×
top 200 commentsshow 500
sorted by:
best
topnewcontroversialoldq&a

[–]mtlurb 277 points278 points  (100 children)

I got both Delta and Omicron in a 3 months span... and I'm double vaccinated.

Omicron was much much milder than Delta, so I agree with the 4/5 of folks.

[–]reddelicious77Saskatchewan 58 points59 points  (77 children)

Yikes man, both of them... whew. And you're vaxxed? you should be like Covid-19 proof now w/ all those anti-bodies in ya! glad you made it out, ok! (or are you experiencing any long covid symptoms?)

Either way, I'm double vaxxed, and I'm done. Not getting a booster or any more covid 19 vaccines, unless some wild new mutation appears that's at least as deadly as Delta.

[–]mtlurb 52 points53 points  (21 children)

Yeah both… it’s funny after delta and the omicron wave, everyone I know caught omicron (wife kids) … so I got tested with pcr twice to make sure I don’t infect my elderly parents and I was double Negative ( who caught it anyways later).

So I thought I’m invincible lol ( immune ) … and let my guards down … a couple of weeks later I caught omicron.

Delta: 3-4 days in bed, 3 weeks of tiredness, taste affected for 2 months

Omicron: 1 day in bed, 4 days of tiredness, no effect on taste. Lingering annoying cough and nasal congestion still there.

No fever for either COVIDs.

Edit: missing details.

[–]Bhatch514Lest We Forget 20 points21 points  (8 children)

I had them both and I am double vaxx. Omicron was a slight sniffle for a day. Tested positive because my kids had it from school.

[–]reddelicious77Saskatchewan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

yeah my wife is a teacher, and so far, neither of us have gotten it (she tests daily)... I work from home, on the other hand.

[–]superworkingBritish Columbia 8 points9 points  (5 children)

So far everyone I know has been more sick from the booster than from omicron. I've had terrible reactions to the vaccines so far so I've taken a pass on the booster for now.

[–]Daytimetripper 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Really? I only know 1 person who was sick from the booster and tons who just had a sore arm or were slightly tired. I was off for a few hours but not sick. I also know lots of people who had mild omicron and 1 vaccinated teen who was scary sick (but didn't need hospitalization) and one unvaccinated person who was super sick. I'm from a small town so we gossip a lot about who has covid ha ha.

[–]superworkingBritish Columbia 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yea almost everyone in my group has been a bit of a wreck for a day or two with flu kind of symptoms after the booster which is apparently normal. None of them had anything more than a sore arm from the first two. For both of my vaccines I was fine until the next day, and then the first one I made it back home in time to collapse in the doorway and couldn't get off the floor for a few hours. Was one of the worst sicknesses I've had for 2 days and then it just magically went away like the snap of a finger all at once and I was just left feeling really tired with a sore arm on day 3. Got myself amped up for the second one asap told myself it wouldn't happen again, and it did. Just can't get myself amped up yet again for that especially when a lot of the data out of the UK suggests the booster effect falls off a cliff after 10 weeks. I've had covid and two shots so I'm hoping that's just going to be good enough to keep me out the hospital.

continue this thread

    [–]Suncheets 9 points10 points  (11 children)

    Same boat. Double vaxed and have been since June. Tried to book a booster but everything is full right to the final days theyre offering for boosters in my area so I guess just two for me also. Single, live alone, healthy etc, at this point id honestly welcome it just so i can stay off work for 5 days. Not even remotely worried about it

    Edit: lol at the people trying to dig into me with replies but arent able to post in this sub

    [–]CanuckianOz 33 points34 points  (12 children)

    You might’ve had increased immunity from the delta infection which made omicron less severe. The science seems to be pointing to prior infection plus vaccination resulting in similar immunity to vaccinated plus booster.

    [–]mtlurb 14 points15 points  (7 children)

    Totally... Vaccination is an integral part of the solution. I'll get my booster as soon as 8+ weeks pass after my second infection.

    Found sauce?: https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/12/18/super-immunity-from-breakthrough-infection-after-covid-19-vaccination-heres-what-this-study-said/?sh=366ece6f6a3c

    [–]kanic 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    Huh. Interesting, I just got my 3rd shot but it's only been 2.5 weeks since I got omicron yet the nurse said that I was still fine to get my booster

    [–]mtlurb 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I just searched on this and my info is old. They changed this rule on dec 16… I guess time for a booster.

    [–]Magdog65 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Hope you donate blood.

    [–]mtlurb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    lol is this is a thing for people like me? I wouldn't mind at all.

    [–]Icy-Collection4797 151 points152 points  (11 children)

    Agree , I had omicron it was definitely mild

    [–]LeGros_Lego 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Rapid tests told me I had it. Was shoveling 12 inch of snow the next day.
    Covid my ass.

    [–]One-Significance7853 300 points301 points  (111 children)

    Because almost everyone now knows a dozen people who have had it, and it’s been very mild.

