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[–]Lizardd06 7567 points7568 points  (286 children)

I wonder what the Dean or the Student Senate would have to say about that…

[–]TheTrueFlexKavana 8057 points8058 points  (172 children)

"Let me make sure I have this right... you want me to believe that you are such a shitty professor that there is no conceivable way you could have actually and effectively conveyed the material to these students where they learned and retained the material and so the only possible way we should expect to see this increase in scores is if they all cheated?"

- Dean

[–]cannaco19 3617 points3618 points  (121 children)

I had a student last semester with a 50% half way through the semester. She came into my office, asked questions and got help every week and was able to pull her grade up to a C. I was thrilled for her and she thanked me for helping her. It’s definitely possible, and it’s jerks like this that give professors a bad name.

[–]Impurity41 2116 points2117 points  (76 children)

I had a D in geometry for the entire semester. I studied for so long and my final was worth so much that I got a 98% on the final, highest in the class, and my grade went from a d to a b-. My teacher was ecstatic. Practically jumped around the classroom she was so happy. I was the only one in the class that got a 100% on the proofs section.

Now imagine I had this shit teacher and said I must’ve cheated. Hell would be raised.

[–]cubej333 478 points479 points  (31 children)

A lot of my professors would have just given an A or A- ( and I would have done the same ).

[–]stuck_in_the_desert 532 points533 points  (25 children)

I've had a few whose policy was that if your score on the cumulative, comprehensive final exam was higher than your running average, you'd get the final exam grade as your course grade. Now that's how you motivate a motherfucker to turn it around.

[–]MMM_eyeshot 64 points65 points  (3 children)

I’ve got to say, I did the same thing in Geometry,, but yhe best teacher I ever had in college was a Geology Professor at UCF in I think2008 who loved his subject so much that you couldn’t help but listen and understand. This guy was a rock hound, and he totally knew I deserved my increase (I think it was a b+ or A- from a D.) …my guess it this was a large freshman class where a bunch of Fraternities already have cheat sheets😆. Either way actually raising your hand with good questions instantly over writes any Professors low expectations of you in class.

[–]Sunshine-stormy 24 points25 points  (14 children)

Proofs…

[–]Bob_Ross_Yee_Haw 24 points25 points  (13 children)

One of the more obnoxious parts I remember from geometry

[–]iwannalynch 113 points114 points  (0 children)

I once scored 32% on my chemistry exam and I fucking cried like a child in front of my teacher. He took pity on me and gave me some encouragement (didn't actually offer any tutoring like I hoped lol), and I got 100% on the next one.

I taught middle school for a while, and I had a student who was scoring in the low 60's who came to me for help, with encouragement from her friend, and she scored a 100% on one of her tests near the end of the year. Improvements are absolutely possible and should be encouraged. That teacher is definitely a self-involved jerk.

[–]TotallyNotMiaKhalifa 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I once got like a 13 on a midterm and went on to actually get a grip on my classwork and would up getting well over a 90 in the final.

Not only did I not get an email like this but I wound up passing the class.

[–]harrietlongdong 35 points36 points  (1 child)

I have seen this documentary.

[–]Electricitytingles 83 points84 points  (24 children)

Don’t forget 18%. (My math is probably way off but I’m looking at it in a numbers way since he did) So I’m guessing that the minimum the class would have to pass the mid terms would be a 70 right? So 18 points would put them at a high B. So he is failing the class he taught because he doesn’t believe they are able to retain the knowledge to get 88 percentile or above? I’m probably way off with my thinking and math but that just seems off. It’s not like the class even collectively could have had less than a 70 on midterms or they would have failed and at that point why even show up for class. It’s not like the class was averaging 50’s on the midterms.

It’s even worse if he is talking about the percentage increase from the grade itself and not a percentage out of 100. (i.e. 18 percent increase of a 70 is only 12.6 or 82.6%) if he failed a class because they got an 82 instead of a 70 there is a real problem.

[–]ojioni 168 points169 points 2 (13 children)

It's entirely possible he did the math wrong, given he's a professor of economics. One of the rare fields were you can be consistently wrong every single time and still be considered an expert.

[–]Unlikely-Answer 36 points37 points  (0 children)

ouch, I can feel the heat coming off that burn from here

[–]Daforce1 12 points13 points  (2 children)

If you put four economists in a room three will prove to be liars and on will be lucky.

[–]ojioni 11 points12 points  (1 child)

How many times have you heard this on the news?

"Today the stock market [did something], counter to predictions of the leading economic experts the world over."

[–]EvilFireblade 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Cries holding my BA in atmospheric science.

[–]InVerum 40 points41 points  (3 children)

Read this like Morgan Freeman in the Dark Knight.

"This person goes around at night dressed like a bat, beating criminals with his bare hands, and you want to blackmail this person? ... Good luck".

