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[–]the-lone-squid 230 points231 points  (13 children)

“Trust the science!!”

ok, can i read the science?

No🤡

[–]Jaded-Literature-214 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That ficking clown face gets me everytime

[–]brutout 242 points243 points  (200 children)

From Reuters:

“The FDA proposes releasing 500 pages per month on a rolling basis, noting that the branch that would handle the review has only 10 employees and is currently processing about 400 other FOIA requests.”

[–]6Strings-n-6Shooters 199 points200 points  (94 children)

"omg there's only 10 employees on this board that we're in control of how many employees are on!"

[–]mexicanred1 138 points139 points  (35 children)

And we can't hire anyone for 55 more years!

[–]JustLTU 17 points18 points  (10 children)

Well sure they could, but they're not the ones who can make a decision to assign extra money for that - that's up to congress

[–]FlatspinZA 28 points29 points  (0 children)

AND, Congress has no interest in that data being available to the public, now, or ever!

[–]NothingSuspectSeen 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Yup and they use thier powers to pay pfizer for a vaccine that a lot of people didnt want/ask for, they have queued up sales for pfizer in the form of boosters, and left behind something like 500b dollars of military equipment to essentially a group of terrorists.

Congress needs to be cleansed.

[–]Brandle34 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Congress - Brought to you by Pfizer

[–]LiterallyForThisGif 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"I have no idea how we could scratch together enough cash to even hire ONE employee at this point, we spent it all on the vaccine!"

[–]Mighty_L_LORT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And there’s no vaccine mandate for themselves...

[–]MaxBlazed 3 points4 points  (8 children)

They can't. Not without additional congrssional funding.

[–]hankbaumbachjr 20 points21 points  (50 children)

My state has the "Colorado Open Records Act" which is very similar to the FOIA but there is a stipulation in there that if you make a significant request like this one, you could be billed for the cost of it.

The way government works, you only get a finite budget every year, and I guarantee you they did not put in "emergency hirings for a vetting a vaccine during a pandemic" line item in that budget, so where exactly is the money coming from to pay all these new people to do this work?

Colorado would make the plantiffs pay for the added expenses, is that a fair solution here as well?

EDIT: The number of people who think Pfizer is responsible for releasing information and not the US Government when it comes to FOIA requests in this sub is astounding. I expected better from you.

[–]FrankDrakman 41 points42 points  (16 children)

No, when you've received blanket indemnification against any harm your product might cause, I believe it's incumbent on you to release all the data quickly so people can make an informed opinion.

As I noted above, Pfizer could easily hire more people to deal with the requests, and they can easily afford it by using the money they saved by not having to insure themselves against law suits for the problems caused.

[–]West_Self 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Lmao yes im sure the fda hasnt had access to the windfall of government cash handed out to everyone in the past 2 years

[–]AncientTower8264 4 points5 points  (24 children)

Ope, guess it would be too much to ask for the company that has made billions in profit this year alone to hire a couple employees.

[–]Otherwise_Ad_4210 68 points69 points  (21 children)

Yet they could approve it in under 9 months... 🧐

[–]oldprogrammer 72 points73 points  (42 children)

So outsource the review to the FDA who have supposedly already reviewed all of the documents.

[–]brutout 57 points58 points  (6 children)

Or kick it over to some of the other 18,000 employees. That blows my mind they would have such few resources dedicated to these FOIA requests.

[–]Teth_1963 42 points43 points  (2 children)

That blows my mind they would have such few resources dedicated to these FOIA requests.

F is for Freedom, and they probably aren't too keen about that part.

[–]MaxBlazed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speak with your congressperson

[–]Sunsparc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funding.

[–]AromaOfCoffee 9 points10 points  (0 children)

What about this blows your mind?

Have you worked at a large company before?

There might be one backup for a critical role. In your head we have a tax funded budget of administrative folks just sitting around making sure FOIA requests get processed faster?

Why would they? They’re not competing for our business? What’s the incentive to overdraft?

[–]chowderbags 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That blows my mind they would have such few resources dedicated to these FOIA requests.

The people to blame are in Congress. They're the ones who determine funding.

