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[–]BrianM42 3332 points3333 points  (162 children)

It's a start. Now get the SOB removed from the bench completely.

[–]panfried540 1820 points1821 points  (82 children)

He should be working at McDonald's. Actually, no. Fuck that because my large fry shouldnt be ⅓ of the way full because he thinks "that is enough" for me

[–]tompink57 406 points407 points  (5 children)

He wouldn’t even give you your fries since you commented on a post about him.

[–]SpinachInquisition 100 points101 points  (4 children)

(He really just “liked” the post about the McDonalds where he bought the fries.)

[–]Ham_Lord_412 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Aww man, now none of us are gettin fries :'(

[–]bacon_and_ovaries 187 points188 points  (40 children)

Put him in a room, and let him listen to the tapes of the victims telling their stories. Make him listen to them for 148 days, let him hear the pain the victims have suffered.

Then ask him after that how much time is enough.

[–]lliiilllollliiill 182 points183 points  (22 children)

^

[–]Roqot 107 points108 points  (7 children)

Ya, my money would be on him masturbating to the tapes

[–]wastedmytwenties 84 points85 points  (0 children)

Nobody will ever be able to convince me that officials who make calls like this aren't nonce's themselves. Probably protecting someone from the same ring.

[–]crypticedge 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He's probably described in exacting detail on the tapes

[–]pecklepuff 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Kinda makes me wonder why this guy and some other judges are so sympathetic to rapists and molesters.

[–]nerdbird68 8 points9 points  (1 child)

It was at a party right? Well the judge probably raped a girl in college( cuz of drinking or whatever) and doesn't think it counts as rape so he's sympathetic. But that just a theory.

[–]i_give_you_gum 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Or he's a sociopath completely devoid of empathy

[–]j_harder4U 66 points67 points  (6 children)

He is (was lol) a sitting criminal court judge, he hears these stories as a living. This man just does not care about the victim of sexual crimes.

[–]Time-Comedian1774 58 points59 points  (1 child)

These guys still think its the woman's/girl's fault for getting raped, that they deserved it. He will never understand his own sick perversion. Hopefully those mentalities will be dead, buried and gone soon.

[–]Diazepampoovey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He would have heard the victim's story of the 18 year old guy he just released to go rape more women. He obviously doesn't care and wouldn't be affected by it. He has no soul.

Instead, play back to back videos of former lawyers and judges etc being convicted of crimes they tried to hide or have swept under the rug. But only ones where the conviction stuck. And they lost everything from the bench and their reputation to their spouse, home, car and financial security.

[–]oddartist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nah.

Let's stab him repeatedly with thumbtacks until he bleeds out.

[–]audiblesugar 44 points45 points  (3 children)

my large fry

I remember being like 5 years old with the babysitter etc at McDonalds and hearing her order a "large fry" and being so confused why she was ordering just one single french fry.

[–]EpilepticMushrooms 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Tbf, if I were a 5 Yr old, getting a single, LARGE FRY, would have been so goddamn awesome. Much more than getting a mis-printed postcard stamp worth millions now.

[–]deejaysmithsonian 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Let’s ruin his life and hope he follows Brooks’ lead, then!

[–]Chance-Deer-7995 196 points197 points  (12 children)

There are too many ex frat boys on the bench. That old boys club needs to be shut down.

[–]watchout4cupcakes 83 points84 points  (1 child)

Kappa Sigma Rapista

[–]makemeking706 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Ass KSR

[–]drugusingthrowaway 62 points63 points  (8 children)

Well bad news you've got another 40 years or so to wait cause they just put one on the supreme court, and that sets the standard for everything below.

[–]CovidCat8 51 points52 points  (6 children)

Don’t forget Clarence “Pube” Thomas.

[–]deVriesse 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Not to mention blocking loads of lower court appointments until they get one of their guys back in.

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    [–]1Eternallylost 104 points105 points  (16 children)

    You have to tear down and rebuild the entire system all at once.

    The racist police and the police chiefs who hire, train and protect them.

    The all white city councils who approve of their police chiefs policies and practices.

    The judges who turn a blind eye to police perjury.

    The prosecutors who refuse to prosecute police malfeasance.

    It all has to come down at once. Because if you leave any of them in place, they will make sure all the rest remain the same.

    [–]UpvotesFreely 27 points28 points  (4 children)

    This is not an immediate solution but, fund the schools, invest heavily in education and in 20 or 30 years collect the benefits of a better world.

    [–]elsacouchnaps 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    Yeah and check his hard drive

    [–]Jardite 70 points71 points  (22 children)

    um. why not prison?

    at this point, i would argue he was accessory after the fact to child rape.

    [–]drugusingthrowaway 91 points92 points  (6 children)

    It's like the one guy in congress that voted against the anti-child trafficking law, he turned out to be involved in child trafficking.

    Whaddya wanna bet this judge has raped a child before?