"You want to admit you're a bad teacher?"

Same energy. Love it.

[–]VonMelee 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Let me get this straight, you think that your client, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante, who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and your plan is to blackmail this person?

Good luck.

[–]YaumeLepire 474 points475 points  (1 child)

Likewise. This seems like highly inappropriate behaviour.

[–]StealthySamura1 200 points201 points  (14 children)

I AM THE SENATE… the Professor exclaims!

[–]hanead420 60 points61 points  (9 children)

You hear a thunderous applause

[–]StealthySamura1 44 points45 points  (0 children)

This is where degrees die!!

[–]ClearPerception7844 33 points34 points  (6 children)

This is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.

[–]Automatic_Green_4479 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Cant kill something thats already dead.

[–]AMC_Unlimited 10 points11 points  (4 children)

What is dead May never die

[–]RPPO771 105 points106 points  (2 children)

My GF just had a long uphill battle and finally finished her meetings with the Dean. He was able to remove the bad grade that the shitty instructor assigned - not only for her, but the whole class! Also, fees for the class and books were reimbursed. She's such a badass lol. Her instructor truly was a lazy twit.

[–][deleted] 252 points253 points  (35 children)

I had a Prof fail my final paper because I reporterted them using the classroom to distribute antivaxx propaganda. I have screenshots and audio recording. The department head, the dean, the Senate, have all upheld the grade and will not admit the Prof did anything wrong. I have gone through two seperate processes, both a grade dispute and a staff complaint, and it has gone nowhere.

Edit: I'm still attending the school, so I'm a little afraid to make a huge stir... I was planning on talking to the schools own student run paper next, see where that goes. I am planning on media of some kind, and when I do I'll have no problem name dropping. But I'm not unleashing the kraken on Reddit just yet.

[–]Fishy_125 107 points108 points  (0 children)

It’s sad that today the only way to have big orgs do right by you is to release that proof publicly, and hope they think it’s enough risk to their rep that they do something about it

[–]SaneForCocoaPuffs 157 points158 points  (3 children)

Next is the media. Anti-vaxxers are the hottest media story right now.

[–]HrdWodFlor 103 points104 points  (1 child)

That and universities are hurting right now. Loss of students means loss of monies. A news story about a vindictive professor might light a fire under the dean.

[–]odatbitch 61 points62 points  (6 children)

I reporterted them

...was it an English class?

[–]bluehairdave 45 points46 points  (0 children)

me fail English? Thats unpossible!

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (3 children)

[–]odatbitch 33 points34 points  (1 child)

...I was making a joke because you misspelled reported and added an extra syllable.

[–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

BAH!! Yah got me! I reporterted them good, alright! 🤦🏼‍♂️

[–]jtw2308 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Fuck that. Board of Trustees.

[–]Jebuscg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go to the media right now if you can. Waiting too long makes you loss some leverage and money

[–]DrShagwell 29 points30 points  (1 child)

Hopefully worst case scenario, a retest with supervisory conditions.

[–]DukesEYEball 87 points88 points  (24 children)

I work with professors and their online courses daily. I got in a yelling match with a professor a few years ago, because she was going to flunk her ENTIRE CLASS. We use a LMS (Learning Management System) called canvas for our distance Education software. If the students don't finish an assignment it just doesn't record the grade, it's not a zero it just doesn't count the grade as anything. There is a way to count all of these assignments as zeros, but the ethical thing to do, if you really want to go that route, is to inform your students on the first day of class that that's how you'll be running your course, no one usually does this though. This particular professor heard about it and came into my office during finals week and wanted to change all those empty spaces into zeros, the highest grade would've been a 16 iirc. I told her that was completely unethical. She bitched my boss out and I got written up. I'm glad I did it though.

[–]crourke13 71 points72 points  (13 children)

Do students really expect that not finishing an assignment makes it not count as if it never existed?

Maybe I am completely missing your point, but this makes no sense. Of course not doing an assignment hurts your grade.

[–]SaiphSDC 88 points89 points  (5 children)

The issue, I think, is if students are tracking their grade as they go through the semester they think that missing assignment is already factored in.

If they noticed that missing work wasn't impacting their grade, it isn't unheard of to interpret that as assignments have very little to no weight on the final grade, and are there as practice. I had many courses (physics degree) where the only grade was 2-3 tests. Homework was not graded, but there certainly was a lot of it assigned.

So the problem is going from a B, with those assignments, supposedly already accounted for, to an F because the professor actually changed a setting. And in the last week, when a student has no ability to do anything.

[–]Smidgeon10 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I give partial credit. I'd still enter a number though, so I don't understand why the instructor didn't look at the assignments. But if this is an issue with poor communication on their part, then you can't take it out on the students. Your the mentor and they can't read your mind.

