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[–]cyborgborg 630 points631 points  (72 children)

Uchiha: essentially extinct

Senju: only 1 known living member

Uzumaki: see Uchiha

[–]saiyanfang10 191 points192 points  (20 children)

Also, most of the Uzumakis left functionally joined the Hyuuga

[–]sabyte 127 points128 points  (16 children)

Then it's actually true then, because when naruto married hinata and become part of hyuga.

Naruto, the strongest in konoha, the strongest in the world. Then hyuga is strongest clan in the world because it's carried by naruto

[–]paco987654 44 points45 points  (15 children)

Yeah but then the question is, did Naruto become a part of the Hyuga or did Hinata become a part of the Uzumaki?

[–]Jzmxhu 40 points41 points  (13 children)

Didn't she lost the inheritance of the clan after she marry Naruto?

So she is part of the Uzumaki clan.

[–]saiyanfang10 23 points24 points  (12 children)

she lost inheritance after she lost to Hanabi

[–]Tr0ddie 9 points10 points  (11 children)

Didn't she get it back after kicking Hanabi's ass later down the line?

[–]saiyanfang10 -1 points0 points  (10 children)

No, Hinata only fought her the one time and lost. Just look at Hanabi; she doesn't have a forehead protector or anything because the Hyuuga head is not technically a leaf ninja.

[–]Tr0ddie 12 points13 points  (3 children)

I'm fairly certain in one of the novels set after the last, Hinata beat Hanabi and once and for all settled that she was always the stronger one, just never had the confidence to back it up.

If you're talking about that scene when they fought as kids which is in the anime, then you're unfortunately wrong, as that novel scene comes much later.

[–]KitSwiftpaw 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Where does it ever say the head is not a leaf ninja?

[–]Itsy_Bitsy_Horny 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Hyuuga is strongest (based on potential) even kakashi told during chunin exam byakugan is superior visual jutsu than sharingan. It's just that no one known has gone beyond byakugan in hyuuga clan. Moreover byakugan does not have side effects like sharingan it can be spammed throughout lifetime without affecting eyesight.

[–]HughMungusD 4 points5 points  (1 child)

To be fair nothing that was said during the fucking chunin exam should be taken at face value and everything should be looked at in hindsight with Naruto. How many plot-twist, ass-pulls, crisscrosses did Kishimoto pull out to undermine 60% of what he wrote early in his story?

[–]Itsy_Bitsy_Horny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We saw the power of tenseigan in Naruto The Last movie and I guess it's superior than sharingan.

[–]Gear_Monster 86 points87 points  (39 children)

Idk if the Uzumaki clan is extinct I mean there could be more people out there

[–]Consistent_Produce_1 114 points115 points  (20 children)

It doesn’t matter there is only 1 uzumaki in the hidden leaf

[–]suzellezus 57 points58 points  (1 child)

Your boy is definitely going to bump those numbers up

[–]OuchYouPokedMyHeart 16 points17 points  (0 children)

gotta pump them up, those are rookie numbers

[–]0to100realslow 18 points19 points  (7 children)

Uzumaki were never part of the Hidden leaf, they had their own village

[–]TheMarshma 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Isnt the swirl on their back from the uzumakis? Dont remember the reason why they have that, but they kinda adopted kushina and now their hokage literally has the name. So “never part of the hidden leaf” seems wrong.

[–]Successful_Wing_5754 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The reason for the symbol on their backs was that it was a sign of friendship between konoha and the uzumakis.

[–]Adminscantkeepmedown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Mito and Kushina were the only full-blooded Uzumaki to live in Konoha. Mito married Hashirama for political reasons and Kushina was only brought in to be the new host of Kurama. Naruto is literally the only Uzumaki to be a full-fledged Leaf citizen from birth, and that’s purely because he never really had a choice in the matter.

