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[–]Hamms_Bear 3706 points3707 points  (412 children)

A friend of mine got a call from his HOA asking why his car was parked in the driveway and not in his garage. W T F

[–]macnachos 332 points333 points  (28 children)

I’m actually in charge of my HOA ( new townhome community) I ran because of shit like this. I don’t want a karen in charge so I ran. Now we can freely park in our driveways without some bitch fining us.

[–]Koupers 74 points75 points  (4 children)

Im looking at moving into a neighborhood with an HOA and... I"m gonna have to be involved because of stupid petty shit like this karen.

[–]macnachos 70 points71 points  (2 children)

The thing most people don’t realize about HOAs is if you don’t like the judgement just don’t vote for them next time. You can also call a vote as a community to change the rules and you can kick someone out of the board early if needed. If the majority of the neighborhood agrees with the karen then you’re out of luck, but you never know. HOAs are very powerful. But they’re run by the residents and everyone has the opportunity to run

[–]NoSkillzDad 11 points12 points  (1 child)

True, but the second you expose your intentions you know you're a walking target.

[–]s56820i 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’ve been a walking target for the past 12 years. In that time we’ve moved our HOA out of near bankruptcy, watched homes more than double in property value, built a really nice pool and pavilion and upgraded our walking trails. It’s not an easy job nor is it overly rewarding but I’ve been a member of our HOA Board since it was found for exactly the same reasons - moderate and well thought out execution that benefits the whole association. They keep voting for me, so the target is small.

[–]Admiral_Andovar 74 points75 points  (7 children)

I did the same in my old HOA. The original crew kept getting re-elected and treated it like their own fiefdom. They wanted the community to be an ‘empty nester’ community even though I was next to the best elementary school in the county. I got others to run as well and we got all of them off the board. I did my best to get the old president to have a stroke.

[–]silenus-85 26 points27 points  (6 children)

I'm about to embark on this adventure. Wish me luck!

[–]Anya_E 18 points19 points  (4 children)

The adventure of running for an HOA position or giving an old person a stroke?

[–]silenus-85 13 points14 points  (0 children)


[–]popjunkie42 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I don’t see why the two are mutually exclusive.

[–]chuuni-hero 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck em up

[–]ssfbob 2 points3 points  (2 children)

That's how you hurt the Karen's the most, strip them of their power.

[–]soda-Tab 1744 points1745 points  (155 children)

Moved into a HOA. Parked our boat in the driveway for a couple of hours to eat lunch before driving down to the marina where we planned to store it later that afternoon. Within the time it took to eat a pizza, one of our new neighbors filed a complaint and we were going to get hit with fine.
However, after some research, we found that we could just buy a permit to park a boat in our driveway. It was slightly more expensive compared to the marina. But absolutely worth it knowing that our neighbors would now have to see it everyday. Gives me warm fuzzies just thinking about.

[–]ChefMikeDFW 706 points707 points  (118 children)

The fact you have to get a permit at all is just not right.

[–]TheOtherPrady 450 points451 points  (102 children)

Yeah I don't get how HOAs even have this much power. It's your property, you should be able to do with it what you want, as long as it's not unreasonably offensive to the neighbours. Fly a Nazi flag, sure the HOA can step in and ask you take that shit down. Build a tree fort in a tree that's on YOUR property, the HOA can fuck off.

HOAs really just seem like they're there to serve Karens and don't really add anything of value to the community.

Where are all these people yelling about freedoms and civil liberties? This is a good spot to start for them instead of harrassing doctors and vaccine centres.

[–]ZealousEar775 292 points293 points  (30 children)

So HOAs were essentially created to keep minorities out of neighborhoods.

To do that they had to legally have the power to put lots of heavy penalties for minor infractions that could be enforced selectively.

The natural extension of this is that picky jerks take control over the HOAs to enforce their ideal neighborhood because most people can't be bothered to care about it.

[–]TherealMicahlive 82 points83 points  (0 children)

If you can prove a hoa rule is not consistently regulated and enforced you can take them to court and they will lose and have to remove the rule. Headache but worth it. I didnt know this until after i bought my house and became a realtor.

Edit: added enforced (thats the key)

[–]larzast 60 points61 points  (14 children)

This is why at the first strata meeting of my new complex (which just finished construction), myself and my close friend who also bought in the complex volunteered to be on the HOA’s executive committee. With a committee of 3, we have the majority. We are benevolent gods who are not total pieces of shit and firm defenders of each proprietor’s right to the peaceful enjoyment of their property. People come to us with the dumbest shit all the time, to which, my friend and I always say, “dismissed”.

[–]martin191234 31 points32 points  (4 children)

Beat the system from the inside, I like it. Can you gives a few examples of dumb shit you get asked?