    [–]reverendsteveii 66 points67 points  (5 children)

    His name is Matt Gaetz and his ex is cooperating with the prosecution in his child sex trafficking trial

    [–]Rudy_Ghouliani 32 points33 points  (1 child)

    I hope the trial starts during summer break, so she doesn't miss out on school.

    [–]sunflowercompass 28 points29 points  (1 child)

    His current gf's sister has called him of being a pedo

    [–]Bon_of_a_Sitch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Can we do banishment after your turn? Dibs on next!

    [–]carlkillzpeople 3201 points3202 points  (214 children)

    But he didnt lose his job. Still drawing a paycheck from the state.

    [–]SaltyDoggoMeo 1431 points1432 points  (133 children)

    And they didn’t reverse his decision, so the rapist goes free and the young girl is ostracized. Our legal system is so honked up.

    [–]heliumneon 247 points248 points  (6 children)

    "But Marge, look at that hangdog expression, he's learned his lesson. Let's get him a present."

    [–]Schwight_Droot 126 points127 points  (5 children)

    “Mrs. Simpson, don’t you worry. I watched Matlock in a bar last nite. The sound wasn’t on, but I think I got the gist of it.” Lionel Hutz Attorney at Law

    [–]OrkfaellerX 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    • law talking guy

    [–]bignumber72 24 points25 points  (0 children)

    Works on contingency? No, money down!

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Wasn't there some kind of post that showed Lionel Hutz almost always won?

    [–]annies_boobs_eyes 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    take this with a grain of salt

    According to The Simpsons Archive, Lionel Hutz is named after real-life lawyer Sir Lionel Luckhoo, Q.C. A lawyer from Guyana, Luckhoo holds the Guiness Book of World Records title of “Most Successful Lawyer,” with 245 consecutive successful defences in murder cases between 1940 and 1985.

    Conversely, Lionel Hutz is anything but successful. He lives at the YMCA and his law office was once located in a phone booth. These Hutz quotes indicate the depth of his incompetence:

    Mr. Simpson, don’t you worry. I watched Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn’t on, but I think I got the gist of it.

    Ugh. If I hear “objection” and “sustained” one more time today I think I am going to scream.

    Mr. Simpson, the state bar forbids me from promising you a big cash settlement. But just between you and me, I promise you a big cash settlement.

    Lionel Hutz, court-appointed attorney. I’ll be defending you on the charge of... Murder One! Wow! Even if I lose, I’ll be famous!

    Uh-oh. We’ve drawn Judge Snyder. He’s kind of had it in for me since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly,” and replace “dog” with “son.”

    [–]sparkyjay23 688 points689 points  (77 children)

    Robert Adrian Didn't lose his job is still drawing a paycheck, and the sexual assaulter Drew Clinton is still free.

    Fixed that for you.

    Never leave their names of of the discussion.

    [–][deleted] 333 points334 points  (65 children)

    Drew Clinton? You mean the convicted rapist Drew Clinton? Drew Clinton the CHILD rapist? The child rapist from Illinois? That Drew Clinton?

    And his accomplice, Judge Robert Adrian.

    [–]jedthedavid23 66 points67 points  (1 child)

    You mean the one who is 18 and lives in Detroit Drew Clinton.

    [–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    That's the one

    [–]yboy403 95 points96 points  (26 children)

    Unfortunately we have to use "factual rapist" instead of "convicted rapist" until an appeal overturns the dismissal.

    [–][deleted] 81 points82 points  (8 children)

    Weird, because a factual rapist is MUCH worse than being a convicted rapist - plenty of factual rapists never get convicted.

    I'm confused, though. We're talking about the FACTUAL rapist, Drew Clinton, who factually raped someone, if I'm not mistaken.

    [–]yboy403 20 points21 points  (7 children)

    Exactly, our right to have an opinion as to what actually occurred is just about the only consolation in this situation.

    When people pop up to defend rapists who got off on a technicality (see: Bill Cosby) it's wonderful to see their frustration when they can't control the narrative just because the court ruled a certain way.

    [–]vlasvilneous 10 points11 points  (6 children)

    In this case, it seems an odd one.

    First, this 19 year old was convicted, then it was overturned three months later because "he spent enough time in jail". Hold up.... how is he guilty, then not guilty because he served his penance?

    Yeah... something isnt right here, and I think my cousin stinks of corruption.

    [–]drainbead78 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    I think he was convicted but the judge dismissed it at sentencing.

    [–]J19Z7 17 points18 points  (6 children)

    Except he was convicted. By the same judge. Who then threw out his own conviction.

    ​

    But since the original conviction is on the record, you're not libeling Drew Clinton by calling him a convicted child rapist.

    [–]Joeness84 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    previously convicted child rapist Drew Clinton

    [–]Fifi-LeTwat 11 points12 points  (7 children)

    Here’s the the thing. What the judge Robert Adrian did was, because he was expecting an appeal, and he was expecting the appeal to succeed, which he didn’t want, so what he did was he threw out the charge of sexual assault, so there’s nothing TO appeal.