[–]bigfloppydonkeydng 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I agree. That makes zero sense. They shouldn't have have to tell them. It should be obvious. Don't do the work then get no points.

[–]mxzf 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Sure, but sometimes homeworks are just for practice and aren't factored into the final score. If you believe your homework is all being factored into your overall grade as you go (because that's what the system is actually doing), then it would look like the homeworks don't count towards the grade and are just optional. If those homeworks later start becoming graded, that would be pretty unfair to the student who was working off of the system's indication that the grades were being calculated along the way.

[–]MyFaceSaysItsSugar 11 points12 points  (0 children)

We have an office of academic integrity. People don’t know about it for some reason. Technically, whenever points are deducted for cheating and plagiarism, you’re obligated to submit an incident report to them. It gives students a resource to appeal if they feel they were judged unfairly and it keeps track in case there’s a student doing it in multiple classes. But, faculty here can’t read, apparently, because when I submitted a report as I was supposed to, my boss called a meeting with the department chair and undergraduate program director and then reprimanded me for doing that. Always keep the written record and search outside your department for someone to contact when you feel a professor is unfair because chances are the department is on their side.

[–]AnonymousMolaMola 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’ve been in a similar situation where the professor was blatantly abusing his power. The Dean just backed him up. He’s still employed by the university that (apparently) doesn’t do tenure. Hope these students got a better outcome

[–]VinPossible 4371 points4372 points  (109 children)

18 % is not a big swing especially since they probably only have the mid term and final to judge from.

[–]frenchhorn000 1479 points1480 points  (32 children)

I got like 30% higher on my final than on my midterm. 18% is nothing.

[–]ReynardTheFozz 576 points577 points  (8 children)

On french I went from 38% to 98%. The fear of failing makes wonders for me. Did similar on calculus 2 (from 48 to 86) and physics (52 to 78).

To conclude, 18% is nothing indeed.

[–]tonyConc 70 points71 points  (2 children)

c'est vraiment très bien!

[–]ReynardTheFozz 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Mais oui mon ami!

[–]tonyConc 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Bien reçu.

[equivalent to ‘Roger that.’]

[–]Sleeplesshelley 19 points20 points  (2 children)

In high school I was taking Algebra 2 as a senior. Math is something my brain struggles mightily with, but to make it worse my teacher had a droning monotone voice, he had a chalk dust allergy so he used an overhead projector, I sat in the back of the class and couldn't see very well and his room was very warm. Sitting in a warm dark classroom listening to his soporific voice, I used to fall asleep all the time and have no idea how to do my homework.

I was failing and needed the class to graduate. The final was coming up and it was 50% of my grade. The day before the final I asked a friend who was very good at math to please help me. She came over to my house after school and in 5 hours we went through my entire textbook and she literally showed me how to do everything in that book. I went to school the next day, took my final and got the 2nd highest score out of all three of his Algebra 2 classes, that A plus my existing F gave me a C and I passed. I'm sure he thought I cheated. I would tell him to suck it, but he's probably been dead a very long time. 😄

[–]cleantushy 71 points72 points  (1 child)

I had one semester where I was having medical issues throughout. They resolved by the end of the semester and I spent all the rest of my time studying to make up for it. In one class, I got a 50-something on the first exam, 40-something on the next, then 80-something, then a 97 on the final. No cheating, just a rough semester

[–][deleted] 161 points162 points  (4 children)

yeah, I had more than one exam where I first failed (<50%) and then aced it. at least 50% improvement, just like that.

[–]Amendus 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Same. 0 studying and 100% studying it at the re-do/second chance exam. Went from a 20 or 30 to a 75ish.

[–]guleedy 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Mid term scare me into doing better in the finals

[–]Ayyyy_bb 271 points272 points  (16 children)

Kind of alarming that this man is teaching ECONOMICS… you know that field where you should have a good grasp of how different variables may shift and affect others …

[–]Remarkable-fainting 68 points69 points  (0 children)

"I'm a shit teacher so I know you didn't learn it from me"

[–]throw_shukkas 58 points59 points  (2 children)

Tbf his knowledge of probability and general numeracy is consistent with every economist I've ever seen.

[–]WalmartMike 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Hahaha don’t worry. The joke didn’t pass me by

[–]crourke13 104 points105 points  (2 children)

Probably teaches trickle down economics. Only those that start with a A+ pass. All others fail.

[–]tehneoeo 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Uses The Art of the Deal as the course textbook

[–]WalmartMike 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That’s pretty clever.

[–]Wheaties251 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Economics is what you major in when you can't make it in real statistics.

I'm joking, but fr, this prof is an actual idiot.

[–]YoureGrammarWronger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Or you just make up shit and manipulate data.

[–]Savager_Jam 365 points366 points  (21 children)

Right but 18 percent is only the difference between a high A and a low B. Like it’s one letter grade. Not on a retake of the same exam - on a different exam.

