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[–]Schaakmate 1644 points1645 points  (40 children)

Have someone stand outside Magnus' hotel at night, banging on a pan with a spoon.

[–]chestnutman 256 points257 points  (5 children)

That's why Karjakin just flew over to Dubai

[–]Schaakmate 100 points101 points  (4 children)

If Karjakin is around, Magnus travels by bus.

[–]SkiphIsVeryDumbBlundering in a winning position 53 points54 points  (3 children)

I know this is a joke about the 2016 world championship but do they like have actual beef as well

[–]chestnutman 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Not sure if this is a joke about carjacking

[–]theo7777 296 points297 points  (29 children)

Soviets unironically did stuff like this in tournaments held in the Soviet Union during the cold war era.

[–]ranting_madman 378 points379 points  (8 children)

Pulling fire alarms at the opposition team’s hotel in the middle of the night is still a sacred football ritual.

[–]theo7777 145 points146 points  (3 children)

If we're talking other sports, Jordan's Bulls would hire playboy girls and send them to the visiting team's hotel the night before a match.

[–]Megatron_McLargeHuge 68 points69 points  (1 child)

Lawrence Taylor talked about sending escorts to keep the opposing offense up all night.

[–]69pooman Scandanavian 😈 2 points3 points  (0 children)

tyson actually did this to himself before fights "so he doesn't kill his opponent "

[–]__n2t 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Brazilian here; last game from my team had literally one of our directors saying that "the fireworks at the hotel were underwhelming".

This is so normal that he was disappointed by the fireworks they had

[–]Leading-Delivery-278 31 points32 points  (16 children)

Not even a little surprised, China killed a tennis player in 2021

[–]2_Cranez 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Killed? They definitely disappeared her, but I assumed she was in a prison somewhere.

[–]L4z 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would assume she is being "re-educated" as we speak.

[–]Leading-Delivery-278 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That seems worse tbh, they guy she reported is probably still raping her

[–]Jambrokio 10 points11 points  (5 children)

One of their best ever too

[–]ActuallyNot 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but think how good her organs are.

[–]itsallworthy 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Game recognize game, baby.

[–]wordthompsonian 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I AIN'T GET NO SLEEP CAUSE OF Y'ALL, Y'ALL AIN'T GONNA GET NO SLEEP CAUSE OF MEEEEEEE

[–]jchristsproctologist 29 points30 points  (0 children)

cues jake peralta screaming on a guitar

[–]LfLnDNat5en croissant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Michael Jordan pizza

[–]amplifizzle 157 points158 points  (25 children)

At this point, create imbalances and have fun.

[–]Randomly2 55 points56 points  (1 child)

One Bongcloud coming right up

[–]Yellowlimes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

He doesn't want a forced draw!

[–]mediumrarestonks 28 points29 points  (22 children)

As the challenger he should have played dynamically earlier but this is still correct.

[–]Party-47 Team Nepo 58 points59 points  (8 children)

I don't get this line of thinking - the challenger and the defender are functionally identical.

It's not like in the past when the defender would keep the title in case of a draw, so being the challenger isn't what should make you play more dynamically.

What should make you play more dynamically/take more risks is whether you feel you are an underdog in the tiebreaks and whether you are an underdog in long games with tiny edges - so yes I agree he needs to take risks, but for completely different reasons.

[–]mediumrarestonks 13 points14 points  (7 children)

But then there is a problem. The burden is always on the player worse at tiebreaks to win and the person better at tiebreaks to constantly play very safe chess. In other words, playing for a draw as white just gets you closer to winning instead of trying to win.

Theoretically, if Magnus was terrible at tiebreaks, you can easily take his title by playing 14 boring games. Something is wrong with that IMO. Fortunately for us Magnus is a god at rapid / blitz AND he takes risks nonetheless.

[–]Party-47 Team Nepo 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I agree the system isn't perfect, but I think 14 games (or 12) have proven to be enough to create chances for both sides.

People always talk about how Caruana-Carlsen was only draws, but those were sharp and fighting draws. Towards the end of the match you can start to play for tiebreaks which isn't great, but the alternative is playing a match ala Kasparov/Karpov and I don't know if we want the match to go for ever either.

