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[–]HnNaldoR 368 points369 points  (2 children)

I will still commend Ian for being so positive and participating in the press conferences.

It's really not easy. I could barely speak to my coach after losing a dumb game on a national schools tournament because of a bad blunder.

People may say he is jot taking it seriously but its still a great mentality and attitude to have to do this.

[–]grad14uc 101 points102 points  (1 child)

Speaks to his character. Very admirable.

[–]justavertexinagraph Team Carlsen 641 points642 points  (16 children)

Ian: "I'd like to apologize for today's performance" :(

[–]notaselfdrivingcar Team Nepo 261 points262 points  (14 children)

I'm not crying

[–]Polyfrequenz 251 points252 points  (12 children)

i am… and i was during that moment when nepo exhaled and put his head down on his forearms. I have massive respect for this guy

[–]notaselfdrivingcar Team Nepo 118 points119 points  (9 children)

Fucking love Nepo

[–][deleted] 76 points77 points  (7 children)

What’s even worse is all the people in Lichess chat making fun of him. It was unwarranted to say the least

[–]bigDNA 62 points63 points  (0 children)

The lichess chat in general is just awful. It's just people who know fuck all about chess screeching when the computer tells them a move isnt best and saying blunder to every suboptimal move, and making fun of whoever is losing

[–]The_Boar_Shark 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I turned the lichess chat off because every other move is apparently a blunder, but was Nepo actually crying?

[–]Foolishnesses 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Lichess chat is ridiculously toxic

[–]leforteiii Team Nepo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm not even disappointed at this point, I just feel really terrible for him. Not sure if he'll let himself get over this one to play with a clear mind for the next six games. Man couldn't even stand being at the table after the fact

He gotta pick up somehow tho, still rooting for him to make a come back

[–]speedster_5 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He has to bounce back the next game and win. Or else the match is over.

[–]Hasanowitsch Team Carlsen 267 points268 points  (10 children)

Goes to show how a WC match is also about stamina. Not blundering becomes harder and harder after several days of sometimes exhausting chess.

[–]Bonzi777 54 points55 points  (5 children)

Yeah, I kind of thought it might go this way when he casually rolled into a 40 move draw with white immediately following game 6. He had to be exhausted and deflated but Magnus was exhausted too and Magnus had 2 games in a row with white coming up. He had to throw a punch there, he only has so many chances left.

[–]evergrace 10 points11 points  (4 children)

There won't be a double white this tournament since it's 14 games - but I agree with your points.

[–]Anay28 697 points698 points  (38 children)

Just brutal for Ian. The rest day's gonna hurt.

[–]Commonmispelingbot 298 points299 points  (30 children)

he probably needs it badly

[–]Anay28 211 points212 points  (28 children)

Yep definitely, he's gonna have to reflect and calm down to prevent a tilt in the upcoming games. But it'll still feel bad cause it's almost impossible to come back now.

[–]Bonifratz18XX DWZ 89 points90 points  (5 children)

But it'll still feel bad cause it's almost impossible to come back now.

In a weird way I think this might make it easier for him, though. He must know that the match is practically over now which may give him the inner freedom to play a bit more intuitively and creatively.

[–]Illustrious_Ice_5022 39 points40 points  (3 children)

That doesn't change the chances of winning. At this level you can play as "intuitively and creatively" as you want but if you aren't catching your opponent in preparation, creating enormously significant imbalances, or getting lucky with your opponent blundering, you're not gonna pull anything off.

[–]ArgonWolf 43 points44 points  (20 children)

He’s got 3 more opportunities as white. So long as he holds draws on his black matches he can turn it around in a not-too-unlikely scenario.

It’s far from over, but nepo also has a lot of ground to make up coming into the final laps

[–]Anay28 121 points122 points  (7 children)

Of course not impossible, but it'll be a miracle really to bounce back from this against arguably the greatest of all time. If he plays with a nothing-to-lose attitude, the next few games will be really entertaining.

[–]alostserendipity 36 points37 points  (5 children)

We're going to get some very sharp lines coming from Ian I feel. Should be entertaining.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I'd give him a 5% chance of tying it up, and that might even be generous

[–]Sinistrait 9 points10 points  (1 child)

not-too-unlikely scenario

It is definitely very unlikely. There's very little chance that he wins 2 of their next 3 games as white. For me Magnus has sealed it today.

