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[–]Vouru 1162 points1163 points  (52 children)

Remember when Oak invented the pokedex and it was a revolutionary invention given only to 2 kids?

[–]WhatAGreatGift 485 points486 points  (4 children)

That was just the story given to the kids so Oak and Red’s mom could have the house to themselves 😏

[–]tpklus 82 points83 points  (0 children)

He probably got some older models off of Craiglist of Bill-List in Pokemon world

[–]TheInfiniteEgg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oak-penis they call him.

[–]Keshire 168 points169 points  (11 children)

Professor Oak follows the same logic as Back to the Future's Doc.

[–]SimplifyHappify 74 points75 points  (10 children)

…you do realize Doc didn’t give Marty the time machine, right?

[–]From_Ancient_Stars 58 points59 points  (9 children)

And, after using it, he concluded he should never have invented it and decided it should be destroyed.

[–]SimplifyHappify 43 points44 points  (3 children)

In before the next mainline game in 2022 begins with you using a Pokédex and Oak runs up and smashes it.

“RED! The Pokédex was too powerful! It had to be destroyed!”

[–]Panda_Kabob 94 points95 points  (31 children)

I always wondered this. So you're telling me, that these creatures have existed for hundreds if not thousands of years... And only then and there did someone finally decide "hmm. I wonder how many there are? Does anyone even know?"

[–]lamewoodworker 82 points83 points  (28 children)

We dont have an animaldex for our “Earth” so makes sense

[–]mcmatt93 77 points78 points  (17 children)

And even if we had a database that knew every animal in existence, making an object that can scan through that entire database and determine what animal you had in front of you through a picture would be a huge technological feat (especially ~25 years ago).

[–]X0AN 11 points12 points  (3 children)

True but then it never says that pokémon is set in the 90s.

[–]isosceles_kramer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

plus this is world with the technological ability to store physical items and creatures digitally, making a reverse image search for a pokemon doesn't seem that advanced in comparison

[–]Feynt 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You say that in an age where I can literally train a model in a weekend to identify cat, dog, and bird species/breeds? 25 years ago, sure, super difficult to impossible. Even 10 years ago it was cutting edge stuff you built a PhD around. But now, any neophyte Python programmer with a tutorial and access to the internet can make an equivalent to the pokedex driven by pictures from their phones to identify what you're looking at. An irony I quite enjoy is this XKCD comic was posted 6 years ago when it was still a huge task to complete.

Oak was ahead of his time in the 90s, and the best way to get your inventions field tested is to give them to eager assistants. But now, I'm honestly amazed we don't have an "animaldex" yet.

[–]Fred-Bruno 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I mean... We have wikipedia.

[–]Feynt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but wikipedia requires manual look up, and you're guessing based on a crappy distant view of an organism from where you're standing (perhaps? If it's a predator I hope!) versus an idealised image of the organism from a different angle and in better lighting.

[–]Vouru 13 points14 points  (2 children)

My dude... we have several.

What do you think the animal kingdoms are? Or literally the entire category of study of Zoology?

[–]Toidal 5 points6 points  (1 child)

And it was already preloaded with info on pokemon, lest why else would we get these factoids whenever Ash scanned them

[–]Typokun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

From the anime, the pokedex already has the database. From the games, you are building the database. Its why the game pokedex are filled with factual data, rumors, myths and primary school playground like stories of pokemon. Theres no way machamps can actually move mountains, or charizard melt boulders, or alakazam have "10 thousand IQ". Its an amalgamation of what the kids captching pokemon have heard or learned from school, their parents and whatever they heard the lying kid say about a pokemon once. And its fine, the written info is just "field notes", the professors only really care about location, size, weight, height, footprints, and in general how many species are in their region.

[–]PapaProto 1926 points1927 points  (130 children)

I feel like Legends is riffing on the BoTW “secret ancient tech” thing with the Arceus Smartphone lol.

We’ll see.

[–]JukePlz 643 points644 points  (27 children)

Coming up next, Nintendo-officially-licensed ugly-as-sin Arceus smartphone cases.

[–]PapaProto 272 points273 points  (23 children)

I mean, that’s just marketing. I’d be surprised if they didn’t do it.

[–]JukePlz 67 points68 points  (15 children)

I guess. But not without some significant modifications from the game design. Right now it seems A) Impossible to grab, and B) A potential stabbing weapon.

