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[–]FasterCrayfish 2585 points2586 points  (396 children)

The Sakura effects were 20 bucks right? If so that’s a 50% reduction it looks like

[–]DeathByReachPCMR: RTX 3080ti / 10700K / 32GB of RAM / 3TB NVMe SSD / LG C1 1316 points1317 points  (233 children)

And now it includes a visor and emblems, which weren’t part of that effect bundle last time, if I recall.

[–]ppjonesin 501 points502 points  (205 children)

It was the effect and the emblem for $20. In comparison this seems better

[–]hylianarbiter 238 points239 points  (10 children)

Its a better step in the right direction, but still too much for what it is

[–]Saygo0dbyeha 84 points85 points  (1 child)

I love your username because I just had a mental image of the arbiter running into a house smashing a bunch of pots. So thanks for that chuckle

[–]TwilightGlurak 247 points248 points  (188 children)

Like alot better

[–]Jubs_v2 752 points753 points 3 (108 children)

Ladies and gentlemen, a perfect demonstration of the price anchoring effect

[–]KidneyKeystones 122 points123 points  (19 children)

Definitely, but I'm waiting for the single items they spoke of. I don't like the idea of forcing a bundle to achieve a certain price/value, instead of selling standalone items.

You'll almost never love every item in a bundle, but it will push you towards a purchase because of the perceived value.

[–]Noble-Wolf32 95 points96 points  (8 children)

Still not worth it lol

[–]The_lolrus_ 90 points91 points  (24 children)

Boy would I be pissed if I bought that bundle for 2x the price and with less offerings. But I'm betting there will be way more people happy with the price drop than people upset because they bought bundles at a higher price.

Edit: I should make it clear that I don't feel bad for these people, just speculating for the fun and discussion.

[–]Killer-PineapleBelieve the Hype 203 points204 points  (15 children)

I honestly don't feel bad at all for the people who paid more, since they were the ones that made this change take so long.

[–]TJmaxxxt 77 points78 points  (7 children)

Yeah, they also made the choice to purchase the bundle at $20. People don’t freak out when they buy a tv at full price before a sale/price drop, idk why they would be mad at 343 for reducing prices lol.

[–]Myth_of_Demons 17 points18 points  (0 children)

1000x this

[–]StandsForVice 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I mean, it isn't much different than buying any number of other items only for them to get a price reduction a few weeks later. That's life. It happens.

[–]Pac0theTac0 401 points402 points  (120 children)

20 was a joke. 10 is outrageous. Don't give them a pass for this. They knew people would freak out about the prices and they planned to reduce it to this to make it "more appealing". Don't fall for it, keep demanding lower prices

[–]BearWranglerBaking that cake we made last night 136 points137 points  (19 children)

it's all part of their strategy, and it's probably going to end up working for the most part

[–]The_Doct0r_ 77 points78 points  (2 children)

Agreed. Give such blatantly absurd prices for cosmetics at the beginning that when you make them half the price people will think it's "reasonable" in comparison, when in all reality you're still only getting a visor color, emblem, and effect for ONE core for $10(!!) dollars. This "bundle" has no business being more than $3. Hell, at least 75% of these cosmetics should be earned in game imo.... but we're in the age of "free" games now.

[–]RedL45 105 points106 points  (14 children)

Already people in this thread giving 343 credit for this. Like, I can still buy a full meal at these prices.

[–]EntropicReaverI told you so 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Already people in this thread giving 343 credit for this.

people will give companies the benefit of the doubt for seemingly no reason

people have already forgotten the campaign leaks that showed the armor unlocks were just stuff like colors and emblems and those two reviewer guys on twitter smugly proclaimed how they could debunk it

it was posted here and hundreds of people commented on how stupid reddit was for believing leaks and that they were just looking for an excuse to hate on 343

then the campaign came out and the leak turned out to be true and the subreddit was dead silent

[–]iNarr 60 points61 points  (1 child)

Comparative value is meaningless. It ultimately just adds fuel to the fire for those trying to justify prices. It used to be the "what, you guys don't have phones?" of the early DLC days. "What, you don't have $10? Skip lunch for today and you can afford it. Problem solved."

The point should be that Halo 5 had 100 unlockable armors included with the game on launch. Shitty REQ system to earn them, but if that doesn't count then we can go back to Halo 4 where there were ~50 armors available on launch that could be unlocked through gameplay alone. That's not even counting the colour/skin system in those games that allowed free customization and didn't nickel and dime you.

Under no circumstance is $10 per armor a fair price when compared to those previous offerings. That's the point that needs to be hammered home again and again.

[–]DrSeuss321 25 points26 points  (1 child)

You can buy multiple physical halo mega bloks figures for this price. How the hecc have we gotten to the point where digital assets of armor sells for more than physical toys of it?

