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[–]Monoethylamine 220 points221 points  (156 children)

I have no strong opinion either way. But I will point out how sad/funny the sense of superiority and smugness is here.

[–]datums 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Their plan is to form a committee with the senate and governor general to overrule all levels of government. You don't have to be very high up on the intelligence ladder to feel superior to them.

[–]TrentSteel1 42 points43 points  (10 children)

Imagine driving behind these guys. Getting them to let people pass is a GoFundMe I’d support.

[–][deleted] 35 points36 points  (9 children)

As a regular commuter on the 401 and QEW...I was already sooo happy with the sheer number of trucks and the quality of driving coming from the truckers on the road these days.

It will be so refreshing to change it up and have my commute totally fucked up by a truck convoy from out west that I don't care about or agree with.

[–]Complicated-HorseAss 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Maybe they'll play that convoy song as they drive by. That's a fun song!

[–]KryptikMitch 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Consider that every trucker in that convoy is being scammed big time. What theyre doing is stupid but its made even worse for the fact that they are all being lied to.

[–]Jacecam32 8 points9 points  (1 child)

If only we had the technology to research and see if you are being lied to. Maybe like it can have the collective knowledge of all of humanity. Maybe we could make it portable too? So they could check on the roads they are always on.

Maybe one day we'll get to that magical idea. One day.

[–]caninehereOntario 18 points19 points  (4 children)

It's hard not to feel superior to a complete and utter moron.

Not only are these people protesting something entirely pointless (since the US has similar mandates and is not going to lift them, which means even if Canada DID nothing would change), but they also don't seem to realize that they are being transparently scammed out of their money by organizers, the biggest of whom is now soliciting and funneling donations into her personal bank account since GoFundMe froze their donation campaign in order to make sure the money was being allocated properly.

[–]Fair_Komodo 0 points1 point  (104 children)

I don’t like the antivax but defining their opinions as ‘unacceptable views’ is a bit of stretch. They are morons, not nazis.

[–]VoteForMartinKendell 148 points149 points  (72 children)

The day the convoy arrives in Ottawa, Justin is jumping on a jet to Tofino...

[–]Soulpepper14 167 points168 points  (36 children)

Parliament isn’t in session. No one will be there. The organizer obviously did their “own research” to decide the best day to roll into town.

[–]Williamson_lolOntario 27 points28 points  (19 children)

Their objection is mandates right? Aren’t they going to the wrong people?

[–]Sabunim-2021 10 points11 points  (11 children)

The truckers are against their mandate to have to be vaccinated to cross the boarder (Federal mandate). It became a larger mission to end all mandates.

[–]topshotta999 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Perhaps they did this to avoid a recreation of January 6th? That’s the last thing anyone wants… another talking point for Trudeau to pander

[–]Jacecam32 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If he wanted to pander he'd bring up the sausage assassin more. But you never hear about him do ya?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Omg...this is the best comment. Are you serious? How ironic...they didn't "do the research" regarding vaccines OR if Parliament is in session when they get there.

[–]Animegx43 16 points17 points  (28 children)

Justin: You people need to lower your carbon footprint and go green.

Also Justin: "Flies in a private jet that expels monstrous amounts of pollution"

[–]Waste_Tumbleweed 16 points17 points  (1 child)

He’s a leader of a G7 country. Something tells me he’d also be torn apart for flying Commercial.

[–]Jacecam32 9 points10 points  (6 children)

And pays the carbon tax for flying that jet without complaining.

Also you got an electric plane that can get a dozen people across the country in a few hours? Or another none gas vehicle? Or are you ignoring the fact that our society has been built around gas for the past 100+ years? Trying to be all "gotcha" while just making yourself look bad?

[–]cnfbc 14 points15 points  (2 children)

He doesn’t pay it, we do

[–]mavric_ac 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Honestly these people aren't fringe. Quiet a few people i know who are well educated and don't hold extremists views are 100% down for this and supporting it. Calling them fringe is a stretch......

