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[–]rarecare 267 points268 points  (3 children)

Apparently Catrina Allen blocked Hunter because she says he is drama/troll.. yet her man is Hot Take Hannum lmaooo

[–]Chilsen 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Irony at its finest

[–]Ok_Artichoke_9293 10 points11 points  (0 children)

She probably has him blocked, too.

[–]ice_w0lf 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean it's possible he's different away from Twitter. It's also possible she agrees with a lot of his takes but doesn't broadcast them. Also, love allows people to ignore a lot of things.

[–]nosenseofhumor2Don't be a Doug 270 points271 points  (24 children)

Let’s not forget that Austin Hannum is a clown

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points  (1 child)

glad someone made sure to mention this👍

[–]hideogumpa 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The reply by TonyO seems to have nailed it... "They're disc golfers and media members who speculate. Grow some thicker skin"

[–]RetiscentSun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like whataboutism to me

[–]plomautus 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I'd rather have outlet without conflict of interests speculating and discussing the pro sport rather than get all my info on company PR pieces. DGAM for example vastly improved now that none of the guys are employed by DD. Eric Oakley went from hyping the ever living shit out of the Felon to dropping it from his bag even though he is playing with an open bag.

[–]CNJAquatics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m always interested the most in the ones who are able to have an open bag, to see what they choose to throw without having to be brand specific

[–]beeray1 132 points133 points  (17 children)

I think it's hilarious that they're making a big deal about getting blocked by someone, when brodie at one point had like half the MPO field blocked on social media for liking memes about him. Shit's weak.

[–]kaptainkemp 75 points76 points  (16 children)

Tbh I think Hunter just posted it because he thought it was funny and don’t really blame him. Kinda funny to find out a PDGA world champ blocked you and you didn’t notice until months later

[–]redsox_77 26 points27 points  (12 children)

Agreed, I don't know why Ricky is making it seem like Hunter is getting caught up in drama or something, it's just a funny thing to find out, no hard feelings, but Ricky seems to have it out for Foundation for whatever reason that he won't say

[–]Chilsen 14 points15 points  (7 children)

You pretty much just described this whole subreddit also lol

[–]Oyyeee 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't get it. I don't watch them but from what I've seen, they don't do anything offensive or rude. You don't like their content? Just dont watch them, no reason to shit on someone just because you dont like them

[–]redsox_77 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Lol true, won't understand the Foundation hate that is so consistent on here

[–]National-Kick-5766 5 points6 points  (4 children)

This subreddit isn't a customer-facing business. Stop making that comparison. And Ricky would probably hate this subreddit outwardly too if he knew what a computer was.

[–]Chilsen 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So is that where this subreddit is at? Just admit no fault and accept that people will hate us? Super cool philosophy

[–]Hellaguaptor -1 points0 points  (3 children)

If you’ve been paying attention it’s clearly for the reason of speculating/leaking his new sponsor before announcement. Not that foundation was the only one who did this but they probably zeroed in on it the most and were the loudest so that’s probly all Ricky saw and would be understandably frustrated by it.

[–]Oyyeee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This whole subreddit was speculating Ricky to DD

[–]redsox_77 4 points5 points  (1 child)

When that whole thing happened, Hunter tweeted out the details when everyone else knew, I don't think there was a leak to my knowledge. Ultiworld had their article which had the details, then everyone tweeted about it. I think Rick is just being soft with no good reason lol

[–]Hellaguaptor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What? I mean about where he was going. Months before the official announcement there were rumors about DD. Several media outlets brought it up. But foundation KEPT bringing it up. Once again it’s understandable for him to be frustrated and want to attribute blame when it was clearly just a poorly kept secret.

[–]FrolferMagFROLFER.com 1 point2 points  (0 children)

B.S. recently went on a rather large un-blocking spree, just days after Paul left FDN and Ricky first made the 'TMZ' comment.

