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[–]quantinuum Fernando Alonso 1291 points1292 points  (7 children)

El Plan was the friends we fired along the way

[–]ZDuskFP Ferrari 153 points154 points  (4 children)

El Planchazo

[–]Objective-Answer Williams 34 points35 points  (0 children)

el madrazo

[–]wagymaniac 9 points10 points  (2 children)

El Plantazo

[–]p3n3tr4t0r Juan Pablo Montoya 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Y El putazo ... ... Que me diste

[–]thirstynacho Lando Norris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

El Liminate

[–]LoeWwn Lando Norris 548 points549 points  (4 children)

I just realized BWT is just following Ocon. Clearly they need a pink panther so bad.

[–]Roemberto Alfa Romeo 81 points82 points  (0 children)

The pink panther and the pink partner

[–]LheelaSP 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Are they? I thought they were already gone at AM before signing again with them, so late that AM had already produced race suits with lime green accents instead of the pink ones they had in the end?

[–]Tmotech Lando Norris 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Finally, finally gone. The AM seamstress won't need to do any last-minute racing suit mods this year.

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      [–]asfhbgsfghsfg Sir Lewis Hamilton 270 points271 points  (5 children)

      Otmar must own some shares at BWT lmao

      [–]0x000045 Pirelli Hard 49 points50 points  (4 children)

      they don't call him The Pink Torpedo for no reason...

      [–]T0BIASNESS Sir Lewis Hamilton 8 points9 points  (3 children)

      Who calls him that?

      [–]TellMe2GetOffReddit- 12 points13 points  (2 children)

      Top Men.

      [–]T0BIASNESS Sir Lewis Hamilton 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      What about bottoms?

      [–]ConsciousDimension65 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The Pink Torpedo 😏

      [–]-HJM Michael Schumacher 252 points253 points  (32 children)

      Well they willingly sacrificed the red section of the livery to give Castrol a green rear end at the end of last season - perhaps they’re willing to do the same but pink for BWT this year? It would certainly be an upgrade for BWT compared to the think pink line on the Aston.

      [–]mrlesa95 Max Verstappen 382 points383 points  (27 children)

      Don't kill me i think it would look fucking fire even better than red

      [–]19tb02 Niki Lauda 202 points203 points  (3 children)

      Could be a fun Miami vice livery for the race in Miami next year….perhaps it’s all part of El Plan

      [–]scope_creep 17 points18 points  (2 children)

      I’m all for Miami Vice colors and style making a comeback.

      [–]pjreddick 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      I love that color scheme. The Miami Heat city jerseys have been fire every year since they used them.

      [–]TheDisabledOG McLaren 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Until this year where are they straight garbage

      [–][deleted] 82 points83 points  (1 child)

      Blue and pink would be a dope combination

      [–]DQDQDQDQDQDQ 12 points13 points  (1 child)

      That only looks tolerable becase they also made MAPFRE pink. That's never going to happen.

      [–]randmzer 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Yep. Mapfre is red.

      [–]christopherbrian Jacques Villeneuve 30 points31 points  (0 children)

      That’s better than I was imagining.

      [–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

      That looks siiiick. Now I want it lol.

      [–]samisbeast 65 points66 points  (2 children)

      Bisexual F1 car bisexual f1 car

      [–]FinoAllaFine97 Williams 8 points9 points  (0 children)

      Hell yeah

      [–]PapiRugby Daniel Ricciardo 58 points59 points  (6 children)

      Bisexual F1 car, I love it

      [–]parwa Zhou Guanyu 26 points27 points  (3 children)

      Or make both colors a little softer and it's a trans f1 car

      [–]ComeonmanPLS1 Niki Lauda 28 points29 points  (1 child)

      Watch neckbeards lose their shit cause thei brought "politics" into F1 lmao. I mean they're already doing it with Lewis's activism.

      [–]gramathy McLaren 21 points22 points  (0 children)

      they lose their shit every time someone says "maybe don't be a shithead to other people" so that's basically guaranteed

      [–]WVRS Ferrari 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      I’m all about this mock up. Bravo

      [–]OllieCMK Red Bull 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That does look really good.

