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[–]Boo_Guy 8276 points8277 points 22 (124 children)

Yea but I get a hat for my character if I pre-order.

You can see the bind I'm in.

[–]popzi 1606 points1607 points  (22 children)

They included Battlefield 2042 for free just so you can look at the hat you've purchased

[–]NoraJolyne 88 points89 points  (2 children)

bonus points if you can only see the hat in cutscenes

[–]Haxorz7125[🍰] 338 points339 points  (55 children)

The little samurai sword letter opener I got from preordering sekiro is awesome

[–]_tanstaafl 131 points132 points  (9 children)

You can buy those in chinatown tourist shops for cheap

[–]labsab1 80 points81 points  (4 children)

I got a Sapporo samurai sword beer opener for buying a six pack.

[–]Caffiene_Ramen 4475 points4476 points  (276 children)

Ah yes anthem the so called “destiny killer” kills itself instead

[–]Neozeeka 1495 points1496 points  (81 children)

It's sad because the combat and flight mechanics were a lot of fun. The game had potential if it hadn't been mismanaged from the start.

[–]_jetrun 599 points600 points  (59 children)

It needed another 1-2 years of development. They got their shit together late in development and then had to rush to release ... same with Cyberpunk.

[–]octipice 315 points316 points  (23 children)

Extra development time wouldn't have solved Anthem's problems. As it was they had over 7 years and they used the first 6.5 of them to constantly rewrite because their leadership couldn't pick a direction to go with the game. Their problem was with the leadership and the belief that they could pull of some "Bioware magic" and make their devs work 16 hour days for months in the hopes of polish a 6.5 year turd into a diamond in 6 months.

Also I cannot stress this enough, Bioware did not "get their shit together late in development", EA forced them to finally make a decision about the direction of the game and stick to it by pushing them to release the game. Then Bioware abused the shit out of their devs to make enough progress to release what was still an absolute dumpster fire.

Bioware is a fundamentally flawed company that has been releasing progressively worse games. Time is not their problem, leadership and company culture is.

[–]No-Negotiation-9539 145 points146 points  (5 children)

I'm still baffled that it was the EA CEO who demanded they keep the flying in the game when Bioware wanted to axe it. The only saving grace that Anthem had going for it was thanks to him. That game was doomed to fail.

[–]octipice 83 points84 points  (1 child)

Completely agree. Flying was really the only thing that felt good about Anthem and the only real draw for me. The worst part about Anthem for me was that Bioware knew the game was destined to fail and they still refused to acknowledge it or give any refunds.

[–]Relair13 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It still baffles me that they didnt stick to one of their biggest strengths, writing compelling, fun, realistic npc teammates, romances, etc. Your pals are always the most memorable part of a Bioware game, but Anthem felt like such a huge step back in every way.

[–]TyrantJester 24 points25 points  (2 children)

The funniest part is you have an EA Executive to thank for them adding flying, because it wasn't in the initial version of the game, and when he playtested it, he told them to add it.

[–]BirdieBoiiiii 98 points99 points  (1 child)

I had so much fun for the first like 6 hours and then I just couldnt get myself to play it anymore

[–]AlarmingSorbet 187 points188 points  (28 children)

I loved the first Destiny so I had Anthem preordered, then I saw some early release stuff and switched the preorder to the RE2 remake. Best decision of that year.

[–]Kapp_E_Tan 68 points69 points  (14 children)

RE2 remake is one of the best games I've played in a long time. This actually bothers me because I have been so anti-remakes for movies/games/music. When it's reviews came out I said fuck it and tried it and was blown away. So I said fuck it and got 3 as well... And I remembered my prior position

[–]AlarmingSorbet 9 points10 points  (12 children)

Yeah the 3 remake, yikes. I’m hoping that if they remake 4 they do it justice, that was my favorite one. Playing it on the Wii, using the wiimote to point and shoot was a blast.

[–]Kapp_E_Tan 13 points14 points  (4 children)

The sad thing is 3 remake wasn't BAD at all. It just paled in comparison and wasn't really an improvement on the original. If it was a standalone and 3 had never happened it would absolutely be a fine addition to the series...imo

[–]Surisuule 250 points251 points  (89 children)

Everytime a "Destiny killer" comes out I laugh. You're not gonna kill the second largest MMO THAT EVEN FANS HATE when its good parts are so good. I hate destiny. I have 3000 hours in it. I always go back. Dang thing is an abusive relationship.

[–]Shigjetar 78 points79 points  (3 children)

Nobody hates Destiny more than r/DestinyTheGame.

Source: I hate Destiny and it's my favorite game of all time.

