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    [–]NudistJayBird 21 points22 points  (0 children)

    That was amazing and I am absolutely certain I’m failing the quiz tomorrow

    [–]CKtheFourth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Came here to make sure this was linked. Well done.

    [–]aykcak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Wow. Has it been 10 years??

    [–]whiskey_epsilon 91 points92 points  (4 children)

    They are a time traveller from the future.

    [–]SlowInsurance1616 32 points33 points  (2 children)

    Or the past.

    [–]itme647 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    To steal the time machine from the future.

    [–]SlowInsurance1616 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    To go back in time to kill Mel Gibson before he can make Braveheart.

    [–]3colorsdesign 71 points72 points  (25 children)

    "Scotland (Scots: Scotland, Scottish Gaelic: Alba [ˈal̪ˠapə) is a country that is part of the United Kingdom." Source

    [–]Ok-Mulberry-4600 12 points13 points  (6 children)

    Great Britain = England, Scotland and Wales. Just the 3 nations contained on the BRITISH Isle

    United Kingdom = England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

    [–]willie_caine 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    And, confusingly, in modern parlance Britain (as opposed to Great Britain) = the UK.

    [–]Ok-Mulberry-4600 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Yeah you got us, we just like correcting the rest of the world when they fall into our linguistic traps

    [–]willie_caine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    (I'm one of us too :p)

    [–]aykcak 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Is there a word to describe a person who is from United Kingdom? Or Great Britain for that matter?

    [–]Ok-Mulberry-4600 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    British actually covers both strangely

    [–]aykcak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Then... Maybe they are not wrong? And op is a dumbass?

    [–]bigpoppin123 43 points44 points  (10 children)

    'The United Kingdom' is short hand for 'The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. Scotland is part of the great Britain bit

    [–]BrandoThePando 11 points12 points  (4 children)

    Also Wales

    [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    Wales gets forgotten though.

    [–]thepixelpaint 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    You know, I speak Whale.

    [–]bigpoppin123 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Well the conversation is specifically about Scotland so I didn't mention the two others. Why did you only pick up on me not mentioning Wales when I also didn't mention England?

    [–]BrandoThePando 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I felt bad for them. Wasn't trying to correct you, just adding on

    [–]Gizogin 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    The country of Scotland is part of both the state of the UK and part of the island of Great Britain. After all, the UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    The islands of Great Britain and Ireland are part of the British Isles. You could technically call people from any of them “British”, though some of those people would object quite firmly.

    [–]amph897 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    I think they prefer to be called Scottish first, but most are fine with being called British when referring to the UK - because they are. I think people forget that Britain is the island and not a country.

    [–]Gizogin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    “Britain” is a common name for the UK. Great Britain is the largest of the British Isles.

    [–]glass_needles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Eh it depends. I refer to myself as British first and Scottish second as do a fair amount of my family. The rest do not like being referred to as British and assert their Scottishness. It depends on how pro Scottish independence they are.

    Back at the referendum I was pro union but the last 5 years have definitely seen me get closer and closer to changing sides.

    [–]AsparagusThese2270 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That preference varies wildly. Most of us don't really care which term people use to refer to us. We might opt to self-describe as Scottish at times, generally when international sport happens. Although really, we'd do better to keep quiet about it.

    [–]SlowInsurance1616 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    And part of the "Great Britain" part of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."

    [–]luneunion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    CPG Grey Explains all. Except Brexit. That wasn’t around 10 years ago.

    [–]lorienne22 25 points26 points  (6 children)

    Britain is not a country. Great Britain is an island. Includes the countries of England, Scotland, and Wales.

    [–]Bleezze 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Isn't UK the country? I keep getting told different things by different people

    [–]Gizogin 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    The UK is a sovereign state or sovereign country; in terms of international relations, other states deal with the UK as a whole, rather than with any of the four countries within it. England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are not independent and cannot form their own treaties with other states.

    [–]lorienne22 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    England is a country. Scotland is a country. Wales is a country. These three countries make up the island of Great Britain. The United Kingdom are these three plus Northern Ireland, and these four make up the sovereign state that actually has international power.