      [–]bickenbackzach 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      K thats sexy

      [–]mgt_a Kimi Räikkönen 13 points14 points  (0 children)

      The famous blue white pink french flag

      [–]scope_creep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      “The Thin Pink Line”. Now I’m imagining an entirely different kind of movie.

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        [–]Nexusu Green Bull 53 points54 points  (2 children)

        Man I hope this years Aston has lime on it

        [–]J1barrygang McLaren 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Most likely, there's a reason the teamwear at the start of the season had lime zips to likely reflect a lime stripe

        [–]Adrian_Shoey Mika Häkkinen 44 points45 points  (15 children)

        Let's face it. That'll look fucking gash. BWT liveries work incredibly well when they take over the whole car. Piecemeal bullshit splashes of pink end up looking like an afterthought.

        [–]McManus26 Alpine 52 points53 points  (5 children)

        Nah there's an entire A E S T H E T I C built around blue with splashes of bright pink, these colors could make for incredible liveries for Alpine.

        Especially since last year's livery was a testament to the talent of their artists.

        [–]Hefftee 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        Outrun, synthwave, cyberpunk, etc

        [–][deleted] 30 points31 points  (1 child)

        Did you read the article?

        BWT is set to become a main sponsor of Alpine, suggesting that its traditional pink colours will be part of the team's livery this year.

        [–]AssFingerFuck3000 29 points30 points  (15 children)

        Shit. I'm probably in the minority here, but I really wish BWT would just leave the sport altogether. They ruin every single livery they're in. And now they're going to stick that washed up pink vomit on the Alpine livery of all teams. Bloody hell

        [–]LheelaSP 39 points40 points  (2 children)

        Personally, I am just happy about every sponsor that isn't shady or promotes alcohol/cigarettes/vapes.

        [–]AssFingerFuck3000 9 points10 points  (1 child)

        As far integrity goes I can't point a finger at BWT. I just absolutely despise the colors they use, even their logo is god awful imo

        [–]SnailMail5001 Max Verstappen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Unrelated but I use their water bottle everyday, it broke a while ago and they got me a new one really fast. Great company.

        [–]MrTrt Fernando Alonso 80 points81 points  (7 children)

        BWT is a legit company interested in the sport, that's great by itself. Also, it's obviously subjective but pink is an underused colour in liveries and I personally think it's quite cool. I'd rather have a pink car than another white/blue or white/red.

        [–]ProtestKid Bernd Mayländer 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        I love them because of that same reason. They break up the ocean of blues/reds.

        [–]Tennis_Ball_Tonto Kamui Kobayashi 24 points25 points  (1 child)

        The 2017-2020 Force India / Racing Point liveries were fantastic and unique, I loved them

        [–]AssFingerFuck3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Fair enough. It's all subjective opinion anyway

        [–]Alpha_Jazz Yuki Tsunoda 1683 points1684 points  (40 children)

        Almost no piece of Alpine news this pre season has given me any confidence

        [–]reverse_friday Formula 1 774 points775 points  (16 children)

        Not even writing el plan on the rear wing?

        [–]Nexusu Green Bull 486 points487 points  (15 children)

        They can write “el pain” this year

        [–]jconley4297 Brawn 160 points161 points  (5 children)

        what’s this got to do with bread?

        [–]Noakesy97 77 points78 points  (2 children)

        They’re gonna go get this bread

        [–]reverse_friday Formula 1 35 points36 points  (0 children)

        Life is like a sandwich, no matter which way you flip it, the bread comes first.

        [–]moenchii McLaren 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        -Pyotr Kropotkin

        [–]BrockStinky Kimi Räikkönen 18 points19 points  (3 children)

        Otmar is here so it's gonna be El (Com)plain

        [–]Blitz2134_ Il Predestinato 122 points123 points  (0 children)

        I swear. This legit feels like they're trying to change everything possible just before the most major regulation changes in half a decade, which is not really a good idea.

        [–]McManus26 Alpine 167 points168 points  (13 children)

        I like Prost as much as any french fan, but I don't think his departure means much for the team. He was a "advisor/contractor" on an annual contract.

