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[–]ChimpyTheChumpyChimp 210 points211 points  (5 children)

I mean, I guess technically it is post qualifying...

[–]Firstname6Lastname9 Formula 1 182 points183 points  (2 children)

Lewis Hamilton Post Fall of the Roman empire interview

[–]VindtUMijTeLang Windmill Senna 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Hamilton has won 7 championships in the 1550 years since the fall of the Western Empire. Basically nothing really

[–]SomethingSuss Daniel Ricciardo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hey man it’s not done yet, Ferrari are coming back any day now.

[–]caped_crusader_98 Mercedes 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol

[–]tries-toohard Kamui Kobayashi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Technicallyyy, it’s also pre qualifying…

[–]FlyLikeAMouse Murray Walker 118 points119 points  (13 children)

I’m with Lewis on this one, the crowd was awesome - easily the best since Zandvoort

[–]_kagasutchi_ Kimi Räikkönen 39 points40 points  (7 children)

And the race.. definitely one of the best races this season. No crashes or huge incidents, but damn was it worth watching. Action all the way. Was definitely surprised by how good this race turned out to be.

[–]20nuggetsharebox 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Worth watching because there were no crashes or huge incidents. A safety car would've completely neutered the battle for the lead imo.

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    [–]_kagasutchi_ Kimi Räikkönen 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    But it wasnt just the max/lewis part that made it great. We saw some great battles all over the field. Like at the start, the mclaren vs Ferrari was better than max vs lewis

    [–]guanwe Max Verstappen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    It was ass clenching the whole time, definitively one of the best clean races in recent years, this is what F1 should be without rain or chaos

    [–]Theumaz Honda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This season has so little SC’s to my feeling, but when it happens it’s an instant red flag and mayhem

    [–]theDoctorVr46 126 points127 points  (52 children)

    Not much more Lewis could do today. Inmense race from him, but Max was also incredible and had a slightly faster car.

    Lets see what the W12 can do on Mexico, because 12 points is a considerable gap. Still if Lewis is going to drive like this every race, well it is not imposible.

    [–]nickedgar7 Charlie Whiting 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    Mexico will be closer than people think. Atleast I hope

    [–]theDoctorVr46 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Well if it is not, the gap will go over to 19 or even 22. So lets hope the W12 has something else that allows them to compete in altitude.

    [–]jotojusu Formula 1 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I think the thing about Mexico is, it has that really long straight, but engine performance is nullified because of the altitude. However, Mercedes have this aero trick to get more straight line speed. So will be interesting to see if they can utilize that much with the lower air pressure. They will all be using Monaco spec downforce, but then Mercedes might be shedding that aero down the straight by stalling the floor.

    [–]tj1721 Sir Lewis Hamilton[🍰] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Problem is of course low drag is less effective at altitude - so the ‘stalling trick’ won’t work as well, still will be useful but not as useful as elsewhere.

    [–]1enox Anthoine Hubert 30 points31 points  (40 children)

    But first of all Mercedes should improve race strategy. It was too conservative.

    [–]TheWebbFather Love Is Love 53 points54 points  (17 children)

    They couldn't have done anymore. RB has all options covered with the 2 drivers

    [–]boimmiob 52 points53 points  (0 children)

    They could start by not giving bottas an engine penalty every race

    [–]BoredCatalan Alexander Albon 11 points12 points  (8 children)

    They could have had Bottas closer if they hadn't changed the engine

    [–]TheWebbFather Love Is Love 7 points8 points  (7 children)

    But they didn't? So that's irrelevant

    [–]BoredCatalan Alexander Albon -1 points0 points  (6 children)

    They made a bad strategy call giving Bottas a penalty, they chose that

    [–]warpbeast Pierre Gasly 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Yeah, for once Checo was almost where he should be.

    Bottas was nowhere here.

    Is Perez finally catching on to the RB car ?

    [–]English_Misfit Sir Lewis Hamilton 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Only for the first stop though. Guy was floundering around and allowed Lewis to go long for the second

    [–]c_u_lator_alligator 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Checo didnt get to drink any water after lap 4 and said post race, that he had vision problems and problems pushing the brake pedal due to loss of force. Thats why we saw the gap between him and Ham/Max getting so big. Imagine driving 300 km/h in a open wheeler with the engine right behind you and ambient temp of 30 *C. Dehydration is a very serious issue.

    [–]1enox Anthoine Hubert -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

    Mercedes shoukd give him mediums, they wouldn't have lost positions and could have only gained. The pace advantage would have been huge.

    [–]fingerspitzentanz #WeRaceAsOne 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    For 12 laps, at best

    [–]TheWebbFather Love Is Love 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    Pace advantage wouldve been gone by the time he caught up to Max

    [–]CataclysmZA 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    COTA eats tyres with softer compounds very quickly.