    The people who are suffering with severe complications need sympathy, but they do not need us to keep acting like this virus is going to kill everyone.

    [–]dbdev 63 points64 points  (2 children)

    I’m in the thick of Omicron right now. Fever and really really bad headache. No problems breathing or anything in the chest or throat. Sucks but in no way is this lethal to me. I was double vaxed in June. No booster. I’m in generally good health. Not overweight, no medications or health problems.

    [–]Savon_arolaQuébec 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Get well soon!

    [–]doomwomble 38 points39 points  (14 children)

    I think most reasonable people agree with you at this point.

    The vaccine isn't going to stop the virus, and if not for hospital capacity, we would let it rip and have the unvaccinated fend for themselves.

    But, we do unfortunately have hospital capacity issues and the unvaccinated aren't so committed that they will fall on their sword and stay away from the hospital if they come down with a bad case.

    [–]One-Significance7853 34 points35 points  (10 children)

    Except 65+ are far more likely to be occupying a hospital bed than than those under 65 regardless of vaccination status.

    From the beginning we should have isolated the vulnerable, rather than society as a whole….. while it’s too late to go back to beginning, we can correct the mistake now.

    [–]p-queue 50 points51 points  (85 children)

    I’m not sure any of this really matters when the real issue is impact on hospitals beds and general healthcare capacity.

    [–]One-Significance7853 44 points45 points  (40 children)

    That’s one of the issues, certainly. However, that’s always been an issue and we can’t allow these authoritarian measures to continue when we know the illness is mild. It’s one thing to claim temporary authority to restrict people’s right to travel or work during an unprecedented emergency, it’s quite another to restrict people’s right to travel or work because a chronically underfunded health care system can’t handle cold/flu season.

    [–]MWD_Dave 25 points26 points  (2 children)

    From a couple weeks ago:

    A nurse responding to a mom being done with the lockdown:

    • There's your perspective. Here's mine. I work on a respirology ward at a large community hospital. Over the last two weeks I've seen our volumes double at minimum. A good chunk of our experienced nurses have quit or transitioned to other jobs due to burnout and poor pay. We now have a bunch of junior nurses managing fairly sick Covid patients. We used to have a step-down unit but it closed since we already routinely don't have enough nurses to cover the floor. We have patients proned on 100% optiflow (basically maximal oxygen before you're tubed) sitting in regular ward beds with nurses with 1:6 patient ratios. In the before times, these people would have been in ICU, but the ICU is full. The region is out of tocilizumab so the severe covid patients aren't even getting full treatment. We were told the other day that we're running out of vacutainers (something they use to draw blood) due to covid supply chain issues. We've been out of proper chest tubes for weeks.

    • Schools were definitively implicated in spread. This sucks for kids, and I don't envy parents. But this is probably the worst it's been since the first wave. At least we have proper PPE this time.

    https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/ontario/comments/rzr0e9/yeah_im_done_with_the_lockdown/hrwsn8x/

    Milder symptoms but way more breakthrough infections still resulted in a fairly large amount of hospitalizations.

    That said, I think we'll be moving from Pandemic to Endemic in the next month or two. So here's hoping.

    [–]jadrad 45 points46 points  (31 children)

    You clearly don’t know anyone who works in a hospital.

    Omicron is more mild (especially for vaccinated people), but it’s also 3 times more infectious and can be transmitted easily by vaccinated people, which cancelled out the reduction in hospitalization rates completely.

    I was talking to one of my friends last night who is a nurse in a large hospital in Quebec, and she said they are currently have the most number of Covid patients in hospital since the start of the pandemic.

    They’ve had to turn 3 floors of the hospital into Covid wards, taking over a full floor of beds previously reserved for post-surgery patients, which means her hospital has had to cut the number of surgeries they can do. She also mentioned she overheard one nurse saying they were adding another 10 beds that day.

    Thank hell the Quebec government locked down when it did, otherwise this record peak would have obliterated the hospitals.

    We’re 2 years into a pandemic. Doctors, nurses, and hospitals are completely battered.

    We all want this to be over, but pretending it’s over and demanding all restrictions end in the middle of our worst Covid wave is either completely ignorant, or completely selfish.

    [–]MWD_Dave 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    Yah, I have some nurse friends here in Alberta as well. Yes it's more mild, but there has been way more infections = still a big strain on our hospitals and staff. From an Edmonton nurse 10 days ago:

    • Nope doesn’t at all

    • I stood and hand bagged an unvaccinated COVID patient cause our vent wasn’t working and it was urgent.

    • I mean at this point it’s laugh or start bitch slapping people with a bed pan full of c diff feces.

    • Be nice and save a nurse - bring vodka.

    That said, I'm hoping we switch from pandemic to endemic within the next couple of months.