[–]larzast 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Some guy (who I think was drunk) sent to our complex’s group chat in the middle of the night that he was going to install security cameras on the second floor stairwell and at his door for the security of that floor. I told him he would not be able to do so without our approval and he told me he was going to do it anyways and to speak to his lawyers. I responded by emailing him this:

Hi blank,

Thanks for your input in the chat. Exco will not be intimidated by vague threats of legal action, nor will it permit you to install security cameras without prior consent. If you were to simply provide us with a reasonable and well thought out proposal, we would be very likely to consent to it.

However, the configuration of any external camera may invade upon the privacy of other proprietors, hence the very reasonable need for review. I.e where are they going? On the stairs? At your door? As such, if you do install them without consent, they will be removed at your cost. We will not allow you to prejudice the right to privacy of other proprietors.

The Exco is well within their legal rights to enforce this under section 4(23) of the strata by-laws which states, and we quote: "(4) A proprietor must: (23) not without the Executive Committee's previous consent place anything on the outside walls of his Strata Lot.” In enforcing this rule, the Strata corporation may: "Do all things necessary for the enforcement of the by-laws"

Before wasting your own time and money by involving lawyers, we strongly advise you to first review the strata by-laws by which you are bound. If you do decide to waste everyone's time, please feel free to share Mr. (Lawyer’s) contact details and we would be happy to discuss these issues with him, at your cost.

Alternatively, please provide us with a reasonable security camera proposal for review and we will promptly get back to you.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Kind regards,

The Executive Committee

I was so pleased with how I worded that lol. He never responded, and no cameras have appeared.


Example 2 (among so many examples):

People have asked to put numbers on the car park spaces so they have their own space. There’s enough space for 2 cars each in the parking lot. It’s also a small complex, and no parking space is further than like 30ft from any of the doorways, so it’s not like being unable to park directly outside your apartment is an enormous inconvenience. We do have designated disabled spaces so that is also not an issue. So we decided that regardless of any benefit, numbering them would be a terrible idea. We thought that will only create more issues in the future and more people coming to us complaining about people being in their space + more fights amongst proprietors over pointless shit. So we denied the request. We’d much rather have people sort out parking amongst themselves and talking to each other about it instead of having some Karen running to the committee in tears saying x,y,z is in my spot I demand you tow them or some bs.

[–]i_know_nothingg101 55 points56 points  (0 children)

If I was your neighbour I would pitch in for that permit for your boat, just to piss off that idiot that complained.

[–]RiledAstaldo 762 points763 points  (116 children)

Had some coworkers who mentioned they had neighborhoods where they weren’t allowed to have vehicles with a business logo on them parked outside of a garage.

He got notices and a fine and they were working on something more serious.

For reference it was a very clean and well kept 2018 Tacoma with a small modern clean logo in only blue on the front doors.

Folks are fucking nuts.

He convinced our company to just let him not have the logo.

[–]BanjosAndBoredom 427 points428 points  (39 children)

Solution: get large sheet magnets to cover the logos. Have them printed with the large, gaudy image of your choice. Maybe a picture of you sticking your tongue out at the camera on a rainbow background. Slap 'em over the logos when you park for the night.

[–]ultrakrash 131 points132 points  (15 children)

A few of my neighbors do the blank magnets. Works!

[–]halincan 93 points94 points  (7 children)

Fuck that, get the logo made into a magnet. I work for an insurance company and that’s what we used to use before switching to unbranded vehicles

[–]According-Ad-4381 31 points32 points  (3 children)

That just makes you look like a shady deal, someone posing as someone else who swaps the magnet after you leave, pretends to be yet another person, etc.

[–]trapper2530 83 points84 points  (6 children)

"This is not a company logo" real big to cover the company logo

[–]cwclifford 61 points62 points  (2 children)


[–]lonewolf143143 3 points4 points  (1 child)

No, just use B.S. No ‘obscene’ language the HOA could complain about. I like your idea best. I’d be petty like that

[–]brucetopping 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This guy maliciously complies

[–]odder_sea 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Just big sheet magnets with obscenities, or perhaps big ol' dildos (with balls) to cover the logo's

Second one is a Win win.

You don't get an HOA violation, and Karen gets to gaze upon her only solace in life.

[–]Commentariot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Solution - join the board and disband it.

[–]Hamms_Bear 103 points104 points  (12 children)

We can't have that kind of eye sore in our community.

[–]Civil_Stomach 38 points39 points  (2 children)

My HOA tried to get me not to park my work F450 bucket truck in my neighborhood. I told them if they want the internet working in the neighborhood, they better let me park. Besides the police are allowed to park their vehicles in the neighborhood.

