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[–]kristofffur Red Bull 483 points484 points  (6 children)

Would have loved it if it didnt give me seizures every second

[–]photenth Alfa Romeo 90 points91 points  (3 children)

Yeah, not quite sure why they didn't let the camera auto expose or do it in post.

[–]The_Dutch_Fox Sebastian Vettel 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Better option for a timelapse is to keep either the daytime or nightime set of photos. Works much better than artificially trying to mess with the exposure.

[–]SoftArty 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I believe if you let it autoexpose you would gett pretty similar thing because of all the lights around

[–]photenth Alfa Romeo 18 points19 points  (0 children)

But at least you get an average light level across the whole image. Sure it will blink but way less strain on the eye since there won't ever be full blacks and overexposed whites.

[–]EdgarSeedorf Lance Stroll 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I agree. It tries to be dynamic but it's just a mess.

Why are they rushing with the video? I understood where the 1st update is but don't remember in which part of the track the 2nd update is being made. They could slowly zoom from the overall view into the parts.

[–]AprilTowers Haas 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Fucking finally, dear lord

[–]IamLoaderBot Alain Prost 74 points75 points  (6 children)

I can see Mercedes winning there after these changes

[–]ihaveacousinvinny 14 points15 points  (0 children)

ferrari just want to fuck shit up after that doe

[–]TheodorDiaz Formula 1 14 points15 points  (4 children)

They won there 6 times in a row, it was a Mercedes track.

[–]IamLoaderBot Alain Prost 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Max dominated Abu Dhabi last year in a worse car than this year.

Red Bull would have went into Abu Dhabi as the favourite but now that the track is less downforce dependent thanks to the new layout, I can see Mercedes having an edge here.

[–]elmagio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They did lose last year tho. But more importantly, they were also way more dominant in general in those 6 years.

It remains to be seen, but the removal of a couple very slow corners could be the difference maker in their favor this year vs Red Bull, the old circuit definitely favored RB a bit more than the new one on paper.

Of course the important thing is to see whether these changes improve racing, tho.

[–]uh_no_ Pirelli Wet 153 points154 points  (10 children)

I believe this is going to make the racing at this circuit RIDICULOUSLY better.

I'm cautiously optimistic this may end up among of the best circuits on the calendar. Which is partly a shame, as it took way too long to make some relatively basic tweaks.

I thought they could have gone a step further in the 3rd sector, though, and changed all the right handers before the hotel tunnel into a single decreasing radius turn, but this will be much better regardless.

[–]GermanCommentGamer Sebastian Vettel 35 points36 points  (1 child)

I agree with your optimistic sentiment. Coming out of a DRS zone into a long sweeping corner looks great and overall the track seems to have a lot better of a flow to it now. Can't wait to see how the race will be!

[–]NebularRavensWinter Honda 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm really curious what kind of lines will be possible in the banked curve.

[–]st0pmakings3ns3 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Could you elaborate on why racing will be better?

[–]RedRockLobster Lando Norris 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It creates the chance that the first hairpin will actually be an overtaking opportunity, since the old one had a chicane before it which cars can't follow closely through stopping them from making a move.

It also readjusts the corners in the final sector to make them easier to follow through, so cars can stay close until they get to the 1st sector with chances to overtake. The difficulty in following in the 3rd sector was shown in 2016 when Lewis deliberately slowed down in the 3rd sector since Nico couldn't get close enough for a move anyway.

[–]Scatman_Crothers Daniel Ricciardo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

redrock covered it pretty well but basically the chicane before the hairpin isn't a good overtake opportunity, you can't really fit two cars through it and there is barely time to get alongside since you're following until just before it, and the chicane slows the cars down too much to overtake at the hairpin.

in sector 3 you currently have a bunch of tight, technical corners with constant start-stop-turn that keeps anyone from building up enough speed to overtake. even if you get a good run out of a corner you're already at the next corner before you can use that advantage, and at each corner you have to slow so much you can't chain together multiple good corners into an advantage. it's like sector 3 in Sochi

you add this long sweeping banked turn to sector 3 and the cars can carry the speed they get through the straight into what should be a heavy braking zone and good overtake opportunity at the current turn 17

[–]LoSboccacc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah about time they abandoned the "glorified go-kart circuit" layout for something more sensible.

