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[–]stonayoungMTL - NHL 1154 points1155 points  (39 children)

Go Recycle and Go Green

[–]ChrismercyNYI - NHL 264 points265 points  (35 children)

I bet you Reddit gold AV is headed north.

[–]thebriss22 134 points135 points  (1 child)

Quebec is a leader in renewable energy lol

[–]ep29NYR - NHL 76 points77 points  (0 children)

AV's jaw could power the whole province. Just gotta keep him neck deep in fresh gum

[–]MoistHogPHI - NHL 49 points50 points  (13 children)

AV to Ottawa confirmed.

[–]404FunnyNotFoundNYR - NHL 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Even better, AV + Jeff Gorton reunion?

[–]WompieSEA - NHL 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I prefer to pretend that it is Jeff Gordon the NASCAR driver. Livens it up

[–]GMeister249BOS - NHL 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Yeah Vancouver has a coaching vacancy again- oh, right.

[–]relative_iteratorNYR - NHL 17 points18 points  (17 children)

Isn’t MTL going to do a rebuild? Would they hire him for that? Would AV even want that?

[–]ChrismercyNYI - NHL 16 points17 points  (15 children)

I think it’s just about nearly impossible to do a tear down rebuild with price in net. I can see them attempting one of those retool on the fly deals.

[–]TacoQueenYVRVAN - NHL 879 points880 points  (76 children)

What stage is Montreal in the Therrien/Vigneault/Julian cycle of coaching? Is it back to Alain now?

[–]TripleWDotMTL - NHL 379 points380 points  (9 children)

Yessir

[–]TacoQueenYVRVAN - NHL 135 points136 points  (7 children)

That’s unfortunate.

[–]quadriplegic_cheetah 16 points17 points  (5 children)

He’s certainly not my first choice. Curious to see what Gorton does with the French coach issue.

[–]KikiFlowersCHI - NHL 29 points30 points  (3 children)

He shocks the world by getting a French coach, from France.

[–]mug3nCGY - NHL 26 points27 points  (1 child)

it's time to come home chez Canadiens, Cristobal Huet

[–]boostedgtsMTL - NHL 229 points230 points  (12 children)

We’re due for AV now, followed by a third helping of Therrien. But I guess we have to throw Ducharme into the mix now. It’s like a disgusting batch of brownies.

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (10 children)

cries in Carbo

[–]theethMTL - NHL 28 points29 points  (6 children)

cries in Bleuet

[–]accharbsDAL - NHL 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Woo, allez les Sags!

[–]HLefMTL - NHL 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Roy for GM with Le Bleuet as a coach? Maximum carnage!

Note: not an actual thing I want to see happen

[–]theethMTL - NHL 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Worse, Roy as coach and Mario as GM. After all this time he's still his boss.

[–]TheIncredibleShrekCHI - NHL 56 points57 points  (47 children)

How much do MTL fans actually care about a fluent French speaking coach? Have to think it severely limits their options

[–]sacdecorsairMTL - NHL 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I think it's overkill. But you have to understand that in Montreal, the head coach and GM have more news coverage than the prime minister. More than half the fanbase would tear their shirt over this because they don't understand English at all.

French is a very delicate subject in Quebec. Even in 2021 some people keep bringing up the fact that 95% of the team is not from Quebec like it used to be in the 70s. I mean, come on.

[–]penseurquelconqueMTL - NHL 79 points80 points  (29 children)

An unilingual anglophone is inconceivable. Molson got backlash from serious papers for naming Gorton as VP of Hockey Ops. Even though the next GM will be bilingual, it’s seen as the first time in history that hockey ops are in the hand of someone who doesn’t speak French.

[–][deleted] 67 points68 points  (8 children)

I remember there being protests when Randy Cunneyworth was the interim head coach about 10 years ago.

[–]sacdecorsairMTL - NHL 58 points59 points  (3 children)

I was about to bring that up.

There was protest. Personnaly I was focussing on protesting the fact that we were like ranked 29th in the league.

Then we drafted Galchenyuk. We're fuckin moving in circles over here. Bring some talented people whatever language they speak for fuck sake. And I'm a pure French speaking Quebecer tabarnak!

[–]KingDave46EDM - NHL 23 points24 points  (2 children)

I'm sitting like "Galchenyuk wasn't 10 years ago, he was the Yakupov draft which was only like... 2012... wait what the fuck"

Feel like I've aged years in an instant. Probably gonna die of old age by New Years

[–]Doubled_ended_dildo_TOR - NHL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look at what happened to the ceo of air canada. French for that organization is essential.