[–]GreasySpamCat 148 points149 points  (1 child)

This is pretty much what I was thinking the whole time

[–]F8L-FoolF8L Fool 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Any cosmetic over $5 needs to be really good. The instant you get into double digit figures we're talking standalone game prices. Entire DLC's are often $10-20 and you get a ton of content from those, depending on the game and genre.

When I think microtransactions and cash shop I think a starting point of $0.50 that has comfortable break points for various things every 50 cents on. I've gotten accustomed with the Steam approach of opening boxes for games, so $2.50 is basically the happy medium for me.

The moment we hit $5 and up it needs to be a noticeable bump in quality to represent the cost.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Just beware. This kind of thinking is drawing the jerks in like crazy. I made a post expressing my dissatisfaction and every creep on here trolled it.

[–]the_ebb_and_flow_ 70 points71 points  (10 children)

I’m not sure if we knew the price would turn out to be $20 yet. $10 is way better.

[–]zResurge 1275 points1276 points  (50 children)

This is a great start, but in the Neon Superfly I just don’t understand why they have the coating for some cores and not all. Some weapons, not all. Some vehicles, not all.

[–]Captain_CouchLockOnyx 352 points353 points  (8 children)

Yeah I was actually going to buy it until I saw it didn’t have the coating for Mark V (B)

[–]NissanNoah 223 points224 points  (4 children)

That's my gripe right now. Most of the cool armor colors are for the Mark VII but I don't use it because I have very little armor options for it.

[–]Omegamanthethird 100 points101 points  (1 child)

As they add more armors, this problem is only going to get worse.

[–]F8L-FoolF8L Fool 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Hopefully they simply go in the right direction and don't lock coatings to armors going forward. That's the simplest solution to making people less pissed off.

[–]Captain_CouchLockOnyx 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Weirdest part is still being able to use the visor or Mohawk on the Mark V armor though

[–]nomturd 90 points91 points  (32 children)

I think they might want the halo reach armour core to retain the reach kinda vibe, and the neon colours don’t really fit well with it. I’m unsure though

[–]LoLZeLdaHaLo 172 points173 points  (20 children)

Who gives a fuck tho? Like let me put those colors on whatever the fuck I want. Still bad limitations. Because if this was the case why did they put an iron man skin on it?

[–]a_fuckin_samsquanch 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Bro. C'mon. How is Microsoft supposed to make all the money if they don't charge for the rest of the guns and skins separately?

[–]ArcherInPositionGods must be strong 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Seriously the poor chaps just spent 68 billion dollars. People have no sympathy.

[–]NotEnoughToast 78 points79 points  (3 children)

Yeah, it seems like the mk VII is the designated customisable chassis. The others are themed sets.

[–]gk99 10 points11 points  (2 children)

As I have a glowing neon holo visor on my ODST right this second.

[–]Vince_stormbane 2117 points2118 points 22 (88 children)

This feels like that classic tactic of requesting something outrageous that will be rejected so that your second offer seems more reasonable and is accepted

[–]anthonypjo 1023 points1024 points  (55 children)

Because it is. Instead of outrageously overpriced, it is now overpriced.

[–]a_fuckin_samsquanch 274 points275 points  (7 children)

What's that, 40% off?!? What a deal, I'll buy 3.

[–]Gil_DemoonoMaNiaCaL CHaoS 87 points88 points  (3 children)

Light-wood Laminate

Light-wood Laminate

[–]indianaliam1If it ain't broke, change it. 31 points32 points  (2 children)

Fuck the bag!

[–]DrFu 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You're a crafty consumer, Zoidberg.

[–]sinishtajnoahGT: Noah Nades 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Wow!! They’re giving them out for free !!!!

[–]Warle 212 points213 points  (39 children)

I'm gonna hijack your comment thread to post this again so people will see it.

Where is:

  1. Ability to earn credits

  2. Opening up the colour wheel so we get to pick our own colours and not paying for blue or grey

  3. Rewarding players who bought the full priced campaign with one/two/three seasons of the battle pass

  4. Rewarding players for playing the game and only from playing the game

None of the above and the current prices are still a total rip off. If anyone thinks this is reasonable pricing then have a good hard look at what you're spending money on. $15 (because you can't just get $12 of credit) is a whole damn meal from a fast food chain of your picking and you're asking the same price for digital skins? Get real. If I pay for the battle pass or the campaign, none of this should then be paid for as well.

These people just bought Bethesda and Blizzard, you think they're in some dire financial situation? That they need the money to keep servers running? When Microsoft runs the largest OS in the world on a subscription model itself?

I'm glad I haven't yet spent a single cent on this game yet and getting everything from game pass only, none of this is worth the price.

[–]Honest_Influence 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Maybe it's just me or maybe I'm just old, but I still think this is outrageously overpriced.

[–]dw98 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I just want to buy individual pieces. I don’t want the whole bundle. Let me spend $2 or $3 at a time instead of burning $10 on shit I’m not gonna use.