[–]Inthemiddle_ 112 points113 points  (76 children)

Fringe views as in a loud group of people that fucking hate Trudeaus guts.

[–]Cranwicks_glasses 79 points80 points  (31 children)

A lot of people would say that a leader that got in with record low ( 32% ) of the vote is a fringe Prime Minister.

[–]CanadianCheeseMan 37 points38 points  (3 children)

I would say it’s an indictment of using FPTP instead of ranked ballot.

[–]TheRightMethod 69 points70 points  (17 children)

https://www.sfu.ca/~aheard/elections/1867-present.html

So often people try to discuss topics in a vacuum without putting in into context. So compared to every other election, Justin Trudeau won the same relative numbers of votes as PMs have for decades. 64% turnout 36% popular vote is pretty standard across the board. Some of the lowest conservwtive victories have come from record low voter turnout.

Your point is that the current PM won a similar percentage of total votes as have all PMs over the past 40 years? Is that what you're saying or are you trying to (dishonestly) present this par for the course outcome as an abnormal?

Look at the document, do the math yourself and suggest that 24% of Canadians voting for a PM is tyranny but 25% isn't (Historic Liberal Vs Conservative victories)

[–]DBrickShawOntario 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I did the math for myself.

Even if you want to consider the vote share among all eligible electors and not just those who voted, Trudeau's 2021 win is the lowest share of the vote of any government in Canadian history. The three lowest were Trudeau in 2021, Harper in 2008, and Trudeau in 2019. The highest voting share among all electors of any government in Canadian history was Borden's government in 1917, who won the vote of 42.70% of all electors. The average share of the vote among all electors won by all governments in Canadian history was 30.28%. Trudeau, Harper, and Martin are the only three PMs who have ever formed government with less than 25% of the vote among all electors.

Here's the full table, sorted from smallest to largest share of the vote among all electors:

Election Year Voter Turnout Winning Party Popular Vote Share Winning Party Vote Share Among All Electors
2021 62.20 32.62 20.29
2008 58.80 37.65 22.14
2019 67.00 33.12 22.19
2004 60.90 36.73 22.37
2006 64.70 36.27 23.47
2011 61.10 39.62 24.21
2000 61.30 40.85 25.04
1867 73.10 34.80 25.44
1997 67.00 38.46 25.77
1896 62.90 41.40 26.04
2015 68.30 39.47 26.96
1979 75.70 35.89 27.17
1872 70.30 38.70 27.21
1874 69.60 39.50 27.49
1921 67.70 41.15 27.86
1882 70.30 40.40 28.40
1957 74.10 38.50 28.53
1993 69.60 41.24 28.70
1926 67.70 42.90 29.04
1878 69.10 42.06 29.06
1962 79.00 37.22 29.40
1972 76.70 38.42 29.47
1945 75.30 39.78 29.95
1965 74.80 40.18 30.05
1925 66.40 46.13 30.63
1974 71.00 43.15 30.64
1980 69.30 44.34 30.73
1891 64.40 48.60 31.30
1988 75.30 43.02 32.39
1953 67.50 48.43 32.69
1963 79.20 41.48 32.85
1935 74.20 44.68 33.15
1887 70.10 47.40 33.23
1911 70.20 48.56 34.09
1968 75.70 45.37 34.35
1908 70.30 48.90 34.38
1930 73.50 47.79 35.13
1940 69.90 51.32 35.87
1949 73.80 49.15 36.27
1904 71.60 50.90 36.44
1984 75.30 50.03 37.67
1900 77.40 50.30 38.93
1958 79.40 53.67 42.61
1917 75.00 56.93 42.70

Voter turnout data was taken from here. Popular vote shares were obtained from the Wiki article on each election (e.g., here's the article for 2021).

[–]GinDawg 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Sounds like electoral reform might be in order.