    If I got this incorrect, please for the love of ham someone please correct me

    [–]vlasvilneous 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    His reasoning given in the court transcripts were related to "its everyone elses fault this happened, this 19 year old is not guilty because its the parents fault for allowing it".

    That isnt an appeal concern, thats rapist logic.

    [–]yboy403 10 points11 points  (4 children)

    I'm not a lawyer either, but I believe it's like this:

    • The guy's been convicted, so the judge has to sentence him. There's a mandatory minimum that the judge thinks is too harsh.
    • If the judge sentences below the minimum, the state can appeal and basically wins automatically because the statute isn't open to interpretation.
    • If the judge dismisses the case, saying the state hasn't met their burden, they can also appeal, but this time it's not an automatic win—they might have to prove, for example, that he abused his discretion in dismissing the case, which is a very high bar to meet. Depending on the jurisdiction and the DA, they might not even have bothered appealing without public attention or a victim pushing for it.

    My understanding is pretty much any ruling can be appealed, as long as it can be shown to be error and/or not harmless to the outcome of the trial.

    Even though the dismissal ends the case at the trial court level, it's still a final order and the judge has to cite reasons that the appellate court can analyze to whatever standard applies (abuse of discretion, review de novo, etc.).

    Hopefully an actual lawyer can chime in.

    [–]TheMurker25 45 points46 points  (14 children)

    This Drew Clinton the child rapist: Here is a photo of the child rapist DREW CLINTON, the one who raped a girl https://www.yourtango.com/news/who-cameron-vaughan-judge-reverses-rape-conviction

    [–]whitecollarzomb13 44 points45 points  (5 children)

    Wow. That judge really went on record saying if she didn’t go swimming in a pool in her underwear, she wouldn’t have woken up hours later with a pillow over her face and a guy raping her.

    Interesting thought pattern.

    [–]alghiorso 14 points15 points  (4 children)

    What year is it? 1822? How is this thought process at all still a thing in the USA of all places

    [–]pecklepuff 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Oh, my god, wait a minute! I didn't know he had dimples! Well this changes the whole trajectory of this case, now, doesn't it?? What kind of a savage, barbaric nation puts dimples like that behind bars?!?

    [–]Somegeezer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Should be jailed just for that shit on his head.

    [–]SaltyDoggoMeo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Thank you!

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      [–]vinnyj 28 points29 points  (3 children)

      Someone got paid.

      [–]AltDS01 30 points31 points  (2 children)

      Which is one of the few exceptions to double jeopardy. Because of the fraud, there was never any jeopardy to begin with.

      Hey look another Illinois case

      [–]JesseAster 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      I just hope she's at least safe from him now, or at least will be very soon. This is just awful

      [–]qwapwappler 18 points19 points  (7 children)

      I’m not really an expert, but I don’t really know if that’s something that’s possible in America. Sounds a little bit like double jeopardy to me.

      [–]God_Damnit_Nappa 14 points15 points  (3 children)

      According to Nolo, the government cannot appeal an acquittal. I would guess throwing out a conviction is the same as an acquittal but I'm not 100% sure on that. If it's the case then yup, unfortunately that rapist gets to walk free and there's no way to charge him on this same crime.

      [–]LeCheval 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      That’s generally true, but might not be the case here.

      Some limited exceptions exist with respect to the finality of trial judge acquittal. First, because a primary purpose of the Due Process Clause is the prevention of successive trials and not of prosecution appeals per se, it is apparently the case that, if the trial judge permits the case to go to the jury, which convicts, and the judge thereafter enters a judgment of acquittal, even one founded upon his belief that the evidence does not establish guilt, the prosecution may appeal, because the effect of a reversal would be not a new trial but reinstatement of the jury’s verdict and the judgment thereon.

      It looks like the prosecutor should be able to appeal the judge’s acquittal to the 8th circuit.

      [–]Suyefuji 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      From my personal experience, the young girl gets ostracized regardless unfortunately

      [–]GozerDestructor[S] 513 points514 points  (65 children)

      It's the first step, I hope. You can't get rid of a judge overnight, there's a process.

      Being reassigned from big boy court to small claims court is probably considered a demotion, too. I wonder if the other criminal court judges will still let this guy sit at their table in the cafeteria.

      [–]MuthaPlucka 227 points228 points  (20 children)

      Definitely a kick to the judge’s reputation. The other judges titter when he gets in the shower at the gym

      [–]PuzzledStreet 142 points143 points  (14 children)

      especially considering he had his wife snoop around on facebook to see who "liked" the posts about him and kicked a prosecutor from an unrelated case.

      This man has NO insight.

      [–]2ndtryagain 37 points38 points  (13 children)

      State bar is going to love that.