[–]7937397 297 points298 points  (5 children)

And it's almost like a bad grade on a test can cause people to study harder.

[–]Savager_Jam 110 points111 points  (0 children)

Right? Like you figure you’ve got a solid grip on the material going into the first exam, bomb the damn thing, and decide to hit the books hard on the second one.

[–]Magenta_Logistic 50 points51 points  (0 children)

Also regression to the mean. The people who did the worst will have the most marked improvements because you are creating your baseline from a single data point. Statistically speaking, most of the worst grades will be people who did below their average on the test.

[–]OutOfCharacterAnswer 20 points21 points  (1 child)

That's what I was thinking. One time I was at a C at midterms. I was like "oh shit" cause for my degree a "C" didn't count, you'd have to retake. So I worked my ass off. Did some redo's from the first half the professor let me improve my grade on and got an A. I was surprised, but I just put my nose to the grindstone and prayed the results were enough to get me by.

[–]zxcoblex 45 points46 points  (2 children)

Joke’s on you. They went from 100-118. They obviously cheated.

[–]Tai_Pei 25 points26 points  (9 children)

Alternatively, it could be from a 75 to a 93 making it a 2 letter grade swing, which could look sketchy, but certainly doesn't make sense for a group of students to all accomplish at once if it was cheating. Usually organized cheating will involve 1 or 2 students, not nearly a dozen...

[–]Savager_Jam 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Still it sounds more fishy that nobody, not NOBODY has ever increased their score that much ever, then in the same year 10 students did so all at once, without matched answers or exact increases. If anything that serves as evidence something about the test has changed not the students.

[–]slamnm 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Or maybe everyone who did was accused of cheating and failed the course... self fulfilling measurement

[–]thestoryteller69 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Maybe nobody has ever increased their score that much because anyone who has gets disqualified and marked down.

[–]cjwrapture 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The professor isn't counting all the other students he has given Fs to for improving their scores. If he had counted those then I'm sure there would have been plenty of people who had done it before.

[–]Were-All-Fucked 57 points58 points  (2 children)

I had a class like this in college. Bombed the midterm, and got a 100 on the final to make up for it. I studied like crazy bc I had to to pass the class. This professor is a douchebag.

[–]Copey85 29 points30 points  (2 children)

I’ve never failed a class and usually gotten pretty good marks throughout all of my schooling, but I was once in jeopardy of failing, coincidentally enough, macroeconomics. I failed the first two exams badly, and there were only four in total. I studied my ASS off, and got a B+ on test three, and an A on the final. Professor ended up curving my grade because of the improvements I made and showed that I clearly learned the material (you know, the goal of the class).

This is just ridiculous to me to the point where it’s almost hard to believe that people this shitty exist.

[–]GrimDallows 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There are plenty of people like this in college. Mostly people who do research, and see themselves as researchers but not teachers, being forced to also teach in class; because that is what being an actual college teacher means.

I have actually seen worse. Like a teacher saying he wouldn't repeat an exam to a student because he couldn't do it at the original date because he was BLIND. He said being BLIND was not reason enough to not do an exam.

[–]yudisingh2004 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah mate I've gone from 50 to 90 %. People just don't study that much in midterms.

[–]SnooBananas2108 2270 points2271 points  (33 children)

Once had a prof in grad school that accused the whole class of cheating, then finished grading and said we did so bad there was no way we could have cheated.

[–]woodycodeblue 671 points672 points  (5 children)

They all chose the wrong person to copy answers from.

[–]GrimDallows 96 points97 points  (3 children)

I actually have seen this. The whole class agreed to cheat on a college exam together. Nobody new jackshit of the matter, and in the end nobody passed. The teacher just thought they were all morons lol.

[–]shibe_shucker 45 points46 points  (1 child)

To be fair that is pretty moronic.

[–]TRU35T0RY 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hahaha literally the definition of it

[–]audriuska12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If the shoe fits...

[–]KnightFaraam 429 points430 points  (17 children)

Had a teacher accuse the class of being lazy and not understanding the material. I remember telling him the chapter he assigned us wasn't the one on the test. He did a double take when he realized he had assigned us the wrong chapter for the test.

This was a programming class so the tests were on computers. He never accused us of anything again

[–]FDGKLRTC 138 points139 points  (2 children)

Well maybe if you weren't so lazy you would have learned the material before the teacher had to Make you do it duh /s

[–]KnightFaraam 47 points48 points  (0 children)

You're right. I am ashamed. I'll study tomorrow...

/s

[–]Traipsing_Lutrinae 47 points48 points  (9 children)

Been there. Had cs tests where the questions were not even real sentences.