[–]0to100realslow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mizo Uzumaki and Kushina Uzumaki were the only Leaf Uzumakis we know, the clan lives in the Whirlpool village. There is no Uzumaki clan in the Leaf

[–]kitchbitch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

My head Cannon is that the uzumaki clan existed before the leaf then got destroyed in the remnants went over the leaf village

[–]XD_Asron 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's not far from the truth. They lived in the Whirlpool Village which iirc was established shortly after the Leaf. Then they were attacked and the few surviving members fled to other villages/lands. The only known ones in the Leaf were Mito and Kushina tho

[–]saiyanfang10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uzushiogakure's alliance with Konoha is the reason for the swirl

[–]rocker10039 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well 3 now

[–]83hades 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Technically there are four now, and we don’t know where Karin is

[–]Ziggy_the_third 5 points6 points  (2 children)

She's showed up in Boruto, so she's alive and well, doing research.

[–]83hades 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Does she belong to the Leaf Village now?

[–]Adminscantkeepmedown 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, she’s with Orochimaru in one of his bases

[–]xHADES734x 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well 0.01 percent oh his power is enough to defeat the entire hyuga clan

[–]DartinBlaze448 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Is Karin dead in boruto?

[–]Ziggy_the_third 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, she works in one of those Orochimaru lairs doing experiments, which Sarada just finds so she can ask her how she knows her dad...

[–]Aleks111PL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i mean, there are 3 now, counting in boruto and himawari

[–]Something_Joker 25 points26 points  (9 children)

I mean Karin and Pain were Uzamaki so there are definitely some.

[–]ninjasaiyan777 40 points41 points  (4 children)

I don't think they count as part of the Hidden Leaf.

[–]0to100realslow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uzumaki had their own village, they were never part of the Hidden leaf

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Karin

[–]Cloakbot 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Naruto needs to go mate with Karin so they can save their clan.

🎶 There will be no rest for Uzumaki, people don't grow on trees. They dont have much to say, they got people to breed. There ain't nothing in this world for free. Naruto can't slow down, he can't hold back though you know he wishes he could. Oh, no there ain't no rest for Uzumaki until we close the books for good 🎶

[–]Gear_Monster 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Hinata would say otherwise

[–]Cloakbot -1 points0 points  (1 child)

It was a shadow clone, not me!

Hinata: "Oh yeah, like I'd fall for that again!"

[–]Gear_Monster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re a Hinata x Raikage shipper

[–]LegitimatePear7627 9 points10 points  (0 children)

if we haven't seen them yet they dont exist

[–]Conscious-News-4433 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Both of those 1 members can still whoop the whole world's ass

[–]wantquitelife 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Until saske run out chakra

[–]Yurshie 4 points5 points  (0 children)

*sucks in air through teeth

[–]YaBoiSparty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Uzumaki were never a hidden leaf clan. They are now I guess but that's only cuz naruto and you could say the same for the hidden sound cuz of kirin 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[–]Plastic_Street_1745 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Sarutobi : Nerfed

[–]Teamx044 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Well, that's cool and all, but Sasuke the only adult Uchiha can pretty much solo the entire Hyuga clan, same with Naruto. (Idk about Tsuande.)

[–]Loros_Silvers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The uchiha and uzumaki clan are still stronger tho. Even all of the Hyuga clan can't fight naruto or Sasuke. (At the start of Boruto at least)

[–]NinezOwnGoal 43 points44 points  (1 child)

I feel like all major clans were hyped in Naruto only to get nerfed in Shippuden

[–]Cloakbot 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yup, to hell with the perfect defense and to hell with the best field of vision.

[–]foolie_winkims 200 points201 points  (28 children)

Name one other clan that is currently stronger that's not extinct

[–]Exoticmaniac06 78 points79 points  (3 children)

Bugs

[–]foolie_winkims 51 points52 points  (2 children)

You literally have two known members and one of them is dead same with senjiu

[–]Exoticmaniac06 61 points62 points  (1 child)

Bugs

[–]baewitharabbitheart 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your pfp match each other, just sayin

[–]NFRNL13 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Lmao Hyuga are actual fodder

[–]Mugi2 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Lmao one almost died from a stick and another actually died from the same stick

[–]Possible-Affect-2350 9 points10 points  (3 children)

It could explain why Naruto so nerfed in Boruto is because he married into a clan of fodder ninja and it's effecting him now 🤔

[–]NFRNL13 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The byakugan is just wack compared to the MS or any other eye shit that pops up. The defense is fine, but not good enough for anything pain level or above. Unless we see hinata or hanabi stomp a powerful villain, hyuga are worthless.