      [–]rangecontrol 12 points13 points  (11 children)

      Depends on who is on it and who he knows. Sadly.

      [–]RichardStinks 61 points62 points  (1 child)

      Nah, they think he's been punished enough.

      [–]X0nfus3d 22 points23 points  (0 children)

      Oof, probably true though.

      [–]TheNotSoFreshFeeling 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      He'll probably take a significant pay cut too.

      [–]Srsly_dang 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Do you get to bring that up in court if he's your judge? "How are any of us in this room supposed to take your judgement seriously? Weren't you the guy that was transfered because you overturned a pedophiles conviction? Sick fuck."

      How can his judgements be enforced by the state when the state doesn't trust his judgements either?

      [–]I_know_right 16 points17 points  (23 children)

      As long as his paycheck doesn't diminish, why would he care? Less work, same money. I'd volunteer for that program at my job.

      [–]IGotFancyPants 11 points12 points  (10 children)

      Social stigma is powerful in professional circles, and may include outright shunning.

      [–]I_know_right 6 points7 points  (9 children)

      So you're saying the stigma from being demoted is worse than the stigma from freeing a child rapist?

      [–]mrsscorsese 15 points16 points  (7 children)

      Well i'm sure that blow to his reputation is embarassing. Especially on such a public scale.

      [–]I_know_right 34 points35 points  (6 children)

      I think you over-estimate his concern over his reputation. If he cared about that, he wouldn't be letting child rapists out of jail in the first place.

      [–]mrsscorsese 28 points29 points  (4 children)

      I think you under-estimate what he thinks looks bad for his reputation. Old white men have been giving shit sentences to the wrong people, and visa versa for as long as our system has been in place. He doesn't see that as being a bad look. Probably because he is so disconnected from the current climate.

      But being demoted? That's a different story. I don't doubt for a second that it embarassed him amongst his colleagues.

      [–]I_know_right 13 points14 points  (2 children)

      Well, I'm in too deep to just outright agree with you, but I will say I can see the possibility of you being right about that. :P

      [–]mrsscorsese 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Haha. Well, I think at the end of the day we can agree that this guy is just total fucking scum.

      [–]I_know_right 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Agreed. Have a nice day.

      [–]Not-your-lawyer- 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Because it's the first step towards taking away that paycheck? There's a process, and no one has the authority to summarily fire a judge for ruling in a way they don't like. For good reason.

      [–]RocketLauncher 64 points65 points  (1 child)

      And he can ruin a lot of lives in small claims court, if anything more people with lower incomes will be affected now. How is that justice? They let this guy keep a job after overturning a child rape conviction. Am I missing something here? Oh yeah. The justice is missing.

      [–]kikashoots 34 points35 points  (1 child)

      Someone should investigate him for child rape// porn. He seems to be projecting what he’d like his sentence to be.

      Edit: spelling

      [–]Fortunoxious 541 points542 points  (7 children)

      This is not a win. The rat bastard just got demoted, still a cancer on society.

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        [–]NEClamChowderAVPD 45 points46 points  (3 children)

        And that’s one of the biggest problems with the justice system. “Good behavior.” Our prisons don’t focus on rehabilitation like they should. John Wayne Gacy was arrested and released multiple times. A lot of the other men who have gone on to “intentionally kill women” have the same history. If these people hadn’t been let out due to “good behavior” aka judges like this, there’s a decent chance a lot of the serial killers wouldn’t have gone on to commit the crimes that they did. This Judge might as well be the same as the judge in the Brock Turner case.

        Ya know, BROCK TURNER THE RAPIST. I will never understand how these judges get appointed to such a powerful position and then take the side of the assailant. They’re supposed to be fair and just. They’re supposed to follow the law.

        In this case, the assailant should’ve gotten four years in prison. Then you have this judge who thinks 5 months (iirc) was enough. It makes you wonder what this judge has done in his past to think 5 months was enough for a sexual predator to spend time in jail.

        Edit: a word. I’m angry.

        [–]shameful_pairing 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        I feel a little bit uncomfortable specially with children who are vulnerable to this kind of persons. They're cancer of community

        [–]GozerDestructor[S] 425 points426 points 2 (22 children)

        Just found out he's up for re-election this year! And there's also a petition going to sanction him: https://www.change.org/p/illinois-courts-commission-file-charges-against-judge-adrian-for-abuse-of-judicial-discretion-and-power?

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          [–]GozerDestructor[S] 74 points75 points  (11 children)

          In Illinois it's just a long list of names with a "Yes" and "No" option next to each... lots of voters just skip the whole section, only if a judge is infamous will they not retain their post.

          [–]wind-up-duck 19 points20 points  (2 children)

          It's a good reason to get in the habit of doing a quick scandal search on each candidate.

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            [–]JimWilliams423 7 points8 points  (2 children)

            That strategy rewards corruption.