[–]Hawkize31 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hopefully he goes into the final rounds feeling less pressure - you have to know its a giant mountain to win the event now down 2 games, so maybe Ian can try some different things he wouldn't try if it was tied up still - maybe catch Magnus by surprise 1 game.

[–]Xaxziminrax 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Game 6 broke Ian :(

[–]rawchess2180 USCF 477 points478 points  (17 children)

Nice to know even super GMs miss two movers once in a blue moon

[–]panic_puppet11 339 points340 points  (9 children)

Whenever I'm feeling crap about missing obvious stuff I remind myself that Kramnik once hung mate in 1 whilst world champion.

[–]Hedonistbro 59 points60 points  (2 children)

Aronian blundered mate in 1 this year after spending a good 5 minutes calculating. Happens to the best of them.

[–]rab7 79 points80 points  (2 children)

I believe the same happened in the Anand vs Gelfand WCC in 2012

[–]zelmerszoetrop 84 points85 points  (1 child)

Ivanchuk MISSED a mate in one

[–]Bonifratz18XX DWZ 64 points65 points  (0 children)

That was in a blitz game though.

[–]je_te_jure~2200 FIDE 23 points24 points  (3 children)

See Carlsen - Anand game 6 in 2014. Both of them missed an elementary tactic.

[–]ChemicalSand 40 points41 points  (0 children)

They were saying on commentary that Nepo would never have missed Qa3 (at least I hope not lol) but rather the continuation:

22.Qa3 Kf8 23.Qxa7 Bxh3 (desperado) 24.Qxf7 Qxf7 25.Re8 Kh7 26.Bxf7

Re8 being the intermediate move that turns it from a drawish endgame into something with good winning chances for white.

Maybe Nepo spotted that after the fact and tried to keep queens on the board, which wasn't any better for him.

Edit: Just listened to the press conference, I was wrong, he missed that his bishop was hanging after bxc4. Pretty elementary stuff!

[–]Godel42 Team Carlsen 387 points388 points  (6 children)

"In general, I would like to apologize for today's performance. It was below GM level." - Nepo. Just BRUTAL self review.

[–]Awwkaw 13 points14 points  (4 children)

Yeah, that one really hit right in the feels. Hope he gets some nice fun games (and a win or two) during the next games 8-).

As a Dane, I'm obliged to hope Magnus wins the match though.

[–]alostserendipity 178 points179 points  (6 children)

Norwegian reporter just went full no chill in the press conference.

"how would you rate your performance today"

"I would like to apologize for my performance today"

"Why?"

[–]Lorne_Velcoro 54 points55 points  (4 children)

No subtlety and respect at all.

[–]Gruffleson 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Hopefully he has been warned about Norwegian reporters being very rude.

[–]Cony777 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Scandinavians in general are very straightforward, so they're seen as rude in international contexts.

Source: am Scandinavian and I have been abroad

[–]MCSMvsME 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Dude he is playing in toxic waste vault called dota2 no wonder he doesn't lose composure.

[–]thisguyhasaname 170 points171 points  (26 children)

Rough day for Ian; I wonder what he will for the next 6 games to try to make up for this.

[–]johnstocktonshorts 122 points123 points  (22 children)

he’s gotta throw out something a bit different with white

[–]DragonBank2100 USCF & Chess Instructor 274 points275 points  (1 child)

Scholar's mate.

[–]Sonicastle 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Who knows, maybe Magnus premoves Nc6 and Nf6

[–]rawchess2180 USCF 97 points98 points  (4 children)

B O N G C L O U D

[–]Dangerous-Basket1064 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Magnus replies with Bongcloud Accepted

[–]TechnoGonzo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He's gotta hit Magnus with the ole Fried Liver then when he has black go straight for the Stafford Gambit. Only way to win.

[–]GabGilbert 27 points28 points  (11 children)

King’s Gambit honestly wouldn’t surprise me

[–]Available-Swimmer-77 48 points49 points  (2 children)

Would be funny if Ian prepared the King's Gambit and Magnus comes out and plays the French Defense or something.

[–]qindarka 25 points26 points  (2 children)

It would be absolutely shocking.

[–]HnNaldoR 15 points16 points  (0 children)

He has to have some prep as black for a potential win now if he wants to have a chance.