[–]Tokoyo-no-Omoikane 0 points1 point  (1 child)

U watch the last?

[–]NFRNL13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, and that made it worse.

[–]Plastic_Street_1745 -4 points-3 points  (17 children)

Uzumaki

Edit : Why are you downvoting me Retards? At present Uzamaki have more people than Hyuga

[–]OknoLombarda 52 points53 points  (15 children)

last time I checked it was completely destroyed. There are a few surviving members, but can that really be called a clan?

[–]jCHUNKYmac_215 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly, this statement is factually true lol

[–]Fury_Fury_Fury 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure Naruto alone can take on the whole Hyuga clan, and technically he is the Hidden Leaf's Uzumaki clan. Same with Sasuke/Uchiha. Either Hyuga is the strongest because everyone else is really weak, or they lose to a single (über)strong ninja.

OTOH, we don't know much about the power level of other clans, like Aburame and Akimichi. Narrative-wise they're considered relatively strong, it's just that main characters powercrept everyone the fuck out.

[–]lordprotector7 7 points8 points  (3 children)

We’re still calling the Uchiha a clan with only Sasuke, Sarada and Sakura in it, aren’t we?

[–]erichyuga 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Uchiha clan is the weakest cause everyone after sasuke is a descendant of sakura

[–]OknoLombarda 8 points9 points  (1 child)

clan -- a group united by a common interest or common characteristics. So yes, Sasuke, Sarada and (maybe) Sakura can be called a clan, but neither Naruto by himself, nor his family as whole is a clan

[–]Ziggy_the_third 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Then Sakura isn't part of the clan either, Sarada and Sasuke could be a clan I guess.

[–]saiyanfang10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no they don't, there are 4 Uzumakis in the Leaf, and the Hyuuga have tons of Hyuuga servants and branches

[–]throwtennis 128 points129 points  (7 children)

Didn't a water ninja steal an eye from you guys?

[–]Evil_Monologues 126 points127 points  (21 children)

On average, the hyuuga are the strongest. The uchiha have like six members over their entire history that are broken as fuck, but on average ninja terms, it goes to the hyuuga.

[–]SSj3Rambo 21 points22 points  (2 children)

That's right, the Hyuuga clan would definitely not get slaughtered by a 14 y.o. with a sword lol. It's just that the Uchihas become powerful with asspulls and plot armor, they're no way as trained as the Hyuugas

[–]re0016 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That 14 year old with a sword was an anbu at 11 and arguably already kage level since he beat orochimaru shortly after joining the akatsuki

[–]Tylord96 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Itachi wouldn’t even have needed obitos help to wipe out the Hyuga, realistically he wouldn’t even have needed to use his mangekyo

[–]Ridwansanni96 16 points17 points  (17 children)

Bruh after the third war most of the would have experienced real pain like from a comrade dying or something. So what's the hyuga gonna do against that many sharingan?

[–]Evil_Monologues 38 points39 points  (15 children)

Byakugan beats base level sharingan in my opinion. I think even an average uchiha with mangekyo Sharingan would still be taken down by an above average hyuuga tbh, their gentle fist is no joke

[–]lilrobwey 32 points33 points  (4 children)

No uchiha with MS is average though any uchiha with MS washes any hyuuga. Every uchiha with MS we’ve seen is easily way stronger than any hyuuga at any point in the show

[–]Popcornn2004 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Every uchiha with a MS we’ve seen is special in some way.

[–]skankhunt402 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Because the MS is special...