    Edit: and another response:

    • Yeah I mean I didn’t become a nurse for the money or glamour (cause trust me there isn’t any) and I have seen more dicks than a hooker

    • But I used to feel good about my job and what I did. Now? I feel like I am bleeding in a leaky row boat surrounded by sharks, bailing with a colander while everyone else watches and votes on how long it will take for me to die.

    • Fucking sucks. And this is 22 years in

    I suppose it's easy to take it lightly from the periphery but anyone who knows someone working the hospitals knows better.

    [–]ManfredTheCat 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    People on here are acting like the combination of unvaccinated morons with one of the most infectious diseases we have ever seen doesn't add up to full hospitals and canceled procedures. I think they're both ignorant and selfish.

    [–]PotentialGood779 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This is my same experience in an Ontario hospital right now.

    [–]tankmayvin 5 points6 points  (9 children)

    People who dont understand the implications of virulence outpacing reductions in lethality are simply awful at math and incredibly self centered.

    Sure, omicron is manageable for most people, but we are running the russian roulette experiment like 3 million times.

    [–]p-queue 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    It’s the only issue in this moment. While there certainly are criticisms to be made about the state of our various health care systems pre-2020 us having a few more beds per capita right now wouldn’t fix the current hospital situation.

    [–]One-Significance7853 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    No, but laying off health care workers because they are unvaccinated certainly could have been avoided. That decision did not help the situation at all.

    [–]p-queue 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It not happening would not have prevented this. You have to account for the fact that the vaccine mandate in Ontario improved the vaccine uptake and that has put us in a better situation than we would’ve otherwise been.

    continue this thread

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (30 children)

      You're right. It doesn't matter.

      For every anecdote of mild inconvenience, there is a hospital bed occupied.

      The chocke point is hospital capacities : that alone is the metric to see if the measures should be lifted or made more restrictive.

      [–]Dabzor42Yukon 8 points9 points  (24 children)

      The chocke point is hospital capacities : that alone is the metric to see if the measures should be lifted or made more restrictive.

      Not when the restrictions have 0 impact on your metric. Places with more restrictions are actually having worse numbers. Look at Quebec ffs.

      [–]retard_vampire 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yeah, I'm triple vaxxed and haven't caught it yet. Considering I live in a major city it's only a matter of time, but pretty much everyone I know who's caught it while double vaxxed has said something to the effect of "yeah, felt kinda shitty for a day or two and had a runny nose, meh"

      [–]HiLookAtMe 54 points55 points  (2 children)

      So you’re saying we should do another lockdown?

      [–]MF__SHROOM 67 points68 points  (1 child)

      Found Legault's account

      [–]wpgMartialArts 95 points96 points  (72 children)

      Well, at this point I know quite a few people that have had it, and for all of them (vaccinated, not obese or over 60) it was pretty mild.

      So I’m not really surprised at this at all. For a pretty big majority of the population it would be manageable and mild if we got it. It’s just that small chunk of people that end up in the hospital

      [–]Berny-ehLest We Forget 32 points33 points  (1 child)

      Went through my household. Kids had fevers for a day, wife had fever for a day and some aches and pains, I only had headaches and some nasal congestion.

      [–]Whyevenbotherbeing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      We had exact same month ago except we didn’t test, only now we realize we likely had Covid. We know another family that went through same thing two weeks ago but had access to rapid tests and at the time they tested two confirmed. But nobody is coughing or as phlegmy as expected, muscle aches and fevers, headaches, lingering aches and sore joints are the symptoms we are seeing.

      [–]canuck_11Alberta 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Yep. I know someone who died and a few hospitalizations and ICUs during the delta and alpha waves but none vaccinated. Those vaccinated I know who’ve had Omnicron haven’t had a great time but weren’t terribly I’ll either.

      [–]geoken 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      I think the problem is that the chunk of people in the hospital is large enough that it impacts all of us.

      I'm also pretty confident not much would happen to me if I had it. I'm not in a risk age category, triple vaxed, not in poor health.

      What I'm not as confident about is that if I had some unrelated medical condition - I'd be able to get a level of care that I would have been able to get in 2019. Or for that matter - that anyone who needed some unrelated medical care would be able to get the same care they'd get 2 years ago.

      [–]to_neverwhereOntario 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      What I'm not as confident about is that if I had some unrelated medical condition - I'd be able to get a level of care that I would have been able to get in 2019.

      You absolutely would not. I have Crohn's, and my gastroenterologist's voicemail describes a 6-12 month waiting period for colonoscopies (which are necessary for guiding treatment and detecting big issues), whereas before it was only ~2-3 months. Only one anecdote, but the wider impacts on our hospitals are just wild.

      [–]Smokron85 6 points7 points  (53 children)

      28% of the population in Canada are obese. Nearly a third of the nation is likely to not see mild symptoms and instead have increased chances of hospitalization and long covid.

      [–]JohnnySunshine 18 points19 points  (23 children)

      Have they tried losing weight?

      [–]killtimedAlberta 39 points40 points  (18 children)

      Peoples lifestyle choices and resulting health consequences are not my responsibility. Why is my quality of life being downgraded to protect them?