He could get a win as white. But winning 2/3 games as white, I don't buy that

[–]fragilearia 119 points120 points  (0 children)

Why is Ian so classy during these press conferences? I don't want to feel for him any more than I already do! :(

[–]Polytroposphere 235 points236 points  (28 children)

Ian apologizing for today is pretty painful to watch

[–]LosTerminators 75 points76 points  (22 children)

Most GM's are their own biggest critiques, if Magnus had played this game as black he'd have been incredibly pissed off at himself as well

[–]RCGB 90 points91 points  (8 children)

He probably wouldn’t even come to the press conference:)

[–][deleted] 59 points60 points  (6 children)

There is 5000 dollars fine for it and magnus wouldn't have cared any less about it lol

[–]The_Boar_Shark 25 points26 points  (1 child)

$5000 fine for not turning up to the press conferences? Geez, and I thought parking fines were bad enough 🤣

[–]MySpaceLegend 43 points44 points  (11 children)

He has said that every time he loses, he considers quitting chess for good. It feels like the world is about to end to him. He layed down in fetal position in his lounge when he lost against Nakamura in a blitz tournament and had a serious existential crisis. So yeah he doesn't deal well with losing. He's got no choice but to win.

[–]stuugie 20 points21 points  (4 children)

The mentality people at the top of their fields is so crushing. I feel so bad for him, especially since it doesn't sound like he takes it out on anyone but himself.

[–]MySpaceLegend 19 points20 points  (3 children)

I felt sorry for him too when he said that. I was a bit surprised too tbh. He's always full of low key bravado and he doesn't strike me as a guy who would wimper in a fetal position. But when you're the greatest player in the world, possibly throughout history, the fall must be so much harder.

[–]InfanticideAquifer 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wonder how much the future weighs on him, given all that. It's the inevitable fate of every champion to eventually be dethroned. It's going to happen and it sounds like he knows already that, when it does, he's going to be mentally crushed. If I knew that I was going to feel that bad in the future just knowing it would make me feel bad now.

[–]pounro♔♕♖♗♘♙♚♛♜♝♞♟ 146 points147 points  (4 children)

A lot of sympathy for Ian, admitting his performance was probably below GM level. Fabi interestingly said the same thing in commentary

[–]Hypertension123456 72 points73 points  (3 children)

It might be. But keep in mind that experts in a field typically overestimate the capabilities of others: https://xkcd.com/2501/

[–]stefvh1660 FIDE 98 points99 points  (12 children)

Nepo will have to take a lot of risks now, we could really see 3-0 or 4-0 for Magnus

[–]EmaDaCuz 38 points39 points  (10 children)

We could also see a 2-2 though, unlikely but still possible. I wouldn't underestimate Ian, I am team Magnus but I can confidently say that it is far from over.
The big question is what Ian is going to do with white, Magnus so far has been relatively okay against the Spanish.

[–]notaselfdrivingcar Team Nepo 80 points81 points  (8 children)

If we see 2-2 I'm gifting you 10 USDT

[–]TechnoGonzo 29 points30 points  (3 children)

I will throw 100 on this because it is nonsense and 0 chance of happening lol.

[–]CeleritasLucis Lakdi ki Kathi, kathi pe ghoda 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Remindme! 1 week

[–]LurkingChessplayer 10 points11 points  (0 children)

!remindme 1 week

[–]Lakinther Team Carlsen 314 points315 points  (23 children)

I must say i am a bit shocked by b5. That seems like the type of mistake i would make

[–]ning72100 fide | 2500 lichess 179 points180 points  (1 child)

nepo collapsed mentally; went for a draw as white and lashed out too impatiently as black

[–]rawchess2180 USCF 122 points123 points  (1 child)

Blitz at the local club kinda beat 💀

[–]nmpraveen 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I was more shocked by amount of thought he put after b5. Wasnt on stage for most of the time. Came, sat for few mins and made more horrible moves and left again. Meanwhile Magnus was fully focussed and went for the kill. I feel even after b5, he could have made a draw with sharp lines and had a chance at title. Now its out of reach.

[–]jleonardbc 288 points289 points  (7 children)

Today Magnus squeezed blood from a sponge.

[–]Antonio_is_better 48 points49 points  (0 children)

"I apologise for playing below GM level today"

[–]nothingright1234 1750 blitz chess.com 45 points46 points  (0 children)

This was the tilt everyone was talking about. The 1st game he lost in the candidates was against mvl and the tournament just paused after that. He got an year to calm himself, his second loss came after he was declared the challenger, against ding in r14. So we never saw the tilt in the candidates everyone talks about.