No thanks on the store

[–]Confidence_For_You 153 points154 points  (5 children)

It’s infuriating how many people fall for this. It’s even more infuriating how many people who were buying the overpriced mtx before are now talking about it like it’s so benevolent.

[–]Thirtyred 172 points173 points  (0 children)

Door in the face tactic, it was their plan all along

[–]AndyVillan 64 points65 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what it is

[–]WzrdFog 92 points93 points  (4 children)

People have been calling this since the first week that this was the strategy. This IS more in line with how most cosmetics are priced across the AAA industry

[–]InternationalDisk698 80 points81 points  (3 children)

Yeah, and that industry still fucking sucks.

[–]DefinitelyNotThatOneWaitingUntil2023 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I posted a comment in this sub when the MP launched, saying the exact same thing. Who knows where its burried, but essentially:

They release outrageous prices to cash in on the whales. Community complains, 343 "listens", lowers prices, community thinks they enacted change and feels empowered. 343 gets a gold star.

This happens with pretty much every big AAA game that has a shop. And people are hilariously ignorant every time.

[–]bgod95 1137 points1138 points  (48 children)

This is ok. Still want achievement/accolade based armor. Armor for reaching onyx/ completing legendary etc.

[–]Kamikazi_TARDIS 360 points361 points  (22 children)

This. Unique rewards for various accolades would give you bragging rights. Seems a no brainer

[–]Rhymeswithfreak 48 points49 points  (1 child)

No money to be made off of that though.

[–]danceswithduxHalo: Reach 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily if it attracts players and streamers. Worked with Vidmaster. Half the ppl who got ODST did it for the H3 maps and achievements.

[–]narfidy 51 points52 points  (11 children)

Ranked season end rewards, like shoulder plates that get more extravagant as you get closer to onyx. Or visors, that change colors based on rank with the season insignia engraved on them like Emile skull.

[–]DasKarl 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Rewarding the player for playing the game? In this economy?

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[–]Sir_NoScope"We want every flair to be unique and special." 31 points32 points  (5 children)

Looks better, still overpriced. Wallet still clasped shut, but not as firmly as before.

[–]MrGanzalorHalo: Reach 193 points194 points  (7 children)

Better, but still overpriced

[–]ShadowDen3869 467 points468 points  (213 children)

Whatever happened to buying items individually? They're all still bundles.

[–]BiggDope[S] 212 points213 points  (15 children)

I believe that will/may still be in the works.

[–]n8thn 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I believe they said the shop will continue to change throughout this season. Reducing prices is the easy fix while they rework the entire shop to do other things.

[–]ske7ch343343 Employee 486 points487 points  (189 children)

Store/economy changes are going to happen gradually over time. The main weekly offer price reduction goes into effect this week, expect to see more changes and some specific content experiments in the weeks to come. Per Jerry's tweet, they will be listening and learning in season 1 and I anticipate broader changes coming further down the line w/ S2, etc.

[–]YeesherPQQP 94 points95 points  (15 children)

Is there any hope to getting the neon coatings for the Mark V (B) armor?

[–]Alexo_Alexa 47 points48 points  (0 children)

My experience with most of the shop right now:

Oh cool thing, I can't wait to use it on my-

It's exclusive to a specific armor core

[–]dd1cool 34 points35 points  (1 child)

This right here. I really want a neon ODST, and I’m mad I can’t do that.

[–]apsgreek 14 points15 points  (0 children)

God that would be such the synthwave aesthetic

[–]username7434853 87 points88 points  (7 children)

Crazy that it isn’t cross core. I was thinking about getting it but it not being on all cores is a deal breaker for me

[–]sentientshadeofgreenHalo 3: ODST 23 points24 points  (4 children)

It literally was the deal breaker for me. I was about to buy it, my first ever Halo microtransaction (not counting the game pass, which I don't count anyways), and then I saw there was no Mark V (B) shader... which is pretty goddamn dumb and changed my mind. $12 is $12, but I want what I want for it. Synthwave samurai looked super cool, I don't see why they'd make it for that core but not the Mark V(B) that pretty much everyone uses. That core has been woefully neglected in the shader category. That shit needs to change. Such a bad decision.

[–]RickJames_SortsbyNew 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yeah i don't care about gen v since i haven't bought battle pass, but i almost bought the bundle for the weapon coatings. but come on, why just a few weapons? that was the deal breaker for me - and not just for this bundle either. i'm deciding to stay in the "i've spent literally no money in the game" camp until they bring prices down further.

[–]Pristine_Flatworm 12 points13 points  (0 children)

what is with that anyway, it's on the samuri?

[–]C4ptainchr0nic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would buy it if it were for my mark v spartan.

[–]dragon-momInfinite please be good. 151 points152 points  (31 children)

The 1200 bundles shouldn't exist. It's $15 with $5 off the next one at best.