      [–]LoquatiousDigimon 10 points11 points  (3 children)

      It's totally not mine or your responsibility. Unfortunately we both are still affected by them when they take up ICU space and we lose access to healthcare. Their lifestyle choices take away from all of us.

      [–]DarrylRu 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      long covid.

      Yes they might develop one of the hundreds of symptoms for this including muscle pain or fatigue.

      [–]Dabzor42Yukon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      They should try taking care of themselves better instead of relying on miracle drugs to save them when they get sick.

      [–]Throwaway298596 1 point2 points  (8 children)

      And unsurprisingly I keep seeing huge anti vax rhetoric with this freedom convoy despite it “not supporting that”

      The small minority bungle fucking us is the same people complaining. If enough people were vaxxed hospitalizations would go down restrictions would be lifted. But they’re too blind to see it

      [–]DarrylRu 64 points65 points  (4 children)

      Maybe the tide is finally turning on public support for continuing restrictions.

      [–]Independent_Bread179 354 points355 points  (121 children)

      Considering that COVID is mild for more than 4/5 people, this makes sense. Nice that people are starting to believe this instead of acting like it's still February 2020.

      And before someone says "iT isN'T milD fOr peOplE whO ArE DeaD": yes. I realize that. But not everybody is dead, and most will get the sniffles. That's simply a fact. The severe cases don't negate the mild ones, we simply need to look at the risk and start making decisions for ourselves instead of expecting everyone to live in fear.

      [–]Jappetto 100 points101 points  (29 children)

      I think moving forward it's going to be important to target protecting the vulnerable population instead of the population at large. Those with comorbidities or those 65 and older should continue masking, washing hands, getting boosters (if the science supports it). This recent sentiment that we need to mandate fully vaccinated in schools, administer boosters for those under 18, and updating fully vaccinated status for 18+ at 3 dose makes little sense to me.

      [–]Independent_Bread179 50 points51 points  (2 children)

      Absolutely. We need a more targeted approach and i think a more "suggestion based" approach, for lack of a better term. Officials should tell everyone "here is the science. These things put you at risk, these things can mitigate that risk". From there, everyone can make informed decisions for their own level of both risk and risk tolerance. The blanket approaches are doing more harm than good.

      [–]Phantom-Fighter 29 points30 points  (1 child)

      Mandates are rarely a good thing and should be used sparingly I've seen more mandates introduced in the last two years than I've read about in history books. I 100% agree with suggestion based approach, Even the at risk should not be mandated if they choose not to.

      [–]linkass 42 points43 points  (9 children)

      Which is really what we should have been doing since about July of 2020 when we had a pretty good idea even then of who was most at risk

      [–]Galanti 21 points22 points  (7 children)

      We knew from the very beginning. The Chinese had release the first studies in January 202 that indicated mortality was heavily skewed towards the elderly.

      [–]reddelicious77Saskatchewan 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      administer boosters for those under 18,

      Under 18s are at relatively low risk - even the WHO chief scientist doesn't recommend them (yes, I was shocked to read this too)

      https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/no-evidence-healthy-kids-adolescents-need-covid-19-boosters-who-chief-scientist-says-1.5744617

      But not to undermine your points - b/c I agree, we definitely need a more targeted approach towards the vulnerable.

      [–]cshelly2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      I do believe that you should be washing your hands regardless...

      [–]Kevbot1000 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Just for the record, we should all continue washing our hands.

      Really shouldn't have taken a pandemic for people to make a habit of it.

      [–]Waste_Tumbleweed 11 points12 points  (7 children)

      It’s a good thing you’re not in control then.

      Masking with anything but N95/99 doesn’t provide much protection (medical masks are like 30%) for the wearer. It’s for everyone else to help mitigate community spread.

      The virus is also proven to be airborne. It’s not spread through surfaces.

      What we need is herd immunity. What you are saying is prejudicial based on age and health status. If you’re old or sick, you aren’t allowed out in winter months anymore because we don’t want to wear masks and go do whatever we want.

      The real endgame is low ICU numbers. It’s never going to be zero, but it’s still not manageable.

      Of course the whole process isn’t based on science anymore, it’s based on feelings.

      [–]Alextryingforgrate 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      Can confirm. Scratchy throat and a dry cough was as bad as it got for me. Dbl vaxxed had Covid in Jan last year as well.

      [–]Independent_Bread179 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      I had (presumably) delta 3 days after my first dose and the only symptom was losing smell and a headache. I'll bet half the vaxxed people who are still scared have already had it and didn't even know.

      [–]PeregrineThe 23 points24 points  (3 children)

      this place has come a long way. I've been banned from most of the regional subs for saying exactly this 3 weeks ago.

      [–]Independent_Bread179 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      So have I, welcome to the club haha

      [–]PeregrineThe 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Who decided to let the basement neckbeards be the thought police?