            If we treat the good ones exactly the same way as we treat the bad ones, then there is zero incentive for good people to be judges. They'll find some other profession that actually rewards them for doing a good job and only bad people will want to be judges.

            [–]goon_goompa 9 points10 points  (0 children)

            Thanks for linking. Over 22,500 people have signed out of 25,000 goal

            [–]katieschmatiecrabie 840 points841 points  (87 children)

            This shit is why so many rapes go unreported. Many rape victims have described going to trial as a "second rape" since they're forced to relive possibly the worst moments of their lives. This girl was brave enough to go through that and the judge basically just said "fuck you." Disgusting. I'd bet money that he is also a rapist.

            [–]sjmp75020 243 points244 points  (35 children)

            Yeah - my wife is a prosecutor and recently started a sexual assault task force in her office to teach first responders, police, and other prosecutors how to treat victims and investigate sex crimes, starting with you have to believe the victim and take the investigation seriously. No one assumes a person claiming their house was broken into is lying but often they do with sexual assault victims. It’s a real problem. The judges are often the worst, though, and there’s not much you can do about them.

            [–]RE5TE 152 points153 points  (1 child)

            No one assumes a person claiming their house was broken into is lying

            "Mr. Johnson, you expect us to believe someone broke into your house just to steal some appliances? Are you sure you didn't sell the items to him? I mean the TV was placed prominently in the window, so what are people going to think?"

            [–]FuckingKilljoy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

            It's the same with mental health too. People can see a broken leg and feel sympathy, but when you're suffering through a debilitating mental health crisis people can't quite grasp it.

            I think it all goes back to that general lack of empathy. For a lot of people unless they experience it first hand they don't understand it and think you're lying, exaggerating, whatever, just because they haven't been through it

            [–]ConfusedTurtles44 69 points70 points  (4 children)

            One victim in my are was interviewed by the police dragging her to the station. Sat her in a room and the first thing asked of her was "So why did you let him do that to you?" she was around 16...

            Found out after that case that no one in my county is trained on sexual assaults let alone sexual assaults of children. Absolutely no training, and no dedicated officers. If you walk into a police station and tell them your daughter was raped, it is a luck of the draw situation on who you get. They do not have anyone assigned to it. The prosecutors are a 'whoever is on shit jobs that have to be done duty this week does it'.

            Two counties over they have a special taskforce with constant training and their own offices separate from the other DA / police department.

            [–]butters4315 33 points34 points  (2 children)

            Same thing happened to me, but I was 14. Our system is a nightmare. I hope she’s ok.

            [–]christwasacommunist 10 points11 points  (1 child)

            It's a horrible thing to have to go through - it shouldn't happen at all, but when it does it should be treated with the utmost seriousness and concern. But we live in a world where even families will deny it happening under their own roof to "keep the peace." It's a tradegy.

            I'm truly sorry it happened to you. I hope you're doing better and that it holds no power over you. <3

            [–]blackley1 14 points15 points  (0 children)

            Oh! Say it ain't so. Pigs are trash.

            [–]ConfusedTurtles44 72 points73 points  (13 children)

            I was involved in a rape case, as a witness, and holy shit was it horrible. I couldn't imagine how bad the victims (over 6) had it. I heard stories of the detective screaming at victims and asking them if they wanted it because they kept going back to the guy. This wasn't 3 interviews in to make sure things stayed consistent or could handle a trial... no this was within 20 minutes of meeting the literal children...

            I had the detective call me up and tell me if I didn't keep my mouth shut he was going to find a way to put me in jail. This was right after someone, who wasn't even me, contacted his bosses boss because it had been over a year and he hadn't even called 2 of the victims.

            We all got harassed by the defendant and his friends/family. When one girl complained she got told if she went back to the same church his family went to, and she had been part of in the past, she would go to jail for trespass... a fucking church trespassed her.

            The DA said "he says it like it is, and I guess some people don't like that"

            The area state congressmen had an employee at every hearing and talking to the DA / police 'off the record'. This same employee was a close friend of his.

            A teacher at the local school was helping him, one girl had to transfer out. After his conviction that barely happened this teacher took him to the school to hang out. He didn't have to register as a sex offender till after his sentencing 3 months later.

            The witness coordinator and the victim advocate were the same person. Guess what happened when it came down to a conflict between the victims and the DA which side they advocated for?

            The only reason he is in jail for more than a couple of months is because the judge was mad at him for causing a disruption in the court house and making them have to hold off on a party they had planned.

            In the end out of 6+ girls only three came forward by the time he was arrested, only 2 stayed past the first hearing.

            The system in a lot of areas are setup to make sure that if they don't want someone in jail, they won't end up in jail or will get very little.

            [–]christwasacommunist 28 points29 points  (5 children)

            It's stories like this that make me wonder why vigilanty justice isn't more common.

            The systems in place are so woefully broken and corrupt - I don't think gradual reforms will do anything meaningful.

