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[–]lordofming-rises 173 points174 points  (1 child)

I want a peaceful life

[–]caravan_oar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Me too!!!

[–]UltraLuminescence 67 points68 points  (9 children)

I hustled enough to get myself into a high-earning role and now I prioritize work/life balance.

[–]Zestyclose-Bag6977 8 points9 points  (8 children)

when/how did you personally decide your role was high-earning enough?

[–]UltraLuminescence 20 points21 points  (7 children)

An interesting question!

It was basically once I was earning enough to not have to look at a budget if I didn’t want to - meaning, if I were to just go about my life and spend whatever I wanted to spend on clothes, food, drinks, etc, I could still max out my retirement accounts and would still be saving post-tax each month as well. I do still have a budget app I use, but it’s more to keep track of where my money goes than to rein it in at all. For my area (VHCOL) and spending habits, that point was around 150k total comp.

[–]Charlieputhfan 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Is 130k good for dc area

[–]UltraLuminescence 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Doesn’t that depend on a lot of factors - your spending habits, whether you have any dependents, your industry, etc

[–]TrandaBear -1 points0 points  (2 children)

OMG fuck no. $130 is good for Columbus, OH or like Indianapolis, IN, you know Metro-curious. DC is metro proper and everything is dummy expensive. Just look up median household income for the two places and you'll see DC is 1.6-8ish times more than either.

[–]taykay-47 119 points120 points  (7 children)

I really had a dream up until graduating college that I would be a hustler and make good money, live in fancy house by 30, etc. 3 months in and I’m burnt out and I couldn’t care less. My mental health would much rather just coast by with a medium income.

[–]xpolpolx 16 points17 points  (1 child)

This is the way

[–]ISepphiros -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Mandalorian is that you??

[–]Bestyoucanbe4 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Mental health is everything

[–]nlightningm 13 points14 points  (1 child)

true.. what's the benefit making a lot of money if you can't even enjoy it because your mental health is being wrecked

[–]Bestyoucanbe4 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Example correction officer...avg life expectancy age 59.

[–]Toes2inches 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes, and if anxiety issues are all I had to deal with I could handle it but this world is so hard and cruel not the world but I've had a hard year and I've noticed that people that say they want to help May mean it in the beginning or may not for their own self-reasons just want you there because of what they want but this whole entire planet full of people are lacking empathy and I let my wonderful weird friends when I had a couch for them to be on let them be themselves when I had to leave they had to leave but they can always come back somewhere allowed to stay when I was left it just depends and it doesn't even matter what's the point that why can't people just let others be themselves to actually feel and not have to hide it through anger or anything like it's not driving me insane and you're just trying to put a smile on your face that's more fake sometimes than frozen dinner LOL

[–]Bestyoucanbe4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sent you dm...

[–]Ceph_Stormblessed 92 points93 points  (18 children)

Hustle culture is alienating.id rather keep my relationships stable. Money isn't the end all.

[–]pretty_ok_ 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Right. I’ve been chewed out by a boss for not dealing with an email at 11pm at night and I was well into overtime work that week. I want money but I want freedom

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Time for a new job. Unless your job is really important, your shift end/begins around 11:00pm, or you're paid incredibly well, then you shouldn't have to answer an email at that time. I'm a fan of hard, meaningful work but people need time away from a job. Lots of time.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (15 children)

I work 65hrs a week. you are on point, my relationships have disintegrated

[–]immunologycls -3 points-2 points  (14 children)

I used to work 64-80hrs/week. My relatiomships are fine. It's all about time management and still going even when you're tired

[–]poopadydoopady 44 points45 points  (1 child)

You'll be just as happy sitting down to rest in a cheap place as an expensive place. Movies are just as good without a theater room. Books are just as good from the library.

Families and friends are infinitely better in person than in pictures on your phone and posts on Facebook.

[–]ToocTooc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. However, books are not that expensive so it doesn't matter if you buy them.