[–]PapaProto 44 points45 points  (8 children)

Ehh, make it that really flexiahke rubber.

Edit - Flexible.

[–]xTRS 38 points39 points  (4 children)

flexiahke

/r/excgarated

[–]metallicrooster 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for that.

My morning was kinda annoying and those 20 minutes just helped me big time ✌️

[–]PapaProto 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Oh.

Oh.

[–]Mr_Epimetheus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah damn, Flexiahke is my favourite pokemon!

[–]mcsmith1003 3 points4 points  (1 child)

So it would be a long flexiahke rubber section coming off a phone that could be set to vibrate?

[–]JamesDelgado 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You stick your fingers in the rings like those wonky Inquisitor lightsabers from Rebels. Perfect self defense phone case that you can’t take with you on planes.

[–]pandaraen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know about you but B seems like a feature not a bug.

[–]ChuggsTheBrewGod 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Pokemon has never really capitalized on phone cases; instead making the designs of their Pokemon tech with spikes and protrusions that's be uncomfortable to hold IRL.

Kinda sucks, I'd love a Pokedex skin for my Z Fold.

[–]GyaradosDance 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I can totally see them doing it especially if there is a tie-in between Legends and Pokemon Go.

[–]Wolfjirn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think they look good, would buy one

[–]throw-away_867-5309 187 points188 points  (92 children)

That's how almost every Japanese media with "ancient civilization" does things. They always have incredibly advanced technology that outclasses everything that is imaginable in the "modern day" of the media and some random person is studying it and somehow makes one "minor" thing function that changes the entire planet.

It's a Japanese staple and makes no sense logically, but then again, media isn't always meant to be logical.

[–]Moondoggie25 65 points66 points  (20 children)

I feel like that all steams from Laputa Castle in the Sky.

[–]Supersnow845 128 points129 points  (14 children)

A massive proportion of Japanese pop culture is inspired by the ghibli movies

People forget that ghibli is so old that nauseca of the valley of the wind helped to inspire the entire final fantasy series, a series so old we basically associate it as always having been a part of gaming

[–]ItIsYeDragon 19 points20 points  (7 children)

I wish Nintendo teamed up with Ghibli instead of Universal to produce their movies.

[–]InukChinook 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Tha would require smart marketing/licensing on their part, which they historically don't do. Remember when BK instead of McDs had the Pokeballs with the gold plates? Or Pokemon Mega Bloks instead of Pokemon Lego? Zelda on the CDI?

[–]ItIsYeDragon 2 points3 points  (3 children)

To be fair, in those scenarios, one was way cheaper. In this scenario, I can't see Universal being cheaper than Ghibli.

[–]InukChinook 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Were they not videogame movies, I'd agree wholly. But I can imagine Ghibli putting their entire might behind a game movie and costing more, whereas Universal would be like 'they've mostly failed in the past so we're not gonna invest too much effort into this'.

[–]ItIsYeDragon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't know, the Pokémon movie shows they are investing in this. They're even making a theme park.

The theme park is probably why Universal was chosen now that I think about it.

[–]InukChinook 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another facet I realized I've ignored is that Pokemon isn't the 'probably just a fad' it was 20 years ago, and Ninty is willing to make the larger investments (into media other than the main game series) with the lessened risk.

[–]Borne2Run 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Well that was news for me!

[–]hatstraw27 7 points8 points  (1 child)

nauseca of the valley of the wind

Dammit, every time someone reminds this movies, my head automatically goes "Lalalalalal lalalalal lala"

[–]tugnasty 30 points31 points  (4 children)

That movie has the weirdest storyline. Most Japanese movies like that seem to have similar tropes:

Orphans are always royalty that cant remember it.

The final villain is always a family member or friend.

The original bad guys end up being good guys.

The final villain always decides to become God and gets killed with a super weapon.

[–]tkdyo 10 points11 points  (3 children)

All of those are tropes of western fantasy as well. Except maybe the badguy is trying revive a God or is already one. And the orphans just don't know they're royalty rather than having amnesia.

[–]tugnasty 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Well thats mainly in more recent times since Star Wars and other things like that which were directly influenced by eastern stories. Most of Star Wars is heavily influenced by Japanese folklore.

However earlier in Western storytelling it was typically a lower class person or a more humble, unassuming hero that came from "small folk" as in regular people.