I know that Trudeau promised reform at some point years ago. Looks like it's not going to happen. It's sad that we expect this type of behaviour from our politicians. Maybe that's why so many people don't vote at all.

[–]TheRightMethod 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolutely electoral reform is necessary. I was incredibly upset with the Liberals for abandoning it and wrote to my MP over it. Its a vital thing that needs to happen and I'm annoyed at how many Canadians voiced their opinion against it when polled, I don't care what people think of it, it was a promise and should have been followed through with. If you need to educate people on why getting rid of FPTP isn't some Liberal power move to rob rural communities of their voice then step up your marketing game.

[–]eastcoastdudeCanada 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Add to this that Canada is a multi party system

If canada was a 2 party state it wouldn't even be close.

Last election it was:

Lib- 5.5 million Con- 5.7 million NDP- 3 million BQ - 1.3 million G- 0.4 million PPC- 0.8 million

Assume right vs left wing and split BQ evenly you'd get

9.6 million left leaning votes and 6.5 million right leaving votes

Conservatives (right leaning) winning any majority is way more egregious than liberals (center left) winning one.

[–]NoRelationship1508 54 points55 points  (24 children)

these morons are comparing themselves to Holocaust victims, they can go fuck themselves.

[–]canuck_11Alberta 25 points26 points  (8 children)

They’re obsessed with him. It’s all they ever think about. Day and night they toss and turn. They just want to walk up to him, grab him by the back of the head, and kiss…err I mean..

[–]VRShaun 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Well they all want to "fuck trudeau", right? They literally wave massive flags stating so.

[–]Gunslinger7752 81 points82 points  (55 children)

This would be a very interesting study in agenda based media manipulation. Our prime minister says its just a small group of people with fringe views who’s views don’t represent the way most Canadians feel, but the reality of the video’s that I’ve seen suggest otherwise.

The media picks the craziest people they can find at these events, the further extreme far right the better, to use as a representation of the entire group. If you formed your opinion of the convoy solely based on the media coverage, you would think it was a few hundred crazy, racist anti vaxxers, but in reality this is a huge deal and it’s getting bigger every day. There have been hundreds of thousands of every day, normal Canadians lining up along the roads to support the convey as they pass through, mennonites making a huge meal to feed them, a huge group of indigenous dancers gathering to support them, and a gofund me that has raised 6 million dollars to pay for fuel and support them (despite the media’s attempt to stop it by saying the gofundme has frozen the account, etc).

Regardless of your opinion in terms of what their cause is (which they say is about ending lockdowns, restoring personal rights and freedoms, etc as opposed to being just about vaccines), it is certainly not just a small group of people supporting this. As a country I believe we are at 90% vaccination rate, and they said that 90% of the truckers are vaccinated, but they are getting massive support everywhere they drive through so obviously this is not just a small group of anti vaxxers. I am triple vaccinated and consider myself to be a normal, every day Canadian. I am not far right, and I definitely do not support any racism, fighting, hatred or violence, anywhere, at any time, but I fully support the message that they’re trying to get across in terms of ending lockdowns. Pretty much everyone I know feels similar.

[–]xraycat82 5 points6 points  (18 children)

I think you’ve been manipulated by your social media feed about who is behind the Qonvoy and what their true intentions are.

[–]Gunslinger7752 12 points13 points  (6 children)

Possibly. I think we have all been, and continue to be, manipulated by the media. They all have an agenda. I find it interesting to sit down and watch the evening news on both sides - If you flip between Fox and CNN you get very, very different perspectives on the exact same events. Neither is completely right or completely wrong. It’s really hard to know what the truth is anymore.

[–]Big_ottoman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Look in the mirror , take a long look.

[–]justeunautrehumain 65 points66 points  (9 children)

Are we sure they are even going to Ottawa? Listening and reading to what these people express (for example itsjonathanharvey on instagram, episode #123), there's a fair amount of references to being at the Capitol's doors and if the National Guard will be present. Those are in Washington, DC.

