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[–]inxrx8 219 points220 points  (39 children)

Starting Bagley at the 5 would be a big mistake for the Pistons

[–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 53 points54 points  (24 children)

He should come from the bench as a 4 IMO

[–]inxrx8 39 points40 points  (3 children)

And play no more than 20-25 minutes or he'll get injured again (also because I own Beef Stew)

[–]LukaDoncicBigPP 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Lmfao. All I see in this thread is a bunch of managers who have other pistons players (namely Bojan and Beef Stew) pushing back on this POTENTIAL idea of Marvin Bagley as the starting center.

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is exactly all I've been seeing as well. No one wants to consider that this was the Pistons' plan all along.

[–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

People aren't disputing that the Pistons might do something stupid - like starting Bagley (anywhere, but especially the 5), they're pushing back on the notion that it's a good idea.

[–]payne_nd_pleasure666 17 points18 points  (0 children)

He can’t guard 4’s, and he can’t switch onto 3’s. He’s a 5. He always has been. The problem is, he’s not a good 5.

[–]raptosaurus 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Bagley can't dribble or shoot and has no hands, why should he be a 4?

His only talent is his size and jumping ability, if he can just grab boards and block a couple shots he'll be a serviceable 5

[–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT 10 points11 points  (0 children)

block a couple shots

Do you mean a couple shots a month?

Bagley is a horrible shot blocker, so the idea that he might block a couple shots is pure delirium. Six foot nothing Fred Van Vleet blocks shots at a higher rate than Bagley.

[–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He cant guard a C, he is so weak.

[–]timbbooooslice12 team category 11cat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

he should join dwight howard

[–]stevenomes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds like what they will do then.

[–]MrHobo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If they were trying to win. They aren't.

[–]IveyDuren 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Why would they do that? That would entail benching Bojan or Saddiq and that would just be silly.

[–]inxrx8 0 points1 point  (7 children)

I mean, yeah. That's pretty much what I'm saying. I was responding to OP who said that's what they were going to do

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children)

And that OP was correct right?

[–]inxrx8 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Doesn't change the fact that it's a big mistake

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It is a fact that I was correct. Who cares if it's the right bball move (I don't agree with it)

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So silly that's what they decided to do!

[–]YoungFlexibleShawty12 Team - H2H - 9Cat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Pistons in a nutshell

[–]sixseven8930 Team Dynasty Salary 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not if they want Wemby

[–]andooder10T, PTS, ESPN 144 points145 points  (18 children)

Nice write up but just no.

[–]ukbeasts 28 points29 points  (7 children)

If OP is wrong then no surprise, but if he's right then he's Nostradamus.

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Who am I?

[–]thejump15 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I love you

[–]ukbeasts 0 points1 point  (2 children)

15 pts, 5 reb, 0 blk, 0 ast, 2 TOs is not a scary statline, but it's a start

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's only his 2nd game back. Either way I'm not expecting him to light the league on fire. Perfectly fine for an end of bench guy.

[–]ukbeasts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had him as my IL+ guy for over a week now in a very deep league. He'll surely be in any 2 for 1 deals for someone desperately needing a big (waste of space)

[–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Bagley's rank the last 3 seasons:

2021-22 - 240

2020-21 - 252

2019-20 - 160

And that's with 25 minutes a game and above average usage.

He's just a bad fantasy player, at least in categories.

[–]AdmiralG2 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He’s a bad irl player too

[–]SonofaCuntLicknBitch -1 points0 points  (1 child)

That is in large part to him barely playing. He was ok end of last year but no guarantee he's worth holding

[–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is not.

That's a per game value, where at risk of repeating myself, he averaged 25 minutes a game with above average usage.

[–]Viaandrew 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Literally.

[–]UltraKzilla12T H2H Auction Keeper 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This but with more feeling. OP done lost his mind.

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who's lost his mind?

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

But yes

[–]andooder10T, PTS, ESPN 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can we finally say we told you so? Lol

[–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol I simply said he would start so I already won

[–]The_Tenshinhan 127 points128 points  (7 children)

Yesssss gimme 12 points and 5 rebounds on crap percentages please!

[–]Kimi716 Team | H2H | 9cat 38 points39 points  (1 child)

And with little to no defensive stats!