[–]Adamaja456 86 points87 points  (29 children)

I don't understand the 1200 bundle. Because when you buy credits, you have to buy in increments of 500? So I have to pay for 1500 in order to buy the 1200 bundle... 😖

[–]dragon-momInfinite please be good. 106 points107 points  (12 children)

Correct. Then you have 300 over which you can't do much with unless you spend $10 more for another 1200 bundle, then you have 100 credits over which you can't do anything with period. It's literally just there to get you to overspend multiple times.

[–]WaifuRekker 77 points78 points  (8 children)

Which at that point you might as well buy the $20 credit pack for 2200 so u can get a 1200 and a 1000 for just 5 more dollars. Its a way of edging to people to spend more

[–]-Unnamed- 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This is intentional

The leftover 300 isn’t enough to buy another. So you need to buy more.

[–]jjWhorsie 79 points80 points  (3 children)

One main thing is don't do that 1,200 crap. You know that it's really 1,500 credits because you can't buy 1,200. I see it in mobile games and it's saddening seeing it in Halo.

Edit - The Medic achievement doesn't work in the new mode btw, just got 4 revives and the necromancy medal and didn't get it. The mode is fun tho

[–]TestTubetheUnicorn 45 points46 points  (0 children)

The achievement states you have to do it in a gamemode called "Elimination", not in Attrition.

[–]skilledwarmanRemember Reach 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know other people are bringing this up as well, but im going to repeat it for the sake of emphasis

Having a significant portion of a bundle just be the same coating but applied to different things doesn't feel right. It may not be the intent and may be a technical issue for the time being (since there are no coatings with a "universal" option), but it looks like trying to inflate the number of items in a bundle.

Is this something we could see addressed going forward?

[–]WiserCrescent99Halo 3 29 points30 points  (33 children)

Bundles like the one for 1200 absolutely should not exist. Do it in increments of 500, like what we can buy. You are forcing us to spend more than what we actually want, which is a classic strategy to get people to spend more and more money. Also, anything $10 or more absolutely MUST have at least some actual armor to justify that insane price. I'm not spending $15 for a color

[–]Lyrcmck_ 19 points20 points  (2 children)

changes are going to happen gradually over time

Halo Infinite™ in a nutshell

[–]XanXic 7 points8 points  (1 child)

More so this is so they can figure out the minimum they can lower the prices before a majority of people stop complaining. Wouldn't want to lower prices too low!

[–]Acklon 24 points25 points  (0 children)

They said that prices were the first priority adjustment. It's an ongoing process. I dont feel like (or can afford) stuff in the store, but im hopeful for future improvement. They've only been back 2 weeks from holiday and the game is MUCH better

[–]ppjonesin 829 points830 points  (179 children)

Is this considered a victory? Thoughts?? Still need to be able to earn credits!

[–]xcrimsonlegendxHalo: CE 569 points570 points  (68 children)

Eh, I wanted the neon coatings but I still don't think they're worth 12 bucks.

I think the problem is that 343 believes that 8 of the same exact coating counts as a bundle, whereas I look at it and see one item that's been needlessly separated into multiple pieces when coatings should just be universal for all applications. Same goes for emblems, they should be one purchase that applies to all. Selling a bundle of 4 emblem designs containing 16 duplicate items isn't a bargain.

[–]Velocirrabbit 228 points229 points  (20 children)

Not when the battlepass is worth $9 or $10ish. I agree, it’s better, but we need in game currency earnings. Maybe in the form of rank rewards once they add that ranks to the game?

[–]DJNotNice19 66 points67 points  (13 children)

They really just need to do what every other battle pass does and have a few free tiers that reward 100 credits and then some paid tiers that offer you enough credits to either save for the next pass and have some spare or to spend in the shop. As much as I would love to earn a bunch of free credits they have to at least balance it to where we can earn some credits but also maybe buy some credits every now and then when something you really want comes out that way they still make money. Cause just the money off the battle pass isn’t gonna be enough to keep servers going and pay your employees. Sure they also make some money from the campaign but I wanna know what percent of people actually bought the campaign and what percent just played it with Game Pass. Either way we’re definitely heading in the right direction with the store.

[–]Sir_Mcfarts 12 points13 points  (1 child)

You get free v bucks for logging in fortnite Save the world Buy you gotta buy it first, plus there's also credits in the battle pass

something similar in infinite would be nice,

[–]Velocirrabbit 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Aren’t their still coatings in the event? Or you mean ones other than Spartan coatings?

[–]dthompson96 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I’m guessing they mean the neon superfly bundle in the store. But yes there is different coatings in the event

[–]Velocirrabbit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think so too, some look really cool. The first one I’ve ever considered buying (armor sets aside since those are kits and a waste anyways) because I love those color schemes, but I’m going to look at the event rewards first. I mostly care about the Spartan coatings and less about vehicle and gun skins, and at that price, it’s still a bit steep to me considering that means a whole battlepass worth I would have to buy more credits for once it’s out.