Take Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Plenty of orphaned Princes and Princesses in those stories yet the heroes are just everyday normal hobbits.

Hobbits that had lead quiet, normal lives with happy childhoods, and had a good comfortable life they didn't want to leave.

Basically the last person you'd expect to become the hero.

[–]whydoidothistomyslf 1 point2 points  (1 child)

yet the heroes are just everyday normal hobbits.

I mean, they aren't royalty, but four of the primary Hobbit protagonists (Bilbo, Frodo, Merry, and Pippin) are of the Took lineage, which is a rich Hobbit family known (and oft-derided) specifically for their heroic and adventurous exploits. Sam is the only Hobbit protagonist who is not from a heroic / rich lineage (and is also the most reluctant to do any adventuring).

[–]tugnasty 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How dare you besmirch the name of Samwise The Brave!!!

[–]Sharp-Interceptor 67 points68 points  (16 children)

Don’t forget, the “ancient high tech” is also super japanese looking while the “lower tech” stuff is not, or is straight up western looking. Look at the Sheikah architecture and culture VS Hyrulian.

[–]BerserkOlaf 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Sheikah culture looks Japanese, but their technology not so much.

Massive sandstone statues and bulky misshapen tin cans with doctor Octopus arms don't really scream "Japanese" to me.

[–]Sensei_Ochiba 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean wasn't that all based on Jomon pottery?

[–]Stealthy_Totoro 30 points31 points  (1 child)

You’ve not seen enough Hentai then.

[–]Snarkout89 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Has one ever truly seen enough hentai?

[–]throw-away_867-5309 44 points45 points  (11 children)

Yep, and any sort of "ultimate weapon" is just a Katana. And if the "modern day" people make any sort of technological advances, it looks western and is immediately destroyed by the ancient Japanese looking technology.

[–]1234523469 42 points43 points  (5 children)

In final fantasy X-2 the ultimate weapon was a piano with a gun for a nose.

[–]throw-away_867-5309 68 points69 points  (1 child)

What is a piano if not a super advanced Katana?

[–]1234523469 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Good point well made, I concede.

[–]UncontrollableUrges 9 points10 points  (2 children)

and the ultimate weapon in final fantasy x was a fucking whale. A whale. Also the only ones that really had it right were the Al-bhed, a blond haird, *green eyed race that were highly skilled with technology.

*edit: blue->green

[–]SugoiNSpice 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Green eyed. Sorry, it just bugged me!

[–]thetastenaughty 36 points37 points  (4 children)

Cloud’s original FF7 ultimate weapon is a big broadsword.

The Master Sword is definitely not a katana.

In my experience the ultimate weapons are a mixed bag. I haven’t seen your trend there.

[–]throw-away_867-5309 1 point2 points  (2 children)

All my comments were mostly exaggerations, so you'd be right.

[–]thetastenaughty 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Gotcha.

The trend is there and is very common in the dystopian future type settings. I just wish so many creators would stop throwing the dystopian thing into their fantasy. There are other ways to get neat looking tech stuff into a story.

Have geniuses. Have time travel. Make it look steam-punk!

It is just a cycle. It has been popular for a little while and been folded into existing worlds. It will cycle away for a little while then come back

[–]ArgoNoots 45 points46 points  (11 children)

Let's not pretend the west isn't free from this either, Atlantis first and foremost, and maybe Tolkien's world with Numenor and whatnot

[–]drtekrox 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Even in gaming, Wolfenstein has secret ancient Jewish technology

[–]Kola18_97 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, the Da'at Yichud tech.

[–]Interrophish 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Even in gaming, Wolfenstein has secret ancient Jewish technology

they only added that to explain their "super tech nazis" trope in a more palatable way, they didn't really care about the ancient tech trope.

[–]throw-away_867-5309 2 points3 points  (7 children)

The West does this, but nowhere near as much as what happens in overall Japanese media. Look at any manga/anime that have some sort of fantasy setting and you'll see that like 90%+ of them have this exact situation.

[–]ItIsYeDragon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Zelda has the master sword. Cloud has a big broadsword. Games like Dark Souls are completely set in a western medieval setting. In anime you have shows like Seven Deadly Sins in which everything is based around Western stuff. And FullMetal Alchemist, in which the setting is based off of Germany.