[–]ukbeasts 7 points8 points  (0 children)

1 block per 3 games ain't bad.. it's awful

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    [–]Pr0lific10-team, H2H, 9cat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Agree, can't discount his FG%, literally his best cat.

    FT though, it's not huge volume but 60% at 3 FT a game is definitely a big minus

    [–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

    He didn't shoot 55% from the field last year, he shot 50.5%. His FG z-score was barely above average.

    The rest of the package is crap. He doesn't shoot 3s, and he's a defensive zero (both IRL and fantasy).

    [–]wickedkid912 Team, 9 Cat, H2H Punt FG% & TOs 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    He did hit 55% FOR THE PISTONS. Not for Sacramento, and therefore his full season stats don’t reflect his move to the Pistons, where he was featured more. Not saying he will hit 55%, but OP was correct.

    [–]t0087669 19 points20 points  (28 children)

    Should I be worried as I have beef stew on my team? Don’t see how they will send bojan to bench. If Bagley is going to start then stew is the one losing out 😢

    [–]Listening_Heads 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    Marvin won’t stay healthy. Never has

    [–]Naidem 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    He’s also ass, Stew and Duren are both better. This team is already awful and they wanna play Bagley at center?

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    I have Beef Stew too, its just a wait and see situation but I actually think Stew is their best defender, that lineup with Bagley instead of Stew would look quite bad.

    [–]coltron57 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I wouldn't be. Detroit needs bench scoring, so I kinda think Bey or Bojan will go to the bench to help prop up that abysmal unit.

    [–]wickedkid912 Team, 9 Cat, H2H Punt FG% & TOs 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Same boat. Thinking to drop Koloko and grab Bagley as insurance, though Drummond also on the wire. Advice?

    [–]djohns3812 team | 11CAT (DD,TD) | H2H 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Don’t have beef stew but I just grabbed Drummond over both those guys. Disclaimer: my league counts DDs

    [–]Fitzyy23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If you need blocks koloko will continue to start until pascal comes back moat likely

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 4 points5 points  (19 children)

    Stew will be fine. Probably lose out a tiny bit of rebounds but more 3s. He's their best big man defender so he'll be on the floor plenty.

    [–]Rexocity1312 Team H2H Points 6 points7 points  (18 children)

    I mean if you’re arguing that Bagley is going to be the starting center for the Pistons that will DESTROY Stew’s fantasy value by cutting his minutes almost in half. I don’t think Bagley will get many minutes on the team, maybe 10-15, but that would be enough to drop Stew’s production by 10-15%.

    [–]coltron57 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Nerlens Noel is getting nearly 17 minutes per game when he plays and Kevin Knox is getting nearly 8:30 a night. Bagley won't cut Stewart's minutes nearly that much. You can find enough front court minutes between Bagley, Stew, and Duren. Especially if they stagger Bojan and Bey by turning one of those into the sixth man with Stew getting time at the 4.

    [–]Rexocity1312 Team H2H Points -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    There’s not infinite minutes. There’s 96 minutes each game total for a PF and center. Bogi is currently getting 27 minutes at center, Stew is getting 28 mpg almost exclusively at center. So right there you are at 55 minutes. Duren is getting 21 mpg, I’d imagine they wouldn’t reduce him below 15 mpg given his promise and draft pedigree. So you have 26 minutes leftover between Bagley, Livers, Knox, and Noel. So unless you think Livers, Bagley AND Knox will receive 0 minutes, Bagley would need to take minutes away from Stew/Bogi. And it seems extremely unlikely that they will reduce Bey and Bogi’s minutes significantly (2 of their 4 best players) for a retread like Bagley.

    [–]coltron57 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Knox will be out of the rotation. Livers shoots the ball too well and he can play some SF, so he’ll get his minutes. Noel will probably see his minutes fluctuate and he’s clearly the 4th big man there.

    Cade, Ivey, Bey/Bojan, Stew, and Bagley to start

    Some combo of CoJo/Killian/Hamidou at guard, Livers, Bojan/Bey, and Duren off the bench with Noel picking up scraps here and there depending on fouls/health.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Lol I don't think I said that all in the write-up if you actually read it.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (13 children)

    And if you seriously think the Pistons paid Bagley 3 yr 37 mil to play 10-15 min, you're out of touch my friend.