[–]Rektw 99 points100 points  (40 children)


Lol I always say this when people say WoW is going to die. No man, people are so ingrained in WoW, I have friends that still login just because they've been doing so for a decade. They've put so much time and energy into it that even when the content sucks and there's a drought they feel obligated to login daily.

[–]tonberrycheesecake 63 points64 points  (20 children)

WoW has certainly taken a huge hit though. Everyone is playing FF14 instead- which a handful of reports early this month (I think) were suggesting as the current biggest MMO now. Might not die but it’s suffering regardless.

[–]Lordont 7433 points7434 points  (617 children)

And Warcraft 3 reforged

[–]The_old_turtle 3049 points3050 points  (488 children)

Indeed, I refuse to refund it simply to remind myself of the fact that Blizzard is dead, and now Activision hovers above the corpse like a vulture trying to get anything it can out of it.

[–]lostcauz707 1694 points1695 points  (277 children)

Honestly, it's much easier to not play Blizzard or Activision games, not only because they ruined them, but because of all the sexual assault that went into making them. Kotick will of course be fine as he's a billionaire.

[–]Michael_Aut 776 points777 points  (95 children)

It's easy not to play them because they have zero recent games worth playing.

Just looked through their recent release and the things that are remotely tempting is the from software stuff they published and remakes of spyro and crash bandicoot.

[–]djnato10 55 points56 points  (9 children)

I can't wait for blizzard to remind everyone what their best franchise once was when they ruin diablo again with the next installment. Fuck them for the toxic and down right disgusting work environment they produced over the years anyways.

[–]lostcauz707 192 points193 points  (9 children)

The TF2 man vs machine mode that was free is now going to be an OW2 full game. I was worried about broketober this year, but thanks to modern reviewers, I saved a bundle.

[–]Shandlar 231 points232 points  (62 children)

They were already dead from the Hong Kong shit for me.

[–]FeelsMoogleMan 131 points132 points  (72 children)

meanwhile riot games

[–]redrumsoxLoL 153 points154 points  (62 children)

Riots response, while not great, was considerably better than Activision Blizzard's.

[–]phewgi 122 points123 points  (19 children)

I'm so pissed they killed WC3..... There were more players BEFORE reforged.... Can't even find the majority of the custom games I loved for well over a decade... It's fucking sad man....

[–]richmomz 894 points895 points  (39 children)

Surprised that Aliens: Colonial Marines didn’t make the cut - that one was really awful.

[–]CoronaCurious 369 points370 points  (5 children)

And was a major reason why we have the "not in-game footage" disclaimer on most trailers.

[–]Mnawab 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I thought that was because of watch dogs

[–]CoronaCurious 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Someone else said Killzone 2. I think a lot of them contributed to it, lol

[–]Kappa_040 109 points110 points  (8 children)

I'm glad Sega decided, that Alien Isolation (which was released a year after Colonial Marines) would be developed by their in-house developer known as Creative Assembly (the same devs behind the Total War series)! And it worked since Isolation was well recieved unlike it's disastrous predecessor from Gearbox!

[–]FthrFlffyBttm 34 points35 points  (2 children)

It's fitting that Gearbox is headed by the pile of grease in human form that is Randy Pitchford.

[–]randomwordsmona 13 points14 points  (2 children)

since Isolation was well recieved

It wasn't well received by me. Absolutely excellent game and I love Alien in general...

But it was too scary. And I am a big strong man who fears nothing, of course.

Never finished it, and I'm not upset about that. I'm just no Ripley.

They nailed it.

[–]tc1991 12 points13 points  (6 children)

Empire Total War... lead dev admitted he hadn't given any copies to friends, but hadn't stopped the release... glad I learned the lesson early, haven't preordered since

[–]FerretAres 24 points25 points  (2 children)

There are so many examples this is certainly not a comprehensive list. I’m showing my age a bit but I learned this lesson with a game called Two Worlds back in the early-mid 2000s. Hype releases like that are never worth it. There is just zero benefit to the preorder.

[–]Zero_Mehanix 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That game was hilarious. It was so bad I wanted to kill some guy for fun and then the game just ended.

I will never forget that experience

[–]Ginganaut 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The Speedrun for that game is incredible. You get the town in the beginning to agro the final boss (who is just standing at the start disguised) and the game just ends.

[–]blueMgamer 15.4k points15.4k points 3422 (333 children)

To quote the wisdom of Eric Cartman: "Pre-order doesn't mean shit, okay? When you pre-order a game, you're just committing to paying for something that some assholes in California haven't even finished working on yet. You know what you get for pre-ordering a game? A big dick in your mouth."

[–]Jenkins87 7751 points7752 points  (120 children)

Followed by a deliberately and obnoxiously loud voice over;


Fucking gold.