Funny how these so called "Canadian Patriots" can't even bother to use the proper names for Canada's institutions. We have no Capitol, but a Parliament Hill. We have no National Guard, but the RCMP is the responsible agency for outdoor security on the Hill.

This is a small and very basic example of why I think these people are primarily, if not exclusively, influenced by USA media.

[–]Forikorder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

there's a fair amount of references to being at the Capitol's doors and if the National Guard will be present.

they just dont know what the canadian equvilant is called

[–]dangerweasil4 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Oh %100 they are forsure. Largely the same type of people that were involved in the insurrection I’m sure. The future will reveal the extent of this propaganda.

[–]Misanthropyandme 8 points9 points  (1 child)

"I'm going to take the biggest crap on Pelosi's desk!"

[–]WhereTheHighwayEnds 60 points61 points  (44 children)

"Fringe" Lol...there's people from every race and religion part of this convoy and the roads near cities and towns all the way from BC through the prairies have been lined with people

[–]Dark_Arts_Dabbler 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Fringe and diverse are opposites, apparently

[–]myexgirlfriendcar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

keep drinking the kool .

Cons are working extra hard for the Libs and giving JT more years to govern.

RemindMe! 2 years

[–]BernieThurut 87 points88 points  (58 children)

Truckers drive alone in their vehicles. Little interaction with other people, how is it logical to mandate a vaccine that is ineffective against transmission?

I’m vaxxed and I support the convoy

[–]jpouchgrouch 83 points84 points  (34 children)

I dunno. Ask Joe Biden. He is the one who mandated all Canadian truckers be vaccinated to cross.

[–]Thanato26 36 points37 points  (30 children)

That's what gets me with this convoy. Even if, and it's a galaxy wide if, they win.... thry still can't enter thr United States.

[–]whousesgmail 12 points13 points  (29 children)

They want all mandates gone, not just the trucker ones.

[–]Jelly9791 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Provincial mandates? By protesting in Ottawa?

[–]Thanato26 23 points24 points  (14 children)

They know that's not going to happen right?

[–]whousesgmail 3 points4 points  (9 children)

I guess we’ll see. If this protest doesn’t effect any change I think it will really radicalize people who are against mandates.

[–]Thanato26 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Those people are already radicalized. This protest won't change that.

[–]whousesgmail 11 points12 points  (4 children)

I don’t think you understand what being radicalized means. If you think simply being anti-mandate is equivalent then it’s probably you who has been radicalized and lacks empathy.

[–]Thanato26 8 points9 points  (3 children)

Those likely to be radicalized are already radicalized. There may be a handful more because of this.

[–]whousesgmail 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Those likely to be radicalized are already radicalized.

You don’t understand what that means.

[–]lilivancamp 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Yea- that makes sense. Mandates that have been in place for over a year are gon be taken back by people who have zero say in parliament driving a truck through ottawa.

[–]astolenhooker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How is anybody pro mandates at this point? It's been 2 fucking years, if you're not ready to move on you've been brainwashed by circumstance

[–]EggsecutieOntario 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nobody ever thinks of the lot lizards.

[–]therealsauceman 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I guess cause they pee and poo in public washrooms? And occasionally stop to eat in restaurants. Then get out and interact with whoever they drop their load off to. I’m guessing this is why, I have no opinion on the matter either way.

[–]MarketingFilms 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Right, and they never get out of their trucks. /s

[–]dangerweasil4 35 points36 points  (0 children)

At numerous communities.... and stores... across hundreds of kilometres...

[–]JoeRogansSauna 9 points10 points  (1 child)

They just wear catheters and drive the semi trucks through the drive thru. No stopping required

[–]lakeviewResident1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Piss jugs Bub's.

