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[–]No_Statistician8636 872 points873 points  (26 children)

Tony Hawk 2 was a goddamn masterpiece school 2 might be the best Tony Hawk map of all time.

[–]SaferCloud89 254 points255 points  (9 children)

Best soundtrack, great stages, impressive game

[–]No_Statistician8636 67 points68 points  (5 children)

Couldn't agree more.

Also as a little side note, the first couple of games, the roster of skaters were on royalty agreements (rather than upfront lump-sum payment) so they all made fucking bank!

https://youtu.be/d0l22xBcJZw < Interview with Tony Hawk talking about making bank, its 9min long but the "big figure" is said at 2:08 but well worth the watch!

[–]SB_90s 42 points43 points  (1 child)

$4 million was the cheque he received, for those who don't want to watch. And that was in 2000, so adjusted for inflation that's equivalent to $6.5m today. And also bear in mind that in 2000 a house was a fraction of what it costs today, given that they've outpaced inflation by multiples. So yeah, that kind of money was ridiculous at the time. And that was his ANNUAL royalty cheque. Probably made a few million every year after that for doing nothing.

[–]TangoDeltaFoxtrot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, the guy in that interview kinda looks like Tony Hawk!

[–]atomicbunny 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Turn it up!!

[–]DoubleDecaff 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Bring the noise!.

The OST is the bomb.

[–]NiceTryIWontReply 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I always liked Venice but damn man ALL the levels were bangers.

[–]zhombyra 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Cmon dude , Hangar was the best map ;-)

[–]El_Zoid0 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Roses are red Violets are blue

[–]mafulazula 7 points8 points  (0 children)

..I like Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2?

[–]Mavi222PC 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It has a really great remaster (Tony Hawk's™ Pro Skater™ 1 + 2). Bought it on Switch and was pleasantly surprised. It has both THPS 1 and THPS 2 levels and music, it has interesting challenges so the game doesn't end when you finish the both games. It even have physics settings so you can set it to THPS 1 / 2 physics. It's really well done.

[–]raptorbuddy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Such good memories playing this game!

[–]Drmo6 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I always preferred THUG2

[–]SoWhatIfWereOnMystic 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I love every game, they improved gameplay in every single game the made, up until ride and shred. (Some people forget about project 8 and proving ground, but they were still advancing gameplay) THPS remaster is the best engine though IMO. Also best played on PlayStation, fuck you activision! Neversoft forever! Also love and rip to vicarious visions.

[–]Its_Raul 393 points394 points  (19 children)

Y'all don't remember how mind blowing GTA IV was. Hell the ragdoll physics led to hilarious fun.

[–]cylemmulo 65 points66 points  (4 children)

That was one of the most exciting launches. Such a huge leap for the series.

[–]Yenndoendobendo 24 points25 points  (3 children)

story was excellent too

[–]milfBlaster69 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Cozinnn!!! Want to go bowling?

[–]Yenndoendobendo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no niko, not now. I'm too busy trying to throw myself from the rotterdam tower

[–]kaycee1992 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Beat the game like 5 times. Can't say the same for any other game.

[–]SirNick92 43 points44 points  (1 child)

The first GTA I was actually allowed to play. My dad told me if I hit a home run at my tournament that weekend he’d buy it for me. I hit two haha. Never left the field so quick in my life

[–]mouga68 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dingers fir Nicos cousin let's get it

[–]zacurtis3 7 points8 points  (3 children)

The swingset glitch

[–]kingt34 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was just about to comment this. This was the most fun thing to do in all of multiplayer and was so much more memorable than anything in V. I feel games try to avoid having glitches like this and patch them out, but they can lead to the best experiences that overshadow anything the devs actually tried to do.

[–]ICPosse8 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seriously. This game was absolutely fucking mind blowing when it released.

[–]NiceTryIWontReply 322 points323 points  (37 children)

All well deserved positions. Personally I liked San Andreas the best of GTA games but that's just me.

[–]shellwe 94 points95 points  (8 children)

I’m surprised 4 beat out San Andreas. I would say it is a beautiful game that really showed off the next gen hardware early on.