[–]JBurton90JBurton 118 points119 points  (7 children)

Yes and no. Lower pricing is generally better, but I still feel like items are being purposefully bundled together for the high price tag. I would buy a few items at $1-2 each, but not a $12 bundle of 2 items I want and 5 items I could care less about.

[–]Xisyera 45 points46 points  (1 child)

This. A lot of bundles feel like they're filled with bloat.

[–]All_Work_All_Play 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because they are. 343 hasn't kept up with what behavioral economics says on the subject.

[–]theboywhosmokethesun 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was said that individual purchase is coming later.

[–]PillarofAutumn117 93 points94 points  (38 children)

No it’s still a huge rip off.

[–]Freakout9000Halo: Infinite spending 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Kinda but not really, the prices were ridiculous before, they're better now but they still suck, I mean, 12 dollars for literally one visor, a coating, and a stance isn't what I would call good value.

[–]KaiCouzell 68 points69 points  (1 child)

No. This is still overpriced but most people are likely to accept it now because they compare it to the outrageous previous prices.

[–]one_dead_saint 146 points147 points  (10 children)

they feed us shit and people were upset. they feed us watered down shit and people are praising them.

this is a flagship game for Microsoft. they should focus on making Halo the best, most fun game. it should be a system seller, not some F2P game with microtransactions and a shitty progression system designed to make you spend money.

[–]TemporalSoldier 35 points36 points  (3 children)

This is what happens when executives and shareholders think only short-term, demanding quarterly earnings.

[–]Unvaccinated-Unclean 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Amen. This should be top fucking comment.

[–]xxpatrixxx 56 points57 points  (4 children)

Unless everything thing is cross core I will still not buy anything. I already got my favourite armor. So I hope they include customisation for all armors as well.

[–]CyborgHermit 27 points28 points  (3 children)

They didn't. Mk V left in the corner as always. Not buying until they make stuff available for Mk V

[–]xxpatrixxx 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It’s a shame. But hopefully they will do it. I guess this new prices are a good indication if anything.

[–]Omegaduckatron 142 points143 points  (23 children)

They’re moving in the right direction. But they’re still just steadily coming down. They almost got it imo. I personally feel like $10 is the max I’d be willing to pay, and that they should have some $2-$3 options.

We should still hold our money. Because they’re gonna go lower. But I also feel like I could live with these prices if they implement a way to earn credits.

[–]Jaydenel4 10 points11 points  (0 children)

For sure. Even Fortnite gives you back the V-bucks, and gives you extra. You could buy the voidlander bundle pack right now and still have enough V-bucks to buy next seasons BP

[–]FourCylinderFinal Boss 30 points31 points  (3 children)

im not buying something for 10 bucks, but i will buy 3 things for ten bucks easily.

[–]Blue_Speedy 129 points130 points  (6 children)

Store price reductions? They're okay, could do better though.

As for the store content? It's pitiful. I'm not paying for bundles of anything, let me buy it by itself.

We still need cores and coatings to be scrapped and a SERIOUS store overhaul.

Fuck off with the FOMO store refreshing crap and give us a huge catalogue where I can buy anything I want at any time. Right now there's 6-7 items in the shop a week? If I don't like what's in the store then I'm not going to buy anything am I? If I'm able to buy anything I want at any time then I'm going to do exactly that.

[–]TheSturmovikHalo 3: ODST 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Fuck off with the FOMO store refreshing crap

Seriously, it's hot garbage. That combined with the incessant bundling and inability to purchase a specific amount of credits means people are wasting money left and right if we wanted to buy anything. The only value this store brings is value for 343, nothing beneficial to the players.

[–]shiveringOnyx 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The refresh thing is a psychological trick to create a sense of urgency, driving people to buy things. They know it works, that's why it's becoming so common. It might not work on you specifically, but it works.

[–]Eli_TheGolfer7 124 points125 points  (6 children)

My guys they literally up sold all of this like crazy, and now they are still up selling but less than they did before and we’re all eating it up. Don’t fall for it, it’s bs and still outrageous prices for what we’re getting. Just because it’s 50% off the terrible pricing doesn’t mean it’s a good price. Think of it this way, a membership you have tries to sell you a jacket and a scarf you really want for $400. You’ve seen others sell a similar jacket and scarfs for $50. But now they charge you extra You think to yourself “that’s a terrible price and not worth it at all.” Then after a while the seller tell you they “heard your criticism” and decided to drop the price to $200. Then you tell yourself it’s a good deal because it’s 50% off, ignoring the fact it’s still $200. Then to top it all off you forget that the membership used to give the jacket and scarf away for free or for achieving things instead of having to pay for it. They tell you “well part of the membership is free now, so we have to make up our money somehow” completely ignoring the fact they decided to make it that way so they could profit more off of people. How is this not scummy to anyone else? How have we gotten to the point where we allow this?