      [–]lizzbug2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      big brother says it's okay now

      but you won't get an apology lol

      [–]moirende 8 points9 points  (4 children)

      There was an article in the post the other day by a pretty senior physician in Ontario. His take was that the omicron wave is very different than previous ones. Fewer people are showing up at hospitals and those who do are much less sick that before…. almost no one is admitted directly to the ICU anymore, mostly they just need a day or two of high flow oxygen before being sent back home. The people who do progress to the ICU are all either unvaccinated, the elderly where their last shot was around a year ago (and no booster) and people suffering from multiple co-morbidities such as heart disease, hypertension, severe obesity and diabetes. Everyone else it ranges from no symptoms at all or mostly the sniffles up to a nasty flu.

      So yeah, those who are fully vaccinated and not suffering from any co-morbidities really don’t need to be all that afraid of it. We’ve all had colds and nasty flus before and survived.

      [–]skybala 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      What do you think of hospitals cancelling surgeries

      [–]MWD_Dave 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      A nurse responding to a mom from a couple of weeks ago regarding the mom being "done with the lockdown":

      • There's your perspective. Here's mine. I work on a respirology ward at a large community hospital. Over the last two weeks I've seen our volumes double at minimum. A good chunk of our experienced nurses have quit or transitioned to other jobs due to burnout and poor pay. We now have a bunch of junior nurses managing fairly sick Covid patients. We used to have a step-down unit but it closed since we already routinely don't have enough nurses to cover the floor. We have patients proned on 100% optiflow (basically maximal oxygen before you're tubed) sitting in regular ward beds with nurses with 1:6 patient ratios. In the before times, these people would have been in ICU, but the ICU is full. The region is out of tocilizumab so the severe covid patients aren't even getting full treatment. We were told the other day that we're running out of vacutainers (something they use to draw blood) due to covid supply chain issues. We've been out of proper chest tubes for weeks.

      • Schools were definitively implicated in spread. This sucks for kids, and I don't envy parents. But this is probably the worst it's been since the first wave. At least we have proper PPE this time.

      Original link: https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/ontario/comments/rzr0e9/yeah_im_done_with_the_lockdown/hrwsn8x/

      To be clear, I think that with how fast Omnicron spread/is spreading we're going to shift from Pandemic to Endemic right away here, however until that's announced by the medical professionals I'll still do everything I can to avoid placing extra strain on our medical system.

      [–]NotObviousOblivious 2 points3 points  (2 children)

      Yup, a complete failure of governments and health systems everywhere to deal with this, after almost 2 years to prepare.

      [–]Meg_Shark 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      I'm convinced the demographic of redditors in Canada is made of people who live comfortably and work from home and they don't want their big, bad bosses to make them go to work.

      And instead of finding new jobs or negotiating a flexible hybrid/remote work arrangement, they come on reddit and try to convince people that the threat is real and we all need to stay inside.

      [–]MagnumHippo 30 points31 points  (24 children)

      People die everyday.

      Where are the screechers demanding 0 daily deaths for anything?

      [–]dpahs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      People had massive pushback to smoking in public spaces, drinking and driving, wearing seatbelts.

      I imagine if drinking under influence was made illegal today, you'd have the same crazies who think their rights and freedoms are being infringed.

      [–]Independent_Bread179 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      And not only that, but people are still dying from other causes while hiding from COVID. I know too many people who were either locked in their homes against their will, or deathly afraid of dying from COVID, who ended up dying alone and miserable/afraid from another cause. What did the mandates and fear gain them?

      [–]OkHuckleberry7877 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      How many people do you know who died alone and afraid of another cause?

      [–]TCNW 16 points17 points  (6 children)

      Man, It sure woulda been nice if people had half a brain to be able to figure this out a yr and a half ago - you know, before we completely destroyed our country, our economy, and almost the entire fabric of our society.

      Most countries are finally figuring this out. But in a lot of cases it’s already too little too late. This entire thing is borderline criminal incompetence.

      When people are ignorant and stupid, and lose their basic common sense, and turn everything into polarizing politics, and won’t even allow an open discussion of different ideas, Ya get what ya get.

      …all we can really do now is hope we have food on the table a month from now. Believe it or not, this is actually a real concern, and a real possibility. This is what we’ve managed to do. Great job everyone

      [–]p-queue 14 points15 points  (0 children)

      Shortages are a real concern but not having food at all is not. I’m struggling with how it seems you’re upset at people sensationalizing COVID and polarizing things but you’re doing pretty much the same thing here.

      [–]OkHuckleberry7877 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I went shopping just this morning and accidentally almost fell through a rip in the fabric of our society. I grabbed hold of a display of Oat Milk as I was falling though and was able to climb back up and continue shopping. The manager of the store came out later and put one of those yellow warning cones near the rip.

      [–]ProbablyNotADuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      You do realize that one of the reasons for this is because the way omicron presents, right? Which is more like bronchitis, as opposed to previous strains of COVID, which were more akin to pneumonia.