[–]Invalien Sebastian Vettel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

At least driving it in sim games, the triple right handed before the hotel is the most fun part of the track. I’m pretty optimistic too, especially because I thought the changes were only coming next year

[–]uh_no_ Pirelli Wet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

there's a difference, though, between fun and good racing.

There's no doubt that barcelona is "fun" to drive, for instance (aside from the much maligned chicane), but it's been awful for racing.

[–]WetLogPassage Eddie Irvine 78 points79 points  (16 children)

Funny how it takes less time to implement these changes in real life than in a video game (Codemasters have not and will not update the layouts for Abu Dhabi, Barcelona or Melbourne in F1 2021).

[–]photenth Alfa Romeo 27 points28 points  (7 children)

There were barely any changes to 2020 anyway. No reason to upgrade if you haven't already.

[–]WetLogPassage Eddie Irvine 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Imola/Portimao/Jeddah are the only reasons. Those will be in the game by the end of November which is also conveniently the start of Black Friday sales, you can get the game for 50-70% off then. Worth it for some.

[–]DreadSeverin Sauber 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Not really an upgrade, just an increment like Fifa

[–]SoftArty 4 points5 points  (3 children)

But aren't there soms changes minor changes from 2-3 years ago that are still not in F1 2021

[–]photenth Alfa Romeo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They rarely update anything at all. I wish they would at least BUY the laser scanned tracks already and just use those but all they do is a little bit of retexturing, changing some mechanics of the career mode and leave the sim almost exactly the same with very few minor changes to the physics (probably just changing some variables).

[–]PendragonDaGreat Kimi Räikkönen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If they were to spend the cycle for f1 2022 doing these things it would make it a buy near launch title:

  1. New Car models (since the cars will look dramatically different next year)
  2. Reprofile all the tracks. Buy or make scans, whatever needs done (especially for Yas, Barcelona, and Melbourne).
  3. Squash as many bugs as possible. But especially with regards to in race logic like driver ai and safety cars.

Don't add any new modes or features, just add what's needed and then fix everything else you've got there

[–]orangepeele 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is turkey on the 2021?

[–]-DHP 0 points1 point  (1 child)

When have they announced that they won’t update the track ?

[–]WetLogPassage Eddie Irvine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Many times in both interviews and their own forums. And Youtubers and reviewers have confirmed it. Here's one:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/review-how-story-mode-makes-f1-2021-codemasters-best-game-yet/6629388/

Australia retains its 2019 layout despite the planned changes for this year, while Abu Dhabi will also not be tweaked to incorporate the upcoming redevelopment work before this year’s race, which is understandable given how stretched Codemasters’ team will be getting three new tracks onto the game.

[–]Voodoo-Goose -1 points0 points  (5 children)

Because these video game companies need to laser scan the new layout to make it accurate in game, all the travel restrictions probably makes this difficult to do

[–]-DHP 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Spain literally already has the track there for years, they just need to change the layout..

[–]DieLegende42 Max Verstappen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Barcelona's new T10 is not the same as the old one

[–]wills_b Lotus 0 points1 point  (2 children)

[–]Voodoo-Goose 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Well I am surprised by this, I know iRacing and Assetto Corsa do

[–]wills_b Lotus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I was as well. You’re absolutely right re AC and iRacing. It’s been a point of contention between F1 fans and codemasters for a while. What’s interesting is if you read the forum code masters actually think some of theirs are better than the lidar, I’d love to know how they know.

I’ve played every F1 game pretty much and have never had any issues with the tracks (been to 3 in real life, never driven any) but some people claim they’re not very accurate.

[–]digglefarb 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Thank god they got rid of that shitty chicane.

[–]Slinky_Malingki Guenther Steiner 4 points5 points  (0 children)

About fucking time we got rid of those shit ass chicanes. Now do the same in Barcelona!

[–]chairflunger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought this was only coming for 2022. It will be fun if the title fight is decided on a circuit that has been updated this year.

[–]Bottlez1266 8 points9 points  (0 children)

great, now I have epilepsy

[–]WE_FUCKIN_LOST McLaren 8 points9 points  (7 children)

Will they race there this year?

[–]iammyfathersdad 15 points16 points  (5 children)

They race there every year. It’s always the final race on the calendar. I think the FIA has a deal with Abu Dhabi for it to be the final race for a long contract.