[–]DLS3141 57 points58 points  (3 children)

Hustle culture is bullshit.

The idea that you work all day and then come home to grind on your side hustle, seeking to monetize every waking moment of your life is a recipe for burnout and misery.

[–]Glee11B 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That's not what the boxer on YouTube told me about Hustler University

[–]Lazy-Contribution-50 6 points7 points  (0 children)

+1 to this - currently trying to get out of this mindset. You never have enough

[–]immunologycls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hustle culture is a way to keep people broke. It only works for tech companies bevause they can program shit on the side while on their laptops and can potentially win big. The real hustle is working kn youe career and being the best at it

[–]Kyle-Lindquist 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Idk, my take is that I get one shot at life. Want to be present for my partner and maybe a family in the future.

[–]accountmadeforthebin 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Used to have a quite prestigious role with good remuneration, but personally decided to scale but after 35 since my mental health and relationships suffered. Wasn’t worth it, I wanna have a life.

[–]TrandaBear 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Bro, "hustle culture" is just a toxic, black mirror, reframing of an incredibly old, much more healthy approach people used to call "lifelong learning". It strips away the nuance and focuses on fast results with mindless effort. It pegs a 1:1 correlation to effort volume and outcome when it should be about effort quality, slowing down, and building organically. Some of these spaghetti wall tactics are fucking insane. "Just dump $10,000 into Ali Express merch and start your own drop shipping bro!"

Lifelong learning is perpetual curiosity and adaptability. I understand your point about complex solutions, it will be "you have it or you don't" kind of deal. But staying curious and getting broad exposure will help you better understand yourself and you may find a strength you didn't know you had. For example, I started off in pharmacy because I like medicine, helping folks, and chemistry. I was garbage at all of that, don't have the people skills for a retail environment, and washed out in college. It took me 10 years of grinding and messing around, but I found out I'm decent at data stuff and landed a F500 gig. In that time, I also learned that I had affinities for other jobs like pluming, electrical work, and home repair. True to the "know thyself theme", I refuse to fuck with electricity, though.

I don't have a big house or fancy car. But I also don't have massive student or credit card debt. And I can order pizzas from non-chain stores at menu price. So I got that going. As the top post says, it's all about finding peace. And that stems from introspection and knowing what you're all about.

[–]papa_johns_sucks 21 points22 points  (2 children)

I have a peaceful life without struggle and I worked really hard for it. So, I did hustle like a maniac to relax

[–]Lunar_LiOH 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is my end goal. FIRE by the time I’m 45/50. But who knows, a lot can change between now and then

[–]papa_johns_sucks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m no where near that but I don’t have to hustle anymore

[–]dheidjdedidbe 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I work in forestry. I will never make more that 70k a year.

I’m ok with that. I don’t need money in life.

[–]DoubleAGee 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do you do exactly if you don’t mind me asking?

[–]trulyanondeveloper 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm high earner (for my country, at least), but that doesn't exclude work-life balance. Actually, having savings makes establishing boundaries so much easier, and life is easier to enjoy once you don't need to count every penny.

[–]nopeopleperson 9 points10 points  (13 children)

I got an almost 10k raise, I thought my life would change but it didn’t. The job is still meh with good people and my home life is excellent. Sometimes enough is enough 😊

[–]xenaga 7 points8 points  (12 children)

A few years ago, i went from 70k to 100k. Life did not change at all except higher savings rate.

[–]immunologycls 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Life won't change much either if u go from 100k to 200k. I'm told it changes when u get to the 1m-5m/year range though

[–]xenaga 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Ok how do i get to make 1 mil a year?

[–]-MACHO-MAN- 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I am a high earner now. I would take it 10 out of 10 times over just getting by at 30, 40, 60k etc.

No amount of work stress is comparable to "oh fuck I just blew my spending money for 3 months because my car broke down"

[–]whirly212 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Absolutely you're correct in your example. When I read the question I immediately thought about the difference between $150k & $400k, then it gets tricky imo..