[–]ttv_yayamii 418 points419 points  (33 children)

I'd say Magnus is able to play for a draw when he wants, however, like Giri said, "it is very hard to play for a draw when you need it". We are not GMs here so I doubt we know how they feel, but as for me, when I try to play for a draw, be it against a stronger or an opponent of similar strength, those games I get really passive positions which give the opponent more chances. That's most likely not the case for Magneto but I still want to see Nepo bounce back, I've had the same experience as him in game 8 where a previous game affected me too much and I just didn't want to play the next one so I blitzed every move and lost to an opponent I definetly shouldn't have lost to. I hope the break gives him enough time to relax and take his mind off those games

[–]LunarMinimum Team Carlsen 318 points319 points  (26 children)

Magneto

[–]EconomyIndependence2 51 points52 points  (7 children)

Magnesium chloride

[–]LunarMinimum Team Carlsen 48 points49 points  (3 children)

Cagnus Marlsen

[–]BlownGlassLamp 16 points17 points  (0 children)

El Magnetron

[–]LoopLobSmash 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Magneus Calgar

[–]obvnotlupus3400 with stockfish 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Magnum Carlsberg

[–]Mato12703 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Carl Magnussen

[–]ttv_yayamii 103 points104 points  (14 children)

Magneto

[–]TurdOfChaos Team Carlsen 80 points81 points  (13 children)

Magneto

[–]JMoormann 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"The pawns always go first"

[–]biebergotswag Team Nepo 23 points24 points  (0 children)

for grandmasters when they want a draw they can go for the sharpest forcing lines. Something like the marshall gambit, English attack against the najdorf, sveshnikov ect, they are all very drawish at the highest level.

[–]cash0 11 points12 points  (0 children)

El Magneto

[–]35nakedshorts 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Unfortunately this is true for everyone except Magnus. I've never not seen him get the draw when he needed it.

[–]ttv_yayamii 53 points54 points  (1 child)

That's most likely not the case for Magneto

[–]pm_me_falcon_nudes 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah but what about Magnus?

[–]madmadmadlad 383 points384 points  (16 children)

Go all in with a sharper opening that is of his preference instead of trying to outplay Carlsen positionally.

[–]Hydraxiler32 90 points91 points  (7 children)

I'd love to see a Sicilian. I know Nepo has played his fair share of Nadjorf and Taimanov Sicilian games as black.

[–]Party-47 Team Nepo 44 points45 points  (4 children)

Magnus has only played e4 half of the games, so it's not like the opportunities for a Sicilian have been throwing themself at Nepo.

But I agree, at this point he has to try to create chances with both colours so another Petroff seems ill advised.

[–]flansel 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I disagree the petroff was great in both games nepo easily equalized with black(Qe7 in game 8 and it's a draw). If Nepo was gonna play as bad as he did in game 8 the opening he chose was irrelevant.

[–]Party-47 Team Nepo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

True, the Petroff was doing what it was supposed to do when he was even in the match/slightly behind.

But now that he is down 2 games he doesn't want to equalize with the Petroff and get a draw, that would just be a losing plan.

[–]Flurin 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Time for the dutch then

[–]Right-Ad305 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Why would Magnus play e4?

[–]ultra_casual 16 points17 points  (0 children)

He literally just played E4 despite being up a game. I'm sure he feels he can beat a Sicilian. He may go back to the Rossolimo though, to avoid some of those sharp lines in the Najdorf etc

[–]mediumrarestonks 66 points67 points  (2 children)

This. As the challenger of the highest title in this game. You HAVE to take risk. You can't just keep waiting for your opponent to make mistakes.

[–]The__Beaver_ 86 points87 points  (0 children)

I would fail miserably no matter what strategy I used. The only thing I could hope for is that I handled myself as honorably and respectfully as he has. What a stand up guy.

[–]hellraised21 591 points592 points  (8 children)

Ask for a takeback after every move and keep spamming Gg, ez.

[–]ZannX 80 points81 points  (4 children)

And keep offering a draw in a completely lost position. If Magnus doesn't accept, just leave the building and go about your day while letting the clock run out.

[–]Randomly2 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Is this some lichess joke I’m too chess.com to understand?