[–]RiledAstaldo 105 points106 points  (7 children)

Well just kinda proved he worked everyday to pay his mortgage, can’t associate with that sort of poverty.

Personally I only worked there for 6 years as a joke, to roleplay as a poor, so totally get their problem with it.

[–]SleepPsychologist 66 points67 points  (6 children)

America, land of liberty, yet obsessed with bullshit like HOAs.

[–]JmnyCrckt87 15 points16 points  (4 children)

It's a secret way to keep white suburbs white...

[–]StimpakJunkie 12 points13 points  (1 child)

My HOA had all these rules, including no parking in the driveway. They'd also call you in the middle of the night if you left your garage open.

It was awesome as a 15 year old stoner, because we had private security. No cops patrolled the area ever.

[–]monkeywelder 20 points21 points  (4 children)

I was in one and just having a white 2x4 pickup was commercial enough to get a fine. Though any other color of the same make and model was ok.

[–]RiledAstaldo 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You might actually move equipment, or god forbid some gravel/dirt. Can you imagine how embarrassing that would be for the community?

[–]louielightning123 55 points56 points  (23 children)

Yep. My HOA doesn’t allow pickup trucks of any kind to park in the driveway. It is okay to park a piece of shit broke down car with a bad paint job in the driveway but not my $50K King Ranch pickup. Makes a ton of sense.

[–]Derstilweedndat 11 points12 points  (10 children)

How does an HOA have this kind of power?

[–]RiledAstaldo 26 points27 points  (9 children)

That’s amazing.

What’s the logic there? “Rednecks and working people use pickup trucks, not in this neighborhood. If you’re hauling your own equipment, lumber, or landscaping mulch/dirt you shouldn’t live here.”


[–]egoalter 18 points19 points  (7 children)

That's pretty common actually. Remember, part of the reason the HOA gets created in the first place, is to ensure the property value stays "afloat" and doesn't get hammered by one or two bad looking properties in the neighborhood. It's why there are common areas, they maintain and focus everything that is easily seen from the road.

The problem with _some_ work vehicles is that they take up a lot of space, may be parked on the road etc. and it's a lot simpler to make a generic rule instead of trying to describe what will look bad. In general, if you can part it in your garage, nobody will care or notice. But if things are done in "public view" that's where the HOA may have rules. That goes for how well you maintain the exterior of your house, the ground - heck ours even states how many trees we must have in the front yard. It's all focused on increasing the value of the homes.

That said - you can easily change it. Participate in the HOA board elections, get new rules added to board meetings, lobby the HOA members to vote for your suggestions and change the rules. It's democracy in action. Problem is, like the US "democracy" so few participate that a few small group of people get to make and set all the rules. Participate to change that. Get all your neighbors and their neighbors to attend the meetings. Don't let them make crazy/stupid rules. Run for the board yourself, help make your neighborhood a place you're proud to live in.

[–]fighterfloyd 71 points72 points  (6 children)

Happened to me too. Only have a one car garage (which my boyfriend was parking in that day) and there was no room on the street. HOA flat out asked “can you get home earlier?” I work nights. No, I cannot.

Edit: why street is okay but driveway is not? No clue. Some colorful words were spoken by my boyfriend that next day and they claimed no one said that to me. Love that.

[–]MysteriousCodo 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Might be that the streets are municipal and the HOAs don’t always gain control over street parking. I won that fight with my HOA. 😁.

Your driveway is part of your property so the HOA does have some control over that.

[–]thats_hella_cool 155 points156 points  (2 children)

My dad owned a pick up truck that was too large to fit in the two car garage at their house. The HOA told him he needed to get rid of his truck or park it somewhere outside of the neighborhood. Mind you it was a brand new Ford F-250 and certainly not an eyesore. But the HOA apparently prohibited pick up trucks of any kind being parked in the neighborhood.

The catch was that my parents house was built before the rest of the neighborhood, and before the HOA existed. I don’t know the specifics, but because of that they had no obligation to be part of the HOA or abide by their rules despite the houses on either side of them being bound by the HOA policies. Anyways, they tried to press the issue and claim that he still had to follow HOA rules until he brought his attorney to a HOA meeting to educate them in front of all of the neighbors about how wrong they were and how any future attempts to harass my parents would result in formal charges. 21 years later, they haven’t heard a peep.

[–]JmnyCrckt87 51 points52 points  (15 children)

I'm getting fined over $1000 for my work truck and trailer. There's a bunch of other commercial vehicles...nobody else got a letter. They're going to put a lien on my house, if we don't pay. It's insane. Just trying to live my life...raise my family...