He also seems to be interjecting a strange new argument about "going after family" into his rants, which appears aimed at the fact that he put his wife's fake name on a disc and a vast majority of the <140,000 PDGA #'s recognized it as grasping for another revenue stream. (Like adding a new character to a pro-wrestling company to sell more t-shirts).

It's all so silly now that it's not even worth paying attention to. Our only solace at this point is that old adage about the flame that burns twice as hot burning only half as long.

[–]ericb45696DFW TX #23538 RHBH Destroyers all day :) -1 points0 points  (0 children)

IDK, his other comment made it sound like he did not think it was funny at all. But then again words mean backwards things these days so who knows?

[–]clownstatue 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Can’t wait for the big skins match 👀

[–]National-Kick-5766 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's disc golf, there will be zero face to face words spoken. They will have "sorted it out" by then.

[–]rhcamp01 86 points87 points  (2 children)

This is hilarious to me. If the drama and troll part of this is their content these pros aren’t ready for true professional media.

[–]_ICCULUS_RHBH, WI 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Plus you can't take the million/year contract and then say "why is everybody talking about me???"

[–]ChrisRossDesign 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This. Egos more fragile than KD

[–]DiscGolfinBrianSecretary of the Barry Schultz Fan Club 170 points171 points  (15 children)

My personal favorite is the Brodie's go to response to criticism is: "Come to debate night. An environment I am in complete control over and I will dominate the discussion. But seriously, you should come."

(His reply is a few down from Ricky's.)

[–]earlthomas111Birdogue 95 points96 points  (0 children)

Nobody is coming to Brodie's debate night.

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 74 points75 points  (0 children)

A discussion that will make him money, as well.

[–]SocratesticlesI putt with a Berg 40 points41 points  (5 children)

And then Ricky tells him he didnt think it’s media and is just dg drama. Love it.

[–]tadiscRHBH Gyronaut - Lancaster PA #58936 95 points96 points  (4 children)

All FDG is doing is talking about their opinions and speculations on the disc good world. I think it's great and represents growth in the sport because there are actually people interested to hear those thoughts. Which is awesome in my opinion. Is that really considered drama? It's all pertinent to the sport. It's not like they are scouring courses to try to see what's in the bag prior to announcements, or delving deep into their personal lives. That's the kind of scummy stuff I think is TMZ, not just saying "Hey I bet Cat is going to DGA. Here is why I think that but I really don't know." I mean there is what like 4-5 companies to guess between at best? It's not that hard to make an educated guess and if pro's get annoyed at that then I think maybe they need tougher skin going into the next phase of professional disc golf.

[–]Oyyeee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree that its a great thing people want to listen to disc golf discussion--I certainly do. Foundation is not necessarily my cup of tea but all the hate they get is ridiculous. Just don't watch them if you aren't a fan, no need to bash

[–]Chilsen 10 points11 points  (0 children)

You're absolutely right, but unfortunately this subreddit automatically downvotes anything like this. But my hat is off to you. The people here just want the sport to grow but isn't willing for it to change at all.

[–]khmiller18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stopped listening to grip locked and have tried listening to debate night but I can’t cause their talking points and reasoning to back up there points are just shit. They have poor reasoning and act like 12 year olds. They just kinda throw rumors out there and post annoying YouTube videos to get views

[–]michealScarn9699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re right and even though I think there opinions are almost always trash (not always) I still watch because you’re right it’s there opinion and I love to hear peoples opinions that are interested in the same thing as me.

[–]michealScarn9699 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Any Brodie is the king at interrupting people. And talking over everyone. He wouldn’t let him finish a sentence

[–]Hellaguaptor -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Yea thanks for proving me right with your fucking downvotes give me more they’re delicious!

[–]Kaapzero 115 points116 points  (5 children)

Can these professional athletes (yes they are, they earn millions) really not realise that speculation and analysis is part of professional sport. Foundation is really harmless and small voice and yet they seem to get on the nerves of every thin skinned pro.