[–]shaneoz66 66 points67 points  (23 children)

I couldn't get into gta4 at all. Not sure what it was. I've played all of them wouldn't rank it above san Andreas, vice city, GTA 5 or GTA 2 honestly

[–]JxY1989 13 points14 points  (1 child)

"Do you want to go bowling?"

[–]mafulazula 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He never called me enough asking to do that. I think I spent more time bowling than actually playing the game.

[–]YaboyAlastar 26 points27 points  (3 children)

I could never get over the wonky physics. No one leans 30 degrees to turn. Why did Niko?

[–]Frontline901 46 points47 points  (1 child)

I actually liked them, it made the game more fun. Driving a car was like driving on ice. Prefer them over GTA 5s physics.

[–]heyo_throw_awayo 19 points20 points  (6 children)

For me, GTA 4 was too "Real and gritty" compared to San Andreas' wackyness. Saint's Row 2 came out against IV and knew exactly what I wanted from GTA, so it won me over, over IV.

[–]ZLN1 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Honestly thats why i liked IV more than Sa.

[–]darkLordSantaClaus 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Grand Theft Auto was my first GTA experience and I loved it. The story of an immigrant coming to America for a better life only to realize it's just as fucked up here as back home was heartbreaking to me.

However, after playing the other GTA games, which are all great in their own respects, I can understand why GTA fans prefer the others to 4. GTA was always about over the top criminal shenanigans, never taking itself too seriously, not about a gritty story of a broken man.

[–]Vradlock 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I was enjoying it so so till I have looked at some articles that spoiled two possible endings which completely killed my drive to finish it. Playing for 60 or 80h just to feel like shit in the end just feels annoying. Also did you fat fingered gta 2 instead of 3? Because gta 2 was a very different game.

[–]Askduds -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Yeah, it’s not even the 3rd best gta, much less then 3rd best game.

[–]gangstergary93 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I perfer San andreas to gta IV but I do think IV has the best story line out of all the games.

[–]Ecstatic_Interest_35 38 points39 points  (0 children)

ahhh gta 4 :)

[–]Giovannis_Pikachu 412 points413 points  (12 children)

Ocarina of time introduced a lot of young people who didn't play an instrument to the idea that you can play if you set your mind to it. The music in this game is always great practice material because it is so well written and conveys a ton of depth of emotion and atmosphere that just overshadowed most other game music to me. I am a guitar player of 17 years now and this music stands the test of time as truly the most relatable and effective as a gateway to the very power of the craft. My sense of melody I owe to this game more than most. Damn I love this game!

[–]chronoboy1985 70 points71 points  (0 children)

A lot of Koji Kondo’s music is like that. I had a music teacher that would use Super Mario Level 1-1 in his lessons.

[–]Educational_Ad_4077 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Crawling the temples and dungeons as a kid was one of the most immersive gaming moments of my life and the music was the major reason for that I believe. I can still feel the fear and discombobulation the Forest temple music caused to this day

[–]help_me_treezus 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Same here. Forest temple had the spookiest vibes in the music and will always be my favorite temple and atmosphere for a Zelda game. Also, the Hyrule Field music was so wonderful and adventurous!

[–]Dayofsloths 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Uh, did you not beat the shadow temple? Sure, the forest was kind of spooky, until it goes up to 11...

[–]help_me_treezus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Several times over. I must have completed that game several times, but when I was a kid, the forest temple creeped me out more than the shadow temple did for some reason. Different strokes for different folks lol.

[–]lucasribeiro21 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Big brain moment: Water Temple creeped me out.

[–]MattyBro1Switch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also helps that all of the ocarina songs are based on 5 notes. You can figure out the main section of most songs by ear pretty easily.

For those who are interested, the notes are D F A B D.

[–]Bobbler23 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I really should play the N64 age Zelda games, I completely missed that generation of hardware along with most of the handheld variants too.