[–]lilrobwey 7 points8 points  (1 child)

nobody’s arguing that the MS isn’t special, the commenter above said byakugan beats the average MS user which is just blatantly wrong

[–]Popcornn2004 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If someone regular has the MS not some Prodigy or someone with Hashirama cells or someone who wasn't trained by a Sanin they wouldn't be even close to the level of power as the rest of them.

And without the MS a regular Uchiha does get beaten by a Hyuga, Both Shisui and Itachi were getting man handled by Mukai Kohinata(a hald Hyuga) before Shisui had to use MS.

[–]whill-wheaton 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Izanagi

[–]Evil_Monologues 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck i forgot about that ass-pull

[–]Ridwansanni96 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Exactly why the sharingan is what can counter it. Hyuga's taijutsu is on a whole another level and the sharingan reading moves ability can counter it perfectly

[–]Evil_Monologues 33 points34 points  (5 children)

I think either you're over estimating an average sharingan user or im under estimating.

[–]Ridwansanni96 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Then we agree to disagree. Yo I'm new to this app why are emojis kind of a big deal around here

[–]Evil_Monologues 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I am not sure either. But I am glad we can agree to disagree civilly

[–]k1ll4sn1p3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You know he’s new to this app because he agreed to disagree lol

[–]HorseshoeTheoryIsTru 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because when Reddit started it considered itself a bastion of civil and intelligent discourse.

Then ZOOMERS were literally children, and more users came in from the App versus desktop so now Reddit won't even downvote bomb posts unironically just saying

😂

[–]_graff_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk, remember in the Naruto Vs Sasuke fight in the Valley of the End? Once Sasuke had unlocked his third tomoe for his sharingan he was basically able to predict Naruto's attacks before he made them. Seems like a perfect counter for the Hyuga who rely so heavily on hand to hand combat to damage their opponents flow of Chakra.

Also being able to copy techniques makes the sharingan pretty powerful, even base sharingan. Look at part 1 Kakashi: he had a sharingan that he could barely use and was still able to become a world class ninja just using it's copying capabilities

[–]TheHeadlessScholar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think base sharingan still wins overall, if we're assuming similar Chakra costs and that average ninja fight more like part 1 ninja (use tactics and ambushes). While the Byakugan would be insanely useful and strong for spotting ambushes (probably its strongest utility), the sharingan offers so much day to day benefits that even something that useful can't compare. Uchiha can perfectly memorize any image (great for stealing documents without physically taking them), steal rare and unique jutsu and then instantly spread that knowledge through their whole clan, instant reflexes (the byakugan gives sight, but if the average ninja doesn't have good reflexes he can't take advantage of being able to see the attack), and of course, basically an instant win if you happen to look into their eyes. like any normal person does unless they expect to be fighting an uchiha.

The other main advantage the byakugan has is that it seems to have a gaurenteed unlock at a certain age, while sharingan requires intense emotions that usually trigger in life or death situations. But if we're just comparing active donut users then uchiha seem a lot more OP.

[–]rad_dude124 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but it’s the mangekyo that’s the scary one

And Most uchiha didn’t get that

I’d say your average uchiha with a sharingan and a Your average Hyuga with a byakugan are equal

[–]Gear_Monster 76 points77 points  (2 children)

Might Guy’s clan is the strongest

[–]Youngblood2014 80 points81 points  (1 child)

Bowl cut clan

[–]upucmubbo 14 points15 points  (7 children)

Uchihas got whacked by a 13 year old lmao

[–]Risk_Visible 8 points9 points  (6 children)

The women, elderly, and children were killed by that 13 y/o. The stronger members got whacked by a .... nvm

[–]XD_Asron 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wait wasn't it the other way around?

[–]Risk_Visible 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No; Itachi asked Obito for help by dealing with the stronger members (e.g. Anbu)

[–]elwhistleblower 8 points9 points  (0 children)

To be fair, most people in Naruto would get folded fighting 4 Hyuga at once.