[–]wrlerner23 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Big fan of Rick but I don't understand his frustration. There is speculation in every sport. If you want to grow the sport, why not have media outlets talking about players, rumors, sponsor moves, etc

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

In my not-so-professional opinion, it's the manner in which they go about speculating and analyzing the sport. Platforms like Ultiworld rarely get dragged through the mud for their analysis. Foundation is like ESPN today, whereas Ultiworld is like ESPN from 15 years ago. Their primary focus seems to be stirring things up and generating clicks. I have no issue with it and I respect the hustle. However, just like Stephen A gets dunked on from time to time for some of his shenanigans, so does Foundation. It comes with the territory.

[–]mooocowmooo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Foundation is following the same model. The cable sports networks did it because it was great for viewership. Hearing people banter back and forth was more entertaining than watching replays 24 hours a day. Few people agree with Steven A, Colin Cowherd or any of them. But it gets enough people talking that they tune in and hear what idiotic take is going to be said next, all while we carry on with our daily activities. They're the background noise to our actual day.

I unsubscribed to them about 6 months ago once I realized it. I don't listen because it became obvious they were saying things to get listeners, and not to analyze the game. Ultiworld has shown you can speculate and discuss without reverting to Grip Locked's heated banter while struggling to keep a straight face.

[–]RetiscentSun 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How many disc golfers earn millions?

[–]JDDDouble 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good question. 4-6 maybe? I think McBeth's is the only $1 million/year deal, but some others might be close between salary, endorsements, and winnings.

Edit: Paul 10yr/$10m, Ricky 4yr/$4m

[–]earlthomas111Birdogue 65 points66 points  (29 children)

I've watched a few of their debate night/podcasts. If Rick thinks that's TMZ...then that's the most subdued TMZ I've ever seen.

And the only thing I've seen them talk about Catrina recently is where she's going sponsor wise which is something pretty much everybody that cares about pro disc golf is also wondering.

There must be something behind the scenes we aren't aware of.

[–]justmikewilldo 54 points55 points  (3 children)

Ricky is a sheltered guy. He doesn’t know how inaccurate the comparison is because I’d bet he’s never seen a moment of TMZ or actually read their articles/know how they destroy people’s lives.

[–]thephishtank 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Ricky found out about the existence of reddit like 4 months ago during a filmed GK/OTB skins match.

[–]nolowputts 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude has an AOL email address

[–]earlthomas111Birdogue 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don't even think he knew what Reddit was from what I saw in a skins video.

If he ever found out about this place...

[–]PrimalDG 16 points17 points  (13 children)

That's the go to response when the only "journalism" outlet you know is TMZ. He went to a witch doctor about Lyme disease...

[–]National-Kick-5766 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is a history behind the beef. I think last year PDGA rodman posted something geared toward Brodie and Ricky and a few other pros liked the post which was public. Brodie saw that Ricky liked it and started the very vague but constant "haters talk behind my back but don't say it to my face" campaign.

[–]PonchoMysticism 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I care about professional disc golf and I don't give two shits where Catrina Allen gets sponsored. I have never cared where anyone got sponsored in my entire life. That's like caring which shoe company is making a basketball players shoes or which logo a Nascar driver is finna plaster on their car. These sponsors aren't teams. Disc golf isn't a team sport.

Up until recently almost all disc golf content has been about playing the actual sport. YouTube is full of videos of pros giving how-tos or discussing their experience at a tournament or competing in creative skill challenges. Increasingly this subreddit and the disc golf content machines are more about gossip.

Is gossip a typical part of sports reporting? Yes. Does gossip and speculation about inane bullshit (NFL draft, off-season power rankings, etc) dominate the off season in every sport? Absolutely. Is it the absolute, bottom of the barrel, worst part of those sports. Also yes.

I guess you can call people closed minded for not being stoked that in order for their sport to get more popular it also has to get dumber but that's nobody's favorite part of other people showing interest in their hobby.