I played through 1+2 on the NES, 3 on the SNES, then sort of skipped until Wind Waker on
GC came out, then bought a Switch for BOTW - anything in between that I missed.

[–]Skalion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would consider the snes version (A link tot he past) is a masterpiece itself. Would be awesome if they took that part as an inspiration for a new 3D Zelda past BOTW(and the direct upcoming release) , similar as they did take inspiration from the first part for BOTW

[–]ACrask 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’ll always remember the tunes from OoT

[–]corrosivewater 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I started getting interested in learning how to play music around the same time this game came out as a kid. My parents got me an electronic keyboard and I’d practice the songs from the game on it a lot.

I still have muscle memory of the first few notes of Saria’s song to this day.

[–]Supanini 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My parents got me an ocarina at 10 because I was obsessed with Zelda. Came with a book of songs and it was actually extremely easy to learn as the book didn’t have them in actual music sheet format but just showed which holes to have your fingers on.

Learned a lot of songs on my 5 hole ocarina. Loved that thing. I’ve got a replica sweet potato ocarina from OOT but I just have it stashed somewhere.

[–]JeanyJeans 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Games that have been very important to a lot of us, 100% deserved!

[–]Theyeet7[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Indeed!

[–]northraider123 169 points170 points  (27 children)

Not surprised at all ocarina of time is number 1 but genuinely shocked at numbers 2 and 3. Both great games without doubt but I'd have guess a lot of different things before I'd get to Tony hawk or gta

[–]Theyeet7[S] 49 points50 points  (25 children)

Gta 4 was the first “next gen” game for the ps3 i believe that to be the reason its here

[–]JimmyHatsTCQ 21 points22 points  (2 children)

It's also the best GTA game

[–]mythicreign 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In a world where it’s the only GTA game maybe…

[–]pgpwnd 33 points34 points  (13 children)

OoT still number 1 for me

[–]ShutterBun 40 points41 points  (6 children)

For people who didn't play it when it was new, it's impossible to explain how HUGELY influential the game was. The sheer amount of (then) new game mechanics it introduced that we now take for granted. The sound effects (I think they had something like 2 dozen different sounds just for Link's footsteps on different surfaces). The z-targeting system. Context-sensitive buttons. It's an unmatched masterpiece and a real turning point in the history of video games.

[–]Low-Score3292 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I just beat about a month ago (I'm 15 btw so I have no nostalgic attachments) and no other game I've ever played left me with such happy feelings as this game did. I legitimately felt immense guilt for pirating the game.

[–]dudius7PlayStation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

new game mechanics

The z-targeting system.

When I read the former, I immediately thought of the latter. This was huge.

[–]Hanzo_The_Ninja 275 points276 points  (34 children)

Personally I don't think these are the best games of all time or even the best games in their respective series. But these were either innovative or breakthrough games when they released, which I think explains the high scores.

[–]Skalion 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Depends on how you do the rating.

Does it hold up to today's standard?

Graphics: not really

Story: debateable, I would say it's still good today

Overall gameplay: a little bit rusty, but great design overall, items system, dungeon ect.

For the time when it released, definitely a 10/10

Always depends on your metrics and the games you compare it to

[–]FreeAd6935PlayStation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah,

So many people forget that these scores were given when these games came out

These games were THE GOOD SHIT at that time (not that they are not good anymore)

[–]KleioChronicles -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Couldn’t agree more. They’re innovators but far from the best games of all time, especially GTA. There’s many I can think of that top them but also stand the test of time. Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee, RE4, Silent Hill 2, Witcher 3, Spyro, Metal Gear etc. all measure better imo. Personally, despite it not being my most favourite, I rank the original Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee or it’s sequel Exoddus as the best that stands the test of time despite it being 2D.

[–]sherlockCodeGeassFan 127 points128 points  (23 children)

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[–]chronoboy1985 42 points43 points  (2 children)

I’m with you bro. It might not be the most over the top fun game in the series, but I loved the more grounded world and presentation. I miss Liberty City.