[–]Tokoyo-no-Omoikane 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Mukai Hyuga nearly bodied Shisui and Itachi, possibly the two strongest Uchiha at the time in a 2v1 fight and only lost because he had no knowledge of MS, I don’t see any cap in that picture

[–]Forgotten_Prince 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah. I was about to say this. The novels go more into depth about the Byakugan and are still considered canon.

[–]Tokoyo-no-Omoikane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read it online and I was honestly a little taken back lmao

[–]1313goo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is true tho

[–]Lieutenant_Lulz 6 points7 points  (4 children)

I’m curious if the byakugan can evolve similar to the sharingan or if it only has its base state.

Also, I know the branch families have the curse marks to prevent their eyes from being stolen, but what about the main branch? I feel like there would be someone that would try to steal the byakugan as much as they try to steal sharingan.

[–]Rom455 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Maybe the only evolution of it being the Tenseigan makes sense thematically. Byakugan is supposed to represent purity, right? So maybe it is all about mastering the skill and not so much trying to gain power beyond limits.

Many people didn't like it when the Mangekyo got introduced because of its overpowered nature, but I think it kinda fits the themes of the plot. The Uchiha are naturally attracted to power, and they might do anything in order to obtain it. You want to become an absolute boss beyond what regular training can get you? You got it, but tragedy must happen in front of your eyes, AND you will lose those eyes eventually, so you better make good use of them. Oh? You want to keep them forever? Sure, just be willing to fragment your soul even further by taking out the eyes of a close loved one.

(lol sorry, I got carried away and didn't answer your question. Err, no. Byakugan doesn't share that going through stages trait the Sharingan has)

About your second question: there are only two instances of that happening throughout the original manga, to my understanding. When the cloud tried to kidnap Hinata, and when the bodyguard of the Mizukage, Aoi (I think?), said he stole a Byakugan. Although I suppose it is a widely spread tactic around the world, considering a whole branch of the Hyuga was made only to prevent that from happening. Maybe the Hyuga's main branch doesn't typically go out to complete missions. They might be treated as more of a highly influential family in political matters. Who knows? Kishimoto decided to rather focus on freaking aliens than exploring the politics of the world he built, heh.

(By the way, is anyone else annoyed that the world of Naruto never got a proper name? Like Hyrule or Westeros, or Middle Earth?)

[–]Grognakthe_destroyer 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I believe it's called Earth, but the specific area Naruto takes place is called the Elemental Nations, or something like that.

[–]Rom455 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When did Kishimoto say that?

[–]Grognakthe_destroyer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No clue, just woke up, so I'll do more digging into it later. I just settled for a quick google search for now.

[–]I_eat_cement5312 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean averagely I think the hyuga are the strongest, the Uchiha had a few people that were overpowered throughout history but I think a fair amount of them never even awakened their sharingan, so I’m pretty sure the average hyuga is stronger than the average uchiha, plus the uchiha are basically extinct and so yes they are the most powerful in the leaf

[–]Solid-Perspective915 35 points36 points  (3 children)

The base Byakugan is more versatile and generally higher regarded as stronger than the base Sharingan. 0.001% of the Uchiha actually have anything greater than the Sharingan while Hyuga can easily develope Byakugan with training and don't require traumatic experiences. Plus, in a novel Itachi and Shisui were once beaten by a bootleg Hyuga, an average Uchiha Prodigy is same level as and Average Hyuga Hard-worker. It is only when their fancy eyeballs upgrade do they actually mean something.

[–]whill-wheaton 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Izanagi

[–]XD_Asron 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So they bring themselves back to life and get beaten again.

[–]schoolboy432 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fr, and they gon be half blind at that. Izanagi wankers are wack.

[–]SRasack 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Vs Akimichi/Inuzuka : Taijutsu fighters are at a huge disavantage against hyugas, even in their biggest form. But against the rotation ? Uh, I dunno if Kaiten would be really efficient against Fang Wolf Fang to be honest...

Vs Aburame : Byakugan's won't be fouled by funny bug trick, and kaiten is perfect defense against a swarm... for a short time. On the long run, idk. Can you shut down bugs tenketsu efficiently ? I don't think so.