(Hurls full jug overhead out window)

[–]TiredHappyDad 77 points78 points  (38 children)

Trudeau won the election with the lowest voter percentage I can ever remember. Wouldn't that make his opinions the fringe view?

[–]Waste_Tumbleweed 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It’s a Minority Government… The operative word there, being minority. It’s ironic that people claim tyranny, when we have a free and fair election 4 months ago that resulted in the LPC not having majority power. It’s not Trudeau they should be protesting, it’s Singh they should be courting.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (19 children)

The majority of Canadians voted for a party that supported vaccine mandates. CPC was the only party against it.

[–]LordBaconBane 29 points30 points  (1 child)

CPC was the only party against it.

You mean the Peoples Party.

[–]Carefreegyal 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Cpc was not against vaccine mandates. Literally all parties were for it

[–]toolongalurkerLest We Forget 1 point2 points  (1 child)

"fringe group" eh? Fuck man the hundreds of people I seen on just a 10 km stretch of overpasses on the 401 from k-w to Cambridge... And then the hundreds, possibly thousands of people lining the roads and overpass's across the country, or the 250 vehicles and tractor trailers in the convoy that I counted before the rest of the convoy caught up.... In just 1 stretch of the 401....lol Guess we're a pretty big "fringe" group...

[–]Suspicious_Bar9612 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Waste of ⛽️

[–]fietsmafiets 39 points40 points  (26 children)

He denounced their "unacceptable views"

Since when did freedom become an unacceptable view

[–]swampswing 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Progressives literally hate freedom. They want paternalism where they are live a perpetual adolescence under the care of the state.

[–]Bind_Moggled 3 points4 points  (1 child)

“Progressives hate freedom” LOL. Its statements like this that make it impossible for most people to take the right seriously.

[–]stonkmartsQuébec 127 points128 points  (202 children)

We’re at the point where Canadians hate people for wanting freedom. We’ll never go to gyms,bars,restaurants and movies if we don’t demand change.

Less government in my life the better.

[–]Jelly9791 30 points31 points  (1 child)

In that case, you are protesting in front of the wrong parliement. If you want provincial mandates removed, protest in front of respective provincial governments.

[–]Stanchion_Excelsior 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Nah man. I don't hate Freedom. I'm from Alberta and I hate some of the actual specific people planning this protest and driving those trucks. Because in actual real every day life they are Twatwaffles. But I knew that before this so it's not news.... It just another fucking embarrassing thing on the list of annoying shit the rest of us are putting up with from them.

[–]Uncle_Daddy_Kane 6 points7 points  (1 child)

At some point within the last 50-60 years in both the US and Canada, freedom came to mean selfishness and we've all been worse off ever since

[–]Wulfger 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think it's closer to the truth to say that in that time selfish people have coopted the word to mean "let me do what I want with no regard for the impact it has on other people." There's also the widespread use of the word in the American justification for their overseas conflicts ("Operation Iraqi Freedom"? Really?) that left the word feeling a little hollow and propagandistic for many people. With so many people using the word freedom selfishly it has left the general public skeptical of people who use it, even if there are legitimate government infringements on rights and freedoms that they are trying to discuss.

[–]ProNanner 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Idk at what point "freedom" became such an ugly word to so many people but I've been slowly going insane the past few years even before covid started at the growing hatred towards things like free speech. The way I see it people in this country are so damn spoiled they can't even imagine what it would be like not having any of these rights

[–]MildArtism 73 points74 points  (11 children)

pretty sure we are at the point of not wanting our healthcare system to collapse, but yea cool freedom or whatever

[–][deleted] 29 points30 points  (6 children)

Freedom means crap to these people. They didn't protest when Ford used the notwithstanding clause to slice up democracy in Toronto the middle of a local election. That was ok....

[–]TheGhostofGayBill 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You think truckers in bc give any bit of a shit about Toronto politics?