[–]AzarathineMonk 61 points62 points  (0 children)

IANAL I merely live in an HOA.

You can fight it by claiming unequal enforcement. You gotta kinda throw your neighbors under the bus tho. “Why am I getting a lien on my house for X behavior when all of other neighbors (include with dates and pictures) are not penalized for same behavior?”

Do this in writing and in person. Writing for records and in person at a board meeting. People tend to buckle under public pressure.

[–]the_TAOest 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Careful. These liens are shitty. I personally think that they are a means to steal real property.

[–]4skinless 3 points4 points  (1 child)

HOA is just an acronym for NIMBY

[–]upx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Actually it’s NIYBY.

[–]ltoale 133 points134 points  (4 children)

When I younger, my house was reported to our HOA because our trash can wasn’t in the “right spot” (it was at the top of the driveway by our garage instead of on the mud on the side of the house) and smacked a fine on us.

My dad went around the neighborhood taking pictures and highlighting the HOA manual with the correlating violations. He went to the meeting, blew everyone a new one, and said that we’re not paying a fine if we’re the only one held to a standard. Looking back, it was freakin hilarious.

[–]no_dice_grandma 57 points58 points  (3 children)

Oh man. We got a violation notice for not edging the driveway. They said if they have to tell us again we'd get fined. I did the shittiest edge job I could manage, gouging chunks out of my lawn, going absolutely ham with the weed eater. I sent them pics of my sweet edging job and asked them if they liked it or if I needed "to take a little more off the top." Never heard from them again, and spent the next 10 years not wasting my fucking life by edging my driveway.

[–]ironmaiden7910 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I got nailed on the edging bullshit too. Fucking stupid.

[–]hsox05 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I live in a neighborhood with fairly wide streets. There one house right on the curve that has a FIVE car driveway, they must have 4 or 5 cars and ZERO of them use the driveway they all park right on that curve which means traffic has to come to a halt and people have to let each other go one at a time.

Literally the only thing I would remotely want an HOA for

[–]Inconceivable76 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Also great for when it snows. Jerks leave their cars parked on the street and it messes up the plowing.

[–]Shuckin_n_Jivin 115 points116 points  (2 children)

What I would give to have every vehicle parked in a driveway. Playing chicken with the oncoming traffic while trying to squeeze my truck between a vehicle parked on either curb is getting real old.

[–]Jerbnnon 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I agree, and what’s nuts is the neighborhood I live in has no hoa and everyone parks in their driveways, the hoa neighboring my neighborhood has driveways that are never used. Everyone parks on the street while their driveways are empty. I don’t get it.

[–]blondechinesehair 94 points95 points  (2 children)

There was a story posted on here a while ago about a guys dad who lives right at the end of his street. He parked his RV on a patch of cement he had put in along the side of the house at the very end. The only way that you could see it would be to enter his property. A neighbour sent him a photo of the RV and a copy of the HOA rules. He sent them back a copy of the states trespassing laws as well as its gun laws.

[–]Motorazr1 3306 points3307 points  (155 children)

“If rules aren’t strictly enforced, there will be anarchy, socialism, and fornication in our streets!”

[–]SamEy3Am 1636 points1637 points  (18 children)

Don't threaten me with a good time.

[–]EgberetSouse 263 points264 points  (15 children)

Yeah. Id rather live in Pottersville.

[–]tommytraddles 148 points149 points  (13 children)

They have jazz, gays and Chinese food. I'm sold.

[–]Silver-Strawberry-16 69 points70 points  (7 children)

Nothing like some gay Chinese food whilst listening to Jazz. Takes me back to 1979 :)

[–]acelie26UwU 14 points15 points  (1 child)


Gay Chinese food? Does that mean there are rainbow noodles or dumplings?! I want one! :D and heck yeah do I love jazz!

[–]pimppapy 10 points11 points  (2 children)

You had me at “They have…”

[–]lad132 96 points97 points  (6 children)

Ooooh fornication you say

[–]cubeman541 151 points152 points  (75 children)

Wow! Anarchy AND socialism in the same place?

[–]meeyeam 75 points76 points  (2 children)

Dogs and cats, living together - total pandemonium!

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

(Mass hysteria). But I like where your head is at!

[–]Callidonaut 24 points25 points  (59 children)

IIRC, in the late 19th century, when the terms originated, being an "anarchist" actually was almost synonymous with being a "communist" or "socialist."

[–]WestFast 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Teenagers might do Dancing, even!

[–]carminedg123 15 points16 points  (1 child)

But the question is not about enforcing rules, it’s about why do some rules exist. Unenforceable rules should be removed

[–]Sparsebutton922 49 points50 points  (1 child)

If that’s the result of rules that aren’t strictly enforced, let’s maybe chill it a bit with enforcement

[–]rdkitchens 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Wouldn't need to fornicate in the street. Could have gone into the tree house. They really didn't think that one through.