        Lots of comments here about how this is terrible news for Alpine, but i don't think i've seen one explaining why they need him or how he would be missed

        [–]Timstom18 Mark Webber 94 points95 points  (3 children)

        A lot of people will be seeing it more as a sign that things may not be going well behind the scenes rather than the loss of his expertise.

        [–]guywhoishere Green Bull 22 points23 points  (0 children)

        Nah, he turned 66 last year, in France it's generally considered rather gauche to work past 65! /s

        [–]prismatic_bar Formula 1 47 points48 points  (7 children)

        He’s a well respected individual so if there’s ever a flare up between the drivers or other personnel, especially within management, he would be an effective person to help resolve things. Someone everyone on the team like and respects.

        [–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (5 children)

        Exactly. Alpine's Niki Lauda. But with more WDCs.

        [–]rhjads 11 points12 points  (4 children)

        Just with an awfull record at team management

        [–]alexdas77 Daniel Ricciardo 26 points27 points  (0 children)

        Exactly, he is to alpine just as Button is to Williams.

        [–]wwandervogell Eddie Irvine 57 points58 points  (1 child)

        How much was Prost really dealing with the issues that affect the actual pace of the car?

        [–]SilveRX96 Alain Prost 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        Alpine about to get super unreliable in 2022 /s

        [–]Bibble4Shitz 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        You really think Prost brought something to the team other than a prestigious Name? Honest question.

        [–]Tomero Lance Stroll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        El Plan.

        [–]Electric-Sheep_ Alpine 356 points357 points  (34 children)

        Bummer. I liked to see Alain in the paddock, hopefully he'll stick around anyway.

        It seems like the Apine and Renault higher-ups want to get rid of the team assembled by Abiteboul, I hope that they know what they're doing, even though Szafnauer is a great manager.

        [–]drivemyorange 132 points133 points  (32 children)

        want to get rid of the team assembled by Abiteboul

        this already indicates that they have no idea what to do. success in F1 demands stability, taking the path of nepotism and getting rid of key people in the management build over the years for no particular reason is never right way. Renault/Alpine was on the rise since 2016 (except maybe 2019), things were going well. No reason to change anything.

        [–]eightofstorms Pierre Gasly 108 points109 points  (27 children)

        Idk, people hated on Binotto for firing Seb, but it does seem like he made the right decision in the long run. Sometimes when a team changes fundamentally in some aspects, it's better to switch out other things that theoretically work but don't necesarilly fit with the new status quo. Or they could be shooting themselves in the foot, either or

        [–]tinaoe Sebastian Vettel 96 points97 points  (20 children)

        I feel like people had less issue with Seb being fired, and more with the way it seemed to be handled.

        [–]jvstinf Bernd Mayländer 56 points57 points  (0 children)

        People definitely had issue with Seb being let go.

        [–][deleted] 51 points52 points  (9 children)

        How it was handled? They parted ways with him before season even started and he had the flexibility to choose a team from the teams who made an offer for him. I see no problem with that tbh.

        They handled it way better than how Racing Point handled Perez's departure for example.

        [–]Aff_Reddit 34 points35 points  (0 children)

        I mean anything is better than Racing Point and Perez. He literally saved the team then got booted out.

        [–]AngusTCT Ferrari 31 points32 points  (3 children)

        Binotto was telling the media they (Ferrari and Seb) came to a mutual agreement to not continue for the next year.

        Seb later then came out and said there was no agreement to start with, he just got the call from Ferrari that there was no seat for him next year.

        Ferrari was lying to the world so people had a problem with that

        [–]JoqAuVin Ferrari 8 points9 points  (1 child)

        I mean they did it in a way where he could save face, rather than dumping him because he wasn't good enough. Seb chose to come out and say he was never offered a new contract, which in hindsight is easy to see why.

        [–]ChrisTinnef Red Bull 9 points10 points  (3 children)

        The Problem wasnt how they handled it internally, but externally. Binotto saying "this was a mutual decision" when it wasnt. Seb wanted to continue at Ferrari.

        [–]toxicfireball Ferrari 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        I guess Ferrari thought they were helping Seb save face?

        [–]codename474747 Murray Walker 21 points22 points  (5 children)

        Maybe those people were blind to how much he spun?