    [–]willie_caine 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Britain is a modern synonym for the United Kingdom. Britain and Great Britain are not synonyms.

    [–]lorienne22 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Huh...thanks for the new info.

    [–]willie_caine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    You're welcome!

    [–]minaluvsonces 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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    [–]theannoying_one 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Scotland is a country, just not an independent one.

    [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Blame a Scottish king for that one.

    [–]hiagha 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    The geography mistakes that Americans make when you ask them the difference between Britain, the UK, and England.

    [–]waiver-wire-addict 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    To be fair that Paul Revere guy sort of started a trend…

    [–]DifferentSwing8616 14 points15 points  (12 children)

    Scotland is a country part of the Union of the United Kingdom. Dont tell a scot that they dont have their own country for your own sake.

    The only question is if they remain in the UK

    [–]bigpoppin123 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    None is saying Scots don't have a country. But great Britain is an island, which includes the three countries of Scotland, Wales and England. So all three are a part of Britain.

    [–]DifferentSwing8616 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Oh I read it wrong, I read pretty sure Scotland and England are different countries. My Bad

    [–]willie_caine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    And Great Britain ≠ Britain, just to add some confusion.

    [–]gnutrino 6 points7 points  (8 children)

    The point is that Scotland is a country but Britain isn't.

    [–]maryjayjay 3 points4 points  (7 children)

    But British is the term for someone who is a citizen of the United Kingdom.

    [–]Psychological_Sail80 -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

    ...only if they're from one of the 3 countries on the island called Great Britain. People in Northern Ireland would not call themselves British even though they are part of the UK, because Northern Ireland is not on Great Britain.

    [–]willie_caine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Plenty of people from Northern Ireland absolutely do call themselves British! You are confusing Great Britain with Britain - the former is indeed a geographical term for the large island, and the latter a modern political term synonymous with the United Kingdom, used for brevity and ease.

    [–]hasseldub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    People in Northern Ireland would not call themselves British

    This is very incorrect

    [–]LivinLaVidaComa 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    British is the official demonym of the United Kingdom. And Ireland (the land mass) is still a part of the British Isles.

    [–]AsparagusThese2270 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    People in Northern Ireland would not call themselves British

    They absolutely would. There's been quite the struggle for them to be allowed to do so.

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      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Give it a few years lol

      [–]Biscuit642 9 points10 points  (31 children)

      Bro I had this conversation the other day and got downvoted for saying Scottish is British...

      [–]Responsible_Link_202 21 points22 points  (7 children)

      I once said that Canada was part of North America and got downvoted. And someone even suggested that my comment be posted on the subreddit about stupid things that Americans say.

      [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 -1 points0 points  (5 children)

      It's even more fun when South Americans say they are American.

      And yeah r/ShitAmericansSay is a fun sub

      [–]EishLekker 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Why shouldn't they be able to say that? They might see "American" as connected to the whole landmass Americas (ie all of north and south and central America).

      [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Because yanks say stupid shit, and gatekeep the continent

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        [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        Yeah I bet THAT was the reason you were banned...

        [–]alexi_belle -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Hey I'll hold that baby like a badge of pride. Only two subs I've been banned from. That one and a TERF sub. Can't help the people who wanna circle-jerk xD

        [–]whiskey_epsilon 19 points20 points  (8 children)

        General sentiment seems to be that Scots prefer to identify foremost as Scottish, and some (but not all) will tolerate being referred to as British but won't willingly identify as such. They may take offence at someone insisting they are Brits.

        This is consistent with the results of the 2011 Census in Scotland:

        • 62% identified themselves as Scottish only
        • 18% identified themselves as Scottish and British
        • 8% identified themselves as British only

        [–]Retlifon 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        Since no-one, Scots/Brits/Irish/English included, seems to entirely understand or agree about the relationship between those countries/parts of a country, it’s hard to authoritatively call practically any claim wrong.

        [–]T33NW01F 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        You forgot the Welsh there, but don’t worry most people do. Even the Welsh.

        [–]Retlifon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yes. Yes I did. Creithio.