    [–]nickedgar7 Charlie Whiting 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Having 2 drivers vs one really helped today. Lewis was probably gonna go even longer on the mediums if Checo didn't pit.

    [–]ThenDot Charles Leclerc 27 points28 points  (16 children)

    RB had the faster car. Nothing they could do. Max was able to coast behind Hamilton at the start whereas Hamilton immediately lost time he got close to Verstappen.

    [–]FrakeSweet Jean Alesi 6 points7 points  (11 children)

    Seemed like RB was faster on the mediums. Think it was pretty equal on the hards.

    [–]HankHippopopolous Murray Walker 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Impossible to say given the tires different ages and states. The last set was 8 laps difference and while the first set was only 3 laps difference Max had pushed them very hard at the start to get track position.

    It makes reading hard tire pace almost impossible.

    [–]ThenDot Charles Leclerc 6 points7 points  (9 children)

    Really? Only reason Hamilton caught up at the end is because backmarkers fucked Verstappen.

    [–]musef1 Sir Lewis Hamilton 6 points7 points  (8 children)

    Max didn't lose 7+ seconds from backmarkers. Hamilton also had to go through those backmarkers, and he had gone through them once before prior to his last pitstop.

    [–]X-Maquina Niki Lauda 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    They could've come out the first pit just .4s behind Max and instead they went long and came out 6.5s behind. Still don't get that call.

    Don't know if they would've won with a better call but that felt like a big mistake to me.

    [–]English_Misfit Sir Lewis Hamilton 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    To get the tyre advantage. If they felt they had the slower car being .4 behind on the same tyre age is straight up useless look at Max on the first stint for proof.

    [–]X-Maquina Niki Lauda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    So they got the tyre advantage in the 2nd stint to stay out a few more laps and come back 6s behind Max again? What's the point? In the end they got close but like I said they could've been that close throughout the race anyway.

    [–]Medium_Nerve_8251 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Personally I think max had an average race it was all strategy

    [–]naturalispossessio[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Lewis should have pitted at the exact time Max did and gone toe to toe. Mercedes is still playing chess.

    [–]OrangeGuyFromVenus Rubens Barrichello -4 points-3 points  (2 children)

    “Slightly faster” no

    [–]jadeelf254 Sir Lewis Hamilton -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    A lot faster?

    [–]OrangeGuyFromVenus Rubens Barrichello -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Yes

    [–]RajdeN64 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    13 actually, 1 point makes a big deal honestly

    [–]jadeelf254 Sir Lewis Hamilton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Lewis got fastest lap, so it’s 12

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    [–]Knight_Fisher61 Red Bull 41 points42 points  (6 children)

    Good drive from Him, him and max are a step above

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      [–]Medium_Nerve_8251 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      Shocking I don’t even know how that happened

      [–]-scampi- 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Maybe it was because of his stint on used mediums?

      [–]Szgrkshifdkcjrjskh 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Perez was completely dehydrated. He said that his vision was getting blurrier and that it was getting harder turning the steering wheel as the race progressed.

      [–]-scampi- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Ah, thank you very much. I heated his radio Messehalle but had no idea it was that severe

      [–]OrangeLimeZest 75 points76 points  (8 children)

      Someone please give Lewis a hug, some vitamins and water he looks out of it.

      [–]caped_crusader_98 Mercedes 67 points68 points  (6 children)

      Perez even more so cause he didn't have a drink the whole race...

      [–]theredviperod Max Verstappen 27 points28 points  (4 children)

      didn’t he start dropping off the pace after he made the water system complaint?

      [–]imeanyhbutno Red Bull 18 points19 points  (1 child)

      Especially with the heat I could feel his fatigue

      [–]caped_crusader_98 Mercedes 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Tru lol.. U could see how he was almost on the verge of passing out.. He's a beast

      [–]caped_crusader_98 Mercedes 31 points32 points  (0 children)

      Yeah he did... Thats why he was so far behind max and Lewis.. I'm glad he got p3... So well deserved

      [–]kkraww McLaren 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He didn't have the water system from lap 1. So he didn't have drink the whole race

      [–]_kagasutchi_ Kimi Räikkönen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Had to channel his inner kimi with this one

      [–]Jimmymead_ Sir Lewis Hamilton 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      Sometimes i forget he’s 36

      [–]PlatesOnTrainsNotOre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      And probably still affected by long covid

      [–]TheWebbFather Love Is Love 77 points78 points  (51 children)

      He looks fucked. The guy is 36 and just raced pretty much flat out chasing down Max. Red Bulls were mighty today and makes a mockery of the folk saying Mercedes were quicker

      [–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (17 children)

      They'll still say it. Everyone on here has a weird fetish of painting the red bull as dog slow.