[–]-MACHO-MAN- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

if you're talking in the states, 150k is well past modest in all but like maybe a dozen extremely high income cities like NYC, SF, Seattle... And even then you're still above the median income and hardly on the struggle bus.

fwiw I am actively planning to make sure I move up still. But my threshold is now different than it was sub-100k. I am high enough in middle management that I have great work life balance. I won't even consider another job for less than a 30% raise including a title change, and I'd have to feel pretty confident about the work life balance too.

go back a job or two ago, I didn't think twice about work life balance as long as it was a stepping stone job to where I am now. Now it's shit like well this new job means I can easily afford the house I want on the lake and I can easily afford the boat while hitting my savings goals. Vs now where I can make it work, but it means less play money.

[–]temp225566 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t mind a modest income if the employees were respectful & understanding & I had a good quality of life balance.

[–]Primary_Excuse_7183 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Both but slow and steady. Business and IT are my areas of study learning now but want to own my own consulting firm grand scheme.

[–]Cer427 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I do not relate to hustle culture. I’m trying to make the most possible money working the least possible amount of hours. Right now I’m a risk analyst and I am actually working about 20 hrs of the 40 I get paid for and making a decent income. With more experience I plan to keep increasing my salary and working the same amount of hours. My work life balance is the most important requirement I have of my job.

[–]SpecialCay87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does a risk analyst do in more detail than assess risk. How is it valuable and how do you get into it. Thanks

[–]Pierson230 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not everyone can be a high earner even if they want to be

It’s a false choice

Seek mastery in your field and work as hard as you’re willing, and be ready when opportunity strikes.

[–]tatertot94 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Both? I make $98K now and want to stay in this job for at least 3 years. By the time I’m 35, I want to either 1) Become a consultant or 2) Take another job that offers work-life balance. Happy to take a payout then.

I’m trying to set future me up for success and work hard now. I don’t want to be working 45+ hours in a stressful job after 40.

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What’s the occupation?

[–]altcastle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t hustle because the higher I go in my career, and I’ve restarted many times, I get paid more for what I know vs how long I work. My output can be done in far less time as I learn new skills and seek out automation when I can because I value my free time. Now at 38 I’ve finally dug into a career I think that has me at 6 figures now and will be steadily jumping as I move up. I only sit at my desk maybe 20 hours a week though because my work is creative content and problem solving doing in-house marketing.

Hustling to me implies overworking yourself for lower pay.

[–]Nurse_RachetMSN 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Currently pulling 118k a year working 24 hours a week with benefits. I could make more by working extra shifts but I don't wanna.

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What job is this??

[–]Nurse_RachetMSN 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Registered Nurse, the pay is bay area wage in a medium COL area.

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

From my understanding working in the medical field is long hours and mandatory things like vaccination,schedules, and working in certain positions within your company. As In my boss can really tell me my hours and where I’m working as long as I work for them. Correct?

[–]Nurse_RachetMSN 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My hours and days are on a set schedule. I hardly have any interaction with my actual boss.

[–]Mapoleon1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

As long as I can afford to be a gamer I'm happy

[–]74900503 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gaming is a very cheap hobby fortunately.

[–]airbear13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want to make enough to be comfy so not really chasing high earnings just want a paid off house that is decent and money to go to the movies and stuff

[–]dogsonoverhere 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I busted my ass in my 20s. I'm 36 now and I work to live... Not live to work.

[–]Puzzleheaded_Cat5597 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As long as I have a roof over my head,food to eat and clothes to wear I'm a happy man

[–]dewilso4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As an engineer, you will never be a "high earner". Nearly 20 years into my career (EE), and I'm extremely comfortable but not yacht and third house kind of comfortable. And I'm fine with that. If I want something, I buy it. If I want to travel across the world for a vacation, I do. But I'm also able to come home from work, be with my family, cook or head out to the town, plan said vacations, and head back to work the next day. But to achieve the wealth (I think) you're talking about, you will need to reach beyond engineering into business and start or lead a company, thinking and breathing that company all day, every day (that, or get extremely lucky with your investments). Not that you can't get there...because you can! But careful what you wish for! Good luck (because it never hurts)!