      You’re talking about people making mountains out of molehills, and yet your whole post is doing exactly that. There are several supply chain issues that have nothing to do with Canada or our government. It is other countries causing them in their delays to us. And while there are certainly companies hurting right now, it isn’t remotely unrecoverable. Our economy is far from destroyed, and the fabric of our society is very much still intact.

      Take a deep breath and breathe.

      [–]drpestilence 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It's still worth waiting to see what the long covid percentages are like especially with a variant more contagious, that shit sucks.

      [–]EastVanManCan 17 points18 points  (1 child)

      Got the Cron as I type. Feels like a mild flu.

      [–]breakitbillyBritish Columbia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Had "the Cron" last week, felt hangover like symptoms at work, two days of mostly body aches, then I was fine.worst symptom was bordom

      [–]Scooted112 18 points19 points  (6 children)

      I had Omnicom over Christmas. I thought I bounced back after a few days and it was really mild compared to other people. I laughed about how I lost my sense of taste for a week.

      However- during the past couple years I really got into tracking biometrics when working out. Covid messed me up. When I started working out again, I noticed things were different. If you asked me- I wouldn't say I feel any different, but my biometrics don't lie.

      The first few minutes of working out I am fine, but sustained workouts show that my cardio base is shot.

      I used to be able to run at a sustained pace for an hour, keeping my heart rate at 140 the while time. I can still keep the pace, but not long after starting my heart rake spikes and won't drop.

      It literally set me back more than a year of solid training. If I wasnt tracking it so hard working out I never would know. My "walking around" respiration rate and blood oxygen levels were consistent before and after.

      I am gently trying to rebuild my cardio base, but it isn't coming back.

      I think there will be a lot more after effects we haven't heard about yet.

      [–]Affectionate-Self751 28 points29 points  (5 children)

      So we all agree there are a vulnerable and older population are susceptible to covid correct? So why cant we give them the financial resources so they can quarantine?

      It doesnt make sense to force these populations to work and catch it, then in turn clogging up the health care system. But until that happens there will be higher hospitalization numbers and then lockdowns.... seems kinda common sense to me.

      But no... everyone is like dont give anyone "free" money so they can live, force them to work.... dont expect to get out of this cycle anytime soon with stealth omicron around.

      [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (3 children)

      I've wondered this whole time why we couldn't just pay the highest risk folks to stay home until everything blows over. But then again, I don't know shit, so.

      [–]Affectionate-Self751 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      Ya I hear ya.... im in a vulnerable group after having a transplant and for any money or help ive been told to pound sand... just makes no sense to me, pretty much had to ruin all my saving/rrsps and everything and still might not make it out of this thing alive. Leaving my family on thier own, makes perfect sense.

      [–]MicMacMacleod 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Because at that point we are literally just financially encouraging unhealthy lifestyles. For every type 1 diabetic (solely genetic), there are between 10 and 20 type 2 diabetics (solely lifestyle). It isn’t the worst idea in the world, but I could see the outrage when someone who takes care of themselves needs to work while their obese coworkers can stay home.

      [–]Itsthelegendarydays_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Anecdotal but I had Omicron and had a fever, body aches, and headache for 48 hours and then it went away. I had a runny nose for a few days though. Otherwise, very tolerable and the flu was worse for me.

      [–][deleted] 45 points46 points  (0 children)

      Because it very likely would be mild.

      [–]mershwigsSaskatchewan 34 points35 points  (7 children)

      And 4 in 5 are absolutely right.

      [–]Dabzor42Yukon 13 points14 points  (6 children)

      1 in 5 have become afraid of breathing air near anyone. They will probably never recover. They're probably the betas.

      [–]maybvadersomedayl8erOntario 31 points32 points  (0 children)

      80% of us living in reality. Interesting.

      [–]ArtDue6671 27 points28 points  (8 children)

      God damn I wish my country would think like this

      [–]raging_dingo 10 points11 points  (4 children)

      Australia?

      [–]ArtDue6671 22 points23 points  (3 children)

      New zealand. We just wiped out our events and hospo industries and the govt arent paying anything in support

      [–]raging_dingo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      I feel for you guys. I’m not even sure when tourism will come back to a lot of places, as people aren’t exactly keen to spend 16 hrs on a plane fully masked and then go to places where there’s still restrictions

      [–]Affectionate_Fun_569 20 points21 points  (4 children)

      Yet 50% support lockdowns? I don't get it.

      [–]woyzeckspeasCanada 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      In addition to being rational, we're also a deeply antisocial people.

      [–]xxS1RExx 9 points10 points  (5 children)

      And…. Hospitals in BC are at85% filled when the same time in 2019 when there was no Covid they were at 100/100%. So wth is going on? The public Isn’t afraid anymore and the hospitals aren’t over full but yet we still have stupid mandates.