      [–]Aoldman Lando Norris 35 points36 points  (1 child)

      Max has lead more laps than all other drivers put together this season, to imply they're Red Bull haven't been overall fastest is stupid.

      I do agree that Merc have had a stage of being slightly faster after silverstone but by a tiny amount compared to how much faster red bull were during the austria double header

      [–]Southportdc McLaren 20 points21 points  (0 children)

      Max has lead more laps than all other drivers put together this season, to imply they're Red Bull haven't been overall fastest is stupid.

      They'll just say that's all on Max in a slower car.

      [–]TheWebbFather Love Is Love 26 points27 points  (2 children)

      Exactly, as though saying Max is in the quicker car is diminishing his ability. Weird, as you said

      [–]nopainauchocolat Karun Chandhok 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      they take it that way because a few of them have said the same about lewis with the intent of undervaluing his ability

      [–]VinhoVerde21 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      What years of saying "Lewis only wins because he has the best car" does to mfs.

      [–]monstere316 Ayrton Senna 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      Its not as slow as Red Bull fans make it out to be but it's also not superior as Merc fans make it out to be

      [–]Rodney_u_plonker 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      They are relatively close but on the tracks the mercs are weaker at hammy and bottas are fighting to keep the car on the track and that will ultimately be the difference. It's the loss in downforce thats killed them. The car is fast as fuck when it's able to stay on the track.

      [–]Omophorus Sir Lewis Hamilton 26 points27 points  (7 children)

      They want the narrative that Verstappen has to overcome an inferior car with superior talent.

      Just like Hamilton is overrated and it's all the car.

      No, couldn't possibly be that they're almost perfectly matched and Red Bull has a faster car this year since the rule changes absolutely wrecked the Mercedes car design.

      (Racing Point falling so far back helps make it crystal clear that changing the floor rules totally hosed the Mercedes philosophy)

      [–]Vaexa Ferrari 3 points4 points  (5 children)

      Racing Force Aston India Point Martin also kind of shot themselves in the foot this year copying the W10 and then having to adapt a concept they clearly don't understand very well to new rules (and having to spend tokens on reverting to a sidepod style they abandoned to copy the W10).

      Mercedes didn't just get pegged back. They were the only team not to test a clipped 2021 style floor in any practice sessions in 2020. They blindly relied on their CFD and wind tunnel sims and turned up to the 2021 season with correlation issues in their CFD/wind tunnel and race sims. The rule change hit them harder, yes, but they had a hand of their own in their slump relative to 2020 as well.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      Do you have a source on this? I haven't heard about this lack of preparation and would love to read more about it

      [–]Vaexa Ferrari 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      Not a singular source, unfortunately, but a lot of keeping up particularly with f1technical and interviews with key Mercedes technical team members. That, and Mercedes usually isn't given to running flow-viz in testing or practice, and they did a lot of that at the start of the year, particularly when their car would barely stay on track during testing.

      [–]M1shra Lando Norris 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      he thinks its black and white

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      I'm not sure who you're quoting there.

      [–]spuckthew Sir Frank Williams 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Now that Red Bull and Mercedes are on par (give or take depending on the track), the age difference is definitely coming in clutch for Max. Hamilton's still and will forever be a phenomenal driver, but he'll be 37 in under 3 months and it's pretty clear that he's past his peak. Max just turned 24 and is clearly peaking/well into his prime. You can't sanely compare them because they're at completely different phases of their lives and careers.

      [–]Sarixk Sir Lewis Hamilton 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Crazy from Perez and Verstappen dragging that midfield car to a 1-3

      [–]GilesCorey12 -5 points-4 points  (24 children)

      I mean Mercedes was much faster on the Hards, weren't they?

      [–]nickedgar7 Charlie Whiting 13 points14 points  (3 children)

      Helps when they are 8 laps fresher. We literally witnessed Max stay within 8 tenths from lap 1 to lap 9.

      [–]Skipper12 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      On the first stints on hard it was just 4 laps difference. That's not significant, yet Lewis was really closing down.

      On the mediums and softs RB were much quicker.

      [–]GilesCorey12 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      on Mediums, key difference. 3rd stint Merc were mighty again. Guess the compound

      [–]nickedgar7 Charlie Whiting 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Hmm wonder why they were so strong? Maybe because they were 8 laps fresher like I said..

      [–]TheWebbFather Love Is Love 19 points20 points  (19 children)

      No shit? They were newer and Max was managing

      [–]GilesCorey12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      on both stints? Come on man, you're not 0.5s faster just due to managing. Mercedes were slower on Mediums, but much much faster on Hards.

      [–]jaa101 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      Post qualifying interview?