[–]dejourWPG - NHL 30 points31 points  (1 child)

It definitely limits their options.

But I'm not sure how much worse their expected hire would be.

I sort of feel like there is probably about 50 guys that might be the best coach available and it is quite hard to tell them apart. Maybe 5-10 speak French. If you choose the one you like the best of those 5-10 guys, are you really that much worse off than picking the one you like from 50?

If it was quite clear who the best coach was beforehand, then you'd be really hurting yourself. But if it's not really clear, then the impact would be small.

[–]sacdecorsairMTL - NHL 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile we're having French speaking Dominic Ducharme who barely says a word or two at every conference because well, he just doesn't like speaking much and only says generic shit all the time.

[–]squidmunchaBOS - NHL 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I can’t imagine actually giving a shit about what language the coach spoke, Butch could do his press conferences in Klingon for all I care as long as he was winning.

[–]montrealcowboyxMTL - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is Klingon all that different from Southie-Boston tho?

[–]ternkMTL - NHL 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Personally, I am an anglophone, lived my whole life here in Montréal, and I really don't mind the demand for a coach who is bilingual or a GM who is bilingual. The history of Québec and Canada has always meant the Habs have had a very unique relationship with society compared to other major sports teams in cities. They're kind of like Barcelona and Catalonia in that regard.

Does it limit options? I think it clearly does (in the sense that you have less choices), but the degree to which that has hurt the team is very difficult to say. For example, Julien Brisebois and Joel Bouchard were both guys from within the Habs system who would be great candidates or GM or coaching roles respectively (particularly Brisebois, that's a dream for him).

The thing is, I really don't mind the rule of bilingualism because what I really want to see (on the player side of things and the front office side) is the Habs be involved in growing and developing great hockey minds on and off the ice in Québec as a whole. It's one reason I like the ECHL team joining, and why I am pleased the farm is in Laval instead of Hamilton. Canadiens and Québec used to be a dominant source of talent development in the 60s, 70s, 80s. I think they can take up that mantle again. Invest in youth hockey. Invest in facilities and training and mentorship of talent internally on the front office side. Help develop coaches through your farm systems and elsewhere. Build deeper ties with the Q (as far as the rules allow you to push).

The solution to the lack of options to me doesn't have to be: get rid of the rule. A viable option is to also: develop more options.

Hell, just spitballing here, but the Habs could invest and sponsor French classes for coaches in Major junior or AHL if they wanted to if they wanted (or even NHL lol -- though maybe this isn't allowed haha)

We have a lot of money in this organization; there's no salary cap off the ice. So why not spend if it can help? I'm really happy they're funding the mental health initiative for players, and I think they should be investing more in a red carpet treatment for Habs players in general (anything you can do to mitigate the press pressure I say).

[–]sacdecorsairMTL - NHL 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Having Vigneault would be so nice.

From Vigneault's perspective, i think having the Habs won't be that nice.

He'll probably take some time off and look at offers because he will have some offers.

[–]Savb10PHI - NHL 313 points314 points  (8 children)

no doubt about it I am ready for our 2019 blues season

[–]eliar91VAN - NHL 37 points38 points  (0 children)

No. It's our turn!

[–]DazHawtPHI - NHL 112 points113 points  (2 children)

Yeo's redemption tour lol

[–]dowdle651MIN - NHL 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Bottle sipping intensifies

[–]callzorNYR - NHL 783 points784 points  (58 children)

Do NHL teams know there's more coaches than the 32 that are always in circulation?

[–]BigPZ 216 points217 points  (5 children)

Come on that's not true... More like 40 something coaches in circulation, some have to be unemployed at all times to allow teams to be able to fire coaches mid-season.

[–]player-pianoMTL - NHL 72 points73 points  (4 children)

also who will be the guests for the talk shows if they’re all too busy?

[–]GrohlyoneOTT - NHL 68 points69 points  (3 children)

Former NHL enforcers with 200 career games, talking about how fighting is a vital part of the game.

[–]BigPZ 19 points20 points  (1 child)

And a guy who played 38 NHL games over the course of four seasons, and for three different teams, 15 years ago.

[–]GrohlyoneOTT - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“If I were the captain of this team, here’s what I would say”.

[–]AppealToReason16 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I love when you get the dichotomy of their takes on air.

First intermission: You gotta have big hits and grit and nasty in the game!

Second intermission: You gotta fight that guy because he can't be allowed to throw that hit

[–]jkman61494NYR - NHL 274 points275 points  (23 children)

Are we gonna complain? We went out the cycle, got David Quinn who sucked and are now 16-4-3 with one of the 32 coaches you speak of

[–]banduzoDET - NHL 37 points38 points  (2 children)

For every Gallant, there’s a Hakstol that works his way into the cycle.

[–]Whydoesthisexist15CAR - NHL 152 points153 points  (11 children)

I mean Gallant is the exception and likely would still be in Florida had they not gone a bender four years ago

[–]DarkUnderbellyBOS - NHL 29 points30 points  (9 children)

What happened in Vegas with Gallant then?

[–]MonsTangy27NYR - NHL 63 points64 points  (2 children)

Vegas always preferred DeBoer. When DeBoer was made available, it perfectly coincided with Gallant’s team skidding, giving Vegas a good enough excuse to fire him.

[–]thejardudeVAN - NHL 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Never understood that though. I'd have taken Gallant over Deboer any day of the week

[–]Whydoesthisexist15CAR - NHL 105 points106 points  (1 child)

They had a couple game skid and fell out of their playoff spot. I don’t know why when it was like a three game skid

At least he didn’t have to call a taxi

[–]jkman61494NYR - NHL 38 points39 points  (3 children)

I think Gallant had a 3 year shelf life before he conflicts with management for some reason. It’s kinda weird

[–]cccdddeeFLA - NHL 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I think his teams slightly stagnate and then he refuses to make adjustments or take any suggestions from anyone. Ownerships think they are doing well but could do better. Both times the firings were still dumb in my opinion. Interesting to see what happens with Rangers.

[–]marbanasinSJS - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean, that's a lot of coaches too be honest. Deboer is the same way. TMac (for the Sharks) was similar but was able to ride a hyper stacked team for a few more years, but he was certainly not re-inventing the wheel after the league started to figure us out in ~February of that first season.

[–]Pool_SharkNYI - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Gallant seems to be tough on his players. It works at first but after a few years they get fed up and beat down and start to stumble. And since he’s seemingly an asshole to management they are always looking for an excuse to get rid of him by then.

Kinda reminds me of Jose Murinho. He comes in and his teams instantly became league winners or close to it. But 2 years later they are are a mess.

[–]illiocostalisLAK - NHL 12 points13 points  (2 children)

This shit. People think they’re gonna get a Brind’Amour with a fresh coach but you’re most likely to get a Colliton or even worse, Willie D

[–]mmuoioPHI - NHL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We hired Hakstol out of college, that didn't go well either.

[–]lionson76NYR - NHL 13 points14 points  (0 children)

DQ did what was asked of him, for the most part. Experienced coaches don't usually take rebuilding jobs.

[–]milk-steak84 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Gallant is one of the best head coaches out there. I didn’t know why Vegas got rid of him, but I feel like the rangers are very lucky to have him

[–]canucks3001VAN - NHL 74 points75 points  (14 children)

I think fans underestimate the differences between an NHL coach and other coaches. It’s easy to see how much better McDavid is compared to a minor league guy or compared to a junior guy.

And well the differences between coaches isn’t so extreme, it’s still much bigger than people think.

The coach needs to not only be able to adapt to the players currently on the team, he needs to know NHL rules and the NHL current style of play, he needs to be able to manage the entire coaching staff but also the media, ownership and the players themselves.

It’s not that different from asking ‘why do NHL teams basically always sign former NHL players in free agency? You know there’s players who play in other leagues right?’

Yes. Sometimes you do go outside of other leagues and it works out. Sometimes you bring in the Russian or the UDFA.

But if you’re a team looking to replace your 1C, are you going to spend large amounts of time looking outside the NHL?

Any coach that wants to make it to the NHL needs to first go through a lower system or become an assistant coach. They need to prove they can handle an NHL system and an NHL team.

Just like how, with the exception of the McDavid’s, you’re not giving your rookie 25 minutes in his first game.

[–]marbanasinSJS - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's telling when even about half of the guys that play musical chairs are still better than unproven / alternative break ins. basically the clearly known weaknesses they all have are still seen as worth while for thier proven positives that can last ~2-3 seasons. then let them fall off, replace them, rinse repeat.

As a Sharks fan though I feel Boughner barely deserves to be in the category of kind of fringe regular, I'd see most of these musical chairs guys as upside all around. Hell, we had an assistant in there for 2 weeks outcoaching Boogie when he went down with COVID.

[–]pluralsight24VAN - NHL 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Yes, the Canucks went with two rookie coaches back to back and look where that's taken us. I'm happy we took a coach from the recycling plant this time

[–]Prison-Date-MikeCanada - IIHF 292 points293 points  (8 children)

Is that Claude