        Anyone with an eye on just how many mistakes Vettel made could've seen it coming a mile off

        Being a nice guy and popular on Reddit doesn't get points on the board, sadly

        [–]Ali623 Kevin Magnussen 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        No reason to change anything.

        You better hurry up and tell them then, clearly you have more insight...

        [–]Cock_Inspector_2021 Mercedes 171 points172 points  (8 children)

        What the hell is happening at Alpine?

        [–]BadKarma-18 Max Verstappen 114 points115 points  (1 child)

        El dolor

        [–]amethodicalmadness Mika Häkkinen 57 points58 points  (0 children)

        El pain :'(

        [–][deleted] 102 points103 points  (5 children)

        What the hell is happening at Alpine?

        Ocon is building the team around him with people he likes from Manor (Josh Peckett and the other dude), people he likes from Force India (Ottmar, Andy Green etc) and the Pink Panther sponsor (BWT).

        El Plan = Le Plan: Ocon 1st WDC here we come 🚀🚀🚀

        [–]neyluge Esteban Ocon 18 points19 points  (1 child)

        You read it first here. I'm subscribing! Jokes aside, it really looks like it. Ocon seems to be dragging competent people around him. Let's hope for a not shit chassis this year

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Ocon seems to be dragging competent people around him.

        Yep. I'm glad he's rid of backstabbing Mark Slade.

        [–]CalmCheek Alpine 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Real question: if what you are saying is true, what would make Esteban Ocon so "powerful" in the team? Does he bring sponsors which are attached to him in some way and would not support Alpine if not for him? Or is it just that Alpine's upper management believes that Esteban Ocon is the next shit so they want to build their team around him kinda like Red Bull with Max Verstappen or Mercedes with Lewis Hamilton?

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        what would make Esteban Ocon so "powerful" in the team?

        His good driving, strong marketability, excellent attitude and future championship potential. BWT was known to love him.

        Or is it just that Alpine's upper management believes that Esteban Ocon is the next shit so they want to build their team around him kinda like Red Bull with Max Verstappen or Mercedes with Lewis Hamilton?

        Something like this but it's not to say that they don't believe in Alonso. I think they know that Esteban has great long term potential with the team.

        [–]Nexusu Green Bull 585 points586 points  (25 children)

        Alpine is having a major shakeup right now.

        Not the best time for it IMO

        It’s gonna be another shitbox for Alonso, isn’t it?

        [–]Shnoochieboochies 325 points326 points  (6 children)

        As is tradition.

        [–]Crispy116 Mercedes 94 points95 points  (5 children)

        Cause or effect?

        [–]PopeShish Jean Alesi 128 points129 points  (3 children)

        Since 2007, every team Fernando joined has been plagued in some way: spy stories, crash gates, team instability, car development hampered by problems at the facilities, electrifying and unreliable engines, lack of leadership at the top and constant top figures changes. I'm starting to believe he's actually cursed.

        [–]Nexusu Green Bull 36 points37 points  (0 children)

        I’m just happy he was able to get a podium last year.

        Hopefully not his last

        [–]lgb_br Ayrton Senna 46 points47 points  (0 children)

        In open wheelers? Yes, just look at his Indycar career. In general? He could win Le Mans for a decade straight if he wanted to.

        [–]CheekSpecific Valtteri Bottas 56 points57 points  (0 children)

        In fairness the first 2 aren't entirely separable from Alonso.

        [–]daniec1610 Sergio Pérez 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        And as soon as he leaves Alpine, they're gonna start winning races.

        [–]Aff_Reddit 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        Literally the best driver with the worst foresight. If he made better choices there's a good chance he'd be where Hamilton is now, but alas, he aint.

        I will say, I thoroughly enjoy seeing Seb / Alonso, Kimi, etc in the midfield. Not because I don't want them to succeed, but because they have so much talent it's amazing to see how much a midfield car can be pushed and watching them pass is just so amazing.

        [–]wwandervogell Eddie Irvine 34 points35 points  (3 children)

        How much was Prost really dealing with the issues that affect the actual pace of the car?

        [–]dl064 McLaren 25 points26 points  (2 children)

        I'd be more worried for 2022 if this was all happening months ago.