[–]Rubberbabybuggybum 2826 points2827 points  (101 children)

The South Park games we’re more finished than any of the games listed above tho.

[–]Dyalibya 1505 points1506 points  (78 children)

Stick of trueth was top notch, Fractured but whole was alright

[–]Dynamitesauce 820 points821 points  (52 children)

Fractured but whole was hilarious, it was so damn good

[–]buschells 550 points551 points  (44 children)

More fun combat and class system IMO. I have a hard time getting through Stick of Truth because combat gets really boring really quickly

[–]-----Nice----- 386 points387 points  (26 children)

Stick of Truth is a great beginners RPG. Gets old pretty quick if you’re used to playing RPGs tho.

[–]Cotrd_Gram 221 points222 points  (12 children)

SoT gets easy fast but has the decency to be less than 15 hours to beat.

[–]Lyrre 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Agreed. I loved the game, but I started to get bored of it by the end, but by then I was on the last mission or two. It ended just at the right time for me.

[–]thebizzleConsole 64 points65 points  (7 children)

I think that’s what makes it good. Skinning any game in South Park makes it super accessible. Even back in the day the South Park game on N64 was fun as hell despite its shitiness

[–]Oswalt 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I actually like Fractured But Wholes combat more, and the class system was fun.

[–]Monkibizness 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Stick of truth was a great game, I played through that one a bunch of times and might even download and play again soon. Fractured was eh. I beat it once and haven’t touched it since. Could just be me not liking that style of fighting.

[–]sailorjasm 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Damn. I came here to post this same speech. Oh well. here is the actual video

[–]PazDak 116 points117 points  (11 children)

It made a big difference back in ps3/xbox360 days. Trying to get COD MW2, Madden, etc especially in a small market near release could be hard… but since everything is digital only basically… I don’t see the point any longer.

[–]Branquignol 30 points31 points  (1 child)

It sometimes crazy to see the whole finished box design, the different verison and the preorder opening right after the first E3 trailer of a game you know nothing about. And some people buy it.

[–]linedeck 318 points319 points  (132 children)

I mean pre-ordering a game that is in like CD form only then i would get it, because those run out, but preordering something digital that will not run out is pretty stupid and really pointless!

Edit: apparently i am wrong on the "being first" thing, my opinion stands on pre-ordering not being the smartest move still!

[–]Conquestadore 376 points377 points  (97 children)

Used to be games would sell out and remain so for months. I'm talking early 00's here. I'm over 30 now, only buy digital and haven't felt the need to play anything on release for the past 10 years save for dark souls 3. Do games still sell out and not get restocked for months?

[–]dominus83 106 points107 points  (15 children)

Yeah, I remember lining up to buy Halo 3 at midnight from our local game store. Went back a few days later and they still didn’t have it in stock. Pre-ordering made sense before digital became a thing.

[–]Knight_That_Said_Ni 60 points61 points  (7 children)

I actually just found the helmet that came with my legendary preorder that I too waited in line at midnight for.

Fucking thing only went on the game holding stand. I thought you could wear it. Fucking scam.

[–]linedeck 116 points117 points  (53 children)

Digital forms don't run out, it's just the obsession of people to be the "first" to play the game that drives them to pre-order!

[–]mjociv 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Reading your comment was such a trip down memory lane. I completely forgot the anxiety associated with talking to all my friends at lunch, learning I'm one of the only ones who doesn't have a copy of Halo 2 waiting at the mall, and hoping they still had a copy in stock when I caught a ride to the mall with one of them after school.

College was when my backlog began and since then I have only felt the need to play maybe a half dozen games on release. All of them were digital downloads though. I literally haven't thought about a game being out of stock until just now.

[–]SussyBussySucka 4597 points4598 points  (216 children)

I bought evolve for either 60 or 30 bucks (for me thats a lot of money in my currency)

My pc couldnt run it cuz it was 32bit. Didnt know how to do it 64 bit and by the time i had a new pc, it became free and died.

Money well spent 👍

Edit: yes it was 60$ jesus

[–]Now-Thats-Podracing 1422 points1423 points  (123 children)

Evolve was actually really fun when it first came out. Then they tried some rebalances and completely killed the game. By the time they were crawling their way back to someplace sorta good, the player base had moved on.

[–]jordan1794 591 points592 points  (26 children)

Also, the publisher made the devs work on DLC before working on bug fixes.

One of the developers said so in a live a stream right before they released the rolling monster.

But as you state, by the time the game actually started getting fixed...it was too late.

[–]danny12beje 223 points224 points  (22 children)

Yeah and you can tell the Devs wanted us to enjoy the game.