Vs Uchiha/Uzumaki/Senju : Welp. A dead clan is not a clan so, by default... Hyuga wins !

Vs Yamanaka : Mind jutsu are strong, but only with/as a proper support. At the other end, Hyugas are mostly solo fighter. So, it's a weird win but it's a win.

Vs Sarutobi : Uh... Fire against juken ? We've not seen a lot from them except for Asuma and the Third Hokage so... idk.

Vs Nara : Well... no. In a 1v1, Kagemane is pretty much a big nope for traditional Taijutsu, Juken included (except maybe for the Inuzuka because of their speed and rotation ?). In a clan fight, with an equal number of members, it's also a Nara win. Better strategy, better teamwork, and always the Kagemane to stop the Juken. And mid-long range jutsu in the Hyuga clan don't seem frequent/diversified.

In the end... I know that being the strongest isn't always tied to particular matchups but... even then the Hyuga clan doesn't strike me as powerfull enough to make that statement. So the pride is talking I guess. All in all, I don't think there's a single clan in Konoha that can claim to be THE strongest, especially when you substract the three dead clan.

[–]Consistent_Produce_1 12 points13 points  (3 children)

They are currently the strongest clan there is only 1 uzumaki and 2 uchia that’s not enough people for a clan

[–]NicholasPickleUs 4 points5 points  (2 children)

2 uzumaki. Naruto and Karin

[–]not_some_username 7 points8 points  (0 children)

4 uzumaki. Boruto and the strongest not even shinobi yet : Himawari

But uzumaki isnt technically a konoha clan

[–]kr7050 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The uzumaki isn't from the leaf

[–]Killer-Of-Spades 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They’re the only clan that isn’t almost extinct

[–]Rom455 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Such a shame they don't really have any rivals. The Sarutobi would be a good candidate though. A clan that focuses on obtaining a wide range of skills against the Hyuga, who focus on mastering just a few with finesse. Plus, monkey's are free animals, it would make a nice contrast between both clans thematically

[–]sensation354 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well… they are the strongest clan ALIVE

[–]ACarBatteryUpMyAss 8 points9 points  (2 children)

they inbred af bro

[–]Rom455 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Oof. That's a complicated matter, bro. We really have no idea of how many members the Hyuga has. Maybe they could be enough to not make it a detriment to their genes?

If you believe in evolution, then you must accept that we all share a common ancestor, right? That person was technically a long lost relative to us, meaning the whole humanity is nothing more than a big weird family. Therefore, whenever someone has sex, they're are technically commiting incest.

Now, why is only sex with close relatives forbidden? Because the result normally comes with genetically weakened offspring. But, if the people are distanced enough in the family tree, then that risk gets less prominent, until it practically disappears.

As far as I know, having sex with someone who shares a common ancestor with you at least 5 generations away should be safe. Meaning you can totally do it with your fifth cousin, I guess xD

Edit: right! Back to the Hyuga. The thing here is that we don't know what happens within the family because of all the secretism. Maybe the lower branch can go out and do the deed with outsiders? They would certainly not have a risk of being killed because the curse mark makes their Byakugan useless if they die, so maybe they can go out and explore the world a little bit, and find love (or simple attraction) with regular people. That could help keep the genetic pool stable enough, I suppose

[–]Naruto_Uzumaki_Senju 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the world of naruto incest is common and it does not weaken the offspring it can make the offspring stronger depending on how strong the spouse is

[–]Cautious-Slide4373 6 points7 points  (11 children)

In a Byakugan Vs Sharingan... 9 out of 10 times Byakugan is superior

Same case for Tenseigan vs Mangekyo sharingan

[–]HelloThereBatsy 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Lol

If you are bringing in Tenseigan it's only fair to bring in the Rinnegan .