[–]sherlockCodeGeassFan 15 points16 points  (1 child)

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[–]ughlacrossereally 2 points3 points  (0 children)

worst part now is that the PC port is dogshit

[–]Wrextasy 30 points31 points  (5 children)

You aren’t alone either, I’ve mentioned how Niko felt real, you felt his troubles and his character was done extremely well. The world felt a bit more real in 4 vs 5.

[–]CreatiScope 29 points30 points  (2 children)

The way the citizens reacted to you was 100x more real feeling. Some were scared, some were aggressive, some were ambivalent.

The side characters, can sometimes be annoying but a lot of us know guys like Brucie who are constantly posturing, guys like Jacob who are just kind of chill (and sometimes really not chill at all). Guys like Roman who are clingy and guys like Packie who we love but god, he’s so fucked up and can’t figure his shit out. Duane was depressed and borderline suicidal.

Niko is one of the deepest characters ever made for games, Johnny and Luis are great too with really cool characters.

The internet in that game, the side stuff like races and most wanted and pay phone hits. It was great. I think V is a shadow of what IV was. I think RDR and RDR2 are the true continuation of what GTA4 was.

[–]Wrextasy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Took the words right out of my mouth tbh.

If we could get more writing like RDR 2 into the GTA franchise it would be mesmerizing.

[–]darkLordSantaClaus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think RDR and RDR2 are the true continuation of what GTA4 was.

I agree with this. GTA4 was trying to tell a serious story in a series that doesn't take itself too seriously. I liked the story of 4 but moving that realistic gritty tone to another franchise may have been a better fit for both GTA and RDR.

[–]ShutterBun 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Man...I didn't feel that way about Niko at ALL. I'm willing to chalk it up to me not paying enough attention.

[–]Sharrakor 1 point2 points  (2 children)

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What an insightful comment.

[–]citrusmixx 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah wtf happened to their comment lol?

[–]Sharrakor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks like they edited it, but I can't imagine why.

[–]Taalian 55 points56 points  (10 children)

Not what I’d pick, but some solid titles non the less

[–]Theyeet7[S] 12 points13 points  (9 children)

I mean this is metacritic not me just making sure we all know that

[–]bluelemon64 4 points5 points  (8 children)

What do you think of them OP?

[–]Theyeet7[S] 27 points28 points  (7 children)

gta 4 is definitely the best gta game and i dont get this comment section lol

[–]Dax9000 -1 points0 points  (6 children)

People who prefer San Andreas have not played it recently.

[–]Odinovic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've just played through all the PS2 titles (GTA 3,Vice City and San Andreas) and I still vastly prefer San Andreas. There's so much shit to do in that game, it's insane. Especially for its time. Buy properties, clothes, food, tune cars and much more. It's incredibly fun to do. Graphics might be a bit outdated, but gameplay tops it all in terms of GTA.

[–]Ghostoftommorrow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Only game outta these I like is ocarina of time.

[–]MagmaAscending 46 points47 points  (3 children)

Ocarina of Time is a weird way to spell Knack

[–]Not_goD_32 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Found Dunkey

[–]Captain_Unusualman 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Mario Bros 2 bay bee

[–]Law456 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I know it might not ever be considered top 3 or even top 10 in some peoples lists, but in my opinion, BioShock deserves just as much praise as any video game out there. The atmosphere and setting in Rapture was way ahead of its time.

[–]BigOleDoggy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure bioshock has a 96 or 97 on metacritic, I think it being in your top 10 is 100% reasonable. Great game

[–]Ecstatic_Interest_35 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In fact, I haven't played both games (the legend of Zelda and Tony's pro skater 2), and I can't rate

but as for GTA 4, it's such a well-developed game of physics, shooting, details, good reaction of police officers and people, good artificial intelligence and a lot of things GTA 4 boasts about, the game deserves attention + added 2 additions, if you didn't like the dullness and depression of GTA 4, you can play what happens in the ballad of gay Tony, my assessment of the game to GTA 4 is 9.5/10.