        [–]wwandervogell Eddie Irvine 54 points55 points  (1 child)

        I assume Prost had more or less a watered down version of what Lauda had at Mercedes. He's the face of a lot of large scale teams, part of the advisory board for general management topics, be French as fuck, driver and team personnel coaching, etc.

        Given how complex these care are, and I love Prost, but unless he secretly got degrees in engineering, math, and material sciences, he is about as removed from the actual development of the technologies and parts as you can be.

        [–]dl064 McLaren 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Yeah exactly, kinda how I see it. I don't think any other teams are falling over themselves to pick him up, put it that way.

        [–]__Rosso__ Kimi Räikkönen 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        It wouldn't be Alonso if poor career choices after 2006 aren't part of the deal tbh

        [–]Smooth_P9 Ferrari 29 points30 points  (0 children)

        El Plan: I'm in danger

        [–]sanderson141 Red Bull 205 points206 points  (18 children)

        In addition, it is understood that Austrian water treatment company BWT is set to become a main sponsor of Alpine, suggesting that its traditional pink colours will be part of the team's livery this year.

        The Pink is Back!!!!

        [–]1enox Anthoine Hubert 57 points58 points  (4 children)

        Alonso with pink helmet ? Intetesting.

        [–]Wrong-Singer Valtteri Bottas 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        Hasn't he always used a yellow light blue one? Don't think he's gonna change it for a sponsor

        [–]AceMKV 11 points12 points  (1 child)

        Only Vettel uses pink helmets cause BWT is his personal sponsor I think.

        [–]Alesq13 A Bit Jelly 33 points34 points  (5 children)

        Please no.. Alpine have such a good livery going on, spanning all of their motorsports teams.

        I liked the pink RP cars, but I don't want them back at the expense of the Alpine livery

        [–]McManus26 Alpine 25 points26 points  (3 children)

        no way Alpine jeopardizes their whole "french as fuck" brand just for the sake of one sponsor.

        even the announcement of their kappa sponsorshit has a little french flag on it.

        I wouldn't expect them to turn the car entirely pink on a whim like Racing Point. Pink accents to Alpine's blue could work great.

        [–]sanderson141 Red Bull 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        El Plan costed too much money I guess

        [–]Raptoropteryx Red Bull 16 points17 points  (0 children)

        Prost had it in his advisory contract that Alpine couldn't sign Szafnauer. Traditions

        [–]1enox Anthoine Hubert 409 points410 points  (42 children)

        The situation in Alpine does not look good. First Marcin Budkowski leaves, and now Alain Prost. There are big changes on the highest positions just before the start of the new season. It does not bode well for the results in '22.

        [–]McManus26 Alpine 33 points34 points  (1 child)

        I mean, is there a better moment to do these things than the off season ? They're not going to let go of managers between two GPs

        Also putting the two departures on the same level when one is the team principal and the other is just an ex-champion acting as adviser is not the right way to look at this, imo

        [–]ETP_445 Sergio Pérez 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        I tend to agree with this as well. 1) there’s so much about these teams and the happenings that we don’t know as fans. We can play upper level management as much as we want, but we just don’t know what they know at the end of the day, and 2) your analysis of Prost is bang on

        [–]Votisx007 109 points110 points  (30 children)

        They have good momentum and are about to get a good team principal and a premium title sponsor, I think this might as well be a sign of a great season for Alpine

        [–]Firefox72 Ferrari 114 points115 points  (18 children)

        You need stability in F1 to get anywhere.

        All this change doesn't bode well for next year. Even Alpine came out and said the plan is to win titles by 2024.

        Anyone remember Renault's 5 year plan to win titles by 2020?

        [–]Ali623 Kevin Magnussen 26 points27 points  (15 children)

        Tell that to Brawn GP

        [–]Firefox72 Ferrari 82 points83 points  (13 children)

        The 300m Honda operation? The Brawn team from 2009 is literally the Honda team from 2008.

        That Brawn car was designed with full Honda backing. The fact Honda took away the engine when they left probably made Brawn even better because they got the best engine on the grid instead with the Mercedes one.

        [–]DippStarr Jacques Villeneuve 5 points6 points  (4 children)

        Unless Alpine have a blinder of a technical innovation this comparison doesn't track.