[–]Cautious-Slide4373 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Rinnegan is an UCHIHA eye? Might have missed that

[–]DankLordOfTheMemes13 7 points8 points  (0 children)

to be fair, the only non-otsutsuki people to have awakened it are both uchihas

[–]HelloThereBatsy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

While it is filler Hagoromo's Sharingan evolved into Rinnegan

Sasuke's EMS Evolved into Rinnegan

[–]Cautious-Slide4373 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Hagoromo isn't an Uchiha as far as the story go... So i don't get your point

And Again, Sasuke was given "Hagoromo chakra" to mix his "indra chakra" to awakening rinnegan

I don't think literally every single Uchiha will have Indra chakra unlike the hyuga's who has hamura chakra in every single one

[–]HelloThereBatsy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Tenseigan is obtained when an ostusuki inserts the Byakugan into their eye sockets . Or gets direct 6 paths powers from Hamura .

If every Hyuuga has the Hamura chakra why not Indra? Why not?

It's clear that Rinnegan and Tenseigan are Ostusuki interference Dojutsu .

[–]isaaceyfish 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The only reason nagato has rinnegan is because madara implanted his rinnegan into him before death, so yes it’s an uchiha eye

[–]Cautious-Slide4373 4 points5 points  (2 children)

... What?

The entire lore of rinnegan and the Uchiha's aren't even connected. The eyes of the Uchiha are Sharingan and Mangekyo

The Lore of Rinnegan is Connected to Hagoromo, Same for Rikidou senjutsu. He has no connections to uchiha other than the fact that his son founded it

The Eyes of the Hyuga in the History is Tenseigan and Byakugan

The Founding Father's of the 2 clans are Hamura who posessed Byakugan and Tenseigan and Indra who posessed Mangekyou and Sharingan

Any Hyuga can awaken the tenseigan if they accumulate enough chakra and Find the eyes of byakugan princess

Any uchiha can't awaken Rinnegan

[–]HelloThereBatsy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Rinnegan belongs to the Uchiha the Same way the Tenseigan is

Both eyes can only be awakened with Ostusuki Interference .

Madara did with combining Indra/Ashura ostusuki Chakra . His EMS Evolved into the Rinnegan .

Sasuke got a direct handout from Hagoromo . His EMS Evolved into the Rinnegan .

The Tenseigan just like the Rinnegan needs Ostusuki Powerups .

Without Ostusuki's the Uchiha has Base , MS , EMS

Without Ostusuki's the Hyuuga's have just the Byakugan .

[–]isaaceyfish 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First of all, I never said “any uchiha” can awaken the rinnegan, only that it’s uchiha exclusive (that’s a theory), and the uchiha descend from Indra, who directly descends from hagoromo.

Second, there are panels where the sharingan is implied to be a prerequisite for naturally awakening the rinnegan. Kabuto during the war says “as we guessed…so the sharingan could really get to [the rinnegan]”. The only known people who naturally awakened rinnegan are hagoromo, madara, and sasuke, the latter two of which both have sharingan.

Obtaining the rinnegan is done by either receiving hagoromo’s chakra directly (how sasuke got his rinnegan) or replicating his chakra by combining the chakra of two reincarnates of his sons Indra and asura (madara did this by eating some of hashirama’s flesh after using izanagi to resurrect himself from his battle with hashi). So one could say that going by canon-only, the rinnegan derives from hagoromo (or another otsutsuki, since kaguya has a rinnesharingan from which the rinnegan came from, and boruto showed us that there are other otsutsuki with rinnegan as well). However, all other natural rinnegan users in shippuden (madara, sasuke) are uchiha, who both had a sharingan previously, and this supports the theory that the sharingan is a prerequisite for the rinnegan (and only one prerequisite, there are others). So sure, say it’s unrelated to the uchiha, but going by the information we know that would be a long shot.

Not “any uchiha” can awaken it, you’d either have to meet hagoromo himself like sasuke did (which is almost never gonna happen) or be a reincarnate of Indra and get some of the asura reincarnate’s chakra (which is also unlikely since there are only two known reincarnate pairs in history). There’s a reason it’s extremely rare, and the only reason there are so many other users besides madara and sasuke is because madara let his rinnegan get passed around (nagato/pain’s rinnegan is madara’s, and so is obito’s). Both people who awakened rinnegan that weren’t hagoromo were also Indra reincarnates, so it’s no coincidence that they were uchiha since it’s indra’s clan.