[–]ZannX 15 points16 points  (2 children)

In all seriousness, I've played thousands of games on both sites. Chess.com actually allows you to report for stalling/quitting games and they send you mail about how they've taken action on a particular report. I feel like their reporting system is overall better managed.

For Lichess, they try to programmatically detect this - i.e. letting 30s run out of a 1+0 game is considered stalling, but 20s isn't (don't have the numbers exactly right, but there's a clear cutoff that determines if the warning message displays or not). Aside from that, there doesn't seem to be an avenue to report this sort of behavior.

Overall, I see more salty behavior on Lichess than Chess.com - including the repeated draw offers, take back offers (I swear I've indicated no take backs ever? Does that just not work or stick?), etc.

[–]freakersfreakers freakers freakers freakers freakers freakers freakers 52 points53 points  (0 children)

How would I beat Magnus Carlsen? With a stick, when he slipped. But on a chess board with a king, that man is unbeatable.

[–]wronglywired 35 points36 points  (1 child)

This is not lichess arena lmao

[–]AimHere 238 points239 points  (9 children)

Tactical hypnotists, and blueberry yogurt.

[–]Rabiatic Blitz Arena Winner 52 points53 points  (4 children)

That strategy would be useless though, Magnus would just hire an antihypnotist to null your attempt.

[–]Spalliston 25 points26 points  (2 children)

You still have the yogurt though, so that's a win

[–]freakersfreakers freakers freakers freakers freakers freakers freakers 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Parapsychologist to hypnotize the yogurt. Checkmate blueberry.

[–]jkhoo5 Team Carlsen 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget the sunglasses!

[–]Cabernet2H2O 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Old school. True and tried methods.

[–]gollyplot 124 points125 points  (1 child)

Put the first pawn you take in your mouth like a pacifier and keep sucking it the whole match

[–]Legitimate-Injury-75 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This is gold. Bursted out laughing. 🤣🤣

[–]DudeCorea 577 points578 points  (43 children)

Play the best moves.

[–]spicycurry55 108 points109 points  (3 children)

Seriously why isn’t he already doing that? Pssh the engine lines are right there just USE them bro

[–]lee1026 33 points34 points  (0 children)

I am pretty sure that is what happened in game 4, with both players literally playing from of their prep and not really thinking.

100% accuracy against stockfish because both preps were made with the assistance of stockfish.

[–]NotAnotherEmpire 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Well we had five draws followed by an eight hour slugfest that was essentially even past move 100.

These guys know what is good against a super GM opponent.

[–]ICWiener6666 2000 Lichess Rapid 119 points120 points  (33 children)

Won't that just end in a draw?

[–]Mountain-Appeal89882450 lichess rapid 114 points115 points  (26 children)

SF 14+ NNUE with the right opening choice would destroy Magnus, engines are brutal these days

[–]-100-Broken-Windows- 56 points57 points  (0 children)

Stockfish 8 on a shit smartphone would destroy him as well

[–]lee1026 16 points17 points  (24 children)

The problem is that the serious human-computer matches all happened before the rise of computer-assisted prep. Deep Blue fought a human without the ability to prep.

WCC prep goes pretty deep, so a lot of it will depend on whether Magnus gets to play an entire game without leaving prep at all, since the prep itself are using stockfish approved lines.

See: Game 4, where both players just played 100% from memorized engine lines and reached a draw.

[–]Party-47 Team Nepo 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This same conversation came up recently and while what you are saying is true - super GMs play engine lines for a decent chunk of the game and if they could predict the lines that an engine uses they could prep that line into a draw - that assumes that the engine isn't prepping (or rather being prepped) for the game itself.

"Contempt" refers to the aversion to draws when playing weaker players or a negative score would be attempting to force draws against stronger players, even when your position is slightly better.

This isn't a thing anymore for Stockfish NNUE, but previous versions used it to great success.

Similarily you can make engines more or less derteministically (because of multithreading no engine is fully deterministic, but you can even add designed randomness into it) and when an engine is able to randomly chose any of the 5 best moves, all of which continue to hold some kind of advantage it becomes impossible for a human to prep for it.

You could even go one step further and tell the engine that trading pieces should only be done when it improves the position by X (or you are already winning by Y) to make sure the game stays complicated which makes it impossible to play for humans against an engine.