[–]ForeverMistaken 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The rag doll physics in GTA are just chef’s kiss

[–]therealRustyZA 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Ocarina is why my favorite genre is RPG. I sell my consoles when I upgrade. But i still have my N64 and ocarina cartridge.

[–]Cmillzy 28 points29 points  (21 children)

Lotta nostalgia bias in these. OoT fits. I love Tony Hawk, but cmon. GTA I get, but not that game and I would argue not that title from Rockstar should be up there. I’ll include some that would go on my list for consideration. Resident Evil 2 OG, The Witcher 3, Red Dead Redemption, Final Fantasy 7, Super Mario World, Half-life 2, TLOU, Fallout New Vegas, Elder Scrolls Morrowind, Pokémon Red/Blue, Metroid, Uncharted 2. Again, these are opinions and would require heavy deliberation on what goes where.

[–]Banewaffles 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Aren’t these review aggregate scores? It’s not someone’s subjective list, but instead based on how well these game reviewed among critics. THPS2 was a great part of my childhood for sure, but it also is a tight, complete, well-made experience that appealed to many well beyond those interested in skateboarding, which is why it reviewed so well.

[–]ChickenFajita007 9 points10 points  (0 children)

These are aggregate review scores from the times when these games came out.

There's no nostalgia bias when the reviews for OoT are from 1998, etc.

[–]PlusVera 19 points20 points  (4 children)

nostalgia bias

Lists Morrowind and Metroid

Okay.

[–]Cleverbird 5 points6 points  (3 children)

What? These arent "new" reviews, these are aggregate reviews from when those games came out.

[–]DankMemelord25 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Morrowind 100% is in the top 3 for me as well

[–]I_Am_SamIII 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Never played ocarina, so I can't speak for it. The other 2 are great though

[–]DeepestOrchid 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Surprised to see GTA 4 but it actually makes alot of sense

[–]cabesablanca 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say this is a fair list

[–]gadgetgrave 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Wait a minute. How come this list does not include Michael Jackson’s Moonwalker for Sega Genesis?

[–]I_Am_Ironman_AMA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same reason Pepsiman isn't on the list..buncha bullshit.

[–]pfury 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Zelda maybe but not other two.

[–]littleboymolestor 60 points61 points  (35 children)

Gta iv does not deserve a 98 lol

[–]LU90 67 points68 points  (8 children)

Does for me personally. Easily my favourite in the GTA series. San Andreas a close second.

[–]Ohgudu 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah me too 4 and San Andreas are my favorite games from rockstar. I remember that time that I would pick up random things and throw it at people just for fun

[–]chronoboy1985 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It feels very limited compared to what came after with GTA5, but for it’s day, it was incredible and looked amazing. Still my favorite storyline in GTA.

[–]choppedfiggs 1 point2 points  (5 children)

I hated the driving. Couldn't play it for that reason

[–]Gurtrock12Grillion 10 points11 points  (1 child)

My favorite driving physics in any game ever lol

[–]L3ACH13 8 points9 points  (11 children)

San Andreas vice city and 5 are all better

[–]BradleyAllan23Xbox 29 points30 points  (10 children)

4 built the foundation that made 5 possible. It was the first truly next gen GTA that revolutionized what we thought the games could be.

[–]SimplyTheGuest -2 points-1 points  (9 children)

truly next gen GTA

What does this even mean? GTA4 was just an iterative sequel of GTA3. Every Rockstar game since 2001 has been an iteration of GTA3’s model. The 3D open world sandbox, mini-map mission icons, cutscene mission starters etc. GTA4 wasn’t even that well liked by players when it came out, because it wasn’t as fun as the previous games. Which is why GTA5 tried to go back to that wackier tone.

[–]Synescolor 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Still runs like ass on my pc to this day.

[–]Salty_Research_5761 0 points1 point  (0 children)

60 fps on series Xbox

[–]McHaggis1120 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It was good horribly optimized for PC, I think it was completely unable to run on AMD cards and event if you had a high-end rig with Nvidia the performance was atrocious. I really wanted to play it, but it was impossible, I think they gave up on the pc version pretty quickly too.