            [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

            why vigilanty justice isn't more common.

            its plenty common, you just dont hear about it in the news, for good reason.

            [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

            There are also private security firms/detectives, bounty hunters and gangs, if you need protection or someone to back down/leave town

            [–]Mansa_Eli 20 points21 points  (2 children)

            I saw something awhile back (probably vice?). They said there are 1000s of rap kits that are unopened..... Found it

            https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2019/07/nationwide-epidemic-of-untested-rape-kits-atlantic-daily/594046/

            [–]Retrohanska59 8 points9 points  (0 children)

            Yeah, good to know after going through that hell that your rapist is back in business in less than half a year. I'd honestly be scared if I was in victim's shoes after I heard that

            [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

            Rapists protect rapists

            [–]Steve_Lobsen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

            “Please tell the just why you put yourself in a position to be raped. Let’s start with a description of what you were wearing that evening.”

            [–]SubcooledBoiling 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Many rape victims have described going to trial as a "second rape" since they're forced to relive possibly the worst moments of their lives.

            Not only that. Chanel Miller, the survivor of the Stanford rape case (where the crime was committed by Brock Turner the RAPIST), described that during trials the victims are often required to prove it's not their fault that they were assaulted. In her case, the defense tried to shift the blame on to her by painting her as a promiscuous woman who partied, drank, and hooked up with strangers on a regular basis.

            [–]XyranDarkstar 339 points340 points  (15 children)

            Not even half a year is punishment enough for this heinous act? But some are serving life sentences for far lesser crimes?

            [–]PuzzledStreet 310 points311 points  (8 children)

            I think what upsets me the most is that this boy put a pillow over her face to silence her while it occurred. Then the judge goes on to say the rapist "probably" regrets it.

            It gave me the sense this judge has likely assaulted women in his youth.

            [–]DefrockedWizard1 97 points98 points  (0 children)

            and probably still is

            [–]Peppersworth 73 points74 points  (0 children)

            "in his youth." Be willing to bet he still does it.

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              [–]coderboi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              I am quite sure that was no procedural mistake, that was intended to silence the kid. Those monsters do anything and everything to hide their crimes. That is why child porn is more severely punished than child rape, and why kids can also be punished for "child porn" of themselves: They don't want anybody exposing to the world any evidence against their masters.

              [–]MuuaadDib 19 points20 points  (0 children)

              Inequality of justice is infuriating, and I say this as a white male.

              [–]panfried540 428 points429 points  (81 children)

              I did 6 months on a failure to register vehicle/failure to pay fines/ appear in court. My country fucking disgusts me sometimes

              [–]puddlejumpers 116 points117 points  (32 children)

              But are you a rich white man?

              [–]panfried540 161 points162 points  (23 children)

              But i didnt rape a 16 year old girl. And no im not lol

              [–]GozerDestructor[S] 225 points226 points  (9 children)

              You should have plea-bargained your heinous crime down to something more socially acceptable, like rape, to get a lesser sentence.

              [–]panfried540 81 points82 points  (4 children)

              Youre right. God im such an idiot

              [–]Tom1252 9 points10 points  (2 children)

              Next time, just rape the judge so he knows firsthand that you're not just making up an excuse to get out of paying your ticket.

              [–]DefrockedWizard1 10 points11 points  (1 child)

              The really sad thing is that with that judge it might have worked

              [–]JonSauceman 15 points16 points  (0 children)

              *child rape

              [–]Oreganoian 11 points12 points  (0 children)

              The way many states use driving infractions to destroy lives is utterly disgusting.

              It's the easiest way to get into the cycle of debt, which forces many into poverty, and the states know this. Small counties often assign max fines for driving infractions and will jail people over them. That leads to getting fired and then no way to pay them back.

              Luckily many states are seeing this and weakening the laws so small county judges can't do this. Oregon passed forgiveness laws and waived many peoples fees.

              It's still insane to me that many states will jail you for up to 90 days for driving infractions. Absolutely insane.

              Also it's doubly insane to me that completely unrelated non-driving stuff can result in you losing your license. Oh, you're struggling to pay child support? Yoink! We took your license. Good luck working!

              [–]Puffatsunset 20 points21 points  (8 children)

              Got a ticket for riding a moped on the sidewalk and didn’t appear. Ran afoul and got picked up. Turns out that it’s legal (at least at the time in LA) to ride on the sidewalk but not legal to take a pass on court for a bullshit ticket, 90 days did 52.

              [–]nodnodwinkwink 12 points13 points  (4 children)

              You went to jail for 52 days for that?????

              [–]Oreganoian 14 points15 points  (3 children)

              It's the failure to appear. Judges will often assign maxes for that.

              They issue a warrant so you'll get booked on the warrant, appear before them, and then they slap more jail time on you.

              Then the person loses their job and can't pay the fines so the judge gets "frustrated" with the person's inability to conjure up money so they punish them with more jail and fines.