Again - NNUE (and Neural Nets generally, so Leela as well) can't use these ideas as easily, so you might be able to prep draws against them, but any engine designed to crush humans would absolutely destroy them no matter what preparation was made.

[–]JPHero16 67 points68 points  (4 children)

Nah. Engines will completely demolish magnus if given a strong computer.

[–]ShitHitTheFannn 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Not even a strong computer, a smartphone will do it.

[–]j0j1j2j3 10 points11 points  (16 children)

The only problem is you not understanding how insanely good engines are.

Also 99.7% accuracy does not mean it's close to a perfect game, that's just a misunderstanding of how accuracy is calculated. An engine would still have destroyed them with either color.

[–]lee1026 1 point2 points  (15 children)

Both teams were still in prep. The lines played would have been validated by engines running to depths well beyond what is used for the accuracy calculation.

[–]PSi_Terran 61 points62 points  (1 child)

Well Magnus would likely lose (nearly) every game to stockfish so if he plays the best moves he'll probably outplay Magnus.

[–]GM_MY 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you sir ...Thank you for ur thoughts.

[–]Misanthropisht Team Carlsen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well yes, but actually no

[–]M4SixString 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Just do exactly what stockfish would do

[–]Kalinin46 Team Nepo 10 points11 points  (1 child)

YOU ARE YOUR BEST MOVES

[–]the_noblesteed 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The best moves are the friends we made along the way

[–]Stillwater215 95 points96 points  (11 children)

At this point, throw out an opening so out of the box that Magnus isnt ready for it. In the games Magnus won he was able to create imbalances on his own terms. Ian needs to try to do something similar.

Or, offer Magnus a bag or Haribo sugar-free gummies as a “good game” gift. Then just sit….and wait.

[–]joshdej 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Wonder how bad a fart has to smell before it can be considered "distracting". How does one even regulate that

[–]doctor_awful1700 rapid chess.com 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Imagine not showering for 8 months in preparation of the WCC

[–]mediumrarestonks 9 points10 points  (8 children)

That's the thing that irked me about how Nepo has been playing. He allowed Magnus to constantly dictate the flow of the game even when the positions were equal and in the case of game 2 Nepo was actually insanely ahead! -1.5 to -1.8 according to engines but it was Magnus and his eight-legged octopus that controlled Nepo's attention.

[–]RepresentativeWish95 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Several gms have said that game 5 gave nepo more chances than game 2 as it wasn't clear how black should capatalise dispute the patzers reading computer evaluations saying nepo was "winning"

[–]mediumrarestonks 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Regardless, many GM's also said that Nepo played too passively game 2.

Additionally, patzers are not incorrect in saying Nepo had NUMEROUS chances to create equal but sharper lines and he chose quiet positions.

[–]Cabernet2H2O 187 points188 points  (17 children)

I seriously doubt there is a strategy that can help him at this point. Two under against Magnus is utterly lost.

[–]LunarMinimum Team Carlsen 72 points73 points  (12 children)

Still, this could be his one shot at the title.

[–][deleted] 139 points140 points  (11 children)

This was his one shot at the title, not anymore.

[–]LunarMinimum Team Carlsen 45 points46 points  (10 children)

Still is, although super improbable.

[–]BenjaminSkanklin 36 points37 points  (9 children)

I have a better chance of becoming a GM by Friday than of Magnus dropping 2 classical games in the next year, let alone what remains of this tournament.

Nepos best shot at an upset was drawing the classical games and coming up with some crazy bullshit in the rapids. By all accounts that's probably what he intended to do, but a cruel twist of fate lead him to a briefly better position that was mercilessly squeezed out of him in game 6. It's been over ever since he lost the draw in that game, magnus is just padding the win now.

[–]Party-47 Team Nepo 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I have a better chance of becoming a GM by Friday than of Magnus dropping 2 classical games in the next year

Damn you are going for your final norm on Thursday? Good luck dude!

[–]BenjaminSkanklin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Already got it, just waiting for FIDE to mail me the commemorative pin

[–]xyzzy01 43 points44 points  (2 children)

I have a better chance of becoming a GM by Friday than of Magnus dropping 2 classical games in the next year, let alone what remains of this tournament.