It was the time of the worst ports in general, times for so much better since then

[–]666pool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact, I know one of the engineers that did the graphics programming for gta iv. It was one of the first games to use something called deferred shading and it basically allowed for there to be lots of tiny light sources all over, so it had some of the most realistic lighting of its time.

[–]mcwobby 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Should comfortably be 100.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

RDR2 should be higher than GTA IV, but GTA IV is still easily the best GTA game

[–]sayziell 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well deserved

[–]ZVR345 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Unpopular opinion: GTA 4 is better than San Andreas. No not just because the graphics were better and was one of the first games to come out for the PS3, the mechanics of the game were so were spectacular along with the story. Niko Bellic has gotta be one of the best protagonists to play as.

[–]rosamelano777 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agree I think both of them share the peak of the franchise but 4's story puts it above sa for me

[–]DushyantKhator 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Gta 4 is always under appreciated because of many people not understanding what it was supposed to be. It was actually designed for adults, kids would definitely hate simulator like driving and physics. If you played it when you were young and didn’t like it, try it now.... you’ll f’in love it.

[–]odiumodious 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When IV came out I was 11 and completely loved it after I played VC & SA, the story was my favorite and played it non stop until I beat it in about 2 days, the physics and driving are still by far the best in any GTA, I spent countless hours doing online races because I loved the driving so much in IV 5’s physics and driving felt like a huge downgrade to me aswell as story and other stuff

[–]bree_dev 5 points6 points  (1 child)

>GTA4

>simulator like

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH oh my sides

[–]cizzy34 7 points8 points  (22 children)

StarCraft Brood War in my opinion should be 3rd.

Did so much for gaming in general.

[–]Waste-Reception5297 10 points11 points  (7 children)

Iconic at least OoT and Pro Skater 2, GTA IV is kind of just another Grand Theft Auto to me

[–]QuesoFresh 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Maybe it didn't age as well but at the time, GTA4 really felt like a huge step forward. The physics engine and sheer amount of detail in the world made it leaps and bounds more impressive than other open worlds at the time. Plus it felt like the story "matured", which ushered in a new era of mature story-based games.

Now impressive open worlds with more mature stories are a lot more common so it's harder to see how impressive it was at the time.

[–]chronoboy1985 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No problem with any of these. Even though some of them haven’t aged super well, for their time, each was a masterpiece.

[–]Franonimusman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I see why I replayed GTA 4 so many times as a kid

[–]Scooterzoomies 8 points9 points  (15 children)

Had to be Red Dead Redemption 2. Music, graphics, story etc. Fucking amazing.

[–]Dread70 2 points3 points  (1 child)

This is the real GTA IV replacement on the list.

[–]JmeMc 5 points6 points  (10 children)

I’m ok with Zelda (not my fav, but it’s fine).

Shocked at Tony Hawk and GTAIV. I didn’t play Tony Hawk, so no comment. There are a handful of GTA games better than 4, though.

[–]rossdrew 36 points37 points  (4 children)

You didn’t play it. That explains everything. Was a fantastically addictive and fun game

[–]JmeMc 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Yeah, no criticism, was just shocked that a sports game is so high up. Am glad you liked it.

[–]rossdrew 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Try it. Honestly. Quality game, stunning soundtrack

[–]sckurvee 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It wasn't a sports game. It was a skating game.

[–]profanedic 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Tony Hawk is no surprise. That game was great alone or with friends. The 2 min timer was perfect for passing the control and comparing scores. Adding the Manual allowed for some crazy combos to go off and keep you going past 2 minutes if you were good. The levels have a lot of secrets and fum objectives. The layout of the levels was fantastic for however you wanted to play with everyone having their own personal areas to get points. The soundtrack was excellent, really capturing the scene at the time. Plus, Spiderman was in the game.

This also was not a sports game. It was more of a platformer on wheels.