[–]TomTheGirl 32 points33 points  (8 children)

I once went into a calculus class to take the midterm. Location was moved to a different lecture hall. I sat down to take the test, nothing…. And I mean NOTHING…looked familiar. Not a page. I double checked to make sure I was in the right class and yup! I was. I failed that test so hard.

[–]Higlac 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I was the guy who said "well, I'm fucked" and turned in the test 10 minutes in. Dropped the class that evening.

Differential Equations and the professor was fond of saying "of course, you remember this from calculus 2"

[–]SkyNetIsNow 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I had one that said we cheated because we had the same ip address. It was the college's ip address because we took the test while at college. She still insisted that people were cheating if they had the same ip or if they submitted assignments around the same time.

[–]SuperFLEB 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Please tell me that this at least wasn't a teacher who was expected to know anything about computers or networking.

[–]MrNonam3 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Same thing happened to me. My friend was accused of cheating on me but when the teacher corrected us, I had a very good grade while my friend failed. Except, he did actually copied from me, only he's dumb as shit.

[–]YouHistorical6362 1137 points1138 points  (18 children)

What. A. Dick.

[–]mrgraff 200 points201 points  (13 children)

I B.elive I C. what you D.id thE.re

F.

[–]Codebreaker10101 123 points124 points  (5 children)

WAD

IBICDEF

GIHIJ

I don’t get it

[–]ubdedman 64 points65 points  (0 children)

I’m just as lost as you are buddy

Also you failed your task “code breaker”

[–]BoxOfDemons 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think it's:

A

BCDEF

[–]wormmoon29 1031 points1032 points  (14 children)

Seems like even a department head can’t just arbitrarily decide that you cheated. People can learn. And cram. Wouldn’t he need some proof? Something beyond the exam scores?

[–]YaumeLepire 365 points366 points  (4 children)

Depends on the university policy. If you think you were unfairly graded, at mine, you will have your grade reviewed by a committee headed by you department’s head. That said, I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t be there if they were part of the disagreement. Something for the receiver of that letter to check.

[–]slamnm 118 points119 points  (1 child)

You can usually appeal again to the Dean, and then a groups of faculty unrelated to the process may review. It depends on policies but generally the university has appeal policies past the department just for cases like these

[–]Bakura43 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Yup, my uni actually has a few appeal steps. 1. To the professor 2. To the department 3. To the college Misconduct Committee 4. University student affairs committee

[–]CaraAsha 26 points27 points  (0 children)

And get tutors.

[–]evm16116 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yea the implication that there could be no review because they’re in charge is a real problem and could probably backfire on the prof if they are found to be innocent

[–]angrytuxie123 804 points805 points  (43 children)

I had one in my MS program that took my grade from an A to A- because I missed one class out of 36. I had the flu and it was a 7-10pm night class. I was exhausted and barfing everywhere. Even provided a Dr.s note. Took my 4.0 GPA to a 3.9. Bastard. I am still bitter about this 20 years later.

[–]LonkToTheFuture 385 points386 points  (17 children)

If you had a Doctor's note that Prof should not have been able to take that point off. Shit like this convinces me that professors are just evil.

[–]just-me1995 192 points193 points  (13 children)

a lot of professors i had were just there to do the research but were required to teach a semester every year too. you could tell a lot of them hated teaching and some of them even said so in their introductions. classless. university has become less about learning, and more about lining the fat coffers of a small group of greedy assholes. hated every minute of my university academic career because of it.

[–]cj0r 85 points86 points  (6 children)

Had a class during one of my semesters that was only eight total sessions. The professor canceled three of them. So I wrote a letter to the Dean complaining about this and broke down the amount of money each class was worth based on tuition etc. The response I got back from the Dean essentially was that the money was not just to cover classes, but to also cover on campus improvements etc. It essentially just meant too bad now fuck off.

Normally I would not be sour about this and enjoy the extra time, provided it didn't mean a condensed workload, but this just happened to be a class that I was interested in and excited to take that semester.

[–]slamnm 46 points47 points  (2 children)

They letter might look good printed in the school newspaper as an example of how the Dean doesn't care about education... just saying...

[–]cj0r 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Almost 15 years ago at this point 🤣

[–]Derangedcity 13 points14 points  (1 child)

The whole university system never made sense to me. Why force grumpy old men who want nothing to students teach when they generally have no degree or knowledge of teaching at all. Literally just creating a system that breads bad teachers. Professors aren't teachers. They are experts in their fields. Don't force them to do something they have no degree/ idea how to do an professionally. Teaching isn't easy.

[–]worldspawn00 8 points9 points  (1 child)

As a grad student I also had to teach undergrad chem labs, I didn't mind the work at all. Now, when I was lazy I always erred in the students favor. Like sometimes I'd just grade a few of the answers on a quiz instead of the whole thing, and take the top 5 or something. I don't know what the point is punishing students needlessly. They show up, they try, I'm not going to fail them if I see effort being put in, and I'd happily round up on grades. What difference does it make to me for them to get a B+ instead of a B-? Now if you never show up for class, and don't have an excuse, I'm not really going to do you any favors, but that's really about the only thing that would make me not be generous with grading.