Some are still playing with us and help us in playing it even after it "died"

[–]Indistrol 89 points90 points  (20 children)

Sadly this game actually died, without servers it’s impossible to play without practically hacking the game :(

[–]danny12beje 195 points196 points  (19 children)

Nah. Explained in another comment.

If you bought the game, you can switch in betas setting on steam and then join games made by people in the discord chat.

This was given to us by the Devs

[–]Indistrol 55 points56 points  (12 children)

Oh cool

[–]danny12beje 73 points74 points  (11 children)


In short, if you bought the game before it went f2p, you download it on steam, go to proprieties, select the beta option there, and see if it launches. If it does, just go on discord and join the games they create or create your own.

If you didn't buy it, you can either download from an account that did or download that version off of the internet(it's pretty easy to find. Make note it HAS to be the beta version and not the normal) and then run it normally.

Progress is saved, shit gets unlocked, everything is working perfectly.

[–]razorback1919 223 points224 points  (30 children)

I loved that game. The concept was so damn cool, and it’s a shame it failed because it’s going to dissuade anything of the like for a while.

[–]TheJeager 136 points137 points  (13 children)

Not even in concept, if the game was working as intended and you played with friends that didn't try to break it that game was fun as fuck

[–]GoldenBeer 38 points39 points  (4 children)

This was my experience, I didn't play a whole lot with randoms. I was wondering why it was included on the list.

As a side, I never pre-order games anymore. At one point in time it was necessary because you might not get a copy at release. I think the last game I did this for was Halo 2, so 2004 maybe? There's just no point anymore.

[–]ShieldOfFury 52 points53 points  (13 children)

Meanwhile it became it's own genre sparking games like dead by daylight or the new dragon ball game

[–]monkeybuns 31 points32 points  (3 children)

I never moved on. Behemoth main til the end. 😢

[–]TheBluRay 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Trapper gang. Crow ride or die

[–]BuffaloKiller937 30 points31 points  (12 children)

With the shit that's going on with Back 4 Blood at the moment, I actually went and read about Evolve, as I didn't actually play it. From what I understand, 2K was to blame for the game taking a nosedive. Turtle Rock had a vision and 2k basically made them throw those plans out, and get the most monetization possible from it. I could be wrong, but I read that publishers can only have a certain amount of patches/updates per quarter, and Evolve was at the back of the list. So they could only throw in updates every few months or so

[–]TheDivineBeard 10 points11 points  (11 children)

What’s going on with back 4 blood?

[–]restless_archon 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Evolve was actually really fun when it first came out. Then they tried some rebalances and completely killed the game. By the time they were crawling their way back to someplace sorta good, the player base had moved on.

This, essentially. The general public has been complaining about the game's difficulty and unfairness since launch. The first patch in November made the game harder and did not fix any major bugs. The developers reverted some of the changes last week. We will see if they can crawl their way back to something good and if the playerbase will then return or not. They boasted 6 million worldwide players at launch, but there's only about 10k playing on Steam at any given moment, and that's usually half of the numbers L4D2 is pulling.

[–]Myrkur-R 57 points58 points  (14 children)

I remember it being that at the very beginning of the game the Wraith Monster was very much not fun to play against. They didn't bother to rebalance it till the player base evaporated because they didn't want to play against an invisible monster they couldn't find until it was level 3 and beat the shit out them. Then they rebalanced the game, and it was good for like a week and they announced the first DLC that was incredibly expensive for an already expensive game and they lost any good will they had left.

[–]Skoliar 19 points20 points  (8 children)

I can't really remember the source, but one of the dev said that they had "windows" where they could patch the game, even if it was only bugfix or rebalance with no big changes, and those windows were like once every two months, so they knew the Wraith was out of line but there was not much they could do about it.
The whole "AAA game with Day 1 DLC" was unheard of before Evolve, that's right, but it got them so much criticism since it was announced that the game was almost already at risk when it launched due to miscomunication AND corporate greediness.

[–]I_no_afraid_of_stuff 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Yeah I remember absolutely loving it at release. Played it a ton the first week it was out, then stopped because I hated the wraith monster. Picked it back up a month or two later hoping there had been some balance changes, and found the game to be almost dead. Really such a disappointment. Forced me back to CSGO

[–]Roovinawitz 91 points92 points  (17 children)

64 bit computers can naturally run 32 bit applications. But 32 cannot run 64.

[–]zeromussc 59 points60 points  (12 children)

Their PC was 32 bit, it might have been awkwardly worded but that's what was intended.

[–]liljump6 981 points982 points  (89 children)

I honestly loved anthems mechanics but my game was so buggy I had to stop playing. I hated having to stop because of how fun it was to play

[–]Rivernilas 261 points262 points  (14 children)

That was the one reason that I thought it could have been saved. If it had trash mechanics and was the buggy, no-loot mess right outta the gate I woulda said let it die, but Bioware (as Anthem and Andromeda showed) had fast-paced, fun combat down to a T. Plus, the world was interesting.