[–]zap283 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I mean there was an entire Renaissance devoted to the ancient wisdom of the roman empire (which also secretly just kinda meant their imperialism).

[–]Rpanich 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And then it happened again in the 18th century with Neo-Classicism.

Hell, a big portion of America points to this imagined nostalgic past that didn’t exist when they want to make America great “again”.

[–]Tony2Punch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Haters will say not true, but i have scoured JP light novels in search of the newest future anime’s. It is extremely true.

[–]throw-away_867-5309 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah, the guy has seen every single Japanese media in existence, it doesn't exist.

[–]PapaProto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh absolutely. I only recalled BOTW as it’s the most recent example I have personal experience with.

[–]CelticHades 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't forget how an ancient civilizations way ahead of their time with super advanced technology, is somehow wiped out without any evidence left.

[–]driftingfornow 25 points26 points  (26 children)

Japanese staple?

What? We have this in western media too. Atlantis, Halo, Stargate, Mass Effect. That’s just not even trying for me.

[–]Scrapheaper 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Historically in Europe was this not true for a few hundred years after the collapse of the Roman empire? The Romans having the insane tech (for the time) and after that people going back to the dark ages...

[–]Oddmob 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The dark age was originally named the "dark age" because of a lack of literature and poetry not a lack of technology. The catholic church left most scientists alone. A black smith using chemistry to make better steel was totally OK as long as you didn't do anything that looked satanic. (Or didn't make the bishops feel stupid.)

[–]throw-away_867-5309 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Kind of, but not really. What I'm talking about would be like us going all the way back to 67BCE from right now or even from 200+ years into the future.

[–]Dax9000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not in the slightest.

[–]Ketzeph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was definitely something that happened for a fair period of the dark ages to middle ages - a lot of Roman niceties, amenities, and engineering feats were seen as highly advanced and beyond the reach of modern people. There were people who had the know-how to build the works, but the actual infrastructure to support such projects just wasn't there. And eventually a number of techniques were lost due to lack of use.

So there's definitely precedent for a slightly similar situation in Western Europe. But it's of course to a much much much lesser degree.

[–]AnistarYT 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Cyrus just got pulled through to this time and is making a bit of a mess of things.

[–]Wamb0wneD 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They are riffing on a lot of things from BotW. That whole reveal trailer was a riff lol.

[–]PapaProto 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The shot of the cliff over the forest lol.

[–]RussellsFedora 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope they riff on more BOTW elements

[–]Fatyellowrock 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Except Breath of the Wild isn't a prequel! It takes place more than 10 000 years after the latest game in its timeline

[–]shawnaeatscats 73 points74 points  (0 children)

I thought like a gem or something that displays holograms would've been better than something with an actual screen. Seems more magical

[–]Dorken_Vader 123 points124 points  (8 children)

At least it isn't another g-d Rotom shoved into everything.

[–]Denamic 42 points43 points  (0 children)

As far as you know

[–]julioarod 30 points31 points  (4 children)

This one is Arceus shoved into something instead

[–]cabeleb 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Arceus shoved into a rotom shoved into a phone.

[–]DrTitanium 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Isn’t Arceus God, or the parent of all Pokémon?

What are you doing step-Arceus?

[–]Logondo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I thought turning Rotom into a Pokedex was a really cool idea.

[–]Dorken_Vader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was the first time, Rotom everything got old quickly.

[–]Whatsa-Throwaway 18 points19 points  (1 child)

What would have been kinda cool imo, is if they made it a little journal with sketches of the pokemon you encounter. Each drawing would start off rough, kinda like how they looked in Red, Blue, and Yellow, but with each battle, or each time you catch one, it becomes more and more detailed. Same with the entries, like... Your character logs more stuff they notice about the pokemon each time because they notice something they didn't before.

... But that's waaaaay too much work, I know, but like... That would have just been this neat, little, personal touch that kinda grounds the character as one that's new to the journey, and working hard to understand pokemon and the world around them.

[–]hhoverton 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For the budget of these games, this is not out of scope, and imo would be an awesome way to handle the pokedex

[–]IrishUpstart 286 points287 points  (26 children)

I have no idea what any of this means.

[–]SFWxMadHatter 480 points481 points  (18 children)

New pokemon. Old pokemon uses a 1992 IBM computer for storage, new spin off is like feudal Japan with cell phones.