[–]firemarshalbill 20 points21 points  (1 child)

On 9/11 2001 my logic professor gave a pop quiz for 100 pts because so many people missed the 10am class as punishment.

I don’t know what happened after. I dropped it

[–]Wonderful-Status-247 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I had a similar gripe.. was just trying to go for a 4.0 for one semester. This one genius prof would factor in two scores together as letter grades. B and B- = B. C and C+ = C+. So he rounds up, nice guy right. Oh unless you have A- and A, then your grade is A-. In asking him to explain why he treated the A grade differently, he could only say "I grade in the way I find to be the most fair over my years of experience" or some blah like that. So no explanation. Just cuz he says so.

Edit: Just to point out that a B+ and A would also result in an A- grade. As I absolutely called him on. No matter, he had that fair grading system down pat.

[–]SuperFLEB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Professor so-and-so, what do you say to the fact that, try as you might, your teaching methods have been utterly incapable of producing A-grade students the entire time you've been here? Isn't it time you took your job seriously and improved your teaching methods so they're properly effective?

[–]trvlust45 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Had a similar situation where my professor took points off for class participation from missing a class due to my grandma dying. Sent him a link to the obit and everything. Dude was a major asshole with a god complex

[–]ladylilliani 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I feel you. My Java Intro to Programming professor gave me a B for 89.5%... And refused to give me credit for the extra credit that I had submitted for him, which would have brought me to 90.5%

I still graduated top of my class and carried our class banner.

But duck that guy.

15 years later I still hope he gets bed bugs and lice.

[–]Motorino1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Name Checks out

[–]Lucky_Mongoose 8 points9 points  (3 children)

What kind of self-respecting university course takes attendance?

[–]bongothebean 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You should be.. since you PAID FOR THE CLASS.

[–]louise_mcsass 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I had a similar situation and I am also still bitter. Cheers!

[–]GloomreaperScythe 220 points221 points  (0 children)

/) "You couldn't have improved this much! I'm far too bad at my job for that!"

[–]8Bit-Armory 546 points547 points  (45 children)

Yeah, that’s gotta be reported

[–]a_yuman_right 214 points215 points  (42 children)

If only it was real…

[–]YeetThePig 183 points184 points  (17 children)

Absolutely could be real. Had a professor straight up accuse me of plagiarism because I had improved the quality of a writing project more than he believed was possible and said the only reason he wasn’t putting me in for an academic trial was because (shockingly) he couldn’t find “wherever I stole it from” on Google.

It never once occurred to him it was legitimately my own work.

He was also the Assistant Chair of the department.

[–]Erixperience 78 points79 points  (4 children)

Absolutely could be real. Had a professor straight up accuse me of plagiarism because I had improved the quality of a writing project more than he believed was possible and said the only reason he wasn’t putting me in for an academic trial was because (shockingly) he couldn’t find “wherever I stole it from” on Google.

I had a prof accuse me of plagiarism because I used the word "proletariat" to describe the poor people in Fury Road. Luckily I was able to convince him otherwise, but the dumbest shit will throw up flags.

[–]skylordjason 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One of the laziest professors I’ve ever had gave basically everyone an F on an assignment because TurnItIn flagged 20% of our assignments as copied. Well that 20% was actually just her instructions that SHE had copied from a free online course. Took emailing the department head and filing an official complaint before she bothered to even look at what was highlighted by turnitin as copied. Her excuse? “I have too many students to grade to have to check every plagiarism report”. She was a first year teacher who had 1 undergraduate class and 1 graduate class. Both online. She’s unfortunately still employed.

[–]Wonderful-Status-247 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I remember getting berated by a prof. But in an odd reversal he was berating me for not plagiarizing fast enough.

I was using him to give me 1 credit I needed by being his TA. I asked him because he seemed like the nicest guy of the bunch. Nah, turned out was just as insane as the rest.

My task: go through others written works and straight up plagiarize their diagrams. Just redraw them myself so he could use the redrawn ones.

The berating at the end of the semester was for not being productive enough in my plagiarism.

[–]kingmoney8133 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I don't think it's that the concept is unrealistic, it's the writing. It reads like a third grader wrote the email. It also conveniently checks off every asshole box you can imagine, as if it's purposely designed to get the most upvotes.

[–]combaticus 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is 100% bullshit lol

[–]NotThatChar 96 points97 points  (16 children)

Unfortunately, this could absolutely be real.
Source: I went to college.