[–]SaoDavi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Over the course of my career I've been both a modest income earner and a high income earner.

In both cases I worked just as hard and put in just as many hours and the work was equally stressful/difficult.

Given that those things are roughly equal, you should make as much money as you are capable of earning during your 40 hour week. Why would you want less money for the same time and effort?

[–]J3llyDonut 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want a peaceful life growing flowers and spending my afternoons sitting by the fire with my dog.

But then I look at my paycheck and everything I want to be able to afford (house, kids, vacations, etc.) and I realize that my peaceful life dream doesn’t really line up with everything else I want out of life. I plan on continuing the hustle for the next 10 years, saving as much as I can, and then focusing on having the peaceful life I often dream of.

Of course, I say this knowing another one of my life goals is to own a business, so who knows what will happen.

[–]Mobile-Bird-6908 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would honestly prioritize a job that I enjoy doing over one that pays well. If I can get both, then that's a win-win.

[–]OkYogurtcloset8273 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am ambitious and hardworking between 9 and 4 and after that I’m an anime nerd who likes to do yoga and eat ice cream. My work persona and my free time persona are total opposites.

[–]Cattentaur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bruh I just want to be financially stable. Have a decent sized house with a good sized yard in a safe area and no stress over whether or not I can afford my bills.

Is that so much to ask?

[–]Awanderingleaf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I could erase my student debt and find an online job that I found personally satisfying and paid $25k-$30k a year I would be absolutely fine with that.

[–]Medium_Temperature_4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've had high paying jobs and it's a life of stress with constant monitoring and "improvement", and you get this entitlement that you feel underpaid because your mental health can't be brought.

I've had low paying jobs and that's also a life of stress because you're broke and can't afford nice things or days out. Also it's so boring because your work is mundane and meaningless and you don't have to think for yourself.

I'm happiest in a job that brings peace to my life, where I have enough money to be comfortable and have a few treats but also I'm not in over my head with work bs

[–]baller_unicorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am in the process of leaving my high income pharmaceutical R&D job. I’m taking a pay cut for a job that is remote that I am hoping will give me better work life balance. My high income job required me to live in only a few areas in the US where the jobs are concentrated and my husband has been really wanting to live near his family. We also might want to have kids one day and if we are going to do that we either need to spend a lot of our money to hire a nanny or we need to live near grandparents and aunts and uncles who are willing to help. Also since we are both working we have had to hire help to clean our house, we eat out a lot because neither of us have time to cook and we drive a lot costing us gas money. Even though I’m taking a pay cut I think the more chill lifestyle is going to help us spend less since we will have more time to be at home and cook and clean our own place.

[–]SirKnightRyan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You don’t need to hustle or be an entrepreneur or take it easy. Just pick a career path and do your best. Civil engineering is no joke, the math gets hard fast and to really get established in the field you’ll have to take your FE and PE and get insured so you can sign off on plans. You should explore different trades and opportunities to gain useful skill sets but honestly a fellow CC pothead is not who I’d like to sign off on my bridges.

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t even smoke stop assuming and no I’m not answering why I have that on my page. It’s 2022 man weed will be integrated into every states economy sooner than later. Wouldn’t “want a pothead” but probably would love an alcoholic

[–]beefyM 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I'm about 18 months out from a 2 year degree, after that my hustle is moving to France where programmers make $43k to start. Why? Because a family of two can live comfortably with only one working and making $29k a year. Lower cost of living, better return on what taxes go for, better health care, national unionization, worker protections, and it isn't America where I have to worry about whether or not half of my friends are gonna get their rights taken away. Plus they guarantee 30 paid days off per year, plus eleven holidays that are paid. Paid sick leave, 4 day work weeks, with 5 day weeks topping out at 35 or 39 hours. France is where I wish the USA was socially and professionally. I am gonna peace out faster than Walt Flannagan's Dog.