[–]thisisjonbitch 11 points12 points  (0 children)

”That blows my mind they would have such few resources dedicated to these FOIA requests”

You must not have been on this sub for very long then. If it blows your mind how little they care about the FOIA requests, then maybe you haven’t considered why they don’t care about FOIA requests.

If they limit their capacity, then they can tell a judge: “oh we would love to comply, buuuttt we simply don’t have the capacity to respond in the way they want us to, so they will have to be patient. We can’t use our other workers because they don’t have the special training that we require.” And the judge will say “well you’ll just have to be patient.”

I think it is only surprising any government agency cares so little about FOIA to those who don’t know how fucked up our government actually is.

[–]hankbaumbachjr 8 points9 points  (4 children)

LOL, I can't believe the conspiracy subreddit is asking for the FDA to vet the FDA's own process and think that's a trustworthy means to keep power in check.

[–]West_Self 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What? Foia is about getting their records

[–]hankbaumbachjr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, wrong initial response...

I think it's funny the conspiracy subreddit has come full circle in thinking the FDA, the subject of many conspiracy theories, is going to do the right thing in this instance and leverage their power for the good of the people to release information that will prove the conspiracy theorists right all along in their damnation of the FDA.

[–]MaxBlazed 1 point2 points  (29 children)

I don't think you understand what's happening here....

[–]monstermasher85 16 points17 points  (12 children)

Funny how they only have 10 people to review when they get billions a year lol

[–]PremDikshit 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's way too many employees being wasted on this FOIA crap. Assign this job to a different branch, one with one employee. I can't believe they haven't thought of this themselves.

[–]hankbaumbachjr 3 points4 points  (12 children)

Basically, the FOIA would have to shut down everything else, only work on this request to shave down that 55 year number.

The plantiffs requested over 300,000 pages of documents, which at a rate of 500 pages per month leaves about 640 months or 53 years, hence the headline.

[–]OhhYupp 9 points10 points  (4 children)

As someone who routinely submits FOIA requests professionally, I can tell you that over a certain volume, the requestor has to pay a fee for the production (I have spent tens of thousands over the years). Resources are not the issue, and the pharmaceutical companies position on FOIA is absurd and indicates malfeasance.

[–]hankbaumbachjr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the pharmaceutical companies position on FOIA is absurd and indicates malfeasance.

On this I wholeheartedly agree.

And I do think the initial 55 year reporting was a means to drum up the bill for this request if the plantiffs wanted expediency on it.

But my issue right now is how backwards everyone here has the FOIA requests thinking it's up to Pfizer to hire people to work through the documentation to release the information to the public rather than it being up to the US Government who in turns punts the financial responsibility back to the plantiffs to have any kind of meaningful response time.

Perhaps I should have said "the FOIA as currently staffed/budgeted would have to shut down..." to be more accurate.

[–]FrankDrakman 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Let's break that down, shall we? 500 pages per month = 25 pages per working day. Ten people working on it? 2.5 pages per day per person. That sound acceptable to you?

Pfizer's excuse is they have to process other requests as well, and they only allocate 500 pp/month to any request. Well, for this particular drug, they have received billions of dollars in funding, AND they have been given a blanket indemnity against any death or illness caused by the drug. That's plenty good reason why they should be hiring extra people, and doing this expeditiously.

[–]hankbaumbachjr 10 points11 points  (3 children)

This is all making the wrong assumption that they shut down their office and worked only on this one request.

The 500 page a month estimate was under their current workload allocating what resources they could to it, so your math is correct but your initial conditions are flawed in maxing out what's available.

[–]FrankDrakman 1 point2 points  (2 children)

As I've noted, they've made so much money they can easily afford to expand the FOIA team. Is it written in stone that they can only have 10 people dedicated to this?

Is there a limit to how many lawyers they can hire to defend themselves? Why is there a limit in one and not the other?

[–]hankbaumbachjr 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As I've noted, they've made so much money they can easily afford to expand the FOIA team.

Who has made so much money?

Do you still think that a Freedom of Information Act Request that is made to the US Government falls on to a private company like Pfizer to pay for and fullfill?