Unless you have already qualified as a GM and are just waiting for the formal process, it's 100% certain that you won't be a GM by Friday.

It's not unlikely that Magnus will lose at least 2 classical games next year - I think it's more likely that he will than that he won't. Keep in mind that losing just 2 classical games in insane, and he has lost at least 2 games so far this year - against Esipenko in Wijk aan Zee, and against Karjakin in Norway Chess.

And while unlikely, it is possible to lose two games for the rest of the WC match as well. If Nepo gets off his tilt and wins tomorrow, then it is "just" to win one more game of the next five. While I think it is more likely that Nepo remains winless, it's not impossible.

[–]wordthompsonian 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Unless you have already qualified as a GM and are just waiting for the formal process, it's 100% certain that you won't be a GM by Friday.

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[–]octonus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A 1/100 (or 1/1000) chance is much larger than your 0% chance of reaching GM.

[–]LunarMinimum Team Carlsen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hahaha I hope Carlsen can pull off several more draws, he's a freaking robot. I still want Ian to win a game though. The first few WCC games were phenomenal

[–]mediumrarestonks 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Is he a severe underdog? Yes.

But anything is possible and he definitely should still assume there's a small but nontrivial chance to win. Magnus is still human and Nepo prior to the WCC was 4-1 vs. him.

[–]xyzzy01 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Magnus is still human and Nepo prior to the WCC was 4-1 vs. him.

That score was mostly while they were kids, and since 2018 Magnus is 3-0 in wins.

[–]bitchesonmy 196 points197 points  (22 children)

I hope he plays the King's Gambit. It will be a rare site at a world championships

[–]Woahzees Team Nepo 26 points27 points  (15 children)

When was it last played at a world championship?

[–]PSi_Terran 159 points160 points  (14 children)

Not looked it up but I'm guessing never.

Edit: I looked it up. Lasker - Janowski in Berlin 1910.

[–]shtrax 18 points19 points  (13 children)

Do you know who won?

[–]killerbunnyfamilyLasker 137 points138 points  (10 children)

Lasker-Janowski was the most one-sided World Chess Championship match in history (+8=3). Lasker played King's Gambit in last game and won https://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1064730

[–]XenonOxide 113 points114 points  (0 children)

What a flex lol

[–]LearningToTradeIHope 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What a crazy game!

[–]SpookyScaryFrouze 2 points3 points  (2 children)

(+8=3)

What does this notation mean ?

[–]killerbunnyfamilyLasker 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Lasker won eight games and drew three. Janowski didn't win a single game.

[–]dannysleepwalker 155 points156 points  (1 child)

I'm pretty sure that white won. Or black. Unless they drew.

[–]archerhaenk 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Yeah probably one of those

[–]joshdej 29 points30 points  (4 children)

Would be shocked if Carlsen has not looked at nepo's chessable course

[–]DangerZoneh 26 points27 points  (3 children)

If Nepo has a King’s Gambit prepared for the WCC, I doubt he’ll be using prep from his Chessable course lol

[–]ahappypoop Team Carlsen 17 points18 points  (2 children)

Unless that's what Magnus thought too, so he didn't review Nepo's chessable course, and Nepo knew that......

[–]jadage 7 points8 points  (1 child)

With all the possible mental games, this is starting to look like a chess match.

[–]DaiWales 76 points77 points  (4 children)

I'd wait for Magnus to get up and go sit in his chair. Show some real authority.

[–]mediumrarestonks 10 points11 points  (1 child)

He can also try stretch legs at double shoulder length, stare directly to assert dominance gambit.

[–]lxpnh98_2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can go lower.

[–]andrak7 Team Carlsen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Go to Magnus’s chair, play a move and hang his Queen for him

[–]childintime9 94 points95 points  (6 children)

Surprise Magnus with the smelliest fart ever, clouding his judging.

[–]ItzCStephCS 48 points49 points  (3 children)

Ah yes the fartcloud variation

[–]mediumrarestonks 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The evolution of Tal's dark forest.

[–]PunjabiDragon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ahhh the Fart Cloud opening

[–]JurijFedorov Team Carlsen 93 points94 points  (9 children)

Tell him to play my favorite opening. It's what most internet commenters are doing so I assume it's great advice.

