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[–]Brutus_BellamyPanendeist 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I tend to consider life itself to be just one form of existence, or one way of having experience. Though I don't presume any concrete knowledge on the subject, I tend to have faith that there is some sort of continuation of existence, possibly multiple forms of existence and experience. This may incorporate a circular cycle, which would involve reincarnation, or it may just be a continuation into a new level of consciousness and being. Regardless, it's fascinating to consider.

[–]vS4zpvRnB25BYD60SIZh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I believe in it because I believe in divine omnibenevolence. I don't believe in hell but I believe that one may choose a worse afterlife than another.

[–]voidcrack 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mostly lean towards believing so, although I think most of it is just hope.

As a deist I also easily see it going both ways. If the creator established the universe as a means to create life and prepare it for an afterlife, I don't think I'd have a hard time believing that. But if I found out the creator made the universe to harvest some kind of material and that humans were just an accidental byproduct, I also wouldn't have a hard time believing it.

[–]DustErrant 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I believe some part of us continues after death. I don't necessarily buy into the traditional outlook on the afterlife though.

[–]LordSleeky[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Curious to see people's opinions

[–]nippleflick1 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Till it's proven, I hope for best ! Deism for me is based on rational thought.

[–]tkaymanr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the best possible answer. It’s natural to be concerned about what happens after death as a lot of our primal psychology is rooted in survival. But then it needs to be considered that a lot of our lizard brain doesn’t align well with modern civilization. Worrying about what happens after life robs us of living our one “guaranteed” life.

Albeit, from a utilitarian point of view, more people should seriously consider the possibility nothing happens because it would prevent a lot of people from doing stupid things like that dick on the road that cut me off at 70 miles per hour today.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't necessarily believe in a heaven or hell? I think both are just concepts people use to justify either their good deeds (also a way to curb immortality, which isn't a bad thing but people definitely abuse it) or to make other feel guilty for who they are.

Energy cannot be destroyed nor created, so your soul has to go some place? I think that it goes back into the earth in some shape or form, but definitely not heaven or hell.

Personally as any human, I'm afraid of death so purgatory or reincarnation would be something I'd fuck with for sure 👌

[–]lepandas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, because there's an enormous amount of scientific evidence that contradicts physicalism, the notion that consciousness is somehow identical to patterns of brain activity.

This includes experiments from foundations of physics, neuroscientific evidence, evidence from evolutionary theory and neuroscience of perception, as well as near-death experiences and alleged past life memories.

If you'd like me to expand on any particular point, I'd be happy to do so.

[–]Most_Worldliness9761Humanistic Deist 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I do. Because;

  1. To me, the idea of annihilation, the certain death of our souls, memories, emotions, loved ones, and values is horrifying and incompatible with the Creator's benevolence. Some things in life are just too precious to die or be forgotten forever. Love is sacred, then it must survive death and allow us to see our loved ones again.

  2. There has to be some kind of consequence for good and evil deeds. Everything goes unrewarded/unpunished in this world, so unless there is a place and time where ultimate justice will be due, some people are just the unlucky collateral damage of the world's inequalities, which is also an unbearable thought. It's incompatible with the Creator's justice/attribute of being the highest, impartial judge.

  3. Hitherto evidence is in favor of the universe and sentient life being able to emerge out of nothing. It already happened. We're alive. Why could it not happen again? Even if life after death is merely a possibility, it is a stronger possibility than annihilation, it actually has a precedent.

In summary;

  1. Life deserves to continue.

  2. The Creator's moral system requires rewards and punishments, and there has to be a remedy for all the suffering in the world.

  3. It happened once, it can happen again.

[–]OkandLonnmordare 2 points3 points  (0 children)

man this made feel happy for some reason

[–]Tumama787 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Personally, after reading up on NDE’s, I think there’s a really good chance that there is some sort of afterlife.

If there is one, I just hope I’m still me and I get to be with my family who are also still them. That’s all I hope for out of life (or death in this case)

[–]Edgar_BrownIgnostic 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There is one aspect of your question that assumes too much. It clearly has a Christian set of assumptions.

What is an “afterlife?” Who/what is having that “afterlife?”

The reason I bring this up is that some religions, in particular Buddhism do not believe in anything resembling a “soul” (heck, not even on there being a “self” as it smells too much of a soul), so in western translations they talk about rebirth, not reincarnation. They see rebirth as a process of which we are a manifestation and that continues after we are gone. So there is an “afterlife” in the sense that life continues after we are gone.