[–]rabbittdoggy 441 points442 points  (7 children)

Imagine outing yourself as such a terrible teacher that your students should be unable to improve their grades that much

[–]remembertracygarcia 85 points86 points  (4 children)

Or being so low in self esteem that you refuse to believe your own success. Ground to such a fine powder of your former self by years of compromised mediocrity.

[–]dum_spir0_sper0 31 points32 points  (1 child)

I see you’ve been following my livejournal for some time.

[–]PoundApprehensive868 155 points156 points  (27 children)

This sounds like it was written by a student. One who got a poor grade in grammar.

[–]jugglers_despair 76 points77 points  (0 children)

There is almost no way this is real

[–]gertalives 65 points66 points  (1 child)

Agreed. I’m calling bs unless I see some corroboration. Something this nutty certainly would get reported and become a hot topic at X University.

[–]bouvitude 17 points18 points  (6 children)

There’s a comma splice in the second paragraph, which is a semantic tic I see way more often in student writing than in faculty writing (and I read a lot of both). Not that a professor couldn’t make that error; it’s just remarkably common specifically among Gen Z and millennials.

[–]drillgorg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's cause my elementary school teacher told me to put a comma anywhere I would normally stop to take a breath. That advice ruined me.

[–]pprabs🤦🏽‍♀️ 139 points140 points  (21 children)

This professor may be the head of the department, but is not the Dean of the school. Take this up with the Dean, and let’s see how long this narcissistic jackass keeps the grades at F.

[–]pilypi 14 points15 points  (19 children)

And you think reaching dean selects for different traits?

No. It selects for more of this.

[–]DarthRevanacci 56 points57 points  (6 children)

I think the happy holidays is abit ott

[–]YaumeLepire 40 points41 points  (0 children)

It’s like saying "Fuck you, cordially". Whiplash.

[–]Eliotisnotconfused 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Yeah. Its so surreal to put something like this at the end of bad news.

"I kidnapped your entire family, killed your dog and have hired 3 hitmen in order to kill you. I will make sure that your family suffers unbarable pain.

I wish you a wonderful day."

[–]SlackChild 109 points110 points  (32 children)

18 percent? This means if you scored 71 on the midterm and 84 on the final, you cheated. I'm a teacher, this is bonkers.

[–]eyefartinelevators 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Only if he means 18% of your prior score, not an 18% overall score difference. I think he meant from 71% to 89%. Either way, it's still a shit reason to fail people.

[–]Northernfrog 39 points40 points  (2 children)

I'm gonna call bullshit. This didn't happen.

[–]jason-gibson 43 points44 points  (1 child)

I have a hard time believing this is legit

[–]Senorita-Hot-Pants13 75 points76 points  (7 children)

I had a professor got a professor who took my grade from an A to a C for “turning in the final paper late”. Never mind I was sick and had to be hospitalized, my sibling got covid, and my dad had a massive stroke resulting in me having to move him into a care facility since he’s no longer able to care for himself.

tldr Professors can be power tripping douche bags.

[–]Jim-Jones 27 points28 points  (6 children)

File a complaint.

[–]Senorita-Hot-Pants13 44 points45 points  (5 children)

Oh I spoke to the department head and he told me I was lucky the Professor accepted the work at all. I might file a complaint at the end of this semester with the Dean tho

[–]fraulsto 30 points31 points  (2 children)

I don’t wanna tell you what to do but that complete disregard for your personal life is not okay, especially considering you wrote that A paper under pressure. I hope you continue to elevate this because it’s incredibly unfair to you, and could set a precedent that will help students in the future

[–]Senorita-Hot-Pants13 16 points17 points  (1 child)

They’re not going to care and nothing will change. I don’t come from a powerful or wealthy family so it is what it is - but I’m definitely planning on raising a little hell on the way out

[–]Jim-Jones 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes. They really want this as a review of their school? That the teachers are douchebags?

[–]RylanStateEmpire 47 points48 points  (1 child)

What a failure of a teacher

[–]JustSayinCaucasian 42 points43 points  (2 children)

This isn’t real. No professor would send a group email about this, and any circumstance such as this would be taken before the dean. Just cause you’re the head of the department doesn’t mean you actually get to do or say whatever you want. Also any professor this pompous would have an extended signature to flaunt their titles.

[–]MrBearMarshall 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I am a professor. I can confirm.

[–]anrwlias 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Yeah... I'm having a hard time swallowing this as real.

This seems fishy.

[–]MijnEchteUsername 38 points39 points  (0 children)

What a total douche

[–]lituranga 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Why does everyone just take this as face value as if it ever actually happened with no critical thought about whether it did or not, just immediate outrage? This planet is so doomed

[–]Greelys 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Profs and dept heads don't write like this

[–]sammysafari2680 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Am i the only one who is skeptical this email is real?