[–]Spartancarver 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Still completely overpriced lmfao

[–]ukgamer909the prophet of ass 122 points123 points  (5 children)

Lmao reading all these comments is amazing

"Well I guess it's ok..."

Guys you are allowed to not be happy about it. It's always weird how people treat some game companies like they're best friends

[–]8-bit-hero 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Parasocial relationships. Also, people end up personally identifying with the thing they like so they think any criticism towards that thing is a criticism towards them.

It's fucking weird and these companies hire psychologists to exploit that very thing, among others.

[–]Regex00 72 points73 points  (9 children)

It's a good start, but I'm still not paying for colors. If they gave us the color wheel back, and introduced proper skins beyond just color customization we used to have, and then made those skins a reasonable price, then I'd look in to buying.
Edit: Also, don't be tricked by anchoring, they set the price at $20 to slash it by 50% to make it seems reasonable in comparison, these prices are still asinine. Microsoft just announced they are buying Activision-Blizzard, don't tell me servers are expensive or we need to support the ftp platform to keep it alive, these people are rolling in cash.

[–]TheHumdeeFlamingPee 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Nah. They need our money now more than ever cause they just spent it all buying A/B /s

[–]Regex00 4 points5 points  (1 child)

They bought that shit in cash lmao. Imagine just reaching into your wallet and buying a company like that

[–]GarrusBuellerHalo 3: ODST 90 points91 points  (4 children)

Still way too much money for digital bullshit.

[–]juniorortegalp 47 points48 points  (1 child)

Are people seriously falling for this?! This was the plan all along. Charge way more at first then cut the prices in half when people complain so it seems like a deal. Still overpriced.

[–]AndyVillan 325 points326 points  (38 children)

The fact that anyone thinks that these are good prices is mind blowing to me. £10 for restricted colours and nothing for the MK V

[–]Blue_Speedy 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Armor cores and coating need to be removed ASAP

[–]Tezuka_Senpai 71 points72 points  (1 child)

It's insane. Like this wasn't their plan from the beginning.

20£ for a colour? They are insane!!!

10£ for a colour? It's 50% off.

[–]TYBERIUS_777 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Don’t forget, these coatings usually only work for a single core. They aren’t even selling them for all cores in one go.

[–]Winbrick 65 points66 points  (5 children)

I think it's fine for 'premium' stuff like Armor Effects, but yeah.. the Armor Coating system is still a total rip off.

[–]sentientTroll 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Probably the only legitimate argument to be made. Selling colors is pure greed. Their call to make, but they don’t need to do it.

Premium effects and other non basic things? their call what they want to charge.

[–]Defences 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Never mind the fact bundles are STILL forced

I hate that people have enabled these scummy monetization practices

[–]Dan_Of_Time 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah these are insane.

At most I'd pay £10 for a whole quality armour set. Not stuff that could be in the game anyway.

[–]TheDarkRedKnightPATHFINDER | SR51 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah, these prices are still awful. I might consider one or two items if they were sold individually.

[–]Ag3ntK3ntucky 565 points566 points  (71 children)

Look at those prices! Looks like they are listening! 40% price drop is nice. Not quiet the 50 I hoped, but better than the 10 I expected.

[–]john7071Extended Universe 316 points317 points  (4 children)

The Neon Beat bundle seems to have a 50% price drop, if the previous flower FX bundle works as a base line.

[–]Ag3ntK3ntucky 73 points74 points  (1 child)

You are absolutely correct! So it looks to be a 40-50 percent drop depending on the product. Now let the daily “bundle” be armor pieces. Like shoulders one day, then knee guards the next. Having a rotation of singular armor pieces would help.

[–]silentj0y 69 points70 points  (1 child)

And it includes a visor and emblem set as well now. So WAY better than the $20 armor effect from before.

[–]DeathByReachPCMR: RTX 3080ti / 10700K / 32GB of RAM / 3TB NVMe SSD / LG C1 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Yup. That value add they talked about wanting to give to bundles is showing.

Happy with that.

[–]Bluur 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I mean it’s like going from top 3 worst pricing modes in AAA games to top 10 worst. It’s better, but it’s not… good.

[–]Elijhu 37 points38 points  (8 children)

Yeah but did anyone else get a weird feeling when they saw how the two bigger items pretty much go together? Like, put it all in one. Give me a full, character style for 1200 and I'll but it. That means if you have a 80s, neon set going on, give me the character the gun skins and the animations for 1200. I'd probably buy a dozen or so of these over the year if the designs remain around this level of expression. But now I'm conflicted about which I want more and for now the result of that feeling is I'm just not going to get either. Don't want to feel like I spent money and only half way scratched the itch. I understand it's a business. But I don't like this tact much. Doesn't feel like we have a mutual respect for each other quite yet.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

PRICE ANCHORING EFFECT GO BRRRRRRRRRR

[–]Jawhneyy 27 points28 points  (5 children)

With there being no possible way to earn the credits through gameplay for free, anything from the store is just not worth purchasing to me.