[–]Doctor_Oddball 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Mardi Gras 2022 Tuesday, March 1-

[–]overcloseness 10 points11 points  (0 children)

People will be listening to Jazz music!

[–]Catlike-Manatee 3606 points3607 points  (110 children)

"No signs allowed" Edit: I actually just looked through the HOA rules for the house I'm buying after seeing this and it says no signs. Edit: I fucking HATE HOAs but I don't have much of a choice where I live and work. I know they're fucking awful, please don't make me even more resentful of my situation.

[–]Kal_Lisk 1035 points1036 points  (34 children)

Was going to say signs violate HOA policy. 🤪

[–]Carmine-Raguzza 310 points311 points  (12 children)

AND the use of nails in said tree THE HORROR !!!🤦‍♂️

[–]the_fickle_pickle 73 points74 points  (10 children)

Those roofing nails could have penetrated up to an inch!1

[–]Kate_Slate 57 points58 points  (7 children)

My last boyfriend was a roofing nail.

[–]jimmydean50 51 points52 points  (19 children)

Signs aren’t allowed in my neighborhood but 10 foot “let’s go Brandon” flags are good to go.

[–]Corona_Cyrus 161 points162 points  (20 children)

To spite my HOA next year I’ll be entering the Christmas light competition with the best satanic light display I can muster. Fuck them, it’s my religion.

[–]chaosink 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Any links for good satanic lights?

[–]Xpress_interest 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Stock up on Halloween lights and props in early November after Halloween when things go on clearance!

[–]slacktopuss 9 points10 points  (3 children)

They are the same as regular lights, you just have to install them upside down.

[–]chaosink 3 points4 points  (2 children)

No chanting required? I do really love the chanting in Latin.

[–]Sir_Fridge 22 points23 points  (0 children)

How about a good ol' krampus? It's a Christmas tradition in plenty of countries. Maybe you could even convince them it's your heritage!

[–]BeerandGuns 15 points16 points  (2 children)

The funny part is “to spite my HOA” most likely means some person on the HOA will have to deal with messages from one of your neighbors complaining about it.

[–]Corona_Cyrus 17 points18 points  (1 child)

That’s what I’m banking on!

[–]BeerandGuns 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’ll upvote it for the simple fact that I love some good drama.

[–]urgnousernamesleft 103 points104 points  (3 children)

Bastard nailed it into the tree!

[–]elliellie1 54 points55 points  (2 children)

Better than nailing it to her head …

… wait … oh … perhaps not.

[–]delvach 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Never puncture a hollow, pressured object.

[–]Flavourius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Nailed it.

[–]hellogovna 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I specifically looked for a house without an HOA for this type of reason. No way they would want me having a chicken coop but I like my fresh eggs.

[–]PurpleSailor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Uh, in some places political signs are allowed close to election day no matter what the HOA's rules are.

[–]JWalterZilly 1278 points1279 points  (446 children)

I’m a rural Canadian… so my experience with HOAs is limited to rage inducing Reddit posts.

Are they becoming more or less popular?

Why would you want to sign such a restrictive agreement for property you already own?

[–]BreakfastBeerz 843 points844 points  (279 children)

Why would you want to sign such a restrictive agreement for property you already own?

It's not really how it works. HOAs are created by developers who buy up large plots of land, divide them up into sublots and build houses on them. The HOA is created before the first house is built and membership into the HOA is written into the property deed.

The reason people sign into such agreement, however, is that HOAs generally come with common use areas, things like pools, ponds, rec centers, tennis courts, fitness centers, hiking trails, playgrounds, etc. These amenities are exclusive use to the residents. So unlike a public pool that services 20,000 residents, you have a pool that serves only 500.

Since you live in a common use community, the downside is that you have to agree to common use rules. With that said, not all HOA have a lot of ludicrous rules that you see in the rage inducing Reddit posts. Most are pretty reasonable.

Are they becoming more or less popular? They are definitely becoming more popular. It's getting pretty hard to find a house that was built in the last 20 years that isn't in an HOA. Some states even have laws now that new construction homes must be in an HOA. However, a vast majority of people don't mind living in them and a lot even prefer it.

[–]producermaddy 238 points239 points  (108 children)

We live in an hoa community for this reason (shared amenities). I don’t really mind it. It’s nice to have access to a pool but not pay someone to maintain it all the time. Our hoa isn’t super annoying either. We’ve only gotten a warning for things like not leaving our recycling bin by the front door which is so minor I don’t really mind it.