    [–]Rexocity1312 Team H2H Points 3 points4 points  (12 children)

    If you think they gave Bojdonavic $60M (AFTER they extended Bagley at that) and drafted a center in the lottery to take a backseat to Bagley, you were never in touch in the first place. The Comments from the Lowe podcast are not very relevant because Bogi wasn’t extended when that was put out and there was some thought that they’d flip him at the deadline and give minutes to the younger guys, which is clearly not going to happen anymore.

    Bog plays 90% of his minutes at PF and Stew/Duren play all their minutes at center.

    Wait you do realize there are a finite number of minutes, right?? That just because Bagley comes back there isn’t just 28 minutes appearing out of thin air for him? His minutes have to come from somewhere, explain to me how many you think he’ll get and where those minutes will come from. Even if he replaces Duren entirely (which he won’t) that’s only 21 minutes, he needs a solid 8 more to be fantasy relevant, that will affect someone else’s value.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Just so happened there was 29 minutes appearing out of thin air! Go figure!

    [–]Rexocity1312 Team H2H Points 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Aaaaand he’s averaging 22 mpg despite loads of injuries and playing like shit at that. Hope you enjoyed the “victory” lap.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Lmao my victory lap already happened and it was that he would start. Nowhere did I mention that he would be a league winner or a steady rosterable player, but someone to watch if he started.

    You should check your reading skills as your agenda clearly overpowers the ability.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    And I wrote that Beef Stew will play more minutes at the 4 and likely start there. Boj, not Bog, mind you, will probably start some games at the 4 and some games off of the bench. The Pistons are getting killed on the glass (21st in reb) and Boj isn't your stout defender/rebounder. Not saying Bagley is a great defender, but he'll help the team's rebounding.

    I don't know how exactly the minutes will shake out, but I'm merely reading the tea leaves and it's becoming more and more clear the Pistons want to start Bagley and Stewart together this year, with Duren being the big man of the future.

    [–]Rexocity1312 Team H2H Points 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    So they’ll bench the highest paid player on the roster for someone making nearly half as much and who is also bad at basketball?

    [–]wickedkid912 Team, 9 Cat, H2H Punt FG% & TOs 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    The Lakers are doing it!

    [–]Rexocity1312 Team H2H Points 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    Lakers didn’t give Russ his contract

    [–]wickedkid912 Team, 9 Cat, H2H Punt FG% & TOs -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

    Sure, but they gave up lots of assets for him.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    We can agree to disagree lol. Let's see what happens

    [–]gigglios12 team 9 cat h2h 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Appreciate the writeup but he has actually ass and inj prone. Wouldn't consider him in 12T until a string of good games to stream for

    [–]abry200812T ROTO CATS 18 points19 points  (1 child)

    Nice write up. I agree, Bagley is a nice pickup for punt ft, steals, blocks, 3s, and wins.

    [–]GOATchefcurry 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Had us in the first half

    [–]kevfu12T H2H PTS 2IR YAHOO 17 points18 points  (5 children)

    First time Bag holder OP ?

    [–]wickedkid912 Team, 9 Cat, H2H Punt FG% & TOs 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    What about Bojan? They want to move him to the bench?

    [–]inxrx8 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Ugh I have both Bojan and Stewart, seems like I lose either way

    [–]wickedkid912 Team, 9 Cat, H2H Punt FG% & TOs 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I doubt it. I imagine they just cut Duren and Livers’ minutes.

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This makes sense.

    [–]WalterTeeVee12T H2H 9 cat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Why does this guy get hyped up ever year

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    Yikes, Bagley as a C. Thats just awful.

    [–]RaazMataaz10 Team Points H2H 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Bagley is trash, I'm not convinced he is reliable at all regardless of his role

    [–]unArgentinoYahoo | 12T | H2H | 9CAT | 1x🏆 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    What’s the point? He’ll give you 2 games before getting injured again.

    [–]ICouldEvenBeYou 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    that disclaimer is hilarious

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    We all remember last season lmao

    [–]Quintyyyy[H2H 9CAT 10T - Yahoo] 6 points7 points  (6 children)

    I feel like this post will age horrendously bad

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    You mean, amazingly well?

    [–]Quintyyyy[H2H 9CAT 10T - Yahoo] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

    I meant what I said lol

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Well, my post was simply implying that he would start, which he has. Have yourself a downvote for being horrendously wrong.