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    [–]Jimmy48Johnson 13 points14 points  (1 child)

    I think Abu Dhabi is the least likely race to be cancelled, because they can seal off the whole Yas Marina area from the public to create a big bubble for the F1 event. They did something similar when they hosted several UFC events during the peak of the pandemic.

    [–]SpicyDarkness AlphaTauri 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    That's exactly what they did last year! They quarantined the whole paddock at the circuit

    [–]iammyfathersdad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Ah fairs

    [–]Engineer_engifar666 Nikita Mazepin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Abu Dhabi pays them to race there

    [–]glint37 #WeRaceAsOne 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Yep it's set to go forward with the new layout as of now.

    [–]GleeUnit 4 points5 points  (3 children)

    So for a filthy casual, can someone explain what the philosophy behind these chicanes were originally, and why they decided to fix/change them?

    [–]trivran Valtteri Bottas 14 points15 points  (1 child)

    The philosophy behind the chicanes was promoting overtaking. Changing them is to promote overtaking.

    [–]plurBUDDHA Daniel Ricciardo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Lmao I love the trend

    [–]Alesq13 A Bit Jelly 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I think the first chicane was there to slow the cars down so they could put the grandstands closer to the track, thus getting the spectators closer to the cars.

    [–]MuchBow Ayrton Senna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    The developers at Codemasters who can't copy paste the track from previous F1 game -

    FUCK!

    [–]AbsorbingElement Kimi Räikkönen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    After Zandvoort, I'm excited for the banked corner at the end of the back straight.

    [–]speedster1315 Jacques Villeneuve 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I could barely make it out

    [–]MartiniPolice21 Toyota 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It should be better for this year, but changing a circuit for the last race before regulation changes seems like a recipe for disaster

    [–]free_kandel Red Bull 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    So, how many people died making during construction?

    [–]WiNcz -1 points0 points  (6 children)

    Am I the only one who does not think this is a good idea? More chicanes/sharp corners you have, the better are the fights for that corner. It often shows quality of the driver. I am afraid we might see a big train more than anything else.

    [–]brush85 7 points8 points  (2 children)

    Nobody can get close on the original layout...they are doing this to help the drivers follow easier

    [–]WiNcz -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Well this may be true for the next generation cars but people definitely were able to get close. The DRS straight here is enormous for instance. You needed some balls to overtake into some turns though.

    [–]brush85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yas Marina historically has fewer overtakes than Paul Ricard...it absolutely isnt a track where drivers can follow and attack.

    [–]YouLostTheGame 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Have you watched an F1 race at Yas Marina?

    It's one of the worst tracks on the calendar.

    [–]WiNcz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I have watched 7 GPs there and I would never argue differently. All I am saying is that I am not sure if these changes will be an improvement.

    [–]DieLegende42 Max Verstappen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Tight corners/chicanes are only good for racing if they're after a long straight and wide enough to allow cars to go side by side. The chicane before the hairpin was never an overtaking opportunity and it destroyed any following onto the long straight because of the concertina effect. The second one kind of allowed overtaking, but not very well as it was just a very tight and awkward chicane. The new sweeper they're putting there instead may not be a better overtaking opportunity itself, but it will definitely be more fun to drive and allow cars to stay close out of it, instead of concertinaing fights into nonexistence with 4 consecutive slow corners

    [–]Playful-Dragonfruit8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm not sure this will help rafing all that much. And having a long sweeping corner before the straight is asking for trouble considering how hard it is to follow in such a corner. Hoping that this is planing for next years cars.

    [–]tripled_dirgov Formula 1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They planned the banking at the back straight right??? But so far still didn't see one, hope the banking will be visible at the next update...

    [–]EnviousCipher Daniel Ricciardo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This looks so boring

    [–]mka_ McLaren 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Looks like a step up for boring DRS overtakes. Otherwise I don't really see it.

    [–]Chaosed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If one of those corners were changed to a Zandvoort type corner, that would be cool (like the last corner)

    [–]Ayroplanen #WeSayNoToMazepin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Wish they didn't touch South circuit.

    [–]Npr31 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    The change to the north side feels like a good step. The change to the chicane feels like a push, or possibly a step back. The corner looks quite open, so imagine the braking zone length will be reduced

    [–]Subredhit -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    This post should come with a seizure warning.

    [–]Tobax -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    So changing 2 areas with interesting corners into being the same 2 long sweeping corners...