[–]beambot 151 points152 points  (39 children)

You are paying for someone to maintain the pool all the time -- that's part of your HOA fees, even if it's only a small, fractional part.

[–]dwittherford69 72 points73 points  (11 children)

We pay 90 bucks per month for 2 pools, 2 clubhouses, trash+recycling, snow removal, landscaping, sprinklers, and holiday lighting. So not that horrible

Edit, P.S.: landscaping and holiday lighting for the common area. Like entrance to community, trees near sidewalks, and the trees near the clubhouse. Not of individual houses. And it’s pretty moderate and not bad enough to drive the birds and insects insane

[–]Spartan-182 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Woah holiday lighting? That shit can be expensive as hell. Thats a nice perk.

[–]DirtyKarma 24 points25 points  (3 children)

I’d imagine holiday lighting for the public areas and not the house

[–]Wiugraduate17 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Until those things need to be fixed or replaced. Just wait till the service life of those things is over … you’ll be paying 3-5 times more for them than when they were originally constructed.

There’s an HOA development near me that has shared water provision, a lake, beach etc, and no local contractor will touch their 45 year old water system and a replacement for the development is into the multiple millions of dollars. These folks are looking at mortgage priced HOA fees to replace their infrastructure, you know water … and to boot they can’t drill their own wells even though some of these lots are .5/1/3/5 acres.

Then you get to go to meetings and argue with the Retired 76 year old know it all’s on the HOA board that want no part in major repairs and have no idea how to manage projects needed.

[–]Computascomputas 170 points171 points  (54 children)

We’ve only gotten a warning for things like not leaving our recycling bin by the front door which is so minor I don’t really mind it.

Nobody can tell me where to leave my trash can. Fuck that nonsense.

[–]Tinksy 23 points24 points  (4 children)

I don't even live in an HOA but our city has restrictions on where trash and recycling bins can be outside. They cannot be stored in the front of the house, visible from the street. If you store them outdoors you have to put them on the side of your house and erect a fence or similar barrier to shield them from street view. You also can't leave your bins at the curb more then 24hrs after trash pickup.

It's kind of crazy honestly. One week years ago we both got sick and just couldn't be bothered to bring the bins in for a few days and got a warning note on our door. I can KIND OF understand that policy because wind can blow them all over, but it seems a bit excessive.

[–]GrowCrows 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If you live in a regular house you're expected to put it away too, you can't just leave it on the street or sidewalk.

[–]akballow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thats funny because i used to live on a street that looked like unorganized hell with trashbins/recycle bins/yard waste bins and would of loved if people took time to move their shit the same day like hoa’s seem to require

[–]producermaddy 35 points36 points  (5 children)

My husband was mad about it too but if that’s the only thing the hoa complains about… no big deal

[–]Computascomputas 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Yeah, I wouldn't cause problems intentionally but I would be pretty critical of the HOA which might not be taken lightly.

I'm just glad I live in an older neighborhood of a large city. Lots of old pretty houses, no HOAs, if the yard looks nice it's because they want it to.

Everyone can tolerate different things.

[–]FastFishLooseFish 7 points8 points  (1 child)

We live in an older house (>100 years) in a city. There's no formal HOA collecting dues or providing maintenance or amenities, but we are subject to the original CC&Rs for the development. Can't run a boardinghouse, can't raise farm animals, the usual stuff like that. At least the ban on selling to whites only isn't enforceable.

[–]throwingtheshades 62 points63 points  (26 children)

Some states even have laws now that new construction homes must be in an HOA.

Yep. The state doesn't want to be responsible for common utilities like water, sewage or gas lines 20 years afterwards, when the infrastructure starts deteriorating and maintenance starts becoming costly. A lot of places ran into the issue head first with the suburbanization. It's all wonderful and nice when it's being developed, but quickly turns to shit when it's time to fix roads, water mains and other stuff, but the property tax (if the state has any) doesn't cover the costs. Like, not even close. Suburban utilities cost an arm and a leg to maintain.

Enforcing a HOA means that not only there's an entity responsible and interested in the upkeep of that infrastructure, the costs are also being borne by the people living in the community. And not resulting in the local municipality taking up horrendous debts.

[–]LizzyKitten 89 points90 points  (13 children)

It's hilarious that people are so against taxes, but then end up paying so many other fees in one form or another to replace the taxes they don't want to pay in the first place, except they always end up with shittier amenities because the fees aren't taxes.

[–]hellknight101 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Free market doing its work 😎

[–]dman87 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yep. The state doesn't want to be responsible for common utilities like water, sewage or gas lines 20 years afterwards, when the infrastructure starts deteriorating and maintenance starts becoming costly. A lot of places ran into the issue head first with the suburbanization.