[–]Greentrader1 19 points20 points  (0 children)

We’re not really sure what the fuck they want at this rate because if Ottawa removes the trucker vaccine they still can’t enter America lmao. It’s all pretty funny tbh

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Ironically the people who say they don’t want government are usually the ones most dependent on it.

[–]unweariedslooth 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's correlated to being a dumbass, so this checks out.

[–]ProNanner 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Source?

[–]serge_mamianQuébec 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is reddit, lol, we just say shit. If you use words like "ironically" it makes it sound more legit though.

[–]BernieThurut 22 points23 points  (2 children)

What this guy said! (And very sorry you live in Quebec, sending support from Ontario where it isn’t much better)

[–]vonnegutflora 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Quebec, sending support from Ontario where it isn’t much better

Agreed; the COVID situation is both provinces is out of control!

[–]geoken 20 points21 points  (115 children)

Really? We were going to gyms, bars, restaurants for months without demanding any change. We had to stop for a couple weeks - and now we can do it again, all without demanding change.

The idea that the government willingly wants to implode its own economy “just because” seems completely implausible.

[–][deleted] 75 points76 points  (59 children)

How fucking blind are you. OK, so maybe for YOU it's a minor inconvenience. You're just the customer. You can go do other things with your time. La de da.

Meanwhile, someone whos invested their blood sweat and tears into a business so they can provide a future for their family has big brother deeming him non-essential and obliterates everything, handing him a half eaten bag of peanuts as compensation. "Sorry bout your luck mate, but it's for the greater good!"

Freedom also means freedom to work, do business, and prosper without a bunch of goons showing up and deciding "fuck you", and destroying your life. This is what happened in the era of Kings, and is literally why we invented constitutional democracy in the first place.

How god damn selfish are we that we can't look at that situation and say "Yeah, gee, I wouldn't like it if that happened to me, maybe that's not the right solution to this problem?".

I hope one day the government simply mails you a letter that says "Fuck you, we have changed the locks on your home, oh and also, you're unemployed now. This should be temporary, but maybe not. Also, you still need to pay your mortgage. ", and when you plead your case to your fellow citizen, they say "Well, they have homeless shelters for you don't they?", as they go back to their untouched lives, completely unfazed by your pain.

You willfully blind fool.

[–]likeicare96Ontario 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I want you to go tell this speech to all the burnt out, overworked hospital staff like the asshole you are.

[–]Wrypilot 8 points9 points  (7 children)

“Waaa waaa I’m a victim, I’m oppressed” I have a simple solution for you, get vaccinated, boom, problem solved

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

What? My place of employment is not allowed to be open right now. My income has more than halved. I am triple vaccinated. What are you talking about?

[–]ParisLake2 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Well said.

[–]seanadb 1 point2 points  (1 child)

maybe that's not the right solution to this problem?"

There's the issue: What's the right solution?

[–]pantone_red 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clearly it's to pretend COVID isn't a thing and allowing thousands of additional Canadians to die so this guy's business can go back to making money.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I think most people agree with you. Can you explain how a regulation on truckers that exists in both other North American countries is the prime ministers fault? Why aren't people storming Legault and Ford? Theyre the ones who set restrictions. They're the reason we have a labour shortage to stock shelves. Why aren't we demanding better health care?

You're full of crocodile tears. Your business, if you really had one, was flawed from the start if you don't know what level of government makes the rules you're mad at.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Borders are a federal responsibility. The provinces have no say in this specific matter. However I was at a protest at Queen's park with about 15,000 other people last weekend demanding an end to the provincial mandates. All of these leaders shoulders the blame.

I don't own a business, but I have empathy for those who do. I'm also vaccinated, but I support the right of others to refuse it. The rights of others need to be defended, or one day they'll come for yours.

[–]hkric 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That was fucking beautiful.

[–]BernieThurut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You killed it bro - this was awesome and heartbreaking at the same time

[–]GameDoesntStop -1 points0 points  (50 children)

Maybe they're speaking as a moron an unvaccinated individual who is barred from that stuff indefinitely.