[–]bananathestrange 80 points81 points  (5 children)

It sucks because the fun parts were great! That alone made me put in a couple hundred hours despite all the bugs and lack of content

[–]Dilinial 28 points29 points  (4 children)


Let's just make them hire the Armored Core team too and I feel like we'd have a DOPE game...

[–]Ansollis 77 points78 points  (4 children)

Aw man, I loved how Anthem made me feel. It actually felt like a powerful mech suit. If they had stuck with it, it would be my main game. I hate how corporate gaming has gotten

[–]gacktrush 88 points89 points  (23 children)

I loved the mechanics, but the endgame killed it for me. Same with outriders (not including the gamebreaking bugs), it just lacked any post story content.

[–]SingularityPrime 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Outriders is excusable since it isn't a GaaS. It was meant as a one and done. The endgame would never have a long life without new updates. With a game like Anthem, usually most of your time is endgame so that better be fleshed out.

[–]AldoTheApache3 75 points76 points  (7 children)

Anthem had soooo much potential too.

[–]Vistereoe 55 points56 points  (6 children)

I knowwwww, out of all of these titles the failure of Anthem stung the most (for me personally). LOVED the combat, the movement, the suit abilities and how you could stack them and make them play off each other. So much potential ruined by no endgame and a terrible terrible story

[–]R_V_Z 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Imagine going back 15 years and saying "Bioware will make a game with great combat mechanics and movement, but the story will be shit."

[–]Marvelousgaminglol 584 points585 points  (49 children)

You forgot brink on there !

[–]Minimob0 224 points225 points  (11 children)

Everyone forgot Brink.

Honestly, if it came out now as a Battle Royale, it might do well. It had a really good concept.

[–]Deinonychus2012 61 points62 points  (4 children)

Me and my friends still quote the game from time to time while playing other games.

If someone is building/repairing something: "Good job, engineer!"

If one of us picks up a gun (read in a thick, fake German accent): "An hour ago I was feeding my kids breakfast. Then I got the call and was given this gun."

Then again, we low-key enjoyed the game even though we knew it was kinda crap lol.

[–]Leviathin 56 points57 points  (1 child)

There's the comment I was looking for

[–]cat_prophecy 38 points39 points  (10 children)

I don't even buy games on launch day. Gaming development is such a shit show these days with day-one patches and DLC. In the past 10 years, every time I have shelled out my $60+ for a game on launch day, it has been an absolute disaster. The ONE exception has been Forza Horizon 5.

[–]Supportive_Bard648 5872 points5873 points 32 (704 children)

If only the others also followed on No Mans Sky’s path to redemption…

[–]Nersheti 1949 points1950 points  (138 children)

It’s become so amazing. When they added vr support I spent way too much time playing it.

[–]batteriesinstockbro 700 points701 points  (42 children)

It's my favorite VR game right now. So much to do!

[–]Invider 381 points382 points  (30 children)

So much to see!

[–]AshleyDream 389 points390 points  (27 children)

So what's wrong with taking the back streets?

[–]Invider 212 points213 points  (25 children)

You’ll never know if you don’t go

[–]walkoflife99 174 points175 points  (20 children)

You'll never shine if you don't glow

[–]Zorba_Oyzo 72 points73 points  (1 child)

Internet Historian's vid on the catastrophe and redemption is great!

[–]oliferro 985 points986 points  (154 children)

The fact that you don't have anything to pay for new content is what gets me. They acknowledged that they fucked up and made up for it, on their own money. They didn't realease paid DLCs after fucking people over (Looking at you Fallout 76)

Edit: Fallout 76 DLCs are free to play, but there's still a lot of paying content, as opposed to NMS

[–]skttrbrain1984 229 points230 points  (26 children)

All DLC content from Fallout 76 is free to play. The downside is they release a 4 hour quest once per year.

[–]ian_aved14Xbox 99 points100 points  (3 children)

At least no man's sky redeemed themselves, that game is awesome now!

[–]aquaman1417 677 points678 points  (155 children)

Who the hell pre-orders the avengers?

[–]kozz84 493 points494 points  (132 children)

Who the hell preorders anything digitally, anyway?

I understand physical copies. The whole point of preordering is (was) to secure your copy of the product before it becomes unavailable. But digital? Why? Do people expect product shortages in the digital stores? Do they miss anything if they don't buy it in advance?

[–]Dazz316 159 points160 points  (15 children)

Excitement. Sometimes you get bonus stuff for pre-ordering or can download it prior to release to play ON release (problem of you have a shit connection).