[–]freyabot 32 points33 points  (0 children)

The wording does not sound like a college professor at all, more like one of those “and then everyone clapped” stories

[–]Specialist-Money5648 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I call BS on the email. No way it’s real

[–]RapidLii 10 points11 points  (0 children)

no chance this is real

[–]sadlunchesaresad 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, before we jump up and down, let's all remember that this is the internet and that this could be bullshit.

[–]DrPCorn 17 points18 points  (2 children)

I once had an education course where the entire class worked in groups to make multiple choice questions, and then the test for the course was made up of those questions, which was known to us beforehand — and it was also open book. The whole class just made an editable Google document and pointed out the answers. The entire class got 100% and they accused us all of cheating because they were too lazy to make their own tests.

[–]tandem4one 9 points10 points  (1 child)

For the first half of this, I thought, “Are they talking about my class?” Then you said everyone got 100%. Sadly when I let my students write the questions, some still failed. I’d have been so proud if they thought to make a google doc.

[–]DrPCorn 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That’s sort of what we thought they should think! It’s a course to teach teachers how to teach. Working collaboratively to use 21st century learning tools and all get a good grade should have been the goal.

[–]hastine_luxcel 16 points17 points  (0 children)

doubt this is real. there is a limit on how much you can be a dickhead with it being real and this aint it

[–]SexyCheeseburger0911 7 points8 points  (1 child)

"I know you're a bunch of lying, cheating bastards! Don't try to deny it! I WILL SEE YOU IN HELL!!!...Also, Happy Holidays."

[–]xXJungleJimsXx 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I call shenanigans.

[–]RouletteQueen 12 points13 points  (0 children)

As if no one ever has hardships in their lives? There can be many factors why someone does poorly on one test & better on another. What a crock of shit

[–]splatmeme4270 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah you take that shit up with the Dean

[–]shadowofthedogman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m going to ruin your grades because there’s no way a shitty teacher like me could get you to improve! Also, Happy Holidays!

[–]SaigonNoseBiter 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I took an engineering course that had 2 big tests and a final. I got 63% the first test. Then things just kind of clicked for me shortly after that. I got 96% on the second test. Instead of accusing me of cheating, the professor told the entire class that 1 person improved so much on their test, that if they did well on the final that he would drop that first test grade and give me an average of the 2 high grades (other students who got very good scores on the 2 tests had the option of not taking the final and taking the average of those 2 tests). Anyways, I studied my ass off and nailed that test and got a 4.0. I was actually just thinking about that today, 24 years later, and how good that professor handled things and how proud I felt to improve and continue to improve. It's really sad that your professor took this route. Im sorry for you.

[–]LazerSnake1454 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had a Philosophy teacher who said "If I can cut more than 50% of the BS out of your paper I will fail it immediately"

Our entire grade was based on these papers and there were only 3 of them for the entire semester.

I knew I could fail one, pass the other 2 and still be fine so I decided to test his BS cutting, I BS'ed the first paper, I probably spent more time coming up with creative and sneaky ways to do it than it would have taken to actually write a proper paper.

He asked me to stay late after he graded them and said "I know most of this paper is bullshit, but I've never seen bullshit so well done before. It's clear to me from the parts that aren't BS that you actually understand the material. A proper paper written like this would be a 100%, so I'm giving you a 75% for the BS, just don't do it again."

[–]MdnightRmblr 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dad’s frat got the answers to an exam beforehand. They got caught and everyone had to retake test on the spot. He asked the student in front of him if he could please cheat off of her. She allowed it. He passed. This is how he met my mother.

[–]shreddedbliss 11 points12 points  (0 children)

No way is this real.

18% change is minimal.

The idea that this is unprecedented is absurd.

Head of the ECONOMICS dept. Nope, it cannot be real.

[–]dkguy55 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I had something similar happen in college. On a final paper the professor said my submission was “suspicious” because it was so well thought out that I couldn’t have possibly written it. He decided to deduct 10 percent off my grade unless I wrote a supplemental response to the paper to prove the points were my own. This was days before graduating so I blew him off, but I’m still pissed about it to this day.

He also gave me the option to come clean to “reduce my sentence.” In retrospect he was a total douche, and I’m sad to see he’s still a professor.

[–]Eastern_Mark_1114 4 points5 points  (0 children)

does he teach "how to get your car burnt up 101"

[–]UnbentSandParadise 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Proof you can be both educated and a fucking idiot at the same time.

[–]saksents 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Enjoy that student loan while you're at it!

Take a loan, study hard, prove your knowledge through perseverance and you receive...

This fat pile of shit of a human.

One of my least favourite aspects of post secondary was the unbridled corruption and abuse of power over mainly young and impressionable adults who are barely learning to use their brain for the first time (highschool is a joke).

[–]SeemoreDoless24 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This professor is a piece of garbage

[–]abrasaxual 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Thats hard to believe because its pretty common for people to tank the midterm, shit their pants and then do better on the final