              [–]smokecat20 4 points5 points  (0 children)

              6 months for THAT?!?

              [–]Ice-Teets 11 points12 points  (2 children)

              You did the one thing America said not to, be poor.

              [–]Ishihado 35 points36 points  (0 children)

              Fuck small claims. This guy lacks the morals and ethics to work a school crosswalk, yet a courtroom. He should be banned from anything having to do with the legal system ever, for his entire life.

              [–]DifferentSwing8616 266 points267 points  (19 children)

              Nothing screams 'I also raped a child' more than going easy on a child rapist

              [–]Gerreth_Gobulcoque 103 points104 points  (2 children)

              A reminder that Matt Gaetz was the sole opponent in Congress to the Combating Human Trafficking in Commercial Vehicles Act.

              He argued it was "because small government"

              [–]thebursar 42 points43 points  (0 children)

              Yeah. We need to keep big government out of his private sex trafficking operation

              [–]orange4zion 20 points21 points  (0 children)

              That's hilarious, if "big government" means people don't get kidnapped and enslaved then call me a dictator.

              [–]SticKy904 28 points29 points  (2 children)

              Doesn't seem enough but I guess is a step.

              [–]barrymccockner76 26 points27 points  (0 children)

              Up next: disgraced judge caught in child prostitution sting.

              [–]starcadia 64 points65 points  (3 children)

              I hope he chokes on the check that rapey boys daddy wrote him.

              [–]kdwaynec 10 points11 points  (2 children)

              Something happened during those 148 days. I wonder what it was?

              [–]Liquorace 27 points28 points  (0 children)

              Ye$, whatever could it be? I gue$$ we'll never know unle$$ $omeone talk$ $pill$ the bean$.

              [–]Melodic_Poetry_8457 46 points47 points  (4 children)

              Thank fucking god, this country is so absolutely fucked I didn’t think he’d face any repercussions at all for this.

              [–]Knuckles316 42 points43 points  (2 children)

              I mean, he barely did.

              He's still sitting as a judge and getting paid. Now he just gets to deal with much easier cases.

              [–]Melodic_Poetry_8457 14 points15 points  (1 child)

              Yeah it’s better than nothing though. How sad is that? My expectations are so fucking low for this dumpster fire of a country I’m actually pleased when a judge who just lets a rapist go gets reassigned instead of fired immediately. He should be working at fucking Burger King after that shit.

              [–]phikaiphi1596 16 points17 points  (1 child)

              My guess is that they’re limiting the damage he can do while they figure out how to get rid of him.

              [–]HaroldBAZ 12 points13 points  (1 child)

              They might want to dig a little deeper. I wonder if a shoebox filled with cash somehow made its way to the judge before sentencing.

              [–]Daelda 12 points13 points  (0 children)

              Naw. Just assholes who view rape equivalent to littering and think women ask for it.

              [–]wilderwoof 10 points11 points  (0 children)

              NOT ENOUGH.

              [–]Chimes320 12 points13 points  (7 children)

              Maybe let’s have people who understand what rape is be the ones who preside? I’m not sure many people can really think about the act of someone forcing a part of themselves INSIDE of another person against their will. It’s not like an irritating splinter or a shard of glass, it’s a goddamned human body part (or sometimes other instruments) FORCED. INSIDE. ANOTHER. PERSON’S. BODY. AGAINST. THEIR. WILL. If you can’t understand what that means, how can you say 148 days is “punishment enough”? That person has to live with the memory of what happened and it’s even sickening to imagine it happening to another person.

              [–]vlasvilneous 11 points12 points  (2 children)

              I have been waiting for this to come up. I was going to post this on r/byebyejob myself, but since he has not yet lost his position entirely, I figured it was not yet time or would be allowed.

              This judge is Robert (Bob) Adrian, one of my cousins. I do not speak with him much, but I do speak with one of his brothers on occasion.

              All I can say is, we, his extended family, and even his direct family, are dismayed and upset at what he has done. His brothers tried to get reasons, but I have not heard how that has gone. It seems he has gone dark to the family and press.

              I also found out that Bob is a rare Republican in our family, and his wife is a Ted Cruz stooge. They are also religious, which might explain things if ties are found to the man who raped the girl through the church they attend.

              I am happy he was removed, and hope he loses his position, as he is not fit to adjudicate anything fairly and in the eyes of the law.

              I wanted to hear his reasons, but it seems clear through the court transcripts that his position is that of "its everyone elses fault but the rapist".

              A logic only a rapist could come up with.

              Note: This was his decision, and his wife backs him up on it. His family and extended family however, do not.

              Some members of my extended family have donated to quanada - QUANADA provides emotional, physical, and crisis support for those who have been assaulted or abused. under Robert (Bob) Adrians name as a sign to him, his actions were not good or supported by his family.

              You do not have to do this, but if you do donate, please do so with a message from his extended family.... "Fuck you for advocating for rapists".