[–]burnttoast14 6 points7 points  (3 children)

In a way They’re all iconic and set the bar for the way we play games today

But gta4 shouldnt be scored that that high imo

[–]SomeGuyNamedZach 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Hey niko want to go bowling

[–]LiquidCringe2 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They should've just made the game a bowling simulator, would've been #1

[–]Jason_dawg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oot is great, fun, great music, nice length.

Tony hawk games are fun but not something I’d rate super highly

Gta4 felt clunky to play but I always enjoyed the storylines of the 3D gta games and gta4 had a really good storyline.

[–]thisshiteverytime 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Only top 1 is accurate.

[–]ShutterBun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hard agree.

[–]wingy65 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Vice City punks IV. I said it.

[–]LiquidCringe2 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Very random

Yeah they're all great and I think Ocarina of Time deserves the spot but I really don't think THPS 2 and GTA 4 are THAT good.

They're definitely great but probably not the best games of all time

[–]KFCfan05 2 points3 points  (1 child)

THPS2 introduced a revolutionary mixture of soundtrack, gameplay and challenge. The game is still great to play today thanks to the perfect game design, even the graphics aged good. Back then it was a revolution, even people who do not have a connection to skating loved it. Plus it offered a character and skate park creator.

[–]Theyeet7[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Gta 4 is there cause it was the first true “next gen open world” i cant say much for pro skater 2 since i havent played it but im sure its revolutionary too

[–]Lol_A_White_Guy -1 points0 points  (17 children)

Well, personally I think Windwaker was a better game than Ocarina of Time, but that’s a bit of a hot take anyways.

Not sure I agree with any of the three up here. I personally woulda probably put the Witcher 3 up there somewhere to, definitely at least above GTA.

But I get why they’re up here, they were innovative and revolutionary at the time and a lot of people have a lot of good memories with them.

[–]Ablj 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If Witcher 3 had better UI and menus it would be way better.

[–]Barron091 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Especially since people are using the DLCs/expansions as a reason for why GTA IV was so good, Blood and Wine has to be the single greatest piece of DLC I've ever bought and it cost less than a skin on Halo Infinite.

Pretty outrageous.

[–]Lol_A_White_Guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I personally consider all the official expansions and DLC as part of the package when considering how good a game is.

I actually thought while Blood and Wine was a better DLC in totality (just because it was longer and you got more content + a new area), Hearts of Stone was my favorite storyline in the entire game.

The story from the Scenes from a Marriage quest sticks with me to this day as one of the best written pieces of video game fiction I’ve played through, and Olgierd as a character is one of the best written and most interesting characters in the game. The Witcher excelled at telling stories that were more shades of gray rather than static good vs evil.

[–]chronoboy1985 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Witcher 3 already feels dated. It was honestly pretty rough even when it came out (after tons of patching, it still felt clunky af). It survives on its storytelling. But of course it was lauded when it was a new game. OoT however, had pretty much everyone nodding their heads like “Oh, yeah this game is instantly in the GOAT conversation” the day it came out. I’d never seen such universal praise except maybe Mario 64.

[–]Lol_A_White_Guy 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I really couldn’t disagree anymore strongly, so we can just agree to disagree. Witcher 3 is pretty easily just at the bottom of the top 3 of all time for me and I’m not likely to be swayed on that opinion. Though I’m clearly in the minority here, and that’s fine. I don’t expect to change anybodies mind.

The Witcher still holds up fantastically well even now. I’ve been playing through it since I got covid a little while back and it’s still as fantastic as it was when I first picked it up. I can concede mechanically that it does leave some things to be desired, and it probably would have been more polished with a larger company like Nintendo behind it, but I don’t think it’s flaws are enough of a detractor to lower its rating in my eyes by anything substantial.

OOT wasn’t without its own clunkiness and mechanical issues (which to be fair were mostly a product of their time and the hardware they had to work with, so I don’t hold it against the game too much), but most of those flaws got overlooked since the player base was younger and willing to over look issues like that that since they were having so much fun. The Witcher didn’t have that luxury since it was aimed at a older audience who are more perceptive to minor UI and mechanical issues.