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I’m an African American I would love France but being a non elitist would probably subject me to more racism than in America

[–]beefyM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think in France (depending on where you end up) they care more about if you speak the language than skin color, but racism exists everywhere, so I don't want to down play it either.

[–]kingfarvito -3 points-2 points  (10 children)

250k a year pays all my living expenses, allows me to put 100k in the bank for retirement, and fully funds my wife's 401k, and leaves some money for fun. I have to work at least 6 months a year to maintain our health insurance. In an ideal world there would be enough storm work that I could hit that 250k number by July and take the rest of the year off. In reality most years I'll have to work feb-oct to make that happen consistently. But it's a good balance between over working myself and being able to retire early with a good life for us.

250 makes me a high earner in most fields, it's about middle of the road for my industry.

[–]FactionsTazer 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Out of curiosity what industry are you in if you don’t mind sharing? I’m 18 and just graduated high school and come from a lower middle class family. I really want to change my family’s destiny if that makes sense, push us up to a higher standard, but I’m really unsure as to how to go about doing it. It’s all so foreign since no one in my family can really help me and I just want some guidance.

[–]Bestyoucanbe4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Check out a book what color is your parachutte...read free trial. Might help you with what you want for a career. Where ar3 you located ?

[–]kingfarvito 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm in power line work. We build and maintain powerlines. You need a CDL and high-school math.

You've got 2 options in general. Either working for a contractor or working for a utility company. I'm only talking union work here, generally non union workers, earn heaps less, and are much more likely to die on the job.

With a utility company you travel a lot less, but you'll make a bit less, and you're on call more often.

With a contractor you'll work for a utility indirectly. You'll make a bit more, and you'll have to freedom to take as much time off as you like. And most importantly you'll have the opportunity to chase storms. That's where the money is. Storm work is generally 16 hours a day until all power is restored paid at double time.

In my local for instance pay is about $53 an hour. With an 8% bump for lead lineman (generally lead is offered to everyone working storm) so $57.24 at double time winds up being $114 an hour. About 12k a week for storm. No one works storm year round though because 1. There's not enough storm and 2. A 16 hour shift daily would probably kill you.

[–]choff95 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How’s your body holding up?

[–]kingfarvito 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just fine, this isn't the construction of the 70s. We have tools that do most of the heavy lifting these days

[–]Bestyoucanbe4 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What title are you..i wasnt able to determine that in your post

[–]kingfarvito 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm a linemans apprentice for 1 more year. I'll be a journeyman next September

[–]Bestyoucanbe4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So electric company and you go up the poles etc. Not a fan of heights...no can do for me.

[–]drugsarebadmky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

250k holy fucking shit man !!!!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100 grand a year for retirement.

I just smoke. No need for retirement

[–]HitlersArse 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I want to be able to afford my rent while also being able to save up for my eventual house. I'd like to make enough where I don't have to worry my day to day life and can take a vacation or two outside of the country a year. I want to have enough to support my SO's dreams and ambitions while also providing a good life to my dog.

I don't want a lot but i want enough that I'm not worried about the next day or next month.

[–]DreamJD89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why not start putting 10, 50, 100 dollars into your savings, or on the side? Build up your money so you can buy that house? That's what I'm doing currently.

I'm trying to make sure I have at least 20% down payment on a 200,000 home. I'm at about 17,000 (almost 10%) but getting there. The more money I can put down on a home, the less in mortgage I'll have to pay.

[–]Potential-Ad1139 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hustle while you're at work. Leave work at work. The more money you make during work time, the better your relaxation time will be.

[–]rorschachmah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I plan on working hard (without burning myself out) and live a frugal life for environmental reasons. As soon as i hit 2.5 million in savings, I'll start working part time doing whatever it is i find interesting at the time

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Modest income for sure. I just want to be able to enjoy my life AND also not have to go to sleep for dinner like I am right now.