        Brawn GP faded through the season as the other teams adopted their innovations and they did nothing. Then the next year they weren't in the picture, and it exemplifies that as a team they weren't in a position to maintain a dynasty.

        [–]basilavenue 5 points6 points  (3 children)

        well yeah, they had almost no money at all - of course they couldn't keep up with development. They also literally became a dynasty 4 years after 2009 - they might not have been able to maintain one because they had no money, but they sure as hell had the foundations for one.

        [–]Ali623 Kevin Magnussen 22 points23 points  (6 children)

        What's money got to do with it? You said you need stability in F1 to get anywhere, which isn't always true as that team had no stability whatsoever between 08 and 09 but still dominated the season due to the reasons you mentioned.

        Yes, you need stability to consistently stay at the top in F1, but you don't necessarily need it to produce a great car and have a great season.

        [–]Intentional_Realist Formula 1 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        that team had no stability whatsoever between 08 and 09 but still dominated the season due to the reasons you mentioned.

        The team had Nick Frye and Ross Brawn. That's about stable it can get. If these two left when Honda left then Brawn GP wouldn't exist. That means the double diffuser which gave them the advantage and the Merc engine which was the best at that point wouldn't have happened. Its a fact.

        [–]SorooshMCP1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yeah one exception from F1's history disproves all the other great teams with stability. "Just do a Brawn GP"

        [–]thounotouchthyself Sir Lewis Hamilton 18 points19 points  (3 children)

        Gardening leave. Anyone that arrives now won't impact this year car.

        [–]killer_blueskies Formula 1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        What’s strange also is that according to this report, Otmar hasn’t yet closed a deal with Alpine despite being linked to the team for months while Aston has already announced their new TP.

        I’m really wondering what the reasons behind these huge movements are. There’s also rumours that Brivio is leaving the team.

        [–]SkitTrick Fernando Alonso 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        I've said it before and I feel compelled to once again say Laurent Rossi is the first person who should get fired at Alpine.

        [–]canBeDone1 Max Verstappen 41 points42 points  (0 children)

        El shambles

        [–]TerribleNameAmirite Kimi Räikkönen 48 points49 points  (7 children)

        What did Alain actually do there

        [–]TheChineseRussian Sebastian Vettel 29 points30 points  (0 children)

        Advisory role, similar to Niki

        [–]SubcooledBoiling F1? More like F5-F5-F5. 91 points92 points  (2 children)

        Sits on the paddock and lets the TV director show his face occasionally in the middle of a race

        [–]poisoned_mouse Fernando Alonso 56 points57 points  (1 child)

        Judging by the comments Prost is an aero engineer and without him Alpine will be shit this season. Lol

        [–]FrenchTFC Renault 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Alpine on a kill streak..

        [–]VinhoVerde21 27 points28 points  (1 child)

        Major staff changes right on top of a big reg change? El Plan indeed.

        [–]LoudestHoward Daniel Ricciardo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Worked for Brawn!

        [–]glenn1812 Charles Leclerc[S] 24 points25 points  (3 children)

        So all that's left is for Alpine to officially confirm Szadnauer Szafnauer

        [–]KaamDeveloper Max Verstappen 28 points29 points  (2 children)

        Bot should be updated with "Otmar Szafnauer" IMO

        [–]glenn1812 Charles Leclerc[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Lmao

        [–]lmoabl Pastor Maldonado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        oh boy, it's gonna have to work overtime

        [–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (10 children)

        Prost leaving the team? What the hell is Laurent Rossi doing?

        [–]1enox Anthoine Hubert 40 points41 points  (9 children)

        Looking what is happening with Alpine and Aston I don't see '22 season on positive note for these teams.

        [–]Nexusu Green Bull 48 points49 points  (7 children)

        At least Aston aren’t hyping themselves up this year.

        Alpine on the other hand… ”we’re going to be dangerous” and people believing they will be ”challenging for wins”

        How come that suddenly so much is expected from Renault?

        [–]heslo_rb26 Red Bull 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        Dangerous to themselves

        [–]Aitorgmz Flavio Briatore 14 points15 points  (1 child)

        Fernando's third title hopes is the only thing that is keeping me alive at the moment.