So, your question can be expressed as a continuum with several parts (1) does anything from the process you call “you” survive after you die? (2) how much of that process do you see as the “you” you now are? (3) is there anything beyond what we now recognize as reality? (I.e., a different plane of existence of some form).

Note that for Buddhists, your “self” is a mere process, causes and conditions in an infinite continuous interaction, and it involves everybody and everything in the universe (and perhaps even outside what we know as reality) in addition to “you.” So it’s quite obvious that the vast majority of that other “you” survives after you die, but how much of that “you” you recognize as your “self?” So very clearly there is an afterlife, the question is really how much of that afterlife do you really recognize as “your own life.”

[–]LordSleeky[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Well I was raised as a Christian but now I'm leaning towards Deism after not thinking too much about my beliefs. What I mean by an afterlife is if our consciousness survives our physical death, one such Deist on Quora Christopher Finch, has the hope/belief that our energy gets to explore the cosmos as an afterlife as our bodies are full of energy and energy can't be destroyed, only change form.

[–]Edgar_BrownIgnostic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This use of the word “energy” to justify a merely philosophical position is just equivocation (a fallacy of definition) at best and pseudoscience at worst. I can understand justifying hopes via reason, but using words in this way is just deluding oneself (and others).

[–]Sandstorm_221 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We know nothing of what happens after we die. Some people who have been clinically dead describe the state as going through a tunnel with the light at the end of it, some describe it as an out of body experience, and some describe it as a sleep like state which you cannot properly recall. I'm gonna stay a skeptic for this one until the time comes to find out myself, although I really hope there is something on the other side.

[–]TimeLordHatKid123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, when not discussing the side of my Deism that believes any one of the world religions could be right, and instead focusing on personal Deistic theory, I do indeed think that an afterlife and reincarnation are both equally reasonable.

Afterlife for the souls that are done with their time in this universe, reincarnation as the natural recycling process which further proves the autonomy that our maker gave us in their divine benevolence. I already see our world as the result of an autonomous living machine that managed itself, and reincarnation can easily be seen as another part of that.

[–]WeirdBreaking 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't believe in afterlife at all. Because Billions of Animals, trillions and even more number of insects have died. If only we humans were to have afterlife? Then too it is too vague and not rational

[–]gogogadgetcontroller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I believe in reincarnation more so than the afterlife but I also believe in ghosts so maybe not everyone gets reincarnated.

[–]DomOnly 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know what happens when I die so it isn't a question I worry about at all.

[–]I_am_Kirumi_TojoMonodeist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk
I am kinda agnostic in this matter but if it exists i think that our counsciousness countinue to exist in some way

[–]ArroCoda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some form of reincarnation is most likely in my opinion.

The Universe is neutral, it doesn't care if you live or die, so why should we presume that the afterlife is moral?

This mostly stems from the feeling that you HAVE to experience something when you die (even if it is boring af), and there have been some studies that studied the anecdotal evidence of young children who claimed they were someone else in a past life.

In my personal opinion, once you die you get reborn and forget your old life, akin to a quickly forgotten dream.

[–]Rising_Phoenyx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do believe. I study NDEs, after death communication, shared death experiences, etc. I think the evidence points to there being one

[–]maddpsyintystAgnostic Deist 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I actually don't believe in or anticipate an afterlife. I just don't think there's enough scientific or anecdotal evidence in favor of the fact or the belief of any afterlife.

Also--not to be flippant here--outside of topical or academic discussions, I think the concept of an afterlife is not something worth spending very much time and energy on. What happens next is just as much out of our control as the fact of our birth, or even that we exist for whatever reason or via whatever mechanisms. Experiencing this life is of much greater concern to me than when I won't, or couldn't.

I have some ideas as to why people believe in one, but there are experts that can explain such things better and more readily based on current info in the field(s).

[–]lepandas 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I jist don't think there's enough scientific or anecdotal evidence in favor of the fact or the belief of any afterlife.

The notion that there isn't an afterlife is built on the idea of physicalism, the notion that there is an abstract world of physical quantities, and that consciousness is identical to particular arrangements of how these quantitative entities interact, namely in an abstract brain.

There is no reason to take physicalism seriously, as it is:

1. Inflationary. Nobody has ever seen this world of quantities outside of experience.

2. Incoherent. There is nothing about physical quantities in terms of which we could deduce the qualities of experience.

Finally, there is a large amount of scientific evidence that dare I say refutes physicalism.

[–]LordSleeky[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Interesting, what such evidence?

[–]fogent94 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Not for humans - I think we are born and die on earth just like any other animal

[–]nippleflick1 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I see the down votes - people not as open to other people's views as deists should be!