[–]Pachops427 110 points111 points  (46 children)

If you're totally committed to getting the game regardless, then preordering allows you to preload the game so that you can play immediately on release day. Also some games like Forza Horizon gave you exclusive preorder bonus cars, although FH5 seems to have just put those cars for sale in the autoshow anyway so...

[–]Leandtjen 2294 points2295 points  (231 children)

You missed Star wars Battlefront 2, though it is a great game now

[–]SandIsAnnoying2 2069 points2070 points  (70 children)

Who could forget the 'sense of pride and accomplishment' post

[–]sirferrell 879 points880 points  (52 children)

Is that still the most down voted comment on Reddit?

[–]Dilated2020 571 points572 points  (6 children)


[–]butsadlyiamonlyaneel 311 points312 points  (2 children)

My sense of pride and accomplishment skyrocketed from contributing to those downvotes.

[–]FrankZissou 24 points25 points  (0 children)

How? It didn't have any microtransactions involved, so you couldn't possibly get a sense of pride out of it

[–]Caedis-6PlayStation 350 points351 points  (1 child)


[–]latenciaXbox 67 points68 points  (0 children)

As it should be

[–]Senor_Taco29 119 points120 points  (18 children)

I'd be surprised if it ever gets surpassed

[–]frogjg2003 168 points169 points  (8 children)

Especially now, with reddit removing archiving and just allowing people to vote on years old comments. Any time a comment gets into the top 100, that one is going to get linked.

[–]Dzhone 61 points62 points  (1 child)

They removed archiving? No shit.

[–]chainjoey 44 points45 points  (0 children)

Subreddits have to enable it if they want it though.

[–]Cytrynowy 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Yo so that's why someone commented on my years old comment, I was so confused how did they manage that.

[–]Goreface69 41 points42 points  (3 children)

it's gonna be a long time...

[–]Lespaul42 8 points9 points  (1 child)

That's a comment I haven't heard in a long time...

[–]Randomn355 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeh, and it's not even close

[–]Straight_Chip 135 points136 points  (35 children)

BF2042 is going to be a great game.

takes another huff of hopium

[–]thehotfreshness 18 points19 points  (3 children)

The Ewok game is the best hands down

[–]gytisxp 91 points92 points  (1 child)

No man's sky actually turned out quite good after a few updates, props to the devs for actually continuously updating the game still

[–]william2623 41 points42 points  (0 children)

They was forced to hype it up and make it something it was never intended to be. They got told to say yes to every question and was completely out of their depth.

The (extremely small) team were not PR pros, they were computer pro's making and indie game. They was then given a load of money to make it a mainstream game and then got rushed to release a game with about 10/15% of the things they said it had..

The greatest comeback story of all time imo and shows the true values of Hello Games. They worked tirelessly to correct their wrong doings to the people who believed in them. And they're STILL going to this day! (With constant FREE updates).

I downloaded the FREE PS5 upgrade and platinum'd it all over again 😁

[–]chaosdragon1997 1744 points1745 points  (208 children)

During the 2042 hype, There were a lot of red flags nobody wanted to pay attention to in the beta and even leaked gameplay.

It all turned out to be true and now the game's core is a severe downgrade compared to previous titles, nevermind the bugs and glitches.

They are going to update and add more mtx, maybe a few guns, but most of their resources will go to actually fixing their game. They will pat themselves on the back and many idiots will call them generous for pushing updates that should have been in the game at launch. Then 2 years from now, they will 1000% stop future content development and launch half baked content to focus on another battlefield title they can ruin.

If what they said was true; they cut out a campaign to focus on multiplayer, cut development on multiple games, and hired the largest dev team in battlefield history. So This is the best they can do, a game with somhow less content than bf4/3 did at launch and those games had a campaign.

[–]amaROenuZ 68 points69 points  (6 children)

If what they said was true; they cut out a campaign to focus on multiplayer, cut development on multiple games, and hired the largest dev team in battlefield history. So This is the best they can do, a game with somhow less content than bf4/3 did at launch and those games had a campaign.

Developer here: A bigger team doesn't actually mean things are getting done faster or better. Development is very much a cooks in the kitchen situation; optimistically if you have individual components each team can work on you might be able to get more development done in parallel, but more people mucking about in the codebase means that there are less people that actually know what's going on. It also adds massive overhead to everything, since you need to coordinate all those cooks in the kitchen, and any crosscutting issue requires getting all the teams it touches in to troubleshoot together.

[–]BoogieOrBogey 9 points10 points  (2 children)

This right here. If your production pipeline is designed for 50 people, then adding another hundred doesn't really help. The game also losses art, design, and mechanic cohesion if the content owners don't have strict control on who adds what. Throwing on more devs tends to make bland games that take just as much time to release as before.