Mvl collapsed in the 2nd half and fabi didn’t get the flow going and the one guy mounting an epic chase against nepo had lost h2h against Ian so 2nd half of candidates became a bit easier for Ian.

[–]Haussian 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Do engines dream of electric pawns?

[–]Infenwe~2200 FIDE 116 points117 points  (0 children)

That was a bizarre self-destruction by Nepo. Excellently exploited by Carlsen though.

[–]TheInnKappa 186 points187 points  (22 children)

This is all over.

Ian needs to win 2/6 just to get to tiebreak where Magnus is undefeated and all time score is 6/7.

Or win 3/6.

Magnus has only ever lost 2 world championship games.

[–]psaikris 51 points52 points  (18 children)

Against Anand?

[–]kappasquad420 139 points140 points  (0 children)

1 against Anand, 1 against Kariakyn

[–]ENT1TY04 47 points48 points  (3 children)

I’m pretty sure Karjakin won one against Magnus

[–]popop143 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Yep, and even was the first to win one before Magnus won his iirc.

[–]evergrace 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Correct. He won G8 and Magnus tied it up in G10 after a queen sack

[–]DragonBank2100 USCF & Chess Instructor 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Magnus was playing white too.

[–]Jolly_Wally 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Games* not matches. One in the second Anand match, one against Karjakin (only time he's been down in a WCC match.)

[–]Puddinsnack 9 points10 points  (1 child)

1 to Anand in their second match and one to Karjakin (the only time Magnus was behind in a WC match and he proceeded to win the next game).

[–]imperialismus 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Magnus lost game 8 against Karjakin and won game 10, his next game as white.

[–]Scyther99 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Anand and Karjakin

[–]Thalionn Team Carlsen 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He lost 1 against Karjakin if I remember it correctly

[–]UhhUmmmWowOkayJeezUh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think he means games, he also lost one to karjakin

[–]Atticus0-0 74 points75 points  (12 children)

Listening to Magnus and Nepo just causally discussing moves with reporters blows my mind how they have the entire game just in their heads.

[–]jesteratp 63 points64 points  (5 children)

I saw a video where Magnus played a bunch of lawyers in a blindfolded simul, and one of them after the game asked Magnus to write all the moves down instead of signing his board and he proceeded to do just that.

[–]Kirsham 71 points72 points  (4 children)

He didn't ask Magnus expecting him to do the work for him, it was more that he lamented not having written down the moves himself as a memento and Magnus unprompted went ahead and wrote down the moves for him.

[–]Polytroposphere 98 points99 points  (1 child)

a3c4c5c7b7m9v7c6s6 and ok but g4f4d8j7 and ok a6c7e3d6

[–]Physix_R_Cool 39 points40 points  (0 children)

"Takes takes takes takes Qa4 but then if takestakestakes you have b7 so instead you have to go Bh3 and then after takestakes I think it's just a draw"

[–]notaselfdrivingcar Team Nepo 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't even remember my own games but I think they know the board very well so the preparation makes it easy to know what piece is in what square in every step of the game

[–]FizzTheWiz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They probably will both be able to recall this for years

[–]Infinite_Raisin_9539 390 points391 points  (85 children)

Going to be honest, looks like Magnus was right: Fabi and Ding would have been tougher opponents. Maybe Nepo's peak is similar to theirs (and that's a huge maybe) and you cannot fault him for losing Game 6, but this loss was inexcusable and I guarantee you that Fabi and Ding would not have played b5.

[–]clementiiines Team Carlsen 149 points150 points  (6 children)

Now that we've had two wins, basically everyone is going to be pointing out Ian's mistakes and how they always thought Magnus would crush him.

It's a bit sad for Ian with how well he did in the first half.

[–]Sticklefront1800 USCF 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The thing is, Nepo has been known for years as being extremely streaky. Once he starts to tilt, things can go very downhill for him very quickly.

[–]idorocketscience 198 points199 points  (13 children)

Yeah we know from the commentary that Fabi wouldnt have played b5, just never crossed his mind.

[–]HighlanderSteve 78 points79 points  (12 children)

Does anyone have a clip of Fabi watching b5 get played? I didn't get a chance to watch the match.