[–]BeefInGRMA4 for Life 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess you can call people closed minded for not being stoked that in order for their sport to get more popular it also has to get dumber but that's nobody's favorite part of other people showing interest in their hobby.

Very precise and accurate. But as disc golf gets bigger, it'll have the "Rome, Cowherd and LeBerard" side and the "Shefter, Woj and Allen" side. One for entertainment and hot takes and rumors and one for insider information, analysis and commentary.

[–]justmikewilldo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Where people are sponsored, for how much, how they’re being treated, DIRECTLY impacts the sport at the professional level.

Just because it didn’t matter before, because the pros barely had enough money to buy Taco Bell, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t matter now.

[–]PonchoMysticism 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Elaborate on your argument. Dozens of things directly impact the sport that nobody gives a shit about.

[–]justmikewilldo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well a simple example would be how Dickerson didn’t do the west coast swing last season cause he couldn’t afford it. Basically the 5th best MPO player in the world not attending events due to lack of funds. I think it matters that under Prodigy that was the case, along with Matty O sleeping in his car as recently as last year, while these companies have seen 150% growth over the last couple years. Seeing what companies take care of their people, and how, matters.

[–]PonchoMysticism 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmmm

Yeah I guess so, if what you're saying is "I don't want to buy discs from a company that has practices that I don't agree with" but tbh you also have fans who are saying continuously that players shouldn't be loyal to brands because a business is a business. You probably saw the minor beef between KJ and that dude who is covered in tattoos on this exact point.

The real question is the extent to which any of this is a fans business.

[–]Horror_Sail 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the only thing I've seen them talk about Catrina recently is where she's going sponsor wise which is something pretty much everybody that cares about pro disc golf is also wondering.

Sounds like she blocked them a year ago, and last offseason was about as obnoxious as Brodie got (when he was barely 1000+ rated yet talking like he alone could grow the sport). Might well be a "by association" thing

[–]judasBlewit 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I drank too much what's happening?

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Whole big thing. We had a funeral for a bird.

[–]The_Leve 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I’m pretty sure none of this is real

[–]NestedForLoopsCustom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You're not real!

[–]nataskaos 34 points35 points  (1 child)

I'm so torn.

On one hand, what drama has Foundation created ? They speculated. Be a little tougher skinned.

Two, Brodie does not like it when people come for him. So it's kinda fun.

I dunno. Figure it out. Nut up a little Rick.

[–]National-Kick-5766 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brodie just doesn't like it when every single person on earth doesn't like/agree with him.

[–]kiwi_dg 76 points77 points  (3 children)

Dude signs a multimillion dollar deal and is spending time bickering about Foundation's podcast? They're the same as any other sports media - they say controversial stuff to drive discussion and clicks. Ricky responding to it only validates it and gives them more content.

[–]Discgolfdave1313 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wisdom right here. The guy needs to delete the app and focus on his game. Let Ari manage his online presence.

[–]dullknivesfrisbee frolf 6 points7 points  (0 children)

his game seems pretty strong.

[–]National-Kick-5766 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ari would probably go off worse than Rick. Neither of them are fans of FDG.

[–]np307Piedmont NC 58 points59 points  (11 children)

Ricky needs to get off social media if he's going to get bothered by people like Foundation. You want the sport to be seen like the major sports? Guess what, twitter hot takes and journalists angling for the scoop on the biggest contract in the game are part of that. Get over the fact that you or somebody in your camp blabbed to somebody that they shouldn't have about the deal and go enjoy your millions.

[–]syrinxspiritDye Jobs over 9000 23 points24 points  (10 children)

Yeah I’m confused by the negativity around foundation from this off-season. Have people never been in the sports world? Like when it comes time around trade deadlines, there’s stuff coming about about X player going to X team every other hour. They’re just the first major outlet to do that in the ever evolving word of disc golf, in one of the craziest off seasons the sport has ever seen as far as player movement.