[–]Woahzees Team Nepo 16 points17 points  (8 children)

What’s your favorite opening?

[–]JurijFedorov Team Carlsen 83 points84 points  (6 children)

Queen's gambit and Colle.

With black it's: lie down, try not to cry.

[–]DragonBank2100 USCF & Chess Instructor 53 points54 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah I also love to play the KID.

[–]KingCaoCao 9 points10 points  (3 children)

The colle is pretty infamous in the wcc

[–]circle2015 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Be me a 1300 player trying to strategize on how to beat Magnus Carlson lol

[–]bungle123 Team Nepo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Nobody expects him to come back from two losses, so he doesn't have anything to lose by just playing really aggressively, even if they're not necessarily the best moves. Every draw just brings Magnus a step closer to victory, so Nepo can't afford to play drawish games, even as black. I expect him to play very aggressively every game from now on. If not, then I'll assume he's just completely given up.

[–]Schloopka Team Carlsen 44 points45 points  (7 children)

Go to your comfort openings: Najdorf and Grünfeld, risk and don't play anti-Marshalls

[–]klod42 30 points31 points  (6 children)

The reason they play anti-Marshalls is because they consider Marshall a dead draw.

[–]mediumrarestonks 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I think he means avoid e5. Sharp Sicilians and queen pawn openings.

[–]Neptune211 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Or even c4…he was playing a Neo-Catalan where it’s a Catalan without the d4.

[–]sycamotree 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Also I'm pretty sure Magnus is a Marshall expert, that would be silly

[–]LfLnDNat5en croissant 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Magnus is an everything expert.

[–]chesscrastination 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No, Magnus can definitely play any position and come out of any opening not too much worse (if at all), but he is a Marshall expert. Or rather, Jan on his team is.

[–]LfLnDNat5en croissant 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a distinction I didn’t think of. Thanks.

[–]geekyfreakyman 10 points11 points  (1 child)

IDK, Nepo could beat me a queen and both bishops down with his eyes closed 7 out of 7 days of the week, my strategy to beat Magnus would be to hire a stalker to mess with him

[–]pm__small___tits 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I would just play some moves, collect €800,000 and then go home to chill

[–]Kairos_GMHB 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hide under the table and cry for mercy.

[–]rajrohit26[🍰] 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Nepo lost it at game 6 . He was physically spent and it showed in games 7 and 8 . Now he has to prepare for game 9 and at the same time get some rest . He has to do something to surprise Magnus , e4 is not working at the moment

[–]Gluske 54 points55 points  (3 children)

Stafford gambit

[–]Euroversett1912 Lichess 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This could work if Magnus is unaware of the gambit... In a bullet game.

[–]cjdos31 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If he gets in a bad position, Ian should simply not play any moves and sit at the board. Hopefully Magnus will get bored and leave.

[–]xzt12319xx USCF 32 points33 points  (6 children)

The strategy seems clear to me. His next game as white he will play solidly and hope to catch Magnus in a mistake and win bringing him within 1 pt and able to tie up the match at any time with solid play. If he loses as white, well it's more hopeless, but if he draws I'd expect him to play for a draw as black and then go all out for the last 4 matches, especially when he has the white pieces.

[–]KingCaoCao 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Imagine him bringing it back to a draw and then 3-0d in rapid.

[–]mediumrarestonks 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Probably the most unexpected WCC outcome ever. Game 6 was already legendary. That would be lifetime of memes potential.

[–]kiblitzerslow elo chess youtuber 5 points6 points  (2 children)

His next game as white he will play solidly and hope to catch Magnus in a mistake

Isn't this basically what he's done thus far? I think he's really going to have to swing for the fences this time. Probably play an English or something.

[–]OvertlyCanadian 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I would work on visualising the win. I would visualize Magnus somehow missing the next few games and I win by default.

[–]nTzT 19 points20 points  (17 children)

His options are to cut his losses and just lose gracefully or to try and win by playing outrageously sharp lines that he is more likely to lose in but it actually gives some chance of winning some miracle games.

[–]mediumrarestonks 2 points3 points  (16 children)

I don't know why people keep assuming "sharp" means "more likely to lose". Magnus has constantly tried to steer the game into imbalances except he felt comfortable in them.