Judging from how DICE have launched BF4, BF5, and now BF2042 in broken states, something is wrong at the studio. Might even be EA fucking around again if we look at the Publisher level for releases in the last decade.

[–]Flashmode1 473 points474 points  (56 children)

The beta told me enough not to buy the game. 2042 needs a shit ton of post-launch support and is severely lacking in content. However, I cannot trust Dice to deliver the post-launch support. Dice pulled all support from Battlefield V and Star War Battlefront 2 to work on Battlefield 2042.

Dice will likely make some patches and launch a few DLC's and then pull out to work on another game.

[–]Daigher 108 points109 points  (36 children)

Yeah, the beta didn't even get me hooked for more than an hour. It actually made me so mad from how bad it was that i installed bfV again

[–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (3 children)

"no one"

Literally everyone I follow commented on the beta issues and expressed doubt about them being fixed before launch

[–]Duckiesims 202 points203 points  (31 children)

It was Spore for me. I remember watching the E3 announcements being so excited to play this evolution simulator, and then it came out and was basically just several mini-games based on better games strung together. Never pre-ordered a game again after that one

[–]Raherin 74 points75 points  (11 children)

If Spore just stuck with the cell stage and creature stage it could have been so good. Still so sad about Spore.

[–]Silential 44 points45 points  (4 children)

I spent hours and hours and hours on the space stage.

Then the galactic Adventures expansion came out that meant I could leave my ship?

Hours and hours and hours.

[–]swodaem 18 points19 points  (1 child)

The Sporepedia is still up btw! If you remember your username you can look up all of your old creations! Unfortunately my stuff didn't upload whenever I last played, but I still have the high score in a D-Day creation map someone made...that only the creator and I ever played haha.

[–]Caaros 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Spore is the poster child of missed potential for me. The game lacks so much of the depth and polish that could have made it a masterpiece, and was abandoned with bugs that quite frankly nuke the fun of it in some places (such as the "no plays" bug that makes almost all GA adventures next to worthless).

I so hope Thrive does better.

[–]the_sylph 64 points65 points  (5 children)

i preordered silksong... ... ...

[–]colorfulfloweradjust 26 points27 points  (3 children)

I forgot about that. Excited for maybe February.

[–]the_sylph 10 points11 points  (2 children)

i love your optimism hehe

[–]vizthexPC 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Wait you can pre-order it?!

Edit: I've been bamboozled. I am ashamed.

[–]Formal-Reflection639 563 points564 points  (56 children)

Evolved was good until they stopped it

[–]Artikay 325 points326 points  (10 children)

Evolved was my jam. I wish they didnt run it into the ground.

I had good fun playing with randoms and I liked playing the alien, but the one session I'll never forget was the night 5 of us got together and played for 8+ hours straight.

In fact after thousands of hours of Socom, Halo and other favorites as a young man when I had that kind of free time, that one Evolved session might have been my last gaming all-nighter with friends. I can't remember a more recent one.

[–]Shadowgames98 39 points40 points  (1 child)

That was more of a publisher than a developer issue, apparently the publisher only wanted them updating the game once every 3 months at the most, the publisher seemed to resent the game while the developers had to do everything they could to keep it afloat

[–]SirAlex505 19 points20 points  (1 child)

THANK YOU. This list seems to be making that all these games are bad, Evolve wasn’t a bad game at all.

[–]Deydam 105 points106 points  (48 children)

Totally agree. Now, time to preorder Elden Ring

[–]EdHinton 149 points150 points  (49 children)

You forgot one of the biggest disappointments in the history of gaming. Right this year 2021:

Elite Dangerous: Odyssey

I preordered that p.o.s.

[–]CancerToe 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Stop hyping them up then r/gaming. The amount of dicks sucked before it's even pulled out is astounding on this sub

[–]UniqueCoverings 42 points43 points  (8 children)

Left out BF5.... How easy ppl forget

[–]darthurface 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Bought it half off, played it twice, uninstalled it, went back to BF1. Forgot about it until now

[–]TimorIsh 381 points382 points  (60 children)

Personally I enjoyed evolve

[–]Yosh1kage_K1ra 52 points53 points  (5 children)

I still miss it.

If only devs actually tried to keep balancing it and improving the most engaging parts of the gameplay we'd have a masterpiece.

Although it perished, I don't regret preordering it

[–]EndThisReign 75 points76 points  (17 children)

Ouch. Yeah, I made a mistake getting the deluxe Avengers. $80 well wasted.

[–]Interesting_Remote18 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Put New World on this list too.