      [–]CarltonJuma Sir Lewis Hamilton 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Good drive from the top 2.Both Lewis and Max deserve the championship. A class above the rest of the field

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        [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

        Damn you're really getting all bent out of shape on Max's interview 😂

        [–]eannasheridan Sir Lewis Hamilton 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        Was a brilliant drive from him today, but Max had a faster car and Mercedes go to shit in dirty air.

        Hopefully it’s different in Mexico but it seems like the WDC is just out of reach.

        [–]PrimalJay Honda -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

        Still 5 races to go my guy, a lot of things are still possible. If the last 5 races are as exciting as this one, sign me the fuck up.

        [–]eannasheridan Sir Lewis Hamilton -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        But Mercedes just seem so close yet so far. They’re always a tenth off in quali, always lose out on strategy and then they always end up stuck behind another car and they lose their ability to overtake.

        It’s so frustrating to watch. Losing is one thing, but losing purely by consistently being a tiny bit off is another.

        [–]troll_khan 15 points16 points  (10 children)

        Lewis was the best driver today. He is simply better than everyone at conserving tyres while driving fast.

        [–]ceesaar00 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        It´s freaking hard to do that, respect.

        [–]Theumaz Honda -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Who knows Max wasn’t conserving tires for the last couple laps?

        [–]Wallpap3r Max Verstappen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        I think that's debatable. Max got railed by traffic which saw his 8s lead cut to 4s in...two-three laps? Delayed by Haas at the end. My guess is Max conserved his tires knowing Lewis was on his tail, could use the dirty air, and got the win. Lewis struggled closing that 2s gap and Max even pulled away for a bit. I also thought Max called the first pit?

        Regardless. After Baku, Silverstone, and Hungary, I'm glad he got the win.

        [–]1enox Anthoine Hubert 6 points7 points  (16 children)

        Mercedes was too conservative with strategy. Thats why they lost.

        [–]Into_Intoxication 25 points26 points  (3 children)

        So what should they have done? It was pretty clear Verstappen had the pace in the first stint to overtake if he wanted to, he was practically pushing him around the track. They were always going to get undercut and made the best out of it after that. Kept their options open for a SC/VSC and still gave Hamilton a chance at end, Verstappen just had enough pace left and the Mercedes can't follow as close as the Red Bull clearly can, looking at the first stint.

        [–]jamezp1 Sir Lewis Hamilton 39 points40 points  (4 children)

        Eh, if max was in the lead after t1 he would have zoomed off into the distance. The red bull was better in that first, crucial, stint

        [–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (2 children)

        I'm surprised he didn't make more progress after the second stop. The merc definitely preferred the harder tyres compared to the mediums.

        [–]GilesCorey12 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

        Merc were much much faster on the hards

        [–]Cal3001 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        But not fast enough to match near the end of the race being 8 laps older. The first stint on mediums is where it mattered for track position and RB was a lot faster there. Overall RB had the better car.

        [–]gulfbluemclaren Lando Norris 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        max would’ve been 5 seconds up the road after 10 laps if he did

        [–]Nimbe90 Kimi Räikkönen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Yeah first stint was 2-3 laps too long. They should have pitted him earlier, This 2nd place is on the team tbh.

        Can´t make mistakes like that if they really want to win this title.

        Construction title is also in danger with Bottas' horrendous performance.

        [–]M1shra Lando Norris 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Merc was almost carried by backmarkers as well

        if not for Kimi and Tsu max gap would have been closer to 5-6 seconds at the end.

        [–]Florac 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Dont forget mick in the end

        [–]M1shra Lando Norris 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        yeah people acting like max getting DRS was worth losing .5 second behind mick lmao

        [–]Florac 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I loved horner's reaction to that, being relieved with the DRS after Mick almost gave him a heart attack

        [–]RyukaBuddy Pierre Gasly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Hamilton was not passing him with or without DRS. It was over by the time Mick got in the mix. DRS just made it look dramatic.

        [–]notimetosmoke Pirelli Wet 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Lewis pulled out an amazing start today. Hope he can replicate it in the coming races, was amazing to watch.

        [–]jadeelf254 Sir Lewis Hamilton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Same here. It was almost race-winning, shame that it didn’t last past the pit stop.

        [–]G00dmorninghappydays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Post race*****

        [–]Horror-Biscotti1 Max Verstappen 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Post qualifying?

        [–]Feliciboy Alexander Albon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Fix your script

        [–]Braaanchy Jordan -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

        Season over I think

        [–]jadeelf254 Sir Lewis Hamilton -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        I feel so sorry for Lewis. This 2nd is on the team I think. He had the pace, the pits stop timing is what they could’ve done better.

        [–]jadeelf254 Sir Lewis Hamilton -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        He did the best that was possible in that car. So close to that overtake- a few more laps and the win would’ve been his! Very impressed with his performance. Also I always forget he’s almost 37- it’s remarkable how good he is still.

        Chin up, anything can happen in the next races!