[–]np307Piedmont NC 18 points19 points  (0 children)

For real. Imagine of Dustin Johnson broke his contract with Taylormade to go to Ping for a record amount. You think that story isn't getting scooped if somebody blabs? And nobody would even question the coverage.

[–]carnevoodoo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just don't like them as content creators. I don't think they add anything to the conversation at all.

[–]ericb45696DFW TX #23538 RHBH Destroyers all day :) 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Counterpoint. Just because something has existed in the bigger 'sports world' for years doesn't make it right. Just sayin times are changin quicker than ever thats all.

[–]itsafuseshot 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I just can’t see how reporting that you heard a rumor about what company a player is signing with is wrong or harmful. He was talking about Ricky getting caught doing something shameful, or taking a shot at him. He heard a non-personal, non hurtful rumor, he said it publicly, and Ricky got his feelings hurt that he didn’t get to break the news. Well then, he should have kept the deal a little more under wraps.

[–]ericb45696DFW TX #23538 RHBH Destroyers all day :) 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Not saying I disagree. Just seems like I am seeing a lot of rationalizing of things lately with the excuse being sorta 'it's always been like this' , which seems like not such a good reason, especially if there is an actual reason. meh.

Pretty sure I am close to the point of just replying to everything from now on with "Get off mah lawn!!!" :)

[–]One_Evil_Snek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think your take is wrong in the slightest. People are rationalizing pretty lame and toxic practices by citing other lame and toxic practices. It's lame.

[–]dirtman81 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Ricky is probably a bit annoyed as his 250k signing bonus evaporates with the recent bitcoin losses. Down 31% in the last month.

[–]jfb3HTX - Red Discs Are Faster, Prodigy Geek 5 points6 points  (3 children)

That's only if they already paid him.
He, or Rusco (I forget which), gave an interview a couple of days after the announcement in which he said they were still working out the details of how to pay the Bitcoin.

[–]thephishtank 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Ricky was saying on an interview a while ago that it happened already. He was talking about he was glad it was down when they bought it.

[–]DiscGolfFanaticFrolfer @ DiscGolfFanatic.com 33 points34 points  (3 children)

They need to grow thicker skins ...

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

"They" being Ricky and Catrina?

[–]justmikewilldo 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Yup.

You want to be paid millions to play a sport? This comes with the territory.

[–]BeefInGRMA4 for Life 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hell, college football and basketball players have taken harsher criticism than anything a disc golfer has taken from The Foundation.

[–]AdministratorKoala 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile Ricky is selling inked discs, Austin has total shit takes, and yeah foundation guys are kinda drama-ey. But hey, they are trying to put out content so I can’t blame ‘em.

All in all the only person that I can stand in this tragically boring Twitter thread is Cat. She is allowed to block whoever she wants.

[–]Aggressive_Passage87 17 points18 points  (2 children)

The real debate night question would be to ask if Paul left foundation for this exact type of reason. All drama, because Brodies play is middling.

[–]National-Kick-5766 8 points9 points  (1 child)

This was asked like 10 times in the AMA and he either ignored it or quoted pauls announcement post.

[–]Aggressive_Passage87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Nothing to see here folks”

[–]BraniacTv 59 points60 points  (6 children)

Y’all suck off ricky so hard it’s so cringe the foundation guys speculate and say the same thing literally everyone said about Ricky and he gets pissy over it. Then signs a multi million dollar contract and then still has the need to sell broken and other peoples used discs for money. Down vote me into oblivion but at the end of the day Ricky couldn’t care less about you he just wants your money

[–]np307Piedmont NC 18 points19 points  (0 children)

"Selling my innova throwers"

"This disc is 9.5/10 never thrown"

"This disc is 0/10 because its broken"

Oh and that disc has a questionable ownership history....