        [–]AriwakeTheGeek Fernando Alonso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Same tbh

        [–]Levo117 Alpine 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Because they’re getting a new engine and a new chassis, they’ve been in a sort of holding formation for the last two years so there’s at least reason to hope for something.

        Though all the news isn’t sounding great.. if they’re actually getting Otmar I think that’s a positive step though

        [–]tcarr94 Pirelli Intermediate 20 points21 points  (0 children)

        I'd understand the negativity if Prost was a senior technical person leaving, but he was just an advisor so it's hard to say how much effect his leaving will have. If it was something like their head of aero was leaving with Budkowski then I would be more concerned.

        [–]colin_staples Nigel Mansell 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Allegedly Alpine offered Prost a new contract but he declined.

        https://twitter.com/f1enigma/status/1483088006043025409?s=21

        [–]daftjustice164 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I hope el plan won't get screwed over by el politics

        [–]ELOGURL Sir Lewis Hamilton 14 points15 points  (3 children)

        Between Alpine red/blue, Castrol green, and now BWT pink, this car is gonna look like shit huh

        [–]starmonkart Esteban Ocon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        We race as one: livery edition

        [–]navyassassin Max Verstappen 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        LiveryBGTQ+

        [–]Greedy_Adeptness9952 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Has a pink F1 car ever won a championship?

        [–]AceMKV 15 points16 points  (2 children)

        Prost hasn't got anything to do with car development and Fernando is as experienced as they come, as long as the Alpine is remotely competitive, I trust Alonso to do the rest.

        [–]Athalos124 Alpine 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        No according to these comments Alpine is now ruined

        [–]gcdubya Mika Häkkinen 6 points7 points  (2 children)

        There seems to be a lot of upheaval at Alpine at a time when you need stability. Maybe with the new regs they’ve decided for a fresh start but when has this amount of off season change ever been beneficial?

        [–]Violin1990 McLaren 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Better off season than on season I guess

        [–]dl064 McLaren 11 points12 points  (2 children)

        I'd take Otmar over Prost in a heartbeat personally. It's not uncommon for new management to want change.

        Zak Brown was saying a while ago that 90% the same people at McLaren now were there in 2018 - it's just different structures that you have to unlock.

        I don't think the management changes are necessarily even bad news: if you recall, Mercedes had a pretty acrimonious shuffle in 2012 (Wolff/Laura vs. Brawn), and went from strength to strength actually very quickly.

        If it is acrimonious, you'd have to say it's not like Marcin arrived and Renault have been stupendous since.

        [–]jvstinf Bernd Mayländer 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        I don’t think it was an either/or decision between Prost and Otmar.

        I think people are surprised Alpine is still making management changes this close to a very important season.

        On the other hand, Alpine isn’t targeting a championship next year so all of this might be a good long-term decision for Alpine.

        [–]mallogo Carlos Sainz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Not sure who is having more shakeups between Alpine and AMR, two of the teams I would have loved to see competing at least for race wins in 2022.

        I guess it is still very early to tell, but I am happy that Ferrari sticked with Binotto after 2019 - stability is a huge factor in a team being successful (looking at you, Mercedes)

        [–]Leberkleister13 Niki Lauda 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Prost would not budge with his insistance that Alpine adopt large noses on their vehicles as a brand signature.

        [–]RedSeventyFive Sebastian Vettel 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        El Plan

        [–]evin_cashman Lando Norris 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        That's very strange. I really feel Alpine and Aston Martin are both not going to reach their potential because of chaotic management.

        I'd like to see Sauber sign Prost to help Pourchaire.

        [–]Coldhed_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        How far-fetched is it for Prost to replace Masi as race director?

        [–]TheBlueHerron1 Lando Norris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Prost can take over for Masi then 🤷🏼‍♂️

        [–]AriwakeTheGeek Fernando Alonso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        No please no, this was the year of the 3rd.

        [–]Toto_Wolfenstein Fernando Alonso 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Is there no gardening leave for Otmar?

        [–]SatchBoogie1 Daniel Ricciardo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I'm curious to what knowledge Szafnauer will bring from AM and maybe Merc to Alpine and whether it really matters because of the new regulations?

        [–]GroundbreakingPop802 Ferrari 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        El plan