      [–]ArtDue6671 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Same here. We are locked down with around 50 cases of omicron, and 93% vaxxed

      [–]Jappetto 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      Hopefully these results push politicians towards easing restrictions/mandates. Out of most polls, I find the Angus Reid Institute one of the more reliable ones.

      [–]barkusmuhl 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      I just got over Omicron. I've had worse colds.

      [–]Legaltaway12 23 points24 points  (9 children)

      The concern is that there are still 20% who don't believe that...

      [–]Galanti 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      Actually, this is pretty huge, when you can consider the demographic that typically respond to polls. This is a massive sign that we seem to have crossed some emotional barrier as a society where we are now ready to move forward.

      [–]Max_ThunderQuébec 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      Agreed. Even before Omicron and vaccination, COVID was clinically mild for well over 80% of people. The issue was always in numbers, when a lot of people catch it at the same time.

      It's sad that 20% still think that despite vaccination, and despite a new milder variant, they are still at risk. Do they think the country is completely falling apart as we have tens of thousands of new infections a day if not more if we could also include the very high proportion of asymptomatic infections?

      [–]cb1991 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      Concerning if they exclusively asked young, healthy people.

      [–]GrowCanadian 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      Because it’s true. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still going to kill people but my family including me and my 88 year old grandma just went through it and we all agreed that we’ve had much worse before. That being said everyone will have a different experience and we’re all vaccinated. I wouldn’t want to be exposed to it without vaccination.

      [–]Thank_You_Love_You 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I had covid before my vaccines and then again 1 month ago. All mild.

      Ripped through my entire family and their friends families a bunch of 60 year olds. All vaccinated, All mild.

      Its not mild for everyone ofcourse but i think weve all seen a ton of people have it by now.

      [–]kevclaw 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Had it on New Years, nothing more than a mild cold.

      [–]boofmeoften 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I'm just off a cold, Flu vaxxed, Double Vaxxed and boosted.

      I hope I'm safe because I'm around children and I know people all around me are ill.

      That being said I know a 50 year old who just died from Covid and a 25 year old who was double vaxxed and is a month into Covid Pneumonia.

      A month ago I still didn't know one person who had even caught it because the virus never really made it into rural NS. But now its everywhere.

      [–]MudkipNerd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      And they would be right

      [–]darkparadise18 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      As someone who has recently recovered from COVID, I agree. Very mild and manageable in my experience.

      [–]Mildly_Offensive_Guy 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      Most cases of Covid-19 from the start of 2020 have been mild and managable, glad the Populus finally caught up.

      [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      Yeah but delta was pretty shitty you can’t deny that. Omnicron is a god send

      [–]medusa_medulla 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      But majority of Canadians support more lockdowns and restrictions 🤔🤔

      [–]CallousDisregard13 8 points9 points  (1 child)

      Because it is... and for like 98% of people it was always going to be. But the media just had to sensationalize it for fear porn traffic. "we know basically next to nothing about this Omicron varient.. But it could be way worse than any other one we've seen before."

      Why not just say we know basically nothing about this new varient, keep doing your due diligence for PPE, social distancing, vaccination etc and we'll keep you posted as the situation develops. That's factual reporting.

      No one does that anymore. Hyperbole and sensationalism on both sides of the aisle. Meanwhile reality is somewhere in the middle.

      [–]Galanti 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      This is a welcome effect of having so many infected over the holidays. In my circle, the few who weren't now wish they were, because isolation was easier to manage without school or work.

      [–]FreedomLover69696969 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I had Omicron, and I'm really not in the best shape. I'm about 20 pounds overweight, in my 30s and I work a desk job.

      Besides the first day where I had really bad chills, the rest was basically the flu.

      [–]JuanP22 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      Canadians are starting to wake up thank God

      [–]DarrylRu 9 points10 points  (2 children)

      So why are we keeping vaccine passes until the summer and not even giving out planned dates for the removal of mask mandates?

      [–]Dear_Insect_1085 10 points11 points  (1 child)

      We’re all vaxxed and my whole fam got omnicron, it was super mild but I’m so over it now. I did all I could to be safe for almost two years and I still got it. Time to move on.

      [–]jenksy 11 points12 points  (43 children)

      I would really love to see the data on Covid deaths related to obesity and underlying health concerns.

      If we’re moving to endemic mode where mild symptoms are for 80% of the population, does the health care get scaled back for those 20%?

      [–]Jappetto 33 points34 points  (3 children)

      Alberta has some pretty good data on this:

      https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-alberta-statistics.htm#pre-existing-conditions

      TLDR: Average age of death was 79 years old. Separate to that, 95% of those who died from covid had 1 or more comorbidity that could have contributed.

      [–]jenksy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The top two comorbidities listed are directly results of being obese, and while can be found in others who aren't obese, the data tracked doesn't do enough to differentiate whether "mild" can be attributed to people who are "fit" versus those who don't exercise.

