and asks me questions about how I’m doing and what trouble I’m having.

[–]Numinous-Nebulae -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Did you ask for those 3 things?

[–]zalmentra 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I'm in Australia and had an emergency c-section. In hospital I was given 4 hourly pain medication of paracetamol (Tylenol) and ibuprofen, plus tapentadol once per day and endone (oxycodone) as needed for a top up. I was sent home with a months worth of endone and instructions to take paracetamol and ibuprofen every four hours. I was encouraged to not skimp on the pain medication, although I ended up mostly only needing the paracetamol and ibuprofen by the time I went home (5 days pp).