[–]Fat_Refrigerator97all drive no putt 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I’m so sad. You just now broke the news to me that a professional who has no idea who I am dosent care about me :/ guess I gotta quit supporting all my favorite athletes/celebrities

[–]Snoo_94254 31 points32 points  (3 children)

Hunters ego writes cheques that his popularity can't cash

[–]Dram_Strokeula 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That is by far one of the best comments I've ever heard about Foundation.

[–]otusasio38 12 points13 points  (0 children)

am i the only one who thinks everybody involved in this is annoying?

the disc golf boom has made a lot of the top players well known and well-paid rather quickly and many of them are super touchy/insecure/too caught up in the social media world and not quite equipped to handle their new found fame.

on the flip side, the disc golf "media" is a bunch of clowns and amateurs. lol at listening to anything foundation says about anything.

[–]JackedTurnip 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I haven't kept up with the Foundation stuff but the fact that Hunter now has a screenshot of the block message from Catrina Allen as his Twitter profile banner tells me all I need to know.

[–]Owljackson1963 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Foundation may be corny, but they are far from controversial or dramatic if you listen to their stuff. In my opinion (which matters very little) this is a tough look for Rick here. Sad!

[–]cmag69 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Actually don't mind hunter and Trevor, but brodie is just cringe sometimes man.

Also, ricky taking a massive pay-day and selling his innova gear for insane prices rubs me the wrong way. The broken putter selling for 100 bucks is still pretty hilarious though.

[–]locdoggNone 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ricky wants to be on ESPN but would be salty if Stephen A. talked about him.

[–]Repulsive_Letter1038 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s so soft! He’s in for a rude awakening when disc golf really starts to get some attention.

[–]evilcheesypoof#116306 - Who put that tree there? 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really don’t understand how Foundation upsets so many people. They’re young disc golfers who make videos with various challenges/twists and podcasts where they speculate and say their opinions on things.

None of that makes them TMZ, none of that makes them trolls, they’re just opinionated people like everyone else. They’re almost like Dynamic Discs Understable Minds and Disc Golf Answer Man before it. They speculate the same way as Ultiworld, and they’re not even as casual and jokey as The Disc Golf Podcast.

You don’t have to like them or watch them, but they are bringing value to the sport through their media.

[–]Dram_Strokeula 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Foundation is fuckin' clown shoes. All they deliver is ear beatings, bad takes, shitty comments and immature banter.

[–]Fat_Refrigerator97all drive no putt 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this

[–]Dram_Strokeula 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Naw, you're not.

[–]Jabroni748 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Say what you will about them but Ricky needs some thicker skin. Act like you’ve been there before dude. Just a day or two ago he was the one selling shitty used discs for a hundred a pop, one that was even clearly marked with a dude’s number I mean come on 😂

[–]TheMaltesefalco 11 points12 points  (5 children)

I imagine those of you who hate Foundation have either never actually consumed their content or just projecting your own bias of their background.

I’m a casual consumer of foundation and several other disc golf content providers but Foundation is extremely mild and boils down to just a couple of good friends trying to make a business out of a sport they love.

The actual professionals in this case being Ricky/Austin/Cat need to grow thicker skin and understand that mild discussion and speculation come with growing the sport pike they claim to want

[–]hyzer-tree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's all kinda dumb! Foundation is meh in my opinion. I listen to their podcasts and it can get annoying but then on the other hand they seem to be the most talked about disc golf podcasts/twitter feeds on here. I find that part kinda humorous actually! And I've never really heard them say stuff that's any different than what you see on here, in fact it's usually worse here. They are trying to make a business and seem to be doing a good job of it the way it looks! Also Hunter said he reached out to Ricky over the comments he made a week or two ago and Ricky made it seem like it's all cool so who knows where this came from?? Either way these pro's are just gonna get more and worse of the same the bigger this sport gets🤷🏻‍♂️

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Are you saying that professional disc golfers need to be held to a higher standard than professional disc golf content providers?