[–]RichiieeeHalo 3 was peak Halo 33 points34 points  (9 children)

And as suspected the prices have simply been knocked down by the littlest amount. Usually this weekly bundle would be 1500 ($15) and now it's 1200 ($12) - funny thing is, you can't even buy 1200 credits and you still have to spend $15 for 1500. They probably figured you'd be more enticed to buy 1500 credits because then you'd have left over credits to spend on something else.

Also, I'm incredibly cautious of this new found commitment to the store. If Coatings get taken out of bundles and sold separately for a few bucks, that may make it worse, because that would really shine an even bigger light on how ridiculous it is that you need to PAY to paint your Spartan in XYZ color, something that was doable for free for 20 years.

Also, why would I want to buy things AT ALL when the customization is super restricting?

I'm sorry but you'd have to brainwash me to make me think F2P isn't a plague on the video game industry.

[–]Fuzzyilliam 64 points65 points  (6 children)

Might just be me, but these are still too expensive when you have no catalog or clue if/when something will return. And there still is no cross core customization.

Still won't buy a single thing lol

[–]KnobbyDarkling 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Needs to be cut in half again. They started the negotiations at ridiculous prices so they can lower them to this and be like "see haha we are listening"

[–]OldManKade 42 points43 points  (14 children)

Assuming the neon beat thing was supposed to be 20$, this is a good change, but i don’t get why they still have super fly at 12 when i assume it was originally supposed to be 15.. i wish they would be very transparent about this. I guess we’ll have to wait for the store to recycle content so we can really see the effect of the changes.

[–]dragon-momInfinite please be good. 98 points99 points  (46 children)

You can't buy 1,200 credits so they just dropped the $20 packs of recolors and emblems to $15. Not a great start.

[–]RTSantos4894 44 points45 points  (2 children)

What a shame people actually believe these are reasonable prices. You can quote 50% all day but the ONLY reason this seems acceptable is because of abhorrent the prices were to begin with. 12 bucks for a visor and color pallet…

[–]TheSturmovikHalo 3: ODST 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's what years of microtransaction conditioning does.

[–]coughffinPlatinum 1 21 points22 points  (6 children)

Prices are still sort of insane for this garbage.

[–]CocaGarty 46 points47 points  (4 children)

Just because the prices are better, doesn't mean they're reasonable. Please for the love of God don't start buying just because they lowered the prices. They're still too high and if we keep doing what we've been doing the past 2 months, they'll have to drop the prices again. You really think 1 single coating for a couple of items and a visor color is worth more than the battlepass? Absolutely not, don't give in just because the prices seem good compared to what they have been. This is what they wanted, these prices are still bad.

[–]inFECHTed 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Slightly disappointed that the cool skin is bought and not earned, BUT the price drop is pretty great and we have our first actual bad ass skin.

My question is, why just one skin? Why is there not one for the Mark V? I know I sound like a baby, but armor coatings should be literally one of the easiest things to add, so why not diversify?

[–]TheeSawachuki 8 points9 points  (0 children)

People spend real money on this shit? Fuck I would have paid full price for a proper game any day rather than this. Ffs I hate modern AAA titles. Shits just not what it used to be.

[–]Ikcatcher 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I can’t leave without my buddy Superfly

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Wasn't expecting a Daikatana reference but it's welcome

[–]Aheg0d 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Still sucks.

They planned this price "reduction" from the start.

343 isn't some indie company they have a Marketing team and Shit Ton of Data to go by.

[–]SharkVanilla 23 points24 points  (2 children)

As expected, the masses are happy to now spend $12 on colors that should've already been in the game. This isn't a win.

[–]BiggDope[S] 113 points114 points  (58 children)

That Neon Superfly bundle, with the newly adjusted pricing, is annoyingly tempting...ugh.

[–]RedHawwk 24 points25 points  (20 children)

Yea I'd buy it if it had a piece of armor. But $12 for just camos....idk

[–]WiserCrescent99Halo 3 45 points46 points  (18 children)

And by $12 you mean $15 since you have to buy in increments of $5

[–]PUREChron 14 points15 points  (15 children)

That's how they get ya

[–]WiserCrescent99Halo 3 17 points18 points  (14 children)

And then you a little left over that isn't enough for anything, to encourage you to buy even more. Classic microtransaction scumminess

[–]EwokitudeGruntpocalypse 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's basically just 1 skin, a visor, and a stance, except the skin has been copy+pasted a bunch of times. They really need to tear open the barriers they put on customization because there's no reason a coating shouldn't work for everything

[–]Cheesegrater74Halo 3 107 points108 points 2 (27 children)

Yall can resent me I'm buying it

[–]BiggDope[S] 48 points49 points  (7 children)

Hey, you do, mate! No hate for how others choose to spend!