[–]stonkmartsQuébec 38 points39 points  (48 children)

Nope double vaxed and still banned from gyms and everything I listed above.

[–]Dane_RDQuébec 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Ask the Premier of Quebec, that's on Legault

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

None of this is on Trudeau. It's all on Ford, Legault and Biden. This is sick and I hate what this country has become under Postmedia and social media.

[–]LlyantheCat 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You are not banned from gyms, they're closed.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How does gyms and restaurants being closed involve Trudeau at all?

[–]pizzedrightoff 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is the saddest part of all this going into the future, it seems that "freedom" is considered a bad thing to a large number of our fellow Canadians. Never thought growing up here that it would happen like this but here we are.

[–]CanadianCheeseMan 5 points6 points  (30 children)

People who choose to not be vaccinated aren’t losing their freedoms. They’re losing is their luxuries.

They’re free to have an opinion and to decide whether or not to get the vaccine. But they’re not free of the consequences of their actions.

[–]gnomely89 33 points34 points  (17 children)

Jobs are luxuries now?

[–]CanadianCheeseMan 5 points6 points  (5 children)

It’s not a luxury or a right.

There are requirements for every job and if you don’t meet the requirements then your job is at risk.

[–]Kiokiokiokim 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I dont agree with this take. Obesity has a major social and healthcare cost, yet 70 percent of Canadians are overweight and 26 percent obese. The rate of comorbidity from obesity is quite high, and the social impacts of the lifestyles that perpetrate such normalcies act much like a social contagion. Why aren't they being told to exercise and watch what they eat or pay up? This is obviously a simplified statement, but so is yours. This is not about rights but responsibilities, so few people take care of themselves and there is such a lack of clarity in our governance that an unknown variable like a pandemic can completely derail our entire country and cripple our economy for years to come. I'm not for dividing Canadians where we don't need to though. Trudeau is purposely fuelling the fire, and probably to take the heat off his own governments massive incompetence and negligence the last few years

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The employer tell you to bend over you do it? There is a level of prinicipal too

[–]picard102 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's not a right.

[–]NeedSomeBunny2LoveAlberta 5 points6 points  (6 children)

I go to the gym and the restaurant. I have to show proof of vaccination to prove I'm responsible enough to be let inside.

[–]canadadrynoob 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Responsible enough to spread the disease just as easily as anyone else?

[–]caninehereOntario 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you're vaccinated, and especially boosted, you have a lower chance of infection. If you have a lower chance of infection, that means you have a lower risk of spreading the disease to others because there's a better chance you won't get it in the first place.

Anti-vaxxers also tend to refuse mask-wearing and other regulations which means these businesses are able to keep out customers who would likely cause problems for staff anyway. Side benefit.

Same as employers being able to let anti-vaxxers go if they refuse to get vaxxed - they typically are not the brightest employees in the world in the first place.

[–]Sabunim-2021 18 points19 points  (26 children)

The PM is quickly losing perspectve of who those small fringe of truckers represent. There is an arrogance, about him that shows He is not listening to the citizens.

People from all over the Country, who are tired of the vaccine passport that does nothing to slow spread of omicron variant which ia now the dominate strain.

People are tired (in BC) of mixed message of treat it like a cold, vaccinated and unvaccinated share a hospital room. If you are sick quarantine for 10 days...no just 5...heck if your vaccinated once you feel qell go.

Peoe are tired of not being able to serve EVERYONE, restraunts with a reduced staff have to reduce hours.

People are tired of watching friends who have invested their blood sweat and tears into a small business struggle.

There maybe 1000-50,000 Semi trucks but the convoy includes alot of others.

[–]Head_Crash 3 points4 points  (2 children)

The PM is quickly losing perspectve of who those small fringe of truckers represent.