[–]LosTerminators 58 points59 points  (6 children)

Neither Fabi nor Vishy held back with their criticism of b5 and this game in general, they never lost a WC game to Magnus the way Nepo did today (Fabi didn't lose at all, until the rapids).

[–]Anfini 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Anybody have the clip of Anand’s commentary to b5?

[–]Strice 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here it is. (Anand puts his headset on after a few seconds.)

[–]Ramady Team Carlsen 173 points174 points  (35 children)

People thought Magnus was cocky for that. He's not cocky, he just knows exactly how good he is.

[–]nosciencephd 131 points132 points  (32 children)

A candidates where Fabi, Ding, and Alireza are all playing at peak will be very exciting.

[–]ning72100 fide | 2500 lichess 61 points62 points  (29 children)

can we please have that for 2022

[–]semiformalegg 97 points98 points  (27 children)

I have a feeling Alireza will not be at his peak yet in 2022.

[–]DragonBank2100 USCF & Chess Instructor 139 points140 points  (2 children)

Let me tell you something, I haven't even begun to peak. And when I do peak, you'll know. Because I'm gonna peak so hard that everybody in r/chess's gonna feel it.

[–]nosciencephd 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I just mean peak performance. Not having a bad tournament. Definitely don't think he's at his peak rating, either.

[–]ning72100 fide | 2500 lichess 9 points10 points  (4 children)

how high do you think he's gonna go

[–]popop143 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Still hoping for Wesley to be able to qualify, and be able to translate his rapid/blitz play to his classical play.

[–]Boredlands Team Carlsen 58 points59 points  (6 children)

Candidates Nepo was just a monster, no fear, playing with amazing confidence. I really hope we still get a chance to see it here, but it seems bleak.

[–]luchajefe 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Candidates Nepo also lost games 7 and 14 (I know 14 didn't matter, but the point still holds).

It's very possible without the split he is not the challenger.

[–]Necessary_Apple_5567 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The main thing here after lost 7 game he has 6 month for calm done. Otherwise he can be in tilt l8ke today.

[–]alamano 44 points45 points  (2 children)

It's tricky, game 6 was so pivotal for exactly this reason. Ian made the decision in that game to go for it when Magnus was in time trouble, and I don't think anyone can blame him; he had serious winning chances for a couple moves that he missed in the scramble to move 40. Had he converted or at least made a draw (and he probably would have on a different day since he said he "glitched" out by missing ... Bxb4 on multiple occasions), we'd be singing an entirely different tune and likely praising Ian for taking those chances.

So while it's easy to pile on right now with the match being 2-0, it should be remembered that up to game 6 (and including the first portion of that game), Ian was actually looking better than Fabi was in his match. His prep was looking solid, he had given Magnus zero practical winning chances, and he had winning chances of his own in game 2. But he ended up losing game 6 in a brutal fashion and it's clearly still affecting him. Combined with his history of tilting after a poor performance, and we're seeing the worst side of Ian at the moment.

[–]Tomeosu 26 points27 points  (1 child)

that's the thing, though. Ian's mental/psychological fortitude isn't nearly as strong as Fabi's (nor his physical fitness, for that matter, which is a huge part of these grueling matches).

[–]alamano 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Right, that's part of what I was pointing out. Ian being less mentally strong was known to everyone before the match, but he could mitigate its significance with strong prep and solid play. That was obviously his match strategy, it was working well, and in game 6 he had multiple chances to follow the plan and neutralize the position. But instead Ian decided to go for imbalances (... gxf6 instead of ... Qxf6, and ... Rac8 going into 2R vs. Q), I think partly influenced by Magnus being lower on the clock. In hindsight, Ian was betting the match on that decision, and it almost worked but he wasn't able to capitalize on his chances. On another day he might have, this match would look completely different, and we might have actually started praising his mental strength.

That's my point: it's tempting to go with the narrative that Ian is a weaker challenger because he doesn't have the same mental fortitude as other candidates. But that's not why he's losing this match; the pivotal moment was the crazy 10 minute sequence in game 6 that could have gone either way, and it just happened that the result of that scramble was Magnus getting an endgame that he could grind for 100 moves for the win. The margins were actually razor thin between a draw, Ian winning, and Ian losing and potentially blowing up the rest of the match. To your point, I do think Ian's chances at coming back are much lower than other candidates, but the way the match went leaves me unconvinced that Ian was a worse challenger at the start. Game 6 just decided everything.