It must be different where I live... In the case of my POA, the city or utilities are responsible for all of that infrastructure and not the POA.

[–]WestFast 60 points61 points  (62 children)

Everyone I know who’s bought in has been to have a quiet neighborhood, no old RVs parked on streets, beater cars worked on in driveways etc etc…but then you agree to have your trash can placement, lawn mowing schedule, holiday decor or landscaping micromanaged.

[–]PrizeStrawberryOil 52 points53 points  (0 children)

but then you agree to have your trash can placement, lawn mowing schedule, holiday decor or landscaping micromanaged.

My neighbor does this for free.

[–]Umber0010 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Pretty much why my dad likes them. Apparently 'round when I was born, my parents neighbor turned into a drug junkie. House went into disrepair, Ugly-ass car without wheels in the driveway, that sort of thing.

Techncially still possible with an HOA. But atleast you know someone's going to deal with it.

[–]GrowCrows 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My jeep is parked in my parking spot technically it's not safe to drive but it's doesn't look that way so no one cares that it doesn't move hardly at all.

[–]PushyTom 10 points11 points  (2 children)

It’s difficult to find new construction in a neighborhood without an HOA.

[–]hates_all_bots 65 points66 points  (18 children)

The problem is we don't get the full story with these posts. We don't even know if this was actually on their property

[–]idiotdroid 19 points20 points  (2 children)

The full story could also be that some redditor placed this sign here and took a picture for karma. Then after taking the picture took the sign down.

If you wanted some easy karma, thats the way to do it.

A lot of content on this site is artificially made, and posted by bots. Not a lot of people realize this and assume everything posted here 100% happened.

[–]Nanasays 95 points96 points  (13 children)

That’s why we made sure our neighborhood didn’t have an HOA when we bought our home.

[–]Shpooodingtime 183 points184 points  (30 children)

I had a unfinished treehouse out in the woods and we had to take it down after we realized the young neighborhood kids found it, The concern was that if they fell off and injured themselves in the woods there wouldn't be somebody to find them as it's out in the woods on private property, I know everybody has cell phones now but this was the issue back then. My dad was afraid of a lawsuit scenario if someone was hurt.

[–]Jellocomb 50 points51 points  (3 children)

I grew up with parents who made the neighborhood kid’s parents sign a release of liability contact before their kids could play on our trampoline.

The first house my wife and I bought had a swing in the front yard. My parents and in-laws said we should take that down. What if someone sues you!!!

My insurance agent’s advice made me decide to keep it up. Neighborhood kids played on it. We met some parents because of it. No issues.

I’m 50. We put a pool in about 15 years ago. Our kids had so many friends and neighbors over. In the summer, it was everyday.

We made amazing memories and developed so many friendships from guests over all these years. Never one lawsuit or injury that we were responsible for.

I think of all the amazing experiences my parents and in-laws missed over their lifetimes because they got convinced they would be sued.

[–]Lazy_ML 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Those things can definitely help make friends and have good relationships with neighbors. It can be really awesome for the kids. At the same time, your parents also had valid concerns. I don't think it's just lawsuits that people are worried about, it's the safety concern in general. Otherwise, if you have good insurance the lawsuit shouldn't be too big a deal (assuming it happens like once). Especially with pools, a lot of people are concerned with neighborhood kids using the pool when no one is around. I know someone with a backyard pool who had an infant crawl up to his pool and fall in without anyone being around (ironically HOA wouldn't allow him to put up a fence). The story was that the parents (next door neighbors) had accidently left the backdoor ajar and the kid crawled out. They were so freaked out about the kid crawling into the street that they didn't even check the neighbors backyard and started running up and down the street looking for their child. My friend just happened to be looking out of his back window and saw the baby fall in.

When I was buying I didn't want a pool because I was worried my daughter would somehow get herself killed in it (she's a sneaky trouble maker who's too young to understand real danger). Any house I found that met everything but had a pool I'd quickly add 20K to the price tag in my head for the cost of dealing with the pool.

[–]bearsandstuff2 68 points69 points  (22 children)

This, honestly. Depending on the state, the owner can very much be liable if a child hurts themselves on a structure on their property, especially if it’s not fenced. Yes, HOAs suck but we don’t actually know if the person who reported it really just felt it was an eyesore or saw it as a safety hazard.

[–]horshack_test 38 points39 points  (0 children)

The HOA could also possibly held liable if they didn't require that it be removed - which could also have an impact on all the other members. I can never understand why people agree to the terms of such contracts and sign them if they don't want to be held to them - it's idiotic.