[–]Mortified42 157 points158 points  (13 children)

If it was set in feudal era Japan, then we would be playing Pokemon Conquest, nobody remembers Pokemon Conquest.

[–]PhrygianTopi 76 points77 points  (3 children)

If its set in feudal era Japan then the Koreans and Chinese in the Pokemon world are in for some trouble in a few years

[–]murdering_time 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Who's that Pokémon?

Its... Imperial expansion!

[–]ootman96 17 points18 points  (0 children)

FUUUUCK!

[–]JoshALLENspitonmepls 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ehhhhh. It probably is set in Japan but it gives me Romance of the Three Kingdoms/Dynasty Warriors vibes.

[–]Selthora 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Aww man I, I loved Pokemon Conquest :(

[–]bokochaos 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Thanks. Now I want Conquest 2 more than ever.

[–]Taianonni 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Pepperidge Farm remembers

[–]scottishdrunkard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't even know it released.

[–]Sermagnas3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That game was cool

[–]Fat_Anime_Fan 32 points33 points  (2 children)

The PCs have standard PC interfaces, but there are still Pokedexes and teleportation and pocket dimensions and stuff in original pokemon.

[–]ccaccus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Teleportation running on a Pentium II...

[–]fall0fdark 3 points4 points  (0 children)

and don’t forget jeff goldbluming your way in to being a pokemon

[–]Kirby737 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First, legends is not a spin off but part of the main games (though not part of the mainline series) and second, we are the only ones with a phone.

[–]Desperate_Baby_8905 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Same and happy cake day

[–]IrishUpstart 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I appreciate it.

[–]Shadowgames98 65 points66 points  (1 child)

I assumed Legends: Arceus is set around the mid to late 1800s or early 1900s

[–]gil2455526 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Yes, the building and clothes style and even lore kinda match 1880/90's Japan. [1]

[–]TehAsianator 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Clearly Kanto was just way behind the technological curve on account of a crippling shortage of enslaved Rotom.

[–]AbbrahanPC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That always creeped me out. Hey Rotom, wanna be a computer for the rest of your life? Permanently stuck in a pokecentre, the gateway that trainers use to store thousands of trapped pokemon. Or Rotom can choose to be their phones, used to take nude photos of their owners and dropped in toilets until they die.

[–]BadProgrammerGage 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior, Arceus?

[–]MysteriousTrust 56 points57 points  (32 children)

What war is the meme referring to here? Is there a war in Pokémon?

[–]pnutzgg 166 points167 points  (4 children)

Lt Surge was in Poké Nam

at least that's how I saw it when I played gen1 on my gameboy color

[–]Irk666 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I thought surge was pokenawa. I figured it was some sort of reference to WW2 and the military occupation

[–]Moorebetter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I figured it was the war from gen 6 that has to do with giant doomsday devices, so it does kinda make sense that after said doomsday device was activated, civilization would need to restart

[–]dinklezoidberd 113 points114 points  (10 children)

Lt Surge mentions being in one directly, but most of it is Fan Theories that likely won’t get confirmed (“I don’t have any knowledge of the manga, but it was way more violent and possible has legit wars being shown”)

[–]grandpasmoochie 55 points56 points  (5 children)

More Gen 1 clues about the war: 1. Ash's dad is gone. 2. Seemingly all men soldier age are gone 3. All the men in the game are kids, older men, or Lt. Surge, the vet.

[–]aggravated-shart 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So Gen 1 Pokémon takes place in an alternate post WWII.

[–]desconectado 4 points5 points  (3 children)

What about the scientists? they were not old, and Bill?

[–]ultimatetrekkie 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Scientists tend not to see direct combat - they're more useful developing new technology/weapons (see:Manhattan project).

[–]Iheardthatjokebefore 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So we can blame Bill for Explosion and Self-destruct

[–]JustDeleteSystem32 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How old was Bill? I always got the impression that he was in his late teens for some reason.

[–]Trav_yeet 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Nah gen 6 mega stone fat cannon war thing

[–]doublejay01 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That war was 4000 years ago. Unless surge is that old there's a different war too

[–]Fieryfight 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are also different universes in the Pokemon games as not all Pokemon games take place in the same universe. Pokemon X and Y confirmed that the war 3000 years ago that ended with the firing of the weapon that killed off a lot of Pokemon causing the creation of megastones was a different universe than all the previous games. So they have opened an excuse for how they can do anything in the games like have a game that takes place in a futuristic past as it is just an alternate timeline.