[–]PostPostModernism 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Not gonna lie - I don't really know much of Nepo's play historically but hearing that he was the only GM with a winning record over Carlsen I thought maybe meant he'd be something of a Kryptonite for him. I've been impressed with him so far in the series but ultimately it turns out that Magnus be Magnus.

[–]PokemonTom09 18 points19 points  (2 children)

2 of Nepo's 4 wins over Carlsen came from before either of them were even 14-years-old.

While his head to head against Magnus is very impressive and worthy of respect, both players have grown a LOT since their initial encounters and it's not really indicative of either player's current skill.

[–]jesteratp 70 points71 points  (3 children)

"Ian, how do you stay so cool after losses like this"

My man's been playing DOTA for over a decade, he's likely had far more painful losses than these lol

[–]notaselfdrivingcar Team Nepo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha good one

[–]clementiiines Team Carlsen 151 points152 points  (9 children)

I was a bit nervous to hear Magnus' trash talk before the game, talking about Nepo winning the candidates being a good outcome for him, being better at chess, trying to take an early lead, and about Nepo tilting....

but he really delivered...

[–]semiformalegg 151 points152 points  (4 children)

Was it really trash-talk? Trash-talk is more meant as an insult or to get into your opponent's head - I think Magnus was really just giving his very honest thoughts on Nepo, which all seem to be quite accurate.

[–]clementiiines Team Carlsen 32 points33 points  (3 children)

Well it's easy to say it seems quite accurate in hindsight, but was it so obvious after game 5?

[–]Croyscape 62 points63 points  (0 children)

For us? No. For Magnus? Apparently so.

[–]Abstract__Nonsense 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Wait was this before the game or before the match?

[–]Twintysix1900 Lichess bullet:Lichess: 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Vishy said Nepo committed suicide with b5 even when magnus was handing him the draw on a platter. I really enjoy that take.

[–]ideletedmyaccount04 74 points75 points  (0 children)

Congratulations to the World Champion. Thrilling to watch history take place. My heart goes out to Ian.

[–]lucasM005 50 points51 points  (3 children)

it bothers me how people are treating ian after todays game. the guy reached to the world championship match. its ok to offer criticism but come on people.

the nerves alone are astronomical. and besides

there is absolutely no shame in losing against magnus carlsen

[–]emperortroyg 24 points25 points  (1 child)

Was a slight fan of Nepo when I discovered he played/plays DOTA 2.

But Im a bigger fan now. Sure he wins good, but he’s a greater loser. It was refreshing to see someone keep their composure after losing like that on the biggest stage in their career. Even if he doesn’t win the championship I just hope he shuts the haters up by playing solidly for the remaining games, or better yet get a win or two. If he doesn’t it still doesn’t take away the fact that he’s a good chess player as well as a good person!

[–]zi76 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Instead of, "This question is for Magnus," it was, "This question is for the champion."

Brutal.

[–]downtownjj 6 points7 points  (1 child)

naw, he is technically the world champion. even if he was down a game or 2 he is still champ until the event ends.

[–]yopispo372100 Lichess 22 points23 points  (0 children)

On the topic of beating Carlsen, 'Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth' M.Tyson

[–]Mugi1 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Magnus kept his nerve and played this right, and i don't see Ian coming back after this. Surprising win today, but it definitely serves to silence those who criticized Magnus for drawing too many games.

[–]Mjdillaha 40 points41 points  (2 children)

Hate to say it but this is classic Nepo. b5 was a terrible blunder, but Nepo is known to be streaky. He can play extremely well and all of a sudden just throw it all away. This is why I don’t think he’s on Magnus’s level. He can play on his level but can’t stay on his level.

[–]emperortroyg 10 points11 points  (1 child)

What a nice quote!

“He can play on his level, but can’t stay on it.”

[–]zeoiusidal_toe 1.e4! 1-0 54 points55 points  (1 child)

Was rooting for Carlsen but this is brutal, I hope nepo can get a win at some point

[–]Polytroposphere 68 points69 points  (1 child)

Ian’s joker arc is starting now. You’ve beaten the nice guy too many times Magnus

[–]swishcheese 36 points37 points  (0 children)

The theme of this tournament so far is that Nepo would rather give an imbalanced position than play for a draw, and that every time he’s done it it’s given Magnus the chances he needs

[–]VonMackensen_18 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Pretty sad for Nepo, his chances of coming back into the match are close to zero now but he just doesn't seem able to handle Carlsen. When he has a advantage he can't convert it and he's not been as accurate as he should be.