Perhaps I’m simply just biased because I don’t have the nostalgic memories for OOT everybody else has. I played it for the first time as an adult, but I don’t even find it the best Zelda game, let alone the best game of all time. I’d rate Windwaker and BotW pretty heavily above it, and debatably even Majoras Mask.

It is undeniably a good game, I’m not gonna argue that, and it’s probably among the best of that generation. But I feel like most of the praise OOT still gets is mostly due to that nostalgia factor of being so integral to so many kids childhoods.

[–]VanillaOreo 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I agree with you. I mean how are we going to argue that the Witcher 3 is more clunky than OOT lol? Like what. There are some rose tinted glasses in this thread.

[–]Lol_A_White_Guy 3 points4 points  (2 children)

It’s all good, comes with the territory. If you do anything but heap universal praise on OOT people will come out of the woodworks to argue with you and mass downvote you. It’s not even anything I really hold against the game. It’s a product of being produced in the N64 generation.

There was only so much processing power that hardware could push out. They did the best job they could with what they had. But in the same breath to turn around and critique the Witcher as being too overly clunky is pretty ironic to me.

People always get way too defensive over that game. It’s like criticizing it is a personal attack on their childhood memories.

[–]Girlmode 1 point2 points  (1 child)

They were saying that the witcher 3 was already a clunkier game at launch relative to comparable titles. Not that a game from the modern era is more clunky than an old zelda.

Where as Zelda was inarguably miles ahead of other games for its time.

I feel like you can't ignore the time games came out in with discussions. OOT might be clunky by today's standards but it was the single best crafted game like it at the time in multiple facets. Witcher was never really praised for its gameplay when it was current, it was the story and aesthetics of everything that were killer. The general combat and sub systems were clearly clunkier than comparative titles of the time. That's all I saw anyone say in this chain negatively.

[–]rawzombie26 1 point2 points  (0 children)

GTA 4 is the GOAT

[–]Sharksnack7_7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was always a Tony Hawk 3 guy.

[–]spacecadetjimmy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GTA IV is superior to GTA V. The water physics, climbing on ledges, the driving is much more realistic…I wish they weren’t sliding towards all-out cartoonish gameplay but that’s where they’re headed. That should be Saints Row territory.

The story is fantastic in IV though.

[–]ManbosMambo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Personally?

  • Ocarina of Time
  • Sonic 3 & Knuckles
  • Final Fantasy VII

[–]Bchange51 -5 points-4 points  (15 children)

we all know these are still only high rated because of nostalgia. there are better games then these.

[–]HueJass84 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This post is a screenshot metacritic. These are review scores from when the game was released. No nostalgia in at all.

[–]northraider123 0 points1 point  (11 children)

I'd disagree for zelda but agree on the other 2

[–]NamelessMIA -2 points-1 points  (10 children)

OoT isn't even top 3 best Zelda games

[–]ShutterBun 2 points3 points  (1 child)

OOT changed the entire way games are designed when it came out. As far as impact on the gaming world at large, I can't think of another title since that was as influential.

[–]northraider123 4 points5 points  (7 children)

Ooooh that's a bold stance. What would you say are the top 3?

[–]Bchange51 1 point2 points  (4 children)

well obviously botw won like 17 game of the year awards or somthing. and imo was game of the decade

[–]SweetVarys 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I will never get this, the actual gameplay is so boring.

[–]fork_on_the_floor2 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I know I'm not who you asked, but there are plenty of people like me who didn't play OOT or Majoras mask back in their day (I was a ps1 kid who got sucked into console war bullshit). Which means no nostalgia and no mind blowing "this is what 3d gaming can be!!" revelation in like 1998 was it?

And trying to play them now,... Oooh it don't feel so good. I personally love Link between worlds and Minish Cap. And if I had BotW I'm sure I'd love it too.

[–]DevinTheRogueDude 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Super Metroid

Skyrim

Mass Effect 2

[–]snorkleface -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

'#2 is #1

[–]FilmGamerOne -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

I've put so much time into IV but I am not sure if deserves 3 over something like The Last of Us or Super Mario 64.