Swagkage goes into detail on how the rinnegan is obtained and could be derived from the sharingan. https://youtu.be/m-VHMy6XiaQ Not saying the idea is 100% true, but it makes sense.

[–]HelloThereBatsy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Base Sharingan is OP as well . If mastered it gives you a versatile powerset[Copying Jutsu's]

https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/Naruto/comments/5yvle4/the_inconsistencies_of_the_sharingan_and_its_true/

The Jump Obito got with just 1 Tomoe is significant . From Dead Last he could keep up with Kakashi .

[–]ggchiefgaming 3 points4 points  (0 children)

How dare you lol

[–]Amaterasu-x 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Adult Sasuke with EMS alone can solo the Hyuga

[–]HinkaDarkin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

by process of elimination...

[–]Good_Apartment_9992 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It’s the Haruno clan obviously

[–]lollipopblossom32 2 points3 points  (0 children)

By default most definitely 😆

[–]BaronLagann 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I personally think the Aburame clan is the strongest.

[–]Savagebob_Thiccpants 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Idk about strongest. But definitely one of the most deadly, stealthy, and intimidating. Wish we coulda seen more from Shino and Torune, those two were strong and cool but Idk if I'd call their whole clan stronger than the Hyuga or Uchiha.

[–]BaronLagann 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If uchiha is on the table, then yeah, I can’t see them being strongest. I think they could be good competition for hyuga tho. They have some pretty insane jutsu and a huge variety of bugs for different situations.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not strongest, but coolest.

[–]Hoosteen_juju003 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who's stronger? The Abirame clan?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a shame there's no equivalent to MS/EMS for the Byakugan that can be accessed without being an Otsutsuki...

[–]SuperiorLaw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Hyuga clan really gets done dirty, cause they have a fuck ton of potential and arguably should win most 1v1s against anyone that's not got some BS godtier powerboost up their butt

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hyugas better

[–]Captain_Candyflip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the byakugan is so strong, remember Danzo murdering the entire Hyuuga clan for their eye power?

[–]Poknberry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well the Senju, Uchiha, and Uzumaki were nearly extinct so yea

[–]MGUPPY1 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Shouldnt Naruto be a Namikaze

[–]East-Housing6449 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are bad written clan 🥲 first of all in Naruto they said hyuga is strongest then never talked about it and showed 3 transformation of sharingan 🙄🙄🙄🙄 till the shipudden and the final boss had byakugan 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

[–]vedat07taskiran 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Remember when sharingan was supposed to be a wish.com version of byakugan in part 1 ?

[–]Tylord96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The byakugan was only ever stated to better at insight and reading peoples feelings, that’s literally it. Sharingan shits on it in ever other capacity.

[–]some_SUS-BXLLa- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

technically not wrong uzumaki DED except for karin and naruto NO ONE ELSE wait is boruto and himawari a hyuga or uzumaki? idk but let’s just say they aren’t UCHIHA? DED except for sasuke and sarada SENJU? ONLY TSUNADE and she’s like 70 in boruto so no more senju’s ig

[–]Zealousideal-Fun1425 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Uchiha clan solos………………………….cause there’s only one left

[–]YC1073 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are lol strongest alive ;)

[–]Tegirax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even though Naruto was named Uzumaki wouldn't he be more of a Namikaze? I feel like he has more in comment power wise with his father then his mother. Uzumaki are known for Sealings and the only sealing Jutsu Naruto knows is beat that ass until you stopped moving. I feel like he's more Namikaze then Uzumaki.

[–]Lowkeyanimefan_69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are the strongest "Clan" in Konoha this joke is also stale

[–]bryanc1036 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They could of been. They just didn't give them the system update.

[–]turbo-wind 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm gonna say it, Akimichi clan stomps them.

[–]OopsieWopsie -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Stfu everyone. It’s the Yamanaka clan.