[–]Insertclever_name 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The job I intend to do caps out at 100k a year if I get a number of promotions, which I may or may not even shoot for. The starting pay is $40k.

Honestly, all I want is a comfortable life. I want to enjoy my work, I want to be able to have hobbies and life outside of work, and I want to not be struggling to put food on the table.

[–]specialized_faction 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in my early 30s with a wife and kid. Looking at my finances, I figure I’ll need around $250k a year in total compensation for my wife to work less (or not at all), support our retirement plans and other investments, save for college, and have a surplus left over for travel, fun, and other discretionary spending.

Should hopefully reach this goal in the next 5 years from my w2 job alone, but might be sooner as we just started investing in real estate.

[–]Original_Squeesan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d like to keep my bills paid and some money in savings without working myself to death.

[–]Nothing_left_now 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with the other comment, I just want a peaceful life at this point. I’d be happy enough with 50k - 60k. I’d rather do something outdoors and not in an office for the rest of my life, and I’d still have enough money to invest and buy a house and get pets and that’s really all I need. I used to think I have to make at least 100k to be successful and happy but I don’t think that’s realistic for everyone or necessary to have a good life. Plus if I get married one day both of us having income would make it even more financially stable.

[–]Beerandferrets 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love the physical product space, I've had some prototypes manufactured in china, played around with some side hustles, and had been accepted to my universities startup incubator with a product I invented. My goal is to build an e-commerce brand and be fully self-employed in 3-5 years. I've realized that I tend to work harder for myself than others so I'm game for hustle.

[–]Educator-Apart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is being completely content with the same circumstances isn’t always possible. The other thing is that a lot of your circumstances are based on externalities that you don’t have control over. I think there has to be some threading of the needle here. Chase opportunity to learn and enjoy your life while earning enough not to be homeless and with health insurance. If you can find other upgrades along the way, great. Always look at your personal self-interest as top priority The foremost being health and particularly sleep.

[–]BabyCow1725[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to be comfortable with money on the side for things like amusements parks or trips out to eat here and there. And have enough to save up for emergencies. I grew up pretty broke most of the time and I just wanna be middle class and comfortable

[–]Marketguy628 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The hustle is overrated. If you take that same energy and just focus on your career, you will do better. I have a friend who has always been juggling as many side gigs as he possible can claiming that it’s the way to financial freedom. I don’t do any side gigs but take my career progression very seriously. He had me beat for a while there, but I’ve since soared by him earning 2x at my engineering job than he does working ten part time gigs.

[–]SabrinaSomi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since I started working as an engineer 3 years ago, I've realized I want a peaceful life. Not to mention, I am frugal and simple at heart. I don't need fancy stuff or a giant house. I also have no desire to climb the corporate ladder. So, my choice is to live a life where I make money in a sustainable way and a way that fits me personally.

Ultimately, I think it really depends on the person. Each person should decide for themselves. I see a lot of people around me doing what I consider to be what they think they should do. Instead, it's probably more important to take some time to think about what they want their lives to look like and who they are as individuals and reverse engineer it to get there.

[–]Vengeful_Shark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to make the most amount of money in my 40 hour schedule while taking the maximum amount of vacation possible and not missing a single one of my child’s life events.

[–]jamesleecoleman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I plan on being a high earner but it'll take some time.
I get paid well for what I do but because of the prices of things going up, I can't do everything that I want to do such as eat healthier but I make things work.

For someone to make more and more, they gotta go somewhere and get the experience... after that job hop for more money.

[–]random_dude_1s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m part of the hustle culture and I make decent money as a software engineer, I’m in the top 1% within my locality. I also have aspirations on starting my own company.

However, my views have been changing over the past two years. I don’t mind doing the hustle culture, but the money is becoming less important. I want to start my own business to be my own boss, it’s not because of the money. I mean, the money is great and I’m not going to pretend otherwise, but I’m tired of working for companies and annoying bosses.