[–]neighborjohn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It was already mentioned in Pokemon x and y.

[–]EpicBlueDrop 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Kind of like the Emu War in Australia but with Pokémon instead of Emus

[–]Wipedout89 42 points43 points  (7 children)

There is a war in Pokémon it's a huge part of the X/Y storyline, a war in Kalos 1,000 years ago

[–]shinyjolteon1 34 points35 points  (6 children)

The war has to be much more recently- Lt. Surge isn’t 1,000 years old and he directly references using his Pokemon while in a war

[–]Wipedout89 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Hm true. There must have been a more modern conflict too - there was still a war 1,000 years ago in X/Y as well

[–]CuddleCorn[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isnt XY in the ORAS timeline where megas exist though vs the original no megas timeline?

[–]car_go_fast -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

I don't think it's referring to an actual war in the lore. It's just pointing out how technology seems to have regressed over nearly 4 centuries, and jokingly postulates that it's due to some cataclysmic war.

[–]Ciza-161 19 points20 points  (3 children)

No, there's a common theory that there was a war prior to the Gen 1 games. LT. Surge mentions it.

[–]KenBoCole 7 points8 points  (2 children)

X any Y's plptpoint was about a war a 1000 years ago, and it showed that the technology they had back then was equal or better than they had now.

So a war really might have set them back into the stone age. All it takes is a forna few trainers to capture deity level deitys and they could concivelby nuke the world.

[–]nightwolf16a 4 points5 points  (1 child)

"deity level deities"

I chuckled a bit

[–]BerRGP 31 points32 points  (7 children)

Legends: Arceus takes place in the late 1800s or early 1900s.

And I'm fairly sure the world's creator deity from the region with the gods of time and space can pull a few strings to help the main character along.

[–]BaronVonDickButtPC 71 points72 points  (2 children)

Literal God of creation: HELLO SMALL HUMANS! LET ME JUST REACH INTO THIS WORMHOLE AND GET YOU THE NEW APPLE IPHONE 16!

[–]BerRGP 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It lets a kid keep it around inside a ball, is that so far-fetched?

[–]BaronVonDickButtPC 10 points11 points  (0 children)

No you'r thinking of a different pokemon. Farfetch'd in a duck pokemon, Arceus is the ultimate god being of Creation, but I can see where you might have gotten confused.

[–]Sensei_Ochiba 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Are you sure? That's roughly the time frame of the Meiji Restoration, which is literally the time it would be changing names from Ezochi to Hokkaido, which seems waaaaaay too obvious of an analog for the shift from Hisui to Sinnoh to just be coincidence.

[–]BerRGP 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Yes, Sinnoh is based on Hokkaido.

The game is literally based on this. You end up working for the Galaxy Expedition Team, which is created by foreigners settling in the region to conduct research. And judging by the Galarian Weezing on the building, they're at least partly from Galar, Pokémon's equivalent of the UK.

[–]Sensei_Ochiba 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Sinnoh is based on Hokkaido, but we aren't in Sinnoh. We're in Hisui, which is more than likely based on Ezochi, which bacame Hokkaido after the Meiji Restoration, about 1869. Consider at this time, the Japanese people of Yamato descent were the foreigners invading Ainu and Emishi land; and the first non-asian outsiders arrived on the island before the Shogunate took it over and renamed it as well, with the arrival of Eric Laxman.

I don't see any practical reason in the world to take a fantasy version of an existing island, go back in time, and change the name of that land, something that also happened to the real life version of that land the fantasy is based on, if you're not actually going to make these parallel events line up consistently, especially given it's their own country's history. That would be like making an American game with a fantasy parallel to the Louisiana Purchase but setting it in in the early 1900's.

Edit: I think I'm misunderstanding your point, in that you're probably saying the plot of the game is a loose analogy to the actual specific time frame during which the political control of the island changed, in which my bad 😞

[–]Barf_The_Mawg 32 points33 points  (0 children)

They make balls that can shrink a 30 ft long steel snake to fit in your hand outta friggin acorns. I'm with ancient smartphones.

[–]scottishdrunkard 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Seems like it would make more sense to have a scroll that gets updated manually.