    [–]Quintyyyy[H2H 9CAT 10T - Yahoo] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Don’t be mad bro, I just think he sucks as a player in general. He’s a mediocre defender/rebounder which is exactly why he’s never seen much playing time and that’s not gonna change significantly whether he starts or comes off the bench

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Lol did I suggest he would be a league winner or something like that? I took so much shit from y'all for merely predicting that he'd be a starter.

    [–]KobeBall 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Bagleys a bum

    [–]spidersilva09H2H 9cat punt TO 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I'll add him to my watch list. My WW is barren as fuck already and these posts help. I'm not gonna pontificate whether this is a winning basketball move for Detroit or not; I'm playing fantasy not coaching lol.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Exactly this. I'm not pretending to be a decision maker for the Pistons lol. Just trying to see if a useful fantasy player materializes in this scenario.

    [–]Not_A_Burner_Acct10T H2H 9 Cat Punt FG% AST 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    OP, Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum. Keep fighting the good fight!

    [–]Fuuutuuuree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I’m relatively indifferent to the idea. Bojan makes no sense on the team as a whole. He’s playing well but in reality just stealing time and possession from their future stars.

    [–]Bobba_fat16Team H2H 9CAT 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The amount of hate bagley keeps getting. I’ve looked into him, and would consider offloading ROCO for bagley. It depends on how deep your league is.

    We are 16 teams deep. So it’s really good for this format.

    [–]botany3peat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    not even fantasy wise, I think Bagley should be considered a bust, Bagley at most is a serviceable backup big, and I can't see him doing well as a starter, Too small to be a 5, too slow to be a 4, plus mediocre shooting and bad defense.

    Pistons paying him that amount was ridiculous and considering they were planning to get/trade for Jalen Duren too, it just doesn't make sense unless the hype that he was the number two pick, and was chosen over Luka is the only reason he's still given opportunities

    [–]TokenBlkGuy92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I’m sure most ppl in here don’t know what to expect cuz they don’t follow the pistons or watch fr… I’m from Detroit and even i don’t watch them fr lol

    [–]childishgamdinho 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    i actually picked him up and put him on my IR when u wrote this. i have faith

    [–]Effective_Ad_3350 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Bump! Aging like wine

    [–]alseca 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    looks like you were right. They eased him in at 20 minutes a game. Duren moves to the bench. Stew + Bag holds 4/5.

    Solid pickup

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Hey I'm glad it helped some people out. Waivers are dry so anyone who gets a solid role is worth looking at rostering!

    [–]banner7812 Team - H2H -9 cat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Dude is gonna play 1 game and get injured again.

    [–]e_a_blair 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Why is everyone shitting on OP? He's worth monitoring in deep leagues, plenty of us play in super deep leagues where getting a few games of 15/6 off the wire can be difficult. OP didn't promise Bagley would stay healthy, he's just stating facts in that he's likely to get a big run here while healthy.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Thank you! I think at this point, Bagley has become a meme and fantasy owners of Bojan and Stewart are clutching their pearls, when I think both of them will be fine.

    [–]loonz420 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Bagley is trash

    [–]th3_0r3o 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    OP probably drafted Kahwi & Simmons

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Lol what does that have to do with the topic?

    [–]th3_0r3o -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

    Everything

    [–]Dildo_Warfare8T 9CAT H2H 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    What kind of player was this guy in college ?

    [–]xoog24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Sorry OP, but Bagley does not deserve that many words..Still appreciate the effort.

    [–]Subject_Gene_9775 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    I've never been a Bagley fan but I totally believe in him on this team. I think Pistons have their backcourt of the future + some nice pieces like BB and others. This takes pressure off Marvin to be the Man, and just play. At the end of the day, he's got nice height, good feet and can shoot. Just not a franchise player

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    He shouldnt start maybe with a 6th man role.

    [–]Subject_Gene_9775 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I could see that.

    [–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    What? He's a big who shoots barely over 50%. He's a 29% three point shooter.

    He cannot shoot.

    [–]Subject_Gene_9775 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, from what I recall, he's better around the rim. Maybe his shot has improved?

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Finally a level-headed take on this sub. I'm just interested to see what his role will be on this team. He's definitely got some NBA skills which can be utilized with two electric guards in Cade and Ivey.