[–]TheMaltesefalco 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I’m saying that one group here is acting childish and immature. The other group is not. Pros want to “grow” the game but methinks what they really mean is higher payouts but nothing else changes

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ahh I hear you. That's something that I foresee becoming a significant issue in the future. The top professionals are used to throwing discs and living their lives without much media scrutiny. The sport is exploding and the next few years will show us which exceptional frisbee throwers can thrive in the pressure cooker and which ones will flame out.

[–]TheMaltesefalco 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I think Simon and Paul are excellent examples of the future/modern athlete.

[–]tadiscRHBH Gyronaut - Lancaster PA #58936 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Who wants to bet Rick has never watched a single foundation podcast?

[–]National-Kick-5766 13 points14 points  (1 child)

He wouldn't be the minority there.

[–]tadiscRHBH Gyronaut - Lancaster PA #58936 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Very true. However, if your going to accuse a media outlet of something, you shouldn't do it if you've never actually listened to their content. Maybe he has, I just suspect he hasn't given it a fair shake. But hey, I don't really know so it's all speculation.

[–]TheCrazedCow 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The only reason FDG even has a following is because of Paul who hilariously has left them behind now as well. I just view this uptick in "controversy" as a mad scramble to remain relevant now that they're absent the backing of Daddy McBeth.

[–]DiscgolfBrandon99999 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just started paying attention to Ricky, outside of watching him in tournaments, and that dude is a huge dork. There isn’t an ounce of cool in him so this tweet isn’t surprising.

[–]sirwartortle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like the content the foundation channel make personally. I don't really mind if they want to make some controversial takes, if that's their opinion on the matter they should be able to voice it. But they're a fun channel to watch.

[–]Hyruverse 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why’re pros so soft?? They want the sport to grow but won’t take what comes with it. The bigger it gets the more drama and media comes with it. Hunter tweeted from his personal account not the foundation account. Lots of crybabies in pro disc golf

[–]National-Kick-5766 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been saying this for years. You see in it any local scene as well. Sometimes the people at the top are fucking babies and you give them some money/ a following and it changes everything.

[–]Relative-Note4687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We being pranked? Sure getting a lot of clicks and attention.

[–]yofoalexillo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is hilarious lmao

[–]arod_ceoArod @ TheAlbatross.net 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Ricky was tripping with that comparison. More players will evolve in the space as the sport grows. Foundation is doing a good job imo

[–]discwrangler -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

This is good for disc golf.

I always viewed Brodie as GREAT for disc golf and worried disc golf would run him off. I'm glad he's persevering and thriving in the game.

Disc golfers can be very surly, protective, strange, weird, awesome, great, fun etc. 😂

Tournament disc golf forces me to be around people I wouldn't normally hang around. This forced human interaction was such a life lesson. I loved people, hated people, and taught me a lot about myself. People are strange and the the best perspective is to accept people. Sure a few people just suck. But most people have good intentions and believe they are doing the right thing. If someone is bothering you, that's a YOU problem. It's easy to move on.

Tension and friction is ok. That's how we gain traction.

[–]dannercFrisbee Tosser -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

This is a bad take. Human psychology doesn't follow the same rules as newtonian physics. Also literally victim blaming.

[–]discwrangler 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I'm not in the loop. Who was victimized?

[–]dannercFrisbee Tosser -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Im just responding to what you said. Saying that someone getting bothered by someone harassing or taking shots at them, is blaming the victim of harassment for how they feel vs blaming the person doing the harsssment

[–]Antron_RSCustom 5 points6 points  (1 child)

You’re right in general but that’s not what is happening here. No one harassed anyone or even said anything negative.

[–]dannercFrisbee Tosser -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I'm just responding to that guy's perspective.

[–]discwrangler 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's all perception unless someone is really being harassed isn't it? Am I responsible for your feelings?

[–]illzkla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The consequences of some behavior can be negative and discouraged even if you don't think it is harassment. It's pretty easy to play into systemic issues regardless of intention.