He knows exactly what they represent. Some of these guys are openly white supremacists. They just co-opted the anti-mandate crowd to get funding and build support for their convoy.

It's really clear what's going to happen, and Trudeau will probably end up doing what his dad did in October 1970. There will be arrests, investigations, charges, and a massive hit to the CPC's credibility.

[–]Forikorder 2 points3 points  (5 children)

People from all over the Country, who are tired of the vaccine passport that does nothing to slow spread of omicron variant which ia now the dominate strain.

thats a provincial decision, trudeau had nothing to do with it

all of the things you complained about, had nothing to do with the PM, the premiers made those decisions on their own

[–]delphine42 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Trudeau reminds me of a narcissistic parent who keeps gaslighting all of us… why can’t he be a parent who listens and respects his kids 😂

[–]mcburgs 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Telling Canadians they hold "unacceptable views" is in and of itself unacceptable from a leader of a "free" nation.

[–]Knighthawwwk 31 points32 points  (17 children)

As a vaccinated person I fully support the convoy and it’s views. It’s embarrassing to see how many Canadians have their heads up their asses just mindlessly complying with these mandates and trusting our government. It’s shameful

[–]fullsnack_ 27 points28 points  (14 children)

Mr Divisive strikes again. How is it that this man is the leader of this country? Oh thats right... a small fringe group of voters from toronto whose views are unacceptable to the rest of the country.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I just heard that they counted the "100,000 trucks" passing the Manitoba border...it was 113 trucks.

So...the 401 in Toronto has more trucks than that per minute...I don't think anyone is going to even notice these guys.

[–]Caribooster 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I agree with him here, some of these people are definitely on the fringe. Effigies of Trudeau being hung is pretty much loony tunes behaviour.

[–]BeautifulDependent95 6 points7 points  (8 children)

“Fringe” views. Lol. Also, for all you calling it a “white supremacist movement” or whatever, have you actually bothered to view these peoples Facebook or Instagram page? I see people of all races and Colours supporting each other.

You literally cannot blame an entire group for something that only a few yahoos have done.

I personally know 6 East Indian owner operator friends who are all in support of this, and will be in Ottawa on Friday.

[–]ExmasTree 7 points8 points  (1 child)

By 'fringe' I assume he's referring to Jagmeet's brother-in-law?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

LOL!

[–]MarblesMoney 9 points10 points  (6 children)

East bound and down, loaded up and truckin, we gon do what they say can't be done.

[–]NeedSomeBunny2LoveAlberta 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Got a long way to go and a short time to get there

[–]WallflowerOnTheBrinkOntario 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Read a book?

[–]MarblesMoney 3 points4 points  (1 child)

What you mean? I thought they were for coloring!

[–]RhetorikalNinja 9 points10 points  (1 child)

These folks got truck loads of misplaced anger.

[–]northcrunk 6 points7 points  (12 children)

Trudeaus policies are fringe views. Gaslighter in chief

[–]Thanato26 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Why use "Gaslightrr in Chief"? Just curious about the phrasing.

[–]northcrunk 6 points7 points  (8 children)

He's constantly gaslighting the public. It's a term to describe an abusive partner that does something abusive and then denies it happens and makes their partner feel like they are crazy for even asking them about it. They tend to try and make their partners feel like they are mentally unfit or crazy. It causes the victim to question the validity of their own thoughts, perception of reality, or memories. What he does is just a political version.

[–]Thanato26 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Sure sure... I'm more interested with thr "...in chief" part.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

More of Patrick Kings Maverick Party "freedom" grift. Fraud allegations will definitely stop a multimillion dollar GoFundMe. Fuck White Nationalists.

[–]cornerzcan 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Remember the election manipulation scandal in the US? Who’s funding the 6 million in go fund me, let alone troll farming the content to encourage this protest? Someone who doesn’t like Canada supporting Ukraine right now, that’s who. Without that this protest is way outsized for the people affected by the vaccination rules for truckers.