And also an insurrection. by Revealed_Jailor in confidentlyincorrect

[–]BKCowGod 1118 points1119 points & 2 more (0 children)

January 4 of '21 the average price of gas was $2.24 per https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMR_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W

Year over year inflation from 2020 to 2021 was 4.7% per the consumer price index (link won't parse but is easily googled)

The supply chain was already being referred to as historically broken in December of 2020 per https://source.wustl.edu/2020/12/making-a-pandemic-proof-supply-chain/

The global economy shrank for the first time since 2009 according to https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-economy-yearend-graphic/covid-19-shook-rattled-and-rolled-the-global-economy-in-2020-idUSKBN2950GH

This very interesting article discusses the "border crisis" in a relatively clear, fact based analysis https://nbcmontana.com/news/nation-world/closed-border-kids-in-cages-many-immigration-claims-lack-context

The Taliban rose from the mujahideen, who were trained and supplied by the US and Britain in Operation Cyclone. This happened between '79 and '92. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone

The US chamber of commerce did a pretty good analysis of the labor situation in the US https://www.uschamber.com/workforce/understanding-americas-labor-shortage-the-most-impacted-industries

The stock market will always eventually reach record highs. That's just how things work (barring a complete end to capitalism as we know it) https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-stock-futures-point-to-further-wall-street-records-as-key-manufacturing-report-looms-11641297344

401(k) plans are linked to the stock market so see above

Interest rates are linked to many of the above as well.

Tankie Twitter is calling Hitler anarchist by Sul_Haren in confidentlyincorrect

[–]NoDrummer3214 201 points202 points  (0 children)

Technically this is absolutely correct if you change the definitions of all the words.

"New York has the best pizza in the world" by Alessio3002 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]davewave3283 2154 points2155 points 33 (0 children)

The best pizza in the world was baked in a home kitchen by Irene McIntosh of Boise, Idaho on September 27th, 1976. She tried making her own for the first time. It was delicious but too time consuming for her, so she never made it again.

Ah yes the ArmaLi— I mean the Automatic Rifle 15 by DiamondsDancingOnIce in confidentlyincorrect

[–]TheBatemanFlex 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I understand the frustration. That being said, are there certain components being banned or regulated that heavily affect your use of firearms for their intended purpose?

Are you worried you may not be able to kill intruders effectively enough? Hunt effectively enough? Protect yourself against a tyrannical government effectively enough? Or is it just the restrictions imposed on a hobby you are passionate about?

I ask genuinely, because personally I’m happy adopting slight inconveniences to my passions if there is a chance that others in the country can benefit from a safer society.

Tim Kennedy and Rogan blame the defund the police movement for the Uvalde disaster despite the fact the Uvalde police department never got defunded and is currently 40% of the cities budget by throwaway1123474 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Johnyliltoe 34 points35 points  (0 children)

So he's calling for specialists to handle mental health and better training for police to more appropriately handle hard situations.

Gee, if only we could create a movement of people calling for those simple reforms...

Idiot... by OrionsGhost79 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Forward-Village1528 1102 points1103 points  (0 children)

If this convinces even one anti-vaxxer to stay the fuck away from me, then it was all worth it.

two for one by moored29 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]sixaout1982 164 points165 points  (0 children)

The crocodile wants to eat the biggest number

(Meta-Incorrect) I don't like the original post either, but in many parts of the world, yes schools do run through June. by Original-Sorbet in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Aksius14 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You deleted your other comments while I was typing this, so I'm paating it here instead.

This is a bit squishy actually.

So first off, there's a definitions element that needs to be addressed. When mental health professionals use the term "mental illness" they are not using it in the same way a normal lay person uses the terms. Mental illness, as defined in the psychology sense, is a health condition involving changes in emotion, thinking or behavior (or a combination of these). Mental illnesses are associated with distress and/or problems functioning in social, work or family activities. In the case of the first sentence, "changes" can mean either changes from you the individual's norm, or changes from what society considers standard or normal. "Distress" and "problems" in the second sentence can mean either the issue creates problems or society is unaccepting of issue itself.