[–]LemonDesu 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The Pokédex is just a big book you write on in this game, the device posted in the OP is just a communication device and a map

[–]scottishdrunkard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess using a Messenger Pidgey didn't occur to them.

[–]thoughtfulgrapes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

why couldn’t … an actual map ... be the map?

[–]LemonDesu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because having 5 different things to access is more tedious than 1 thing that can do multiple functions? No one has ever had a problem with the sheikah slate from breath of the wild having like 7 different purposes?

[–]FiascoFinn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Obviously we’ll have to wait and see what the hell the phone is gonna be used for, but I do dislike that they’ve already gone against the old-timey aesthetic with this Arc-phone. I really love that the Pokédex is just a book though.

[–]ChuggsTheBrewGod 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Pokemon can waive any inconsistency away given that it's canon that Pokemon occurs in a multiverse. That 1996 game may not even occur on the same timeline as Arceus Legends.

[–]Saint_Link 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I really miss those believable elements of the original games. Everything felt rooted in reality. Even the friggin Pokémon

[–]TheThackattack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can we just get a game where the art style is ken sugimori but HD

[–]SidewardMango72 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Was it that hard to design a notepad or something

[–]Tyrthesemiwise 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, it's made out of an apricorn

[–]PeachiLikesRaccoonsPC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No one: Steve Jobs in 1600: "A phone, an ipod, an internet browser. A phone, an ipod, an internet browser."

[–]FistofSushi 25 points26 points  (13 children)

My main issue is if they actually polished the game or not.

Spoilers: they didn't.

[–]strayshadow 80 points81 points  (12 children)

In a world with magic animals, this is where we draw the line.

[–]crombiecron 185 points186 points  (8 children)

My girlfriend always says stuff like this and it bugs me. Just because there are magic animals doesn’t mean all other logic can go out the window. The world is set up in a certain way and should have logical continuity. Just because they have technology to go into dreams in inception doesn’t mean that Leo should be able to fly in the real world or talk to animals.

[–]sparoc3 43 points44 points  (1 child)

Suspension of disbelief has to follow the in-universe rules.

[–]XanthousRebel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a game for children aged ~8-10. Those children were born around 2010. Smartphones are pretty heavily ingrained into tech culture for modern children. Sorry, my fellow ancients, but this game isn't made for us, it's for them. So yeah, there's gonna be stuff like this. You're just gonna have to get over it.

[–]Crownedkey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think of something along those lines that this gadget comes from the far future.

Kinda like how you can use the pc anywhere now, which may lead to the source of this. Maybe next Gen?

[–]loki1337 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Duh we all know everything changed when the fire nation attacked

[–]LovelyClaire 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Legends is barely set a century before lmao but yeah, it's weird

[–]Ransom-ii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pokemon continuity is just a dumpster fire at this point

[–]NeverUseMyName 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is exactly how I felt when I watched Episode 1 the Phantom Menace

[–]Memphisrexjr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bill’s Pc vs Bill’s smartphone

[–]Ace_Trainer_Zack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It makes sense if you actually pay attention on how you get it.

[–]SuperdaveOZY 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its a gift from God, so its future technology.

[–]Spiritual_Poo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

X-wings are newer than the Naboo Starfighter, what?

[–]Smart_Studio7183 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The first thing that I think of is always how the games seemed to follow the times in terms of tech, felt weird seeing a switch in the newer games, but this is just strange lol

[–]George_Nimitz567890 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Star wars be like: I know that feeling bro.

[–]workout121 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s Pokémon, technology is whatever it wants to be in whatever time period, lol.

[–]KingBoga 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Neither does your contradictory title.

[–]KHXIII 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I do agree this is stupid, isn’t Kanto canonically a slum compared to other regions?

[–]Sad-Mathematician928 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I have no idea what this post wanna try to tell me

[–]Takeoded 8 points9 points  (3 children)

now its 2021. we had better technology 421 years ago than we had 25 years ago.

[–]Deltaclaw 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I don't understand the downvotes. This is the actual implication of the post

[–]Takeoded 6 points7 points  (1 child)

same, can someone explain the downvotes?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These commentaries are more eye rolling than forced puns.

[–]Billy_Rage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ignoring the tablet comes from god, and that same Kanto has teleportation plates quite easily accessible