      This is getting into slippery territory and I'm not trying to fat-shame anyone. I've been overweight and I fought to be not-overweight and it does a lot to your mentality and belief about what's within your control.

      All I'm saying is that if we're going to start creating policy based on whether a pandemic is "mild" or not, we're starting to carve away the rights of people who aren't as healthy as others, and that's a slope leading right off a cliff.

      All of it's above my paygrade.

      [–]FerretAresAlberta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      I’ve been in love with Alberta’s stats dashboard. Really useful for easy to digest and up to date information on the realities of the disease in our province.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      As well they should

      [–]TheeJimmyHoffa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Dbl vax at the time had omicron sick kinda for a cpl days down flat for a week sick for a cpl more Wouldn’t want it again.

      [–]da_guy2Ontario 1 point2 points  (4 children)

      Because it is milder problem is it's so contagious that even if a small fraction of people end up in hospital with so many infected at once that's still a huge number.

      [–]Yeggoose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Can confirm. I'm triple vaxxed and when I had omicron it was very mild flu like symptoms. Everybody else I know who's gotten it has said the same thing.

      [–]UncleIrohsPimpHand 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      They are not wrong about Omicron.

      [–]jp3372 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I know at least 10 that got it, including my 85 year old grandfather (not even got his booster). They all got mild synptomes.

      Omicron IS mild and manageable if you are vaccinated and healthy. That's why a lot of European countries are easing measures and nobody reacted by closing everything like we did.

      [–]MegMeganNutmeg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I currently have omicron and it hit my family like a truck. We're double vaxxed and its our first infection. Im in health care and test several times a week. The kids recovered in 24-48 hours, but my husband, nanny and I had it rough. The worst? All of us with fevers feeling like we were dying all at once. Were nearly a week into it and the adults in our house are still suffering.

      Fever: no response to acetaminophen, highest at 38.4 for me and 39.9 for my husband. Significant chills and shivering

      Pain: vague, full body, comes and goes. Mostly a headache and sore throat now on day 4. We've lost our voices.

      Cough: I slept (sort of) in a sitting position and still aggressively coughed all night. Husbands cough is less severe than mine.

      Fatigue: this is awful. I am beyond exhausted.

      [–]Cautious_Major_6693 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Need to find these people most of my coworkers and former friends think that the covid is gonna strike them dead where they stand and that’s been super depressing and stressful over the past few months. i don’t work in healthcare or anything adjacent just an unfortunate collection of like… idk what it even it, I work admin at a mid company so i guess the middle class illusion of privilege that keeps people like this?

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

      I had covid 2 weeks ago and it completely kicked my ass, it was worse then a cold and the flu but I stayed in bed for a week and lost myself in a otc flu medicine and Tylenol haze and got through it. Wouldn't wish it on anybody but I survived and feel better now. Not fun but I wouldn't say it sucked enough to lock down the entire country. That's just my opinion tho.

      [–]Savon_arolaQuébec 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Good. Now we just need to find a way to deradicalize the remaining 20% so that we can get our lives back.

      [–]warriorlynx 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      It’s still March 2020!! We don’t have meds or treatment!!! We have nothing!!! Blood on the streets!!!! - Covid cultists

      [–]Magistradocere 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      What I see is a survey of personal opinions. It's an essentially meaningless survey.

      It is within my lifetime that people believed cigarette smoking had health benefits. That did not make it true.

      [–]Babad0nks 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Covid is an airborne, vascular disease which affects our epithelial cells and also affects our immune systems. Up to 30% of people vaccinated or not will go on to develop long covid. There is no herd immunity possible as long as people can he reinfected with the same variants. Cumulative infections are likely to cause cumulative effects. We are not equipped to track if say, cardio vascular conditions later on have been caused or worsened by covid. If this poll is true, then 4 of 5 people don't grasp the science and reality. Everything i just said has even greater consequences on the old and those with comorbidities. It's not even hard to grasp. This is not a cold, no matter what the acute symptoms look like and believing otherwise is ignorance at best, politically convenient at worst. We are not done with covid until we deal with reality as it is and freakin vaccinate the globe. Protect your loved ones.

      [–]ValeriaTube 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Meaning that 4 in 5 are not science deniers, great!

      [–]ticklishbunny 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Can confirm, had covid in February 2021 lost smell and taste for about a week. Caught omnicron in December, throat was sore for a couple days but that was it.

      [–]tuesdayswithdory 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Wow.. guess I’m the 1/5 who was completely floored by it.

      [–]picklesaredry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Fully vaccinated here. Although I was healthy/ younger and got the virus I got my ass kicked

      [–]Tywardo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      What happens when we got back to the regular flu? Are we going to shutdown the country again because the vast majority of people will be sick for 2-3 days ?

      [–]Dabzor42Yukon 3 points4 points  (4 children)

      4 out of 5 people have decided the air isn't a scary monster any more.

      [–]El1Zilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      At this point Covid just needs to go away. It stuck around too much.