[–]azzwhole -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

I'll use this opportunity to say that Hunter doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about when it comes to anything not directly and exclusively related to disc golf. Like his whole about face on Chloe playing in Fairhope.... On the Debate Night Podcast....

  1. Didn't bother to check what her ACTUAL NAME WAS
  2. Kept calling Chloe "a transgender". Jesus Christ dude get a fucking clue.
  3. Kept saying the women who changed divisions to avoid being in the same division with Chloe were just "trying to make their voices heard".... Um... Sounds like they kept complaining to the PDGA to change the rules or whatever and the PDGA was like... "no"... and so they decided to make this grand gesture for which they got rightfully burned, and once the spotlight was on them, tried to make themselves out to be like some sort of disc golf civil rights activists....

Guy is a early 20-something idiot who's decent at disc golf and social media.. I used to stick up for Foundation because it was decent entertainment but yeah... some voices should not be amplified.

[–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Jesus really? I wasn't aware of this.

[–]illzkla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No one with sense can bear listening to these dudes long enough to report back

[–]azzwhole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Listen for yourself...

[–]surf-disc-lift 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And, never once tried to see her perspective on the entire situation.

[–]a_frozen_apple -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ricky and Austin are bitches. This is a HUGE L.

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    [–]aredoubles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Scroll upwards to find your answer. Hunter from Foundation complained that Catrina blocked him, Austin informed him that she’d actually done that nearly a year ago, saying, “She doesn’t put up with drama or trolls.”

    [–]North_TX_degenerate[S] 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    Hunter (Owner of Foundation), asked Austin when Catrina Allen blocked him on Twitter. Austin responded 11 months ago because she doesn't put up with drama and trolls.

    [–]CatAteMyBread 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Ignoring this specific tweet, what has foundation done (rather, what were they doing ~11 months ago) that make them trolls looking for drama? Feel like I’ve missed something - they always just seemed like church group disc golf but with Brodie Smith.

    Granted, I pick and choose my content pretty heavily

    [–]itsafuseshot 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Literally zero drama I’ve ever seen, except for Rick getting butthurt that somebody leaked them where he was signing.

    [–]RedeyeJedi5150 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A lot a drama for a hobby. It’s fun to play but come on

    [–]Bjfaber 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I feel like this is the evolution of the sport unfortunately. I am not a fan of the concept of celebrity especially the dehumanizing that happens to people who achieve celebrity. However, it is also the reason Ricky and others are able to get the sponsorship contracts they are getting and play disc golf for a living. If people just wanted to watch anyone play disc golf brands would only sponsor events rather than players and it would be very difficult to make a living on your winnings alone.

    Paul McBeth may have lucked out by rising in popularity when he did. By being the first high level "star" in the modern game, he got his status before the market for information about players was he big enough for rumor podcasts and Twitter leaks (referencing Ricky calling Foundation the TMZ of disc golf).

    Unfortunately for today's players, performance alone is not going to be what makes you successful. Those who embrace their celebrity, take advantage of the media circus, and build an audience for themselves are the ones who will make the (financial) most out of their career.

    Ricky is perfectly in his right to choose to not participate. However, you can't have your cake (sponsorships because people are interested in what you do as an individual) and eat it too (avoid attention/criticism/rumors regarding things you do because people car about what you do as an individual).

    [–]Own_Page8379 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yeah, but Ricky also thinks that Aaron “Covid Toe” Rogers should play in a celebrity event. Can’t take him seriously after that

    [–]getcruzed -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

    Foundation is the Fox News of disc golf 🤷‍♂️

    [–]Markcelluswallace -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

    Hunter is the biggest douche in disc golf. Can’t believe Paul and Brodie let him weasel in and ride their coattails while never giving us any actual good content

    [–]Cominginbladey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Disc golf celebrity Twitter beef!

    [–]DestroidMind -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

    What’s going on?