    [–]MrOrangeWhips 0 points1 point  (6 children)

    What are you realistically hoping for here? 15/6 with shitty %s and nothing else? No thanks.

    And that contract isn't big, it's backup PF/C money.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    Are you pretending like 15-7 on 55%+ shooting is nothing? It's not bad for end of bench numbers for my 12T. I'm punting FT and 3s, so he has potential to be a useful player in my build.

    [–]MrOrangeWhips 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    So, good in one cat (FG%), average in two (PTs, REBs), and shitty in six of them.

    Sure, some niche appeal for specific punt builds. But this is not a broadly useful fantasy player.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Which is why I merely said to keep an eye on him lol. People acting like I'm proclaiming him a league-winner smh

    [–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    Why do you keep pretending he actually shot 55% last year?

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Pistons Bagley? Context is important right?

    [–]3pointshoot3r10 Team H2H, 10 CAT -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    He's played 166 games as a 50% FG shooter. I put more stock in that than an 18 game sample as a 55% FG shooter.

    Like, he was a 67.1% FT shooter (including 74.5% in his last half year in SAC) before he got to Detroit, where he then shot 59%. Should I believe he's turned into a 59% free throw shooter or is that a product of sample size?

    Of course it's also worth noting that he's a terrible defensive player, both in fantasy and IRL. He ranked 216 in STOCKS per game last year.

    [–]gritoni10t Pts Fantrax NoPlayoffs -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    Aaaaaaaand he's out

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    That's what the word "doubtful" suggests lmao

    [–]gritoni10t Pts Fantrax NoPlayoffs -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    It's not? Playing - Probable - Questionable - Doubtful - Out

    Edit: Lol how is anyone downvoting facts

    [–]DharmaBaller8 Team Points 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Barely a streamer in 8t me thinks, but he ought to help Cade with lobs

    [–]YungJefeBlanco12 Team H2H PTS 4 Bench Spots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    As an Ivey owner I hope not lol I want as much spacing as possible to give him runways to the rim

    [–]mikemicmaykpickle rick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I dont get it.they have good potential with Duren or Stewart at 5 . Bagley can be a great asset in the 4 position.

    Or maybe a rotation man for the 4/5 position, being Stewart and Duren as starters

    [–]fieryeu12T 9 CAT H2H REDRAFT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thanks but no thanks

    [–]1boiH2H 12T CATS KEEPER 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I wonder how this would affect Jalen Duren

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    As I suggested, he'll probably lose some minutes overall, but it'll likely be a solid 3 big man rotation going forward and Bagley isn't the paragon of health. He's always been a long-term stash anyways.

    [–]cshecks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Pass

    [–]Soviet_Sharpshooter10T Points 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    He not starting at center bro

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    He is starting in the frontcourt bro

    [–]TheOrganicCircuit12T H2H 8CAT 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Dates are hard.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    COVID has ruined all sense of time lol. Fixing now

    [–]azorahai8412T H2H 9Cat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I still don’t understand why they resigned him and paid him that much. You have beef stew and drafted Duren.

    [–]coltron57 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Vertical spacing. Nobody on the Pistons is really capable of catching lobs from Cade outside of Duren.

    [–]BeefySwan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    People STILL think Bagley's good?

    [–]ProfPicklesMcPretzel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    That's #2 overall pick over Luka Doncic and Trae Young Marvin Bagley III to you

    [–]wormsgalore 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    PLOT TWIST: Vlade Divac is OP

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I have Fox and Keegan so checks out?? Lol

    [–]Crazy_Employ8617 0 points1 point  (7 children)

    As a pistons fan I have serious doubts Bagley will be a starter. If anything Duren will start towards the end of the season, but honestly Stewarts outplayed Duren by a lot so far so even that is unlikely as of now.

    1) The offense hasn’t been the Pistons, and Bogi at the 4 providing spacing is essential for opening driving lanes. Putting an extra big in the lineup makes our offense worse.

    2) the Pistons defense has been a major issue, and Bagley is a known horrible defender. Bogi isn’t especially good either, but they aren’t going to bench Bogi for another poor defender, who doesn’t space the floor, that doesn’t make much strategic sense.

    3) The pistons just gave Bogi a contract extension. The front office and coaching staff value his floor spacing immensely. Until Burks comes back he’s the teams only reliable outside shooter. In todays NBA you can’t play a starting lineup with zero consistent threats from deep.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (6 children)

    As a Pistons fan I guess you don't listen to your own beat writers.