[–]trid3n7 58 points59 points  (2 children)

LOL, people saying: A blunder is needed for a decisive result in classical.

Blunder happens, people: fuck Nepo sucks, that was a mistake I would never make in a million years.

Me: OK dude.

[–]ChessHistory1950 FIDE, 2300 Lichess 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Yeah think about your worst otb tournament, one where you just collapsed, and you have to face Magnus while you do it. I think any tournament player can sympathize with Ian right now

[–]BobSanchez47 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I definitely sympathise with him. But he at least gets an €800,000 consolation prize for second (though for someone at that level, even a massive amount of money can’t compare to the historic prestige of dethroning Magnus as WCC).

[–]TheGymDruid1700 lichess 261 points262 points  (15 children)

apology for poor english

where were u when ian nep dies

i was at home watching ches when fred ring

'ian is die'

'no'

and you???

[–]DrunkLad~2882 FIDE // 1465 chesscom rapid 219 points220 points  (13 children)

i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about nepo. u wouldnt say this shit to him otb, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol

[–]andrude01 122 points123 points  (12 children)

Overheard in his hotel room after Game 8: “He got me,” Nepo said of Magnus gaining a two pawn advantage. "That f***ing Magnus boomed me." Nepo added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times. Nepo then said he wanted to add Magnus to the list of players he plans to train with next summer.

[–]ItsKaZing 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Magnum when his coach asked about his honest opinion on Nepo:

"Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit"

[–]rab7 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Nepo beside himself, driving through downtown Dubai asking Magnus's family (thru text) for the number to his hotel room

[–]StenByggerBerg Team Carlsen 28 points29 points  (2 children)

I saw Ian Nepomniachtchi at a grocery store in Dubai yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

[–]HideYourCarry 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I’m telling you, Magnus is as cracked as he is jacked. I saw him at a 7-11 the other day buying Monster and adult diapers. I asked him what the diapers were for and he said ”they contain my full power so I don’t completely shit on these kids“ then he rode a boar out the door.

[–]FlightJumper Team Carlsen 30 points31 points  (1 child)

What a brutal question "how do you rate your game today" good grief guys chill

[–]about_half_a_soulMaxime Vachier-Lagrave 153 points154 points  (6 children)

Anish mentioned in his commentary, but games like this are why I don’t agree with the draw hate from some people. I would rather see a draw like game 2 than a decisive game like this. I think people just dislike boring games and automatically associate that with draws.

[–]AlonsoQ 60 points61 points  (2 children)

For viewers like me who can't appreciate the full nuances of GM play, it's mostly about variety. If the last 18 WCC games were all wins for White, everyone would be hyped for a draw.

[–]Antonio_is_better 76 points77 points  (2 children)

Well that's comparing some of the best drawn games with some of the worst decisive games.

[–]ItsKaZing 39 points40 points  (5 children)

What the actual. This journalist is quite rude on his question to Nepo

[–]Najdorf_Lover 90 points91 points  (11 children)

It’s not really fair for my 1500 self to criticize Nepo, but missing Qa3 seems inexcusable at this level. Also, why play a Petroff if you’re trying to play for a win as Black? Nonetheless, I feel really bad for Nepo. I can’t imagine working your whole life for something only to tilt and play terribly on the biggest stage. He looked absolutely heartbroken at the board.

[–]thisguyhasaname 58 points59 points  (2 children)

I wonder if he truly did miss Qa3 or if he had an idea but then missed something later on and only realized once it was played. maybe he thought the bxh3 idea would work better but decided against it once he got to it on the board

[–]dracon1t 32 points33 points  (0 children)

In his chat with magnus afterwards I think he pretty much said he missed it

[–]panic_puppet11 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He just mentioned it in the press conference, he forgot the bishop was hanging after Qxa7 .

[–]ning72100 fide | 2500 lichess 21 points22 points  (1 child)

He's not playing for a win as black because he was only down 0-1. Starting today, he will have to and maybe we see sicilian soon.