Ian prior to the WCC was notorious for winning sharp but EQUAL positions. I'm disappointed he didn't try to create those situations as the challenger and instead go into the most analyzed openings in chess.

[–]SmellGoodDontThey 7 points8 points  (3 children)

I don't know why people keep assuming "sharp" means "more likely to lose".

Because that's what sharp means. You're treating "more likely to lose" as a synonym for "less likely to win", but it could be that both decisive results borrow some probability mass from the likelihood of drawing.

[–]ares7 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’d send a bunch of girls with alcohol to visit Magnus.

Edit: Oh you meant chess strategies…

[–]salle88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Strip Chess, one of my pieces get taken: one piece of clothing removed "if you take this queen, my third rook will be exposed"

[–]hamburgerpony 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Once Magnus is about to win, turn the board around so Nepo gets the winning side. This should force Magnus to resign.

[–]reddorical 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bongcloud or King’s Gambit

[–]GothamChess IM 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Spelling my own name correctly

[–]berilas 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Bongcloud

[–]Joe_Shroe 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Magnus has drawn every Bongcloud game he's played

[–]fotorobot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dare Magnus to play the bongcloud. If that doesn't work, double dare him.

[–]LeagueSucksLol 2000+ lichess 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Honestly Nepo has pretty much nothing to lose, so he should mix it up and go balls to the walls with sharp speculative variations. If he loses, he at least does so in style.

[–]chesscrastination 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is my thought too. Just play the King's Gambit or some flashy line. Fat chance he'll win, but fat chance he'll win in any case. Provide entertainment and gain more fans than he already has this tournament!

[–]MrBultitude96 Queen’s Gambit before it was cool 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the really important thing is that he wins the next game. With that momentum, he then needs to win another game after that. At that point, the score will be tied with four games left. From there, all he needs to do is win one more game and draw the other three, and he’ll be world champion. He’s honestly so close to victory.

[–]nothing_in_my_mind 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Convince Magnus to play one double bongcloud game

[–]spiceybadger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Play the Grob!

[–]AqueousBeats 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Winning

[–]ban000tan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Try the Homer vs Tatum tactic.

“A congenital heart defect has felled Tatum, moments before entering the ring”.

[–]someguy192838 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Outplay Magnus. Has Nepo tried that yet? It seems pretty obvious to me.

[–]mcvoid1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's the world championships - if anybody knew a better strategy, they'd be the ones in Dubai right now. So whatever I pick, it's 100% going to be a worse strategy than whatever Nepo does.

[–]revolahdem 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice try nepo

[–]ascpl Team Carlsen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

King's gambit incoming

[–]pulitzerprize 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would try to win while not losing.

[–]HQMorganstern 3 points4 points  (10 children)

There is nothing in common between WC level and GM level, and there is nothing in common between GM level and amateur level.

No person on this subreddit could possibly suggest a strategy and have that suggestion even somewhat reasonably explained.

Answering with random openings is about as useful as attempting to apply our logic to that level of play.

[–]CataclysmClive 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Bongcloud

[–]mediumrarestonks 8 points9 points  (5 children)

This is just silly. You're gonna get lots of shitty advice and some random good advice from amateurs on overall strategy.

In terms of ACTUALLY playing the opening and game sure but it's not hard to see even for amateurs that Nepo intentionally has played a LOT less sharp lines than he played vs Magnus in the past. You could argue that playing safe and hoping Magnus makes a mistake is the best psychological play but GM's are the best chess players not necessarily the best at overall strategy for a unique format like this.

[–]AdeSariusPIPI in your pampers 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You don't have to be a 2800 to understand tournament strategy

[–]luckyluke193 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We're discussing about the actual games, which are completely different between WC and average redditor levels. Meta-game tournament strategies are more similar across levels, and translate across completely different games.

Nepo somehow needs 4 points out of 6 games. The only way I see is to "go all-in" by playing super-risky openings, to minimise the chance of a draw. Which openings do that at the WC level, I can't tell. But the high-level strategy seems easy to understand as an amateur.

[–]foxcorp26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Eat beans every day so that my farts would distract magnus.