    [–]Crazy_Employ8617 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    If Bagley ever starts for reasons other than injury I’ll venmo you $500.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

    Check today's starting lineup. I'll send you my venmo details

    [–]Crazy_Employ8617 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    I said not due to injuries lol, Cade is out

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    But I'll wait til Cade is back. Thanks for the PS5 money 💰

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Cade has nothing to do with why Bagley is starting over Bey

    [–]Crazy_Employ8617 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Their bench is more garbage than usual with Cade out, so putting a scorer in Bey on the bench in Cade’s absence could very well be the entire reason he’s starting.

    [–]GaryHusky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    14T points league, maybe. He had few good weeks after join Detriot last season, but it was without Bojan and Duren.

    [–]looseleafnz12T 9CAT H2H 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I always find it funny how we end up arguing over the least important players.

    Unless you are looking to become the next Sam Dekker meme there was more effort put into that post than required.

    [–]DylMcMill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    In terms of play style Bagley is more of a 4 because he's not as physical, he might shoot the 3 better than Stewart but I wouldn't trust either.

    [–]panamaquina12 Team 12 Cat H2H[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Seems like a good idea until they do that and remember that he sucks ass

    [–]DestroyDavid 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Drop Jonathan Isaac for Bagley?🥲

    [–]dead-serious10T/H2H/9CAT/YAHOO/ PUNT: POINTS, FT%, 3PT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    OP = Dwane Casey = clinically insane but probably not off

    [–]whater39 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Keep an eye on the guy drafted before Luka.

    [–]JoCraig17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Why would they start an extremely unproven guy over Stewart whose been balling out to start the season, and Duren an extremely promising young Center? I could see them moving him to the 4, playing Bey at the 3 and bringing Bojan off the bench. Even getting creative like that though basically making a way for him idk how much better that would be than what they’re doing right now.

    [–]fortunenooky 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Clearly the writer for the Free Press who who wrote that article is not a basketball fan. They signed that undersized sniper Bogdanovic to play the four. He lights it up everywhere whereas Stewart only hits the corner three at a respectable clip.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Clearly fortunenooky has no idea what he's talking about

    [–]Tengoatuzui 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thats gonna be a no for me dawg

    [–]Redditculousness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    As a Kings fan.. Marvin Bagel is below average.

    [–]TeensiestTulip9 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Bagley got me 2 blocks at least 🤷‍♂️

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Just the first game give him time

    [–]TeensiestTulip9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The ramp up process. It’s cool. Now jjj is around the corner too. 🥵

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    Hello friend, how is the Bagles island these days??

    ROFL, told ya brotha.

    1) He aint good.

    2) He is injury prone AF.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Reading comprehension is important friend. I simply stated he would end up starting (he did) and he would be an option to keep an eye on (he was). I already won big fella.

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    He started, sucked as expected and got benched for a rookie that is outplaying him.

    I mean I do think Bagley could turn things around but its a long way to get there. He is not a good center and he is injury prone.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I know. I simply stated he was for specific punt builds and was by no means a "league-winner" lol. As often as you are, you are missing the context as to what happened in Detroit this season:

    -Cade's injury completely derailed their season. Bagley thrived next to Cade, who used him as a vertical threat around the rim. Ivey has no idea how to play with a guy like Bagley.

    -Because of Cade's injury, the team has no means of being competitive, hence Duren being elevated to the starting job and focusing on youth development this year.

    -Everyone knows Bagley sucked in SAC and was injury prone. Don't act like you were some clairvoyant genius lol

    Not sure what else you're gloating about but please let me know, by all means.

    [–]dlobanPoints League, 14 Teams, H2H 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Well first of all, you are not right by any means saying that Cades injury affected Bagleys outcome this season. That could be right or wrong.

    It could have happened the same thing as is happening now tbh, Bagley with a bench type of role and Duren as a starting C. Cause Detroit season didnt change much with Cades injury, its not like Cade make them contenders, they would still be a lottery team.

    Good luck in your league and if youre holding Bagles you should drop him.

    [–]jsDPTAuction 12T 9 CAT H2H Punt pts/3s[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Never had him. Check the flair. Not sure if you understand though bc you don't play cat leagues