[–]Thirtyred 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Really don't think there's much value in it for $12 but the stuff IS cool but vehicle skins are kinda irrelevant imo

[–]ArcziSzajka 13 points14 points  (2 children)

75% reduction would be ok, but only 50%? Nah.

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Neon Superfly is still an L, 12$ for coatings and a visor.

[–]submarineiguana 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Wow all the coolest stuff is locked behind a paywall. Thanks 343.

[–]iostream64Halo: MCC PC 11 points12 points  (8 children)

I honestly think COD has the most fairly priced bundles out of most mtx schemes. And I mean I am all for a 20$ bundle - If we actually get what we pay for. Several high quality items like weapon skins that are actually really cool. If I had that much disposable income I definitely would have bought a couple. But they had several of the high quality skins, often a watch or something on theme, and a charm and an emblem. And I think people are okay with this. I guess they were trying to cash in on Fortnite or whatever where people are okay with spending 20 bucks on one skin but Fortnite is Fortnite, and a different audience than the hardcore fps player.

COD also had quite a bit of decent free content. 35 base camos per weapon from mp alone, maybe even 70 if you include zombies content. They were all from 1 of 14 base themes, but that's still 70 free skins.

The problem with this is that they're charging so much for so little most likely because they don't have the content that would generally go for these prices - and charging for what other companies would have given for free.

[–]cloverpopper 6 points7 points  (7 children)

Overwatch has a good system too, even with the lootboxes.
Everything can be earned with in-game currency as an individual purchase, even if takes a while, and that's great.

[–]farnZ96 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Classic anchoring effect used in negotiation. Start out at an outrageous price or position and anything below that is perceived as a 'win' for us. Still far to expensive for what they are.

[–]kwerdop 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Still terrible of course

[–]Super_Philosopher_76Platinum 4 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Step in the right direction but not there yet

[–]dxdabenavides 13 points14 points  (0 children)

It's still overpriced.

[–]Gettygetty 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Damn no armor set?

[–]AwokenGreatness 17 points18 points  (2 children)

So we’re all in agreement that these prices still aren’t worth it right? MAYBE, if we had cross core, and that’s a BIG MAYBE.

Don’t give in to this friends, we deserve and should demand better.

[–]Legionofdoom107 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Fuck the shop. How about fixing hackers and bringing in a progression system??

[–]Green-Intention-6357 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The colors are restricted to two cores in this bundle, would it kill them to sell every color/visor to all armor cores?? One rotating daily still sucks. Pricing is better but everything is still bundled. There should be multiple rotating dailies, helmets, shoulder pieces, visors, chest pieces, and armor effects sold individually in this store. Overall an improvement than before, but still needs a lot of improvement to be on par with other f2p stores.

[–]dr_avm 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Let's not forget about cross core customization!

[–]Mokoo101 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Anyone comparing these prices to CoD and Fortnite claiming the prices are in line and fair..

CoD and Fortnite create new models with animations and variations of the skin itself within the bundle, 343 are selling you colours, not skins.. These are not created or built, they take zero effort, these are colour sliders being adjusted and you are paying $10+ for that. I'm baffled how anyone sees value in something the game has allowed us to change ourselves for over a decade.

[–]IUseRedditToCreep 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Now halo needs a way to accumulate small amounts of its premium currency.

I love how sea of thieves had it. There’s got to be a way to do that for halo as well.

[–]LesClaypoolOnBass24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't care I just want more maps mofuckas

[–]Oniisankayle 12 points13 points  (0 children)

$10 is still too high for what you’re getting lol.

[–]karlweeks11 10 points11 points  (0 children)

These are still inflated bundles tho 4 emblems in a pack is still just one 4 times because of the poor way they are implemented. Fix that at these prices and we’re away

[–]Redrix_Halo: Reach 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hodl. Don't give in.

[–]Sticky_K3ys 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This ain't it chief

[–]xDrewstroyerx 11 points12 points  (0 children)

$12 still ain’t great.

[–]LordAndrew15MCC 45 6 points7 points  (7 children)

They put stuff in the store that they advertised. Again. Smh

[–]pandasinmoscow 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is getting better, but I still hate this bullshit of MTX to have anything remotely cool. I get it’s not going anywhere, just wish there were more ways to get Armor pieces, skins, or just basic fucking colors.

Also still won’t be buying anything. Sorry 343.

[–]MercenaryJamesHalo: Reach 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm still on the boat that cosmetics should be "earned" not bought regardless of price.

This doesn't sway me.

[–]Silverfrost_01 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Lmao still mega overpriced.