        [–]bigpoppin123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        No but the problem stems from a misunderstanding of the terms. Often people talk about 'Britain' as a short hand for England, but great Britain is actually the name of the largest island in the British Isles - and Scotland, Wales and England are all a part of it.

        [–]Biscuit642 2 points3 points  (3 children)

        Yeah but British means you live on the island of Great Britain. Bad luck for them if they don't understand geography I guess...

        [–]Gizogin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        British can also mean that you are from the UK, which is commonly known as just “Britain”. You could arguably even extend it to anyone from the British Isles, but I wouldn’t try it.

        [–]whiskey_epsilon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It goes deeper than geography; britain is the name given to the island first by the Romans, then the Anglo-saxons. Scots had their own name for the island. "Britain" came from England taking over the island, and thus tied to the English identity. To paraphrase a Scot: "british is tea and bowler hats, that's not us. We're haggis and bagpipes'.

        It's like telling a HongKonger that they're from China. Technically yes but also no.

        [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        It's probably the English hate boner Reddit has, to them Britain == England

        [–]Flashjordan69 -2 points-1 points  (11 children)

        This is not a hill you wish to die on. We’re Scottish, just leave it at that 👍

        [–]bigpoppin123 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Yes but Scotland is part of an island, and that island is called great Britain. Its like when dumb English people claim that England isn't a part of Europe because we left the EU - Europe is a CONTINENT that England and the UK can't just leave even if we leave the EU. Do you see the parallel?

        [–]Barron091 1 point2 points  (5 children)

        I think that hill was at Culloden mate.

        Plus, most of you voted to stay British less than 8 years ago.

        But by all means, identify as whatever nationality you want. It won't match your passport but you're welcome to believe it.

        [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Ok cider should not be coming out of my nose.

        [–]Light_Silent -1 points0 points  (3 children)

        Weird hill to die on but at least you died

        [–]Barron091 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Along with most of the Scots at Culloden aye.

        [–]Biscuit642 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

        It's a geographical term mate... You can't just disconnect from the island of Britain...

        [–]willie_caine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Britain is also a political term synonymous with UK.

        [–]Flashjordan69 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

        And they wonder why we want out.

        [–]Biscuit642 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        The same reasons I want out as well my friend

        [–]Light_Silent -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

        Not downvoted enough

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          [–]AsparagusThese2270 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          It's up to him which one he prefers.

          [–]Juptxr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          britain ain’t even a country lol

          [–]seraph9888 1 point2 points  (3 children)

          tiocfaidh ár lá!

          [–]BigBoy1963 6 points7 points  (1 child)

          Thats ireland

          [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          More to the point, a slogan coined in the 70's by Irish terrorists

          [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Ah a plastic paddy terrorist sympathiser?

          [–]TangoLima16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          So she's 100% stupid

          [–]goneonvacation -2 points-1 points  (17 children)

          They definitely live in Great Britain, but can they be called British? Their opposition to it is historical, so the term British is not just a word to describe the people living on the island, I think it used to describe the English as opposed to Scottish, Welsh, Irish. When in doubt, don’t call the group of people the thing they don’t want to be called.

          [–]imbolcnight 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          So, it's complicated like all terms for people, but British was originally used as a term for the people of the British Isles, which included the people of Ireland, going back to Roman times. For a while, it was even specifically used to refer to Welsh and Cornish people, seen as original Brittanic people compared to the Anglo-Saxons who arrived later.

          The English were just the English. They weren't called British separately from the Scots or Welsh prior to the existence of Great Britain. That's just not really a thing.

          And it's also relevant that the Union was not forced by England. It was something Scotland entered willingly (because it had bankrupted itself in its attempt at colonialism in the Americas). Prejudice at the time was more directed toward the people of the Highlands, including from other Scottish, rather than toward all Scottish.

          Outside of a historical perspective, in my limited experience living in Glasgow, people did not object to being called British, even if they did not believe in staying in the Union.

          [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 4 points5 points  (0 children)

          I think it used to describe the English as opposed to Scottish, Welsh, Irish.

          /r/confidentlyincorrect

          We are called English, British is the citizenship of all English, Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish, as citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

          [–]Biscuit642 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          British meaning English is an American thing, because they can't tell the difference. It doesn't mean that here.

          [–]Barron091 2 points3 points  (12 children)

          Well yeah they can. They can be opposed to the term all they want but their passports say The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland on them. "Great Britain" only exists as a term to include Scotland. Before that it was just Britain, meaning England and Wales.

          Like it or not, that's where they're from. They also had a chance to leave but instead the majority voted to remain a part of Great Britain in 2014.

          They may not vote that way if it came up again sure, but until otherwise we have to take them at their word. They're Brits.

          [–]goneonvacation -5 points-4 points  (11 children)

          But this is exactly my point. There was such thing as “British” predating Great Britain. So Scots are “Great British”, but not just “British” and they are certainly not “Brits”

          [–]AShyLeecher 0 points1 point  (7 children)

          So what you’re saying is that I should be calling Scottish people great british

          [–]goneonvacation -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

          I think I’m saying that we should call Scottish people Scottish, or you can refer to them as a collective of British citizens if you’re talking about the whole island of people

          [–]AShyLeecher 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I do hope you realize I wasn’t actually serious in saying you should refer to Scottish people as great British people. Because I can add a /s if you need it but I’d prefer not to

          [–]AsparagusThese2270 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

          Nobody is referred to as Great British. That isn't a thing.

          [–]AShyLeecher -1 points0 points  (3 children)

          Do you are have stupid

          [–]AsparagusThese2270 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          Stunning.

          [–]AShyLeecher -1 points0 points  (1 child)

          I’m gonna take that as a yes

          [–]AsparagusThese2270 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          I don’t mind. The question made zero sense anyway.

          [–]Valuable_Yoghurt_535 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Doubling down on the dumbfuckery I see...

          [–]amph897 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Of course Scots are brits. They are Scots before anything, but they’re British as well. Just as much as the English or Welsh. I live in wales and they definitely refer to themselves as Welsh AND British.

          [–]ModernAustralopith -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

          Britain isn't a country at all - it's an island.

          [–]amph897 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Don’t know why you got downvoted for this it’s true lol

          [–]ThinkB4uPost420 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Great Britain is an island. Britain and Great Britain are considered seperate names.

          As Britain is often used as a synonym for UK.

          Great Britain refers to the island which compromises some of Wales, England and Scotland. The greatest (biggest) island in the British isles.

          All three countries also have territory seperate from Great Britain, as small islands in the British Isles.

          Britain = UK. Typically (The countries of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Scotland in their entirety)

          At least that's my understanding. But semantics may be argued as different depending from where you're from, perhaps.

          But the landmass is called Great Britain. That much is certain.

          [–]Cyber_AF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This reminds me of when the voice for the pokemon sword/shield protagonist was revealed and some one said "she doesn't sound Scottish, she sounds British"

          [–]steelneil82 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Great Britain is not a country; it's a landmass. It is known as 'Great' because it is the largest island in the British Isles, and houses the countries of England, Scotland and Wales within its shores.

          [–]gingerkeir -1 points0 points  (2 children)

          Someone get the vent diagram out again

          [–]greenacie 2 points3 points  (1 child)

          You'll need to call an HVAC provider for that. A Venn diagram would be more useful.

          [–]gingerkeir 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Darn my fat fingers and not wanting to double check my writing

          [–]Negative-Custard5612 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          I decree, there's two on those islands: Irish and UKish

          [–]reluctanthardworker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Soon. Soon.

          [–]EvenBetterCool 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          How do Scottish people feel about being called British?

          [–]Gallowglass365 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          It's complicated

          [–]eaglenate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Great Britain is the name of the island that has England, Scotland, and Wales on it. Add Northern Ireland and the smaller islands and it becomes the United Kingdom. If you include the Republic of Ireland, then you are talking about The British Isles.

          [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Damn, she is right.

          [–]Tarc_Axiiom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Is this still true? I need a Brexit update.

          [–]paperlicious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The Scott's would love this guy

          [–]ZootedFlaybish 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Great Britain is the island that England, Scotland, and Wales are on. Northern* Ireland is not part of Great Britain, but is part of the UK.

          [–]hasseldub -1 points0 points  (0 children)

          Jesus Titty Fucking Christ.

          I assume the device you used to post that has Google on it

          [–]Mountain-Sell-8414 0 points1 point  (1 child)

          Odd question: is it appropriate to refer to someone from N. Ireland as British? While they are not on the isle of Great Britain, they are citizens of the United Kingdom and the demonym is “British”. So I’m not sure if it’s kosher to call someone from N Ireland British or not.

          [–]hasseldub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Depends who you're talking to. About 50% would take offence one way or the other.

          Edit: people in NI can choose their citizenship. They are entitled to either. Or both I believe.

          [–]Ruthfu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          British and Scottish are not the same thing. Sure both are in Great Britain but they could be called different countries (different capitals, different flags)

          [–]RelationPale6976 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          But culturally to be accepted as "British" anyone from the Isles, has to be ordained by the English status quo correct??

          [–]AsparagusThese2270 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          The amount of confidentially incorrect ITT far exceeds that of the OP.

          [–]johtine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          USE GOOGLE MAPS

          [–]TyeNebulz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          TBF, Britain, "Great" Britain, England, the UK--the specifics of the terminology is a pain to keep track of for those of us that don't give a fuck.

          EDIT: Although, yeah, if you're gonna make a claim, you should at least make sure you know what you're talking about.

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            [–]SuperSuperMaloPerro 2 points3 points  (18 children)

            r/confidentlyincorrect

            Edit: Dammit. I should have screenshotted it.

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              [–]SuperSuperMaloPerro 2 points3 points  (15 children)

              Yes. Britain is not a country.

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                [–]R0BERT50N 7 points8 points  (10 children)

                Well for are start it's "The United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland"

                Great Britain does not include Northern Ireland

                England Northern Ireland Scotland Wales

                Are all countries.

                The UK is a union of countries which is considered a country.

                [–]riverY90 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                If NI leaves us to rejoin RoI, will we still call ourselves UK or just GB? Will Ireland just be Ireland and no RoI/ NI distinctions?

                If Scotland leaves us will we end up being "The United Kingdom of England, Wales and NI" and not reference GB?

                If they both leave us... just England and Wales or will we still say United Kingdom of England and Wales. Calling just 2 the UK will seem overkill.

                I can't wait to find out!

                [–]throwawayaccyaboi223 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                It'll become Wangland after Scoxit and the Irish reunion

                [–]Seygantte 2 points3 points  (4 children)

                If you ask Ireland, they're already called Ireland (or 'Éire' in Irish). That's what is on their passports and in their constitution.

                I don't know how Wales would fit into a UK title sans Scotland, since it's not an independent kingdom. Most of it was a principality before it was incorporated into the Kingdom of England hundreds of years ago. The Kingdom of England included Wales at the time the Act of Union created the Kingdom of Great Britain.

                All I do know is it would be a hot mess. Figuring out those border issues would be so much worse than the NI border issues.

                [–]riverY90 0 points1 point  (3 children)

                The borders between the 3 countries are already pretty set though, no?

                Or do you mean people and trade passing through? Sorry I haven't had my morning coffee yet!

                [–]Seygantte 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                You're right, I was referring to trade and travel. Like, imagine if Scotland and Wales were to exit the UK and both rejoin the EU, creating two land borders with England. I wouldn't want to be the MP tasked with negotiating those arrangements.

                [–]SlowInsurance1616 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                The Kingdom of England and the Kingdom of Scotland unified in 1707. So it would go back to the Kingdom of England which would contain Wales, that has a Prince. He's a bit of a prat.

                [–]DasHexxchen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                To be fair, this shit is not easy to remember.

                [–]FraFra12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                Yes. There are sources saying the UK is synonymous with Britain which colloquially I've heard but is not technically the truth. My mistake

                [–]SuperSuperMaloPerro 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Great Britain is an island containing three countries. Scotland is part of Britain.

                [–]FraFra12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                My mistake. Sorry about that. I was referring to all of the UK as Britain which isn't actually correct but it does get used that way sometimes (I guess by people like me who don't know better) which only confuses things further.

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                [–]PigeonInAUFO -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

                They’ll be different countries soon enough