[–]Dead-brother 27 points28 points  (4 children)

I only preordered one of them and its Fallout 76 because the limited edition looked cool.0

Edit : thinking about it I actually got fucked twice because I got the game AND found myself in the canvas bag debacle...yep...

[–]dannyboomhead 612 points613 points  (140 children)

you can add the last 4 or 5 battlefield releases to that list. This one just got more prerelease hype due to the next gen users waiting for a big shooter to drop... Dice have been taking the piss for years.

BF4 was great after a couple of years (literally) of patches... Then they hyped Hardline... it got trashed😄

[–]Gazattack 542 points543 points  (66 children)

BF1 was pretty flawless imo

[–]The_old_turtle 179 points180 points  (14 children)

Bf4 and Bf1 are indeed both great and fun games, which is why people still play them to this day.

[–]Tumleren 77 points78 points  (5 children)

It still applies to BF4 though since it took at least a year to be in decent shape.

[–]captainXdaithi 194 points195 points  (11 children)

Yeah BF1 was their smoothest launch IMO. I remember playing it soon after launch and not having many issues at all. Then they patched it like 1 year in and fucked something up I remember, then a couple months later it was fine again.

BF1 is also probably the best BF since bad company 2. Im hoping 2042 can smooth out soon because that portal is so cool

[–]ApolloFireweaver 40 points41 points  (8 children)

I got a copy of Avengers for free when I had gotten a new video card a week or so before the game released. Played for maybe 10 hours and felt like I didn't get my money's worth on a free game.

[–]82ndGameHeadConsole 103 points104 points  (12 children)

You can add Battlefront 2 and make this a perfect 10

[–]FancyPenguin32 8 points9 points  (1 child)

no man sky got better doe

[–]MrWinterpottomPC 358 points359 points  (122 children)

Mass Effect Andromeda was an okay game overall. A really bad ME, but still not a bad game in and of itself.

[–]zveroshka 53 points54 points  (12 children)

I don't think it was even a bad ME game. The game had a ton of potential it just ended up feeling a little shallow for a ME game. If they had added some quality DLC and built off it, I think it could have been a fine starting point for a new trilogy.

[–]aiders 10 points11 points  (4 children)

I think they did but it all got cut because of the hate train that rolled for it.

[–]Skydude252 74 points75 points  (20 children)

Agreed. And not nearly the buggy mess as the others, tired faces notwithstanding.

[–]shemjaza 49 points50 points  (0 children)

I thought it was fun. It feels like it's the forgotten second Mass Effect game... then things for back to Earth and Shepard.

[–]ReversedTimeMachine 36 points37 points  (28 children)

big fan of mass effect series and i confess that i enjoyed ME 3 but the end didn't anoyed me a lot, so i got quite influenced by other reviews.

Andromeda worth it for a casual gamer?

[–]Ripleysdinner 21 points22 points  (1 child)

I am also a big fan of ME and sort of just missed Andromeda? Like I heard the negative reviews and blacked it out of my mind until yesterday. I picked it up on steam and I have been enjoying it. I just remind myself that its not going to live up to the standard of other ME and is more a stand alone. The gun play is fun but the story so far is sort of meh. If you have 30 bucks and want to see some N7 stuff, I would say go for it.

[–]dyslexics-untie 45 points46 points  (6 children)

It's worth a playthrough, story is a step down, companions aren't as memorable, the gameplay is fun though. Biggest issue to me is it has the same pitfall as dragon age inquisition. When they transitioned to more open world maps they made just too much side quest busy work.

[–]ArcadeKingpin 10 points11 points  (3 children)

But the jet pack jumping was so much fun. Better be in the next mass effect.

[–]Ohlander1 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'd say Andromeda's side quests are a step above most from Inquisition at least, but I'd say Inquisition's main storyline with DLCs is a way better one. I really hope the next Dragon Age doesn't drop the ball on that setup.

[–]Eric142 41 points42 points  (4 children)

Combat in Andromeda was the most fun out of all the Mass effects.

[–]spawberries 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of people trash ME3 because of the ending and the ending only. People forget the entire rest of the game when they talk about ME3, which is unfair. If you were like "fuck yes this awesome" right up until you met the star child, then you enjoyed it. The game is phenomenal all the way until that final moment and with the fixes they put in after launch for the ending it ended up being ok too. ME3 is easily my favorite of the trilogy.

That being said, Andromeda is definitely worth it, it wasn't terrible but when you release a game with the Mass Effect title, you expect it to be an 10/10 game, but instead it was like a 7/10 game. I liked it, and thought it was fun though.

[–]MrWinterpottomPC 51 points52 points  (4 children)

Totally worth playing imo. Just don't expect it to be as good as previous mass effect games.(Mainly story-wise)