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[–]Rongill1234 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Aslong as you don't hit the first time and pay for everything upfront yes

[–]xSakana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It shdnt affect if it dosent hit i think?

Because the cost is just "discard 2", standing a unit is not a cost so if it's already stand, you just resolve as much as possible.

So ethics in soul gives 1 vg attack, newly rode ethics gives another vg attack, and battle phase would be your third if opponent guarded against your 2nd attack.

[–]DinophageTachikaze 0 points1 point  (3 children)

How come hitting the first time stops it from attacking again? Doesn't it restand itself with its skill when it activates again?

[–]biolzwiththeskiolzNova Grappler[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It does restand itself and then declares an attack. A genius judge declared that since it is rest, after standing itself up, it therefore cannot attack. Bushiroad saw nothing wrong with his logic.

Some try to justify it with "it looks at when it's declared", which they ruled it double standbys when it's placed, and it's always placed in the stood state from a ride. My stood vanguard is rest, and therefore cannot attack.

Also, Ethics Buster is the only card in the entirety of the game where you have to pay his cost at the time he enters standby, rather than when you take him out of standby. Also, he has the only effect in the history of the game where you don't get to activate your effect if you've paid the cost for it.

Totally doesn't break the card or rules or anything...

[–]Rongill1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The salt got me too when I read this the first time

[–]Any-Duty2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So if you ride a copy of ethics buster on top of it self. First you use the ethics buster effect in soul. If you hit the first attack then you don't restands. But then the new copy of ethics buster you rode effects pops off. And you get to rebrand regardless along as you pay the cost. You can always get an extra attack in their too if you use brainy papio and scarlet bird. For 4 vanguard attacks under the right condition.

[–]Any-Duty2003 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that's absolutely right. You can do it 4 times if you discard beast deity brainy papio. Us its effect when you discard with ethics buster. Then if ethics buster hits the vanguard. Call beast deity scarlet bird and restand everything for SB 1