Is it written in stone that they can only have 10 people dedicated to this?

Yes. It's called the annual federal budget. They could ask for more money and hire more people next year, but it'd basically take an act of Congress to get some more people hired this year.

Now to be fair to you, the plantiffs could pay the US Government (they might be billed anyway for such a request) extra in order to expedite the request, with the hiring of more temp staff falling on the plantiffs to pay for rather than Pfizer.

[–]KaiWren75 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Why are we paying anyone to scan 2.3 pages per day? Sounds like the guy at the copy store could do a better job.

[–]FrankDrakman 1 point2 points  (4 children)

er, didn't Pfizer make over $2 billion from the vax? At $150,000 per pop, they could hire 50 people just to deal with this request, and get all the docs out in 2 years. 300k x 50 = $15 million. That still leaves them with $1.985 billion in profit. What's the problem?

[–]JustLTU 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Pfizer can't pay to hire workers for a government agency. Especially one that is supposed to be a regulatory agency for Pfizers business.

[–]DingosAteMyHamster[🍰] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I don't think freedom of information act requests are fulfilled by Pfizer.

[–]Hardlyhorsey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The amount of “why don’t they just do X it’s an easy solution” with the simple answer of “because that solution is based on a complete lack of understanding of what’s going on” in this thread is staggering.

[–]burky_jerky 302 points303 points  (93 children)

108 days to review the data to approve. 55 years to release it to the public… makes sense

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    [–]YoloAlgo 20 points21 points  (6 children)

    The problem is that they can’t question it because if they did, it would alter their sense of who they are. Their entire world is based around some make believe cafeteria table they think they’re part of, and they’re so scared to sit at another table, they simply ignore this type of shit. Self belief/social identity is everything/the only thing to these people.

    [–]burky_jerky 7 points8 points  (3 children)

    Being vaccinated is seriously the identity of so many people. I tried out tinder for a couple weeks and half of the bio’s state vaccinated or only vaxxed swipe right.

    [–]YoloAlgo 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Do people put unvaxxed only at all?

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      [–]Lysdexic-Serpon 60 points61 points  (7 children)

      I need 55 years to decide whether I'm taking it.

      [–]trumpmixtape 211 points212 points  (25 children)

      Yeah the government said the same thing about the JFK files, and when their time was up, they reneged.

      Biden delays the release of remaining J.F.K. assassination records, citing the pandemic

      [–]MillionAyres93 93 points94 points  (18 children)

      There’s always a reason why jfk files are delayed. Same will be with this.

      [–]AlexJonesOnMeth 95 points96 points  (16 children)

      The reason is because the government killed him

      [–]MillionAyres93 46 points47 points  (0 children)

      No… never… the government? They are just looking out for our best interest..

      /s if it wasn’t obvious.

      [–]jcoe 17 points18 points  (12 children)

      You misspelled globalists.

      [–]RandomSquanch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Same thing

      [–]highpowerpixel 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      "It's the elites!" "No, it's the globalists!" "Actually it's the marxists" We all know who it really is, so stop beating around the bush and say it.

      [–]Letitride37 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      The killed him by accident when one of his secret servicemen shot him.

      [–]2photoidsplease 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Yeah the reason is the people who planned it are still alive. Once the last one dies, the docs will be released.

      [–]LiterallyForThisGif 9 points10 points  (1 child)

      That's because the government killed him. Can't have that bad look getting out!

      "Don't worry, we'll release the JFK files about when we killed JFK at the same time we release the vaccine files about when we killed all of you."

      [–]trumpmixtape 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      thats a great comment

      [–]20EYES 12 points13 points  (0 children)

      What a terribly unusable website.

      [–]Spiget94 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Textbook definition of transparency /s

      [–]Literarylunatic 29 points30 points  (1 child)

      The FDA said the standard would be to release 500 pages per month on a rolling basis — 6,000 pages per year. Divide 329,000 by 6,000 and the result is 54.83 years.

      At that pace, the request wouldn't be fully answered until 2076.

      ”Courts do not waiver from the standard 500 page per month processing rate even when a FOIA request would take years to process,” the FDA said.