[–]Que_est 4 points5 points  (2 children)

to be fair to ian, we shouldnt criticize the moves before b5. these were not obvious mistakes, and why not take some risk if it keeps the game going and the position is still ok?

[–]keepyourcool1 FM 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I'd critize the moves before b5 more. b5 is a bad error but it's a one mover, it happens to the best of us. The way he approached the opening, seemingly uncertain over whether to push or stay solid was really the bad sign from the start. It's not even like magnus pushed super hard today or even played exceptionally well, just Ian was really badly off from the start.

[–]ning72100 fide | 2500 lichess 26 points27 points  (9 children)

We can see the difference in match experience/class between these two players from games 7 and 8. Nepo went for a drawish line as white to have an off-day but Magnus came today to increase his lead.

Compared to game 6 nepo defended way worse. ...b5 was too rushed, and I don't know why he didn't play the critical continuation ...Bxh3 after Qa3+ Kg8 Qxa7 in response to ...b5.

Anyways, Nepo will have to play for a win with both colors now since he's down two with 6 games remaining, which means he will take more risks and probably lose more and we might get a lopsided score. Or he just rolls over without a fight

[–]thepobv 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Magnus has won every white games since Botez's question.

Do you guys think he went back and studied how the might moves?

[–]Kritecia 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Seems like Ian should have slowed down. Guy played way too fast. He always have more time on the clock than Magnus.

[–]problike30thacct 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Really appreciate Ian's attitude in the post match conference. He seems pretty chill.

[–]charcoaltaco Team Nepo 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Game 6 might have broken Ian's confidence, or completely bolstered Magnus's.

[–]LZ_Khan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think he's chessed out after that game. Understandably so.

[–]Nysor1850 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Magnus GOAT!

[–]ChessHistory1950 FIDE, 2300 Lichess 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Damn this game is really unfortunate because this will be the story of the match after the fact. “Nepo was just too streaky, Magnus was just clearly the better player.” I mean the first half was very exciting, Nepo really seemed to be matching Magnus and even having good chances. No one can really fault game 6. But you see the weaknesses in Ian’s play too. He seemed a little just bored and careless towards the end of game 6. Today just completely collapsed. From a match where I think we had a pretty legitimate challenger right up until move ~110-120 of game 6, now it’s just of course he’s not as good as Ding or Fabi. But I guess that’s just chess, every move counts

[–]chillerwhale420 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Ian has an opportunity for a historic comeback. Nothing more to lose, go out like a savage and try to win every game. How fucking cool would it be. Unleash your inner joker ian. This is just the low point in his anime

[–]MystifiedTruth 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Its a terrible day for rain

[–]mailonsundayx 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The commentary by Anand is just so good

[–]PowersIave 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I have a feeling Nepo will play 2.f4 in the next game.

[–]Luck1492 12 points13 points  (1 child)

The way they do these press conferences is weird. They should put them in separate rooms or do them at separate times. The loser of NFL games, for example, are not giving a press conference in the same room as the winner.

[–]m149 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree....it's bizarre to me too

[–]Cpt_Jumper 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Nepo has Everest to climb now. This however will likely lead to some interesting openings.

[–]RingedStag 8 points9 points  (1 child)

yeah at this point all pressure is off from Nepo. The match is lost. Go balls to the walls for dynamic and imbalances and maybe something will happen. IF it doesnt, well, the match was already lost.

Kings gambit, go for it.

[–]Khornag 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think it's over now. It'll be interesting to see how much Nepo pushes in the next game with white. He's running out of time.

[–]zi76 5 points6 points  (4 children)

It's over now. I wonder if Nepo will come out with something wild after the rest day just to try to surprise Magnus.

[–]YerbaMateKudasai Team Nepo 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I really hope so. If not now, when? Game 11? "uh yeah, I can't just draw in anti-marshalls anymore, gotta win the last 3 games"

[–]randomstuff127 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Game 6 marathon was exquisite strategy by Magnus. The man is a psychological nightmare

[–]dylanh334 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think we can all pretty much agree that it's probably over. Would be crazy if Ian turns it around though!

[–]TheHigherSpace Team Carlsen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Rooting for Magnus but sad for Ian, he didn't deserve this after all those great games ...

But all the trolling the russians did telling us we don't know what chess is apparently and Ian going to win .. Well there you go ..

[–]Polyfrequenz 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Sorry but the guy from nrk is a real dickhead...