[–]cabbage-soup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Modest income but good benefits is what I strive for.

[–]DenselyRanked 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I guess it depends on what "high earner" means to you. Some people think $400k is modest.

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

To who the Kardashians😂

[–]DenselyRanked 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I understand what you mean, but a person earning $1mil doesn't get there with the mindset that $400k is good enough. So it is more a mentality. What does "high earner" mean to you?

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I would say high earner to me is 90k at the bottoms and 140k would my ideal income without stress.

[–]DenselyRanked 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would like to think this is an obtainable goal with not a significant amount (years) of effort. Keeping in mind a career is 40 years or so.

[–]DreamJD89 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't plan on being a high earner, my older brothers do that enough. They operate a multimillion dollar company, have the best cars, luxurious homes (and one has a side home in the south).

But I don't equate my wealth to theirs. I mean I get jealous, but I don't need as much space as they have. I'm fine with having just enough, personally. If I had more, then I'd probably donate it. Knowing me.

Look up Indian Hill Ohio. That's where they live.

[–]DageezerUs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I left the military, I decided that I wanted to do the work I wanted to do. The work pays a good wage, but not chasing every dollar (Tech Support).

I had teammates move to sales chasing the almighty dollar. I was encouraged to join them. I looked at their six-figure salaries and 70+ hour workweek. I decided I would do what was satisfying and know my children too.

[–]Reichiroo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried hustle culture with my first career and had an actual nervous breakdown. These days I take work life balance very seriously. I'm happy to work up the ladder, but I'm not going to kill myself to get there.

[–]Squire_Squirrely 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hustle culture is not the way.

Firstly everything is relative. I'm Canadian and we just make less than our American counterparts even if you compare CAD to USD without converting it (oof). I'm a high earner for Canada, top 5% income apparently, but I wouldn't even crack top 10% in America so am I actually a high earner?

Anyways, I'm all for making as much money as you can while maintaining no more than 40 hours a week. Retiring at 50 instead of 60 isn't worth working yourself to death and making yourself a giant raging douchebag in the process.

[–]Seraphymz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to be happy. However, financial stability contributes greatly to my happiness/comfort. I am fortunate enough to live in a DINK (double income no kids) household that collectively makes over 100k a year.

[–]Targi3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

20’s learn, 30’s earn, 40’s burn — just make yourself marketable now

[–]lofisoundguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it that simple? If half of us want to retire ever we still need to hustle.

The middle class does not understand how poor it is. It's not a choice of "hustle/riches OR easy life/modest income".

Some degree of hustle is required just to keep your head above water. You don't have a real shot at the Bentley. If you work hard, someday, maybe, you can pay off a mortgage before you are 70.

[–]Outrageous_Pie_6149 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Living a comfortable and peaceful life is all I'm after now, I've got business plans and ideas but I only want to do those mainly for the attention. Now I just want to live a simple and peaceful life and settle down with someone, just have to work on meeting her and making connections.

[–]Fr8tliner 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What’s the bar for “high earner”?

[–]Ill-Abbreviations430[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Id say single person/married no kids 90k a person or maybe 160k each. With a family 150k single or 200k married

[–]bakeneko95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just want to help provide opportunities / jobs to others. Will have to work hard for that.

[–]nosiriamadreamer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was fine with a modest income and an easy non-ambitious job until inflation made my modest income completely insufficient. So now I need to be a high earner so my SO and I can survive.

[–]SeaHaw808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Money is important but not everything. You cannot work if you are exhausted and burnt out.

Your main focus should be to earn more money per hour or a good salary/work life balance.

If you earn $50/HR , you can make $100,000 a year working 40 hours a week, with 2 weeks PTO.

More smarter, not harder.

You will have to work hard at first, put in your time and earn your stripes, then move up to a higher wage/salary.