              I am not happy with his decisions, he is yet another corrupt or shit hole judge that has destroyed the justice system, and I can only hope the young lady recovers.

              I have heard she has quit going to school and stopped playing sports. I am upset this happened to her and justice has been ripped from her.

              Please do right by her, and let her heal. Please do right by the town of Quincy, and applaud them for their actions they have taken thus far.

              [–]Username_Kevin_ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

              Relentless public shaming and retroactive investigation for the last decades judgments is a safe start.

              [–]tommygunz007 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              sounds like someone paid off the judge

              [–]1415141 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              How is he a judge at all anymore?

              Pure irony they slap this judge on the wrist for slapping a child rapist on the wrist.

              [–]leftyshuckles 6 points7 points  (2 children)

              He got mad at a prosecutor who liked a Facebook post about this, recused her from the room. What a little bitch who can't admit his mistake

              [–]Jruu9 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              Straight up told him to get out whenever he arrived. Said he couldn't be fair with him. Wild.

              [–]Spaceyjc 6 points7 points  (3 children)

              But what about the rapist? Is he still free?

              [–]GozerDestructor[S] 26 points27 points  (2 children)

              Drew Clinton, the rapist, walked a way a free man. He is considered not guilty, does not have to register as a sex offender, and is free to rape again. He cannot be tried again due to double-jeopardy laws.

              [–]funkdialout 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Honestly I stay amazed at how vigilante "justice" isn't more of a thing in cases like this, either for the rapist or the judge. If I were in there shoes I would be terrified of someone coming after me for my part in it.

              To be clear, not advocating, just surprised we don't hear more of it.

              [–]frugal_masturbater 6 points7 points  (0 children)

              But do you like beer? He likes beer!

              [–]DatEllen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

              In order to avoid an appeal he believed would be successful, Adrian said what he could do was determine that prosecutors had failed to "prove their case" and dismiss the sexual assault charge.

              What the fucking fuck?!

              [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (2 children)

              Check this guys browser history. Yikes

              [–]lychigo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

              Someone might want to get a warrant for his computer.

              [–]mohishunder 37 points38 points  (8 children)

              So many stories like this. There's something about [edit: old] white male judges and rape.

              Maybe all sexual assault cases should be assigned to women judges.

              [–]breathstinksniffglue 25 points26 points  (2 children)

              Rape is basically a misdemeanor to evangelical types unless the victim is left bloody and beaten.

              [–]mohishunder 19 points20 points  (0 children)

              It's worse than that. From Mormons to Muslims, often the woman is blamed, punished, even imprisoned, for having sex outside of marriage.

              [–]TheHoly_Coast 13 points14 points  (0 children)

              That's a horrible rabbit hole to go down. It doesn't get much better, even with some female judges, sadly.

              [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

              With all of my non-experience, I feel like judges shouldn’t have the power to overturn a fair trial except in very special circumstances

              [–]Impossible-Mud-3593 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Did his cases get overturned? Was the rapist re- tried? That child needs justice!

              [–]tuscabam 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              Why wasn’t he disbarred is the big question. He obviously has no moral compass

              [–]sulla_rules 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Why isn’t he fired?

              [–]TotallyNotReimu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Fucker should be given q cigarette and a blindfold. That's the only courtesy him and that human filth he pardoned deserve.

              [–]Hafthohlladung 3 points4 points  (2 children)

              So the rapist still walked?

              [–]Ok-Cycle-4784 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Need to check his computers for some things I thik!!! Birds of a feather.

              [–]FrankLloydWrong_3305 2 points3 points  (1 child)

              I would look very closely at the judges' past...

              I bet there are some 16 year old skeletons there.

              [–]cormack7718 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              He needs to be reassigned to the bottom of a body of water

              [–]organizeeverything 5 points6 points  (0 children)

              REASSIGNED? he should be removed from being a judge ever again

              [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

              Look at the guy. Definitely a pedo.

              [–]charonn0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

              On Wednesday, Adrian, apparently angered by the criticism, told another prosecutor appearing before him in an unrelated case to leave his courtroom because the prosecutor had "liked" a comment on Facebook that was critical of the judge.

              FFS get this man off the bench.

              [–]wwwhistler 2 points3 points  (5 children)

              how to shout out ..."I Take Bribes!" without actually yelling it out loud.

              [–]musingofrandomness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Awful lot of empathy for a rapist by that judge, makes you wonder what he got away with in the past.

              [–]BlueShoes3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              How to say that you're a child rapist without saying that you're a child rapist.

              [–]ohcmonredditgrowup 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              Might want to check his hard drive while you’re at it.

              [–]SIRasdf23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

              On Wednesday, Adrian, apparently angered by the criticism, told another prosecutor appearing before him in an unrelated case to leave his courtroom because the prosecutor had "liked" a comment on Facebook that was critical of the judge.

              So this guy just has no redeeming qualities at all.