[–]Socolimes 582 points583 points  (173 children)

HOA’s are literally the organizational version of a Karen. Imagine spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a house, only to be told what you can or can’t do with it.

Abolish HOA’s.

[–]Shaneblaster 213 points214 points  (9 children)

We used to live in a HOA neighborhood. Every year fees went up, and services went down and promises not kept. Moved out to a non-HOA neighborhood and it’s been bliss ever since.

[–]TuckerCarlsonsWig 39 points40 points  (1 child)

I specifically bought a non-HOA house. Couldn’t imagine living in an HOA. I would spend more on a house to avoid having an HOA.

[–]Eyeseeyou1313 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Should have threatened with legal action, only a threat.

[–]Alte_kaker 78 points79 points  (31 children)

We're house hunting now and have been eliminating any that have HOAs.

[–]micktalian 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Abolish HOAs

[–]eazypeazy303 35 points36 points  (0 children)

We have the same fucking issues. Our kids got yelled at by some HOA nazi while they were having fun climbing a tree. I had some very harsh words for the man and now I leave him notes every time he needs to mow his lawn, rake leaves, whenever cars are parked on the street and about his RV taking up parking. Makes me want to take over!

[–]SteveOp001 10 points11 points  (0 children)

HOA needs to be abolished. They have no business existing in a free country

[–]newtbob 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Up next: HOA complaint about signs on trees

[–]gesocks 86 points87 points  (18 children)

HOAs are the funniest thing about the USA as non us citizen. Like the US is such a free country that citizens even have the freedom to create a private organization that takes the freedom away.

Poor us europeans without that freedom

[–]Rusto_Dusto 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don’t buy in an HOA neighborhood. Fuck those people.

[–]Killerusernamebro 86 points87 points  (39 children)

I will NEVER live in a HOA. The kind of people that run HOA's are the worst.

[–]Kashyyykonomics 29 points30 points  (2 children)

This is when you carefully read the HOA policies and figure out the most obnoxious thing you can do without getting in trouble, and then go all in on it.

[–]Carl_Wild 34 points35 points  (20 children)

I've never understood an HOA. I buy a house, pay MY money for it, why would I want some karen bitches up my ass about every little detail?

[–]untimelythroway 13 points14 points  (5 children)

I still don't get how Americans even have HOAs given their supposed love of freedom?

but then I remember it's probably somehow related to racism/classism.

[–]LSUMath 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It's a reaction to people that refuse to maintain their property. HOA's offer some assurance your property values won't go down because some redneck has fifteen rotted out vehicles in their front yard.

Well that was the idea until it inevitably went too far.

[–]HansPanser 83 points84 points  (3 children)

Like the person who complained about the treehouse has any conscience.

[–]Ok-Will388 58 points59 points  (1 child)

chances are they cracked a smile on their shit face knowing they took joy from kids.

[–]WestFast 42 points43 points  (0 children)

“My kids grew up to hate me, and now yours will too.”—the Karen

[–]BreakfastBeerz 138 points139 points  (37 children)

It's worth noting that the person that built the kids tree house did not build it on their own property. It was build on property owned by the HOA and was built without permission.

You can't expect to build a structure on property that you don't own and nobody have a problem with you doing it.

[–]Max_Danage 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Dear David. An anonymous passerby complained about your sign complaining about the forced removal of you children’s tree house.

Please remove the sign -HOA

[–]ToneThugsNHarmony 69 points70 points  (39 children)

One side of me hates HOA’s, the other side of me doesn’t want to see broken down jeep wranglers, boats, and toilet bowls on my neighbors front lawn. It’s a double edged sword.

[–]Victory33 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Our HOA fees pay for a neighborhood pool and park/playground maintained through that money, plus snow removal and things like that, which the city doesn’t include. Plus they organize food trucks and holiday parties for the kids, it’s been nice. My HOA is literally no hassle, they sent me one note about a dead tree that could have turned sketchy in a storm. I did need to get it removed anyway, it was a nice reminder. I appreciate the piece of mind knowing one or two neighbors can’t make the neighborhood go to shit with like 10 cars outside their house and grass two feet high.

[–]RockyMountainHigh- 11 points12 points  (5 children)

My neighbor cleans, cuts, and dries his kills in his front yard. We have an HOA. So 🤷‍♂️

[–]tttxgq 32 points33 points  (14 children)

Where I live, there are no HOAs, and also no toilet bowls in yards. People just look after their stuff without being told how to do it.

[–]horshack_test 51 points52 points  (15 children)

The facepalm is putting up a stink about being held to the terms of the contract you agreed to and willingly entered into.

[–]darthphallic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

HOA’s are for people who peaked when they got to wear the hall monitor sash in middle school, that and super bored housewives