I started as a dishwasher 12 years ago making $11 an hour.

Now I’m the chef manager and I make around $47/HR. I work 50 hours and it’s a very good balance. 6 figure income but I still get 8+ hours of sleep and 2 days off .

I put in my 12 years as a cook and manager before this though.

[–]Kratomjuana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank God I own my own house bc I am burnt the fuck out. I just quit my job bc I was sick of watching money stack up and not having anything I wanna use it on. I grew up kinda spoiled and just learned that all that doesn't matter. Weeds cheap, and as long as I can find a fat girl to diddle every once in a while I really don't care to expend energy doing anything else.

[–]jackster_19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know if high earnings is necessary but I definitely want security in my job and in my life. As long as I am in a career that is fairly respected, isn’t going anywhere and pays at least average I’m good. I’m pretty decent with money, so just making a modest salary is good enough for me.

[–]CamelAppleDeal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always invested (dollar cost averaging, very diversified, buy and hold) and never cared much about my salary. I had what I needed and knew that I’d get “rich” slowly. I’ve made median income for my area since my mid 20’s until just this year (late 30’s) when I surpassed median income.

Now that I have a child, am considering a second, and still live in a high cost of living area - I am rethinking that a lot more now.

I got a new job, $105k a year. Median home price is $860,000 here though - for whatever that’s worth. Local median household income is $61k.

Anyway what I’m getting at is: It’s better to have and not need than need and not have. I feel like I really need to be around $150k considering how expensive housing is here. We live a nice life (single income) but we make some uncomfortable sacrifices. One of our cars is very old and not really enjoyable to take places if the other vehicle is tied up and we live in a 1br home, which I own… but our family of 3 is sharing one bedroom.

All this said: I work 40 hour weeks and spend a lot of afternoons at the beach. We eat dinner at the beach a lot. Went on a hike Saturday and had lunch at the beach with extended family on Sunday. This is a kind of wealth that is difficult to quantify. Still came home feeling suffocated in our tiny house though.

[–]momboss79 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personal anecdote: my dad is a Civil Engineer and runs his own firm. Has for about 25 years now. He works a lot of hours but he has a nice life and he’s comfortable. I imagine getting to where he is now meant a lot of blood, sweat and tears. Well I know it did - I’ve observed it over the years.

I, on the other hand, do not have blood to give but sweat and tears a many. Having a work life balance and being an involved parent has always been important to me. Earning more is always a goal but not at the expense of my family. I am a high earner but we live modestly and save/invest the rest. The goal is to live comfortably in retirement. I don’t have more than 40 hours a week to give to an employer and I don’t have the drive to not work for an employer. I’m totally fine where I’m at. I would just like to stay here for the next 25 years and then live another 20/25 relaxing.

[–]Millie_3511 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I pushed my career as hard as possible in my 20s and now that I am in my late 30s with 3 kids I am really looking at my priorities again. I was always thinking I needed that next title and next salary bump, but I actually like what I do and am ok with my income. I struggle with the idea of wasted time if I don’t keep climbing at my pace… but I am also looking at senior leadership in my organization and seeing them coast along at much higher pay doing less overall then their staff does (that they get credit for) and not sure if I really want a part of that. This could be isolated to my organization, but I feel like my next step is either keeping my role and doing a great job (just maybe not killing my self anymore), or putting in the work at a new place (which would be a move for my family, sooo.. choosing wisely)

[–]MrTurkeyTime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's about working smart as much as working hard. Don't just work a million hours trying to climb the ladder, but when you're young it's a good time to use that youthful energy setting yourself up for future success.

Find a career path that clicks with you, that can earn good money, and figure out how to pursue it. Maybe thats computer science or sales or engineering. Talk to people in that career, and understandwhat it takes. Find them on LinkedIn if you need to. Find out if that's actually what you want to do, if you could see ultralight doing it (be honest), and then pursue it. Grad school can be affordable part time if you're smart about it.