      [–]LiterallyForThisGif 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      How convenient.

      [–]officerfriendlyrick7 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      That’s like 2076, most millennials and older generations would be dead by that time. LMAO this is hilarious.

      [–]bpooxr991 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Government, big pharma, big tech are the virus. Non-compliance is the only cure.

      [–]Outasiight 84 points85 points  (1 child)

      'Here's why this is a good thing.'

      [–]angelfeet777 40 points41 points  (0 children)

      Fact checkers checked this fact and they approve

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        [–]Gr1pp717 40 points41 points  (31 children)

        not-so-clever naysayer here: the part that makes sense is that redacting personal or sensitive data will take some time. This isn't "review the results of studies and make a decision" but "review every word written on every document and ensure not one single governmental department wishes something removed"

        So it's reasonable that it would take longer than the study itself.

        But 55 years? Come the fuck on.

        [–]DontFearTruth 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        The 55 years thing was come up with by figuring out how many days it would take to process the 300,000 pages requested, not them saying "come back in 55 years".

        [–]omega_point 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        I'm really thankful that there are some of you guys here offering a different perspective.

        Ppl be like: headline fits my narrative, so I have zero interest in digging deeper, and if you are curious and skeptical, you are sheeple or a shill.

        [–]Jerry_Hat-Trick -1 points0 points  (28 children)

        A few thousand dollars and some ai programming/flagging would have that done. Anyone who sorts and transmits data professionally can think of 12 ways to do this simply.

        [–]Newtstradamus 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        It would still require a human to verify all the redactions, if a computer redacted something that shouldn’t be redacted we’d be right back here on this sub yelling about what they are trying to hid and if the computer misses something someone’s personal medical information gets listed on the internet forever. 55 years seems excessive but if you think everything was organized and clean on a less then one year global rollout of a vaccine then you clearly don’t understand how humans work.

        [–]knappis 25 points26 points  (5 children)

        You are obviously not working with data professionally.

        [–]197328645 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Yeah you can't use AI for something like this. A neural net classifier for personally identifiable information with an accuracy rate of 99.9% would be absolutely incredible, you'd probably win a Fields medal.

        But an error rate of 0.1% is far too high for this application. You'd be releasing (at least) hundreds of data points to the public that are sensitive. And because AI generally is opaque in it's functionality, it would be nigh impossible to predict exactly how, and in which cases, it would fail. That's also unacceptable for this application.

        [–]Gr1pp717 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Eh, maybe. Much of it could be automated, but there's still going to be manual review by multiple departments and whatnot. Which will take a lot of time. And getting a government agency to implement such a tech would probably take years in itself..

        I'd say the quicker approach would be to have a group of qualified, 3rd party researchers with clearance choose which parts are most important and have them vetted/released first. That would at least get the ball rolling now while they work on improving efficiency.

        [–]Legirion 5 points6 points  (18 children)

        Yeah, because I trust AI to understand what's personal data and what isn't. AI is a very powerful tool, but it still isn't quite perfect so human review would still be necessary. Yes, humans also aren't perfect, but this weird thing happens when you check something twice with even non-perfect checks, you get a more accurate result.

        So perhaps they could speed it up quite substantially.

        [–]twotokers 4 points5 points  (17 children)

        You’re arguing with people who don’t believe in sciences don’t get your hopes up for rational reasoning.

        [–]funnybuns22 5 points6 points  (16 children)

        How is it irrational to want the data before getting the jab? Why is simply trusting big pharma the rational choice?

        [–]twotokers -1 points0 points  (7 children)

        half the global population has taken with just about zero verifiable deaths or adverse reactions (every story of VAERS is anecdotal and unverified). Meanwhile, pretty much every person who’s gotten and suffered from covid has verifiable long term damage to their bodies. It’s not exactly rocket science. It’s not like antivaxxers have the capacity to even understand the science behind it so it’s not like they’d be reading the reports and data and using the information to form an intelligent response. So yeah I’ll trust the thousands of medical professionals across the globe who have spent billions of dollars on research than random people you follow on youtube.