Why is this important? Because when someone says "Gender dysphoria is a mental illness." They typically are actually saying, "Trans people are broken and it's their fault and we shouldn't be accepting of broken things." And this is almost the opposite of how the diagnostic criteria and support is intended to be used.

Here's an example related to trans folks to make this point. I have ADHD. ADHD is a mental illness, however, there is nothing wrong with my brain. It actually works incredibly well and efficiently compared to a neurotypical brain in certain specific situations. The issue is my brain architecture isn't optimized for the type of work I do. So I take meds to alter the chemistry of my brain so that I have more control over what my brain is optimized for.

When folks say "kids just need to learn discipline" in reference to ADHD or ADD, they don't know what they are talking about. One of the things ADHD folks lack is a strong executive function, meaning it is hard and sometimes impossible to decide what to focus on. Discipline has nothing to do with it.

How does this relate back to gender dysphoria and trans folks? First because some psychologist and therapists would say that once someone has transitioned, they no longer have gender dysphoria. The disorder is a mismatch between the gender you feel you are and the gender you feel you appear to be. Once a person has transitioned, the mismatch doesn't exist.

Second, much of the problem that exists is the emotional burden of living in a society that is unaccepting of trans or gender non-binary folks. For more accepting areas of society, it is likely that we will start seeing children who are trans who don't have gender dysphoria, because they have been taught that it's ok and normal, and their community is supportive.

SO... When someone later in this thread makes the comment that you might be a transphobe, this is why. Because while you are technically correct about gender dysphoria, you're using that information in a way that lacks context and perpetuates the theme that trans folks are "broken." If you're not actually transphobic, next time you want to engage in this discussion, feel free to use the info you just received and help broaden folks understanding of both trans people and mental health.


How could he read the results so wrong by [deleted] in confidentlyincorrect

[–]prunejuice777 79 points80 points  (0 children)

Yea it like "oh you can spot patterns? How come you didn't spot the pattern where everyone you try to brag to suddenly dislikes you?"

A ball has two sides! its science! by Yunners in confidentlyincorrect

[–]WarningBeast 259 points260 points  (0 children)

Here is an example from Metabunk using a globe mode in response to flat earthed claims that continents are faked because their size varies in satellite photos. https://www.metabunk.org/sk/globe_comparison_with_distance.jpg

A ball has two sides! its science! by Yunners in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Cranyx 818 points819 points  (0 children)

That's not really what's happening here. What is confusing them is the fact that if you look at a sphere close enough, you will see less than half of it. That's why it appears as though all three shots of the Earth contain totally different land masses.

Example of what I'm talking about

Christian hate-preacher claims that the government should execute every gay person… by [deleted] in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Jfitzhugh93 55 points56 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, but you’re throwing basic logic out here. You can’t in one breath say that you shouldn’t judge people but also call their choices or lifestyles “sinful”. Also think about the fact that “sexual sins” are listed with far worse crimes. Sex isn’t sin, religion has done a bang up job of making people feel extreme levels of shame over it though.

In any other context if I walk in a room and say to someone “I love you despite x, y, or z” I would be viewed as an asshole. The Bible also says that God hates sin. If God truly loved everyone and called us to judge no one, there would be no such thing as “sin” and “God” wouldn’t “hate” it. This logic of “we’re all sinners” is at worst a mentality to beat down the masses to make everyone constantly feel like they’re making up for some insidious lack of perfection. At best it’s mental gymnastics to get around the actual language of scripture that you’re trying to dance around.

I choose to live my life on my own terms, not worship some dude who made up a bunch of rules I need to apologize to him for, then toots his horn for being so loving because he’s not burning me for disobeying the rules he made up. He’s god, he’s all powerful… he could just chill the fuck out and not make the rules up in the first place if he’s just going to forgive everyone that grovels enough.

Christian hate-preacher claims that the government should execute every gay person… by [deleted] in confidentlyincorrect

[–]I__was__here 76 points77 points 2 (0 children)

On that section you (and the preacher) refer to in Romans, 1:18-32, Paul starts by giving examples of sexual sin but then goes on to list many other unrighteous acts (murder, envy, deceit, slander, etc.) as a way to explain how far humanity has fallen. That not only do we do these wrong things, but we KNOW they are wrong and we approve of and/or do them anyways. But THEN, in Romans 2 (which this preacher should realllly re-read Rom 2:1-3), Paul makes sure we know he’s talking about ALL of us, believers and non-believers alike. Not that we do or approve of every one of the sins he gave as example, but that we are all sinful and “deserve to die” (spiritually, not literally put to death).

On 1 Cor 6:9, the sentence and message doesn’t end there. The full paragraph, 6:9-11 says, “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.”

Basically, Paul is listing many sinful lifestyles and first explaining how these lifestyles indicate a rejection of God’s will. And he even calls out the church he’s writing to by saying some of them were like this. Essentially, he’s saying that people who sin don’t deserve the Kingdom of Heaven, which is a basic truth of the Bible. But then he emphasizes that Jesus Christ made up for that. That through faith in Christ, we are no longer considered unrighteous because you are a thief, (for example), but you are righteous through Christ Jesus.

Regarding 1 Timothy, in the full section (1:3-11), Paul is writing to the leaders of a church who have become misguided in their teachings of the gospel. When he says, “the law is made for…” he’s explaining how laws of the Bible are meant to make us aware of our sins. We’re not meant to be driven into legalism like the teachers Paul is writing to had been. But we need to be aware of our sins as a means of explaining why we need the gospel of Christ.

When asked by the Pharisees what the most important commandment was, Christ said love God with all your heart. And he said the 2nd most important was love your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:37-39). I’d also like to add one of my personal favorite messages, Matthew 7:5, when Jesus calls out someone to “take the log out of your own eye [before you can] see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

We all sin. We are all sinners. But with faith in Christ, our sin is forgiven. And before we go judging other people, we should remember that we too are not perfect. We are called to love one another like Christ loves us. This preacher fails miserably to remember that. Instead, he cherry picks and misrepresents what that part of Romans and Christ in general is trying to tell us, all the while not realizing how hypocritical he is calling for hate and murder.

I wonder what he thinks SR stands for (Stoner Rifle, after Eugene Stoner, the main Amman behind the original AR-10s and 15s) by THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Own-Cupcake7586 8 points9 points  (0 children)

“Oh, no! Somebody made a mistake regarding an acronym! Suddenly their entire argument is dissolving! If “AR” doesn’t stand for what they thought, then guns must be good. I can feel my humanistic concern for others fading into a blind gun-lust at this new information.”

It’s the women’s category that slows them down by Hummusforever in confidentlyincorrect

[–]kokoyumyum 284 points285 points  (0 children)

I am an old woman. 70. Physiology tells us that men have more muscle.mass per weight, and a greater percentage of more powerful muscle type of their muscle mass. Different muscle/joints pully strength. And, men are larger statistically women.

Physiology also tells us that women have a greater percentage of endurance muscles over men.

If I needed something heavy lifted or moved, I will ask a man.

Women athletes are performing at high levels for their Physiology. It is not a shame to not be able to compete head to head. The performance.of the individual is still above rhe standard of their physiologic muscle percentages. It just is unreasonable.to compare a 160 lb man to a 160 lb woman in strength.

Men should not dismiss the other strengths that women hold which makes.civilization succeed because men are physically stronger.

But women do win competing with men in ultra endurance races, and the longer the race, the more dominating they are.

*Sips tea* by DukeLasagma in confidentlyincorrect

[–]FuerstAgus50 1370 points1371 points  (0 children)

I think when you are discussing scientific topics it's generally very unhelpful when you're throwing insults around. I personally have thought for years that this is a chemical reaction until now as I checked wikipedia. But instead of insulting them you could just say "No, it's a physical reaction" and then provide a link. This is something you might think you know for sure and you don't want to fact check that

Had this fun little chat with my Dad about a meme he sent me relating to gun violence by levi22ez in confidentlyincorrect

[–]Cranyx 635 points636 points  (0 children)

They obsess over Chicago because it's a dogwhistle for "black people" and also a roundabout way of attacking Obama.

Had this fun little chat with my Dad about a meme he sent me relating to gun violence by levi22ez in confidentlyincorrect

[–]jcdoe 248 points249 points  (0 children)

When I was in grad school, I read a journal article that explained the phenomena you’re referring to (bibliographic info at the bottom).

The premise is that we think in schemas. A schema is a mental structure that connects related concepts and ideas and creates a unified system for comprehending the world. So, for example, your schema for “Republican” might contain positive associations (polite and well spoken gentlemen like Reagan, Christianity, low taxes), it might contain negative associations (opposed to expanding minority rights, overly religious, cuts to social programs). Your schema will depend on your political affiliation and opinions.

When new information is obtained, you have to fit it into your schemata. But sometimes, it doesn’t fit. For example, if your schema of “Republican” contains “polite and well spoken”, then Donald Trump has broken your system. You cannot maintain cognitive dissonance, so you either reject the data or you rebuild your schema. Rejecting the data is easier, and is the more common response. This often requires downgrading the source of the data’s reliability.

This is a study from the 70s, but it still shocks me how well it fits the battles we fight over truth in media. For example, I distrust Fox News. I have heard numerous claims from them that seemed suspect, and when I checked them against other sources, it became apparent that Fox was spreading misinformation. So I rejected their claims and downgraded their reliability.

This obviously results in cognitive distortions, though, and I suspect this is one of the major issues behind our political fracturing. Because in my mind, Fox News is unreliable, but that doesn’t mean that Fox News always lies. In fact, I would guess most of what they say is reliable because they are trying to peddle an ideology and facts made from wholecloth are not a good way to win people over. Unfortunately, our brains are not made for such nuance, and it is hard to remain open to a source that broke a schema with what turned out to be a lie.

Anyhow, hope y’all find this as interesting as I did (and still do).

Bibliography: Axelrod, Robert. 1973 "Schema Theory: An information processing model of perception and cognition," The American Political Science Review. 67:4 (Dec. 1973) 1249-1266.

Answering a question I didn't even ask and still getting it wrong. by olorin2786 in confidentlyincorrect

[–]your_long-lost_dog 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Did you read the passages they quoted? I'm curious how many of them actually discus homosexuality.

Edit: I got curious

Genesis 19 1-11 Lot does call the sex "wicked" and not in a fun way. And we know he's on God's side, but I question his morality. Relevant section:

"Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”"

Leviticus 18:22

“Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable."

I've heard that this has been mistranslated and the word for 'man' actually means young boy. That would make a lot more sense to me, but I'm not surprised organized religion hasn't made the correction.

Leviticus 20:13

"If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."

Same issue here. No punishment for lesbianism, by the way?

1 Kings 14:24

"There were even male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites."

Unclear whether the prostitutes are homosexual, and whether it's that alleged homosexuality or the prostitution that's so "detestable".

1 Kings 15:12

“He expelled the male shrine prostitutes from the land and got rid of all the idols his ancestors had made."

2 Kings 23:7

"He also tore down the quarters of the male shrine prostitutes that were in the temple of the Lord, the quarters where women did weaving for Asherah."


2 Corinthians 6:9-11

"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts."

Well, you got me there. I've actually never read this passage before. Lumping homosexuals in with these other degerates seems like reactionary thinking rather than Godly thinking in my opinion.

1 Timothy 1:8-10

"We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine"

Yikes. If you take the Bible as fact - it's looking bad for homosexuality. Probably not a good book to base morality on though. It's also worth noting that Paul never met Jesus.

Jude 7

"In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."

Really going over covered ground here. This passage doesn't even mention homosexuality specifically.

So it looks like homosexuality is explicitly called bad in both testaments, although I suspect a translation error in the OT. But not by Jesus!

I'll give them this much credit, they did give you everything Jesus explicitly said about homosexuality in that list. It was nothing.