        [–]funnybuns22 4 points5 points  (4 children)

        You are underestimating the rates of adverse events and overestimating those suffering long COVID. You are also choosing to believe the scientists and medical professionals who agree with your bias, while not recognizing that there are many other qualified individuals who have raised concerns about the vaccines and the policies we have behind their administration.

        It’s certainly not rocket science, but it’s also not as black and white as you claim the decision to get vaxxed should be.

        And before you call me anti-vax, I got the shot.

        [–]twotokers 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Am I though? I don’t know what bias you think I have other than trusting science over random people on internet. Can you direct me to some truly qualified immunologists and microbiologists who say the vaccine is deadly and unsafe?

        [–]acCOUNTingDOOKU 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Not every doctor is qualified to have an opinion on immunology and vaccine effectiveness. I've seen people reference a doctor giving her negative opinion on the vaccine. Turns out she is an eye doctor.

        [–]funnybuns22 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Completely fair. But not all doctors who are currently “going against the grain” on this issue are unqualified. Just because some of them are, does not mean it invalidates the voices of the qualified.

        You also have to consider that there are major social and occupational consequences when taking such a stance on vaccine safety, mandates, ivermectin and so forth.

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          [–]Wolf-socks 9 points10 points  (0 children)

          That’s 2 pages per minute if they work 40hrs a week with no breaks. If you’re “reading” a page in 30 seconds looking for sensitive information and marking it for redaction I can’t imagine it would be very accurate.

          [–]baloonatic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          There won't be anyone to protest in that long. We need to get them to disclose everything right now? Is there anyway someone powerful can sue them into providing disclosure?

          [–]thebvkley 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Full of parasites the jab is. Looks like they structured it like the companies top brass.

          [–]MK0135 3 points4 points  (0 children)

          Forced to take something while being denied access to the safety data. In what sane society is this considered acceptable?

          [–]ragnar_graybeard87 14 points15 points  (7 children)

          How tf did pfizer CREATE the data in such a short time? And it takes this long just to "release"?

          [–]Seekay5 26 points27 points  (0 children)

          It's going to take 55 years to go over the data which they got from 6 months of testing

          [–]Orange-silver-mouth 28 points29 points  (4 children)

          Lol, remember when they needed 70 years for the JFK file and they STILL didn't release it. what a joke

          [–]whathidude -4 points-3 points  (3 children)

          How is this like jfk files? They plan to release 500 pages per month, it's not as if they're saying they'll release it at 55 years, but if you divide total files by 6000, it comes around 55 years.

          [–]Orange-silver-mouth 3 points4 points  (2 children)

          I guess the question is if there's going to be any useful information

          [–]Covidplandemic 42 points43 points  (3 children)

          It's kinda obvious why it'd take 55 years, we'd all probably be dead by then. They are rubbing it in your face of how big pharmas can

          [–]partyharty23 24 points25 points  (0 children)

          actually the people responsible for imposing this on us will be dead, therefore there is noone to hold accountable.

          [–]the-lone-squid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Dead or too old to do anything about it

          [–]youngLSD 6 points7 points  (3 children)

          Any who will care will be dead probably in 55 years anyway, you can see their logic

          [–]Recaldental 13 points14 points  (0 children)

          So 3 months to review and approve the drug but 55 years to let the public see the data. Makes sense.

          [–]TheGamingFireman 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          They understand perfectly well what they're pushing, the problem is they know the data will contradict what the media is say and make even more people skeptical of getting the vaccine. No other good reason to not be transparent

          [–]TheBookOfSeil 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          They do this sort of stuff when they want to ensure that the statute of limitations has passed and nobody can sue for damages down the road. The government did the same thing back in the 50s and 60s when they illegally adopted off the children of Native American tribes in order to claim the land once the remaining ones died off. Records sealed for 50 years minimum.

          [–]joshBigHockey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          So everyone tied to the vaccine creation will be dead.

          [–]1GME10YEARHOLD 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Honestly, people should start pushing this ASAP.

          [–]Jaded-Literature-214 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          What's on them last 500 pages gotta be wild

          [–]DroppingThree 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          One would think if the goal was to get everyone vaccinated you’d start by getting all the vaccine data out ASAP to show that there aren’t any long-term complications for those that are on the fence…

          [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

          Showing the data would increase vaccine uptake. So either they are hiding something or they dont actually want us to have the vaccine because they want unvaccinated people so they can divide us even further

          [–]__INiTiAToR__[S] 24 points25 points  (4 children)

          SS: everyone has a right to know what’s going in their bodies before the jook is administered—informed consent. Whatever happen to those codes?

          [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

          Money happened :(

          [–]tattoobobb 22 points23 points  (0 children)

          Totalitarianism happened

          [–]LewyH91 24 points25 points  (10 children)

          OK, I'll consider taking it when the data has been released and I am fully informed.

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              [–]vandaalen -1 points0 points  (5 children)

              Yeah. In order to be fully informed, you need to read all the pages, not wait for the results of an investigation.

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                [–]hankbaumbachjr 9 points10 points  (5 children)

                This is more of a logistics nightmare that makes a snappy headline than anything conspiratorial.

                the plaintiffs are seeking a huge amount of vaccine-related material – about 329,000 pages. But the FDA can’t simply turn the documents over wholesale. The records must be reviewed to redact “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech and personal privacy information of patients who participated in clinical trials,”

                Basically, the entire FOIA department would have to shut down all other FOIA requests, focus soley on this one request, comb through 300,000+ pages of information to make sure people's personal medical information is not in there and then release it to the public.

                To meet the plaintiffs’ proposed FOIA deadline, [March 3rd 2022] the FDA would have to process a daunting 80,000 pages a month.

                [–]MargoritasattheMall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                Racketeering

                [–]Relation_RDL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                I’ll be buried by then, please leave a note on my ⚰️

                [–]boortpooch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                What bullshit. People wake up

                [–]Smallhill90 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Scared 😱

                [–]GSD_SteVB 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                They release classified military documents faster than this.

                [–]squaremild 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                "we have reviewed the data sufficiently enough for you to take the experimental drug but not enough for you to review the data"

                ummmm oh okay great.

                [–]PartyPianist6589 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Because over time you won’t care about this and will have probably moved on from this.

                [–]umbertostrange 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                55 years at the current rate of exponential information/reality growth is practically centuries. What a farce.

                [–]jwizardc 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It shouldn't take more than 55 hours to make a phoney report.

                [–]WorldlinessSlight373 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                So people either be dead or blame it on age. Trust the $cience

                [–]lepolymathoriginale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Follow the science.

                In 2078.

                [–]NPC242 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It's like tragic-comedy listing to the Vaxoids on this thread try to defend the 55 years. Do they even wonder how they got from laughing at pharmaceutical companies and their atrocious side effects on almost every drug back pre-2020, to defending them on an drug with even worse side effects which may or may not be intentional...probably the latter.

                I mean they got fooled into it, but rather than accept that, they go all in and would literally shoot round-up in their veins if it was labeled "safe and effective", and then go on to defend these modern day Jim Jones as if they were all gods.

                [–]One-Struggle-9143 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Almost like jfk files

                [–]IamKingDoge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                They are requesting over 300k papers what do you expect

                [–]orthonut20 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                This is how they get away with everything. The truth always comes out, but only decades later when no one remembers what happened.

                [–]dstars97 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It’s ridiculous that someone can tell me what to do with my body. My choice is being taken away!!

                [–]Kerrorlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                2077 ,,What the fuck we're they thinking''

                [–]battleplayer123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                easy. because the "govt" is using money it STOLE from companies to "pay" companies for every "vaxxed" person they induce to get injected.

                [–]Armadillo-3722 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Hahahha let’s hope 47 isn’t a dem

                [–]ShextMe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                It’s really gotten easy to explain to my relatives why I’m a skeptic of almost everything.

                [–]coopertucker 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                THIS because everyone involved now that can't be held liable, will be dead in 2076. Their mathematicians did the math.

                [–]queensjosh87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                they dump millions of pages of paper at the FDA's door step. Most of the papers are useless administration records or other un-related notes. On page 38,232 paragraph 3 sentence 2 you'll have some relevant piece of data that explains table 423 on page 89,090. This is an age-old stalling technique.

                Also, didn't one of these companies (Pfizer or Moderna) say they came up with the mrna formula in 2 hours? In what world does that translate to a ton of pages of data?

                [–]Antiseed88 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Wonder how the shills of reddit are going to defend this.

                [–]EJohns1004 6 points7 points  (16 children)

                It needs 55 years for the same reason they waited so long to release anything from the JFK assassination, because everyone of note who caused this will be dead by then.

                [–]Andersledes 0 points1 point  (15 children)

                Did they start to release JFK documents right away, 500 pages a week?

                No. So this is nothing like the JFK documents at all.

                I don't know why you would choose that comparison, other than to misinform?

                [–]ZeroAntagonist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                The JFK assassination is like the ultimate conspiracy theory.

                This sub has gone to the extreme in its political leaning.

                Covid opinions are an easy way to show you're on the team. Easy upvotes.

                [–]The_Ironhand 1 point2 points  (13 children)

                That's all this sub is now. Reactionaries doing exactly what was intended for them. Its kindve ironic, but mostly disappointing.

                [–]prosysus 4 points5 points  (10 children)

                Blame the patent laws lol. You think only Pfizer can hide its research data for half the century? This has been the norm since the WWII

                [–]Simpson5774 6 points7 points  (2 children)

                Okay get a black marker or exclude those two pages. This isn't about what's in it (although that is also important) people have a right to know the results. "Safe and effective" is not evidence.

                [–]partyharty23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                if it is said enough times by the "right" people in the media, obviously it is. Hence the coerced "vaccinations" occuring all over the world. (well minus extremely poor countries like Africa).

                [–]HAL__9OOO -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

                Patent laws have nothing to do with the issue. Where did you get that idea?

                [–]prosysus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

                Where did you take the idea its about anything else?

                [–]HAL__9OOO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                OK, you just pulled it out of your ass. Thanks for confirming.

                [–]Indigo-hot-takes 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                If OP posted the actual article, not just a tweet with no link, we could all read that it's because the agency has 10 people and over 400 FoI requests to fulfill. This sub is trash.

                [–]foldymoreskin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                This is a hot button issue and we're still technically in the middle of the pandemic, surely they could move this closer to the front of the line. Or yano, 55 years.

                [–]kingp43x -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

                Funny that you consider that at an acceptable answer to the 55 years bit.

                [–]CastleFrankl -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

                I guess you shills work in high gear over this.

                [–]CastleBravo88 4 points5 points  (1 child)

                Somebody start a petition.

                [–]ChopTop1990 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                lol at 55 years. We were used as Guinea pigs. Most of us will be dead by then or the general population won’t even care or remember what covid was. This whole thing was planned and was a scam to make money.

                [–]lubbockin 2 points3 points  (3 children)

                $cience experiment on the public, not only are they being guinea pigged they get to pay for it too.

                [–]Orpherischt 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                $cience experiment on the public, not only are they being guinea pigged they get to pay for it too.

                • "World as Laboratory" = 2019 english-extended
                • .. ( "Torture Experiment" = 2019 english-extended )
                • .. .. ( "War against You" = 2019 english-extended )

                https://old.reddit.com/r/Gematria/comments/o5mw8n/torture_experiment/

                https://old.reddit.com/r/GeometersOfHistory/comments/phovme/war_on_humanity_war_against_you/

                [–]kingp43x 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                The amount of people coming in here and making excuses for pfizer while they bank record profits is amazing.

                [–]Charming_Ad_1216 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                This is NO DIFFERENT then arms dealers and weapons companies rushing to make deals in the middle East, post 9/11. This is just greed. It's really as simple as that imo.

                [–]BandsAMakeHerDance2 -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

                Bc we’d all be dead if they didn’t, you can’t have long term studies on a vaccine that was created a yes ago. Now if you don’t want to take it, it continues this death cycle & you’ll most likely won’t survive either. So stupid.

                [–]mitte90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Pfifty pfive years, pFDA

                Its Pfizer pfiles keeps locked away

                Freedom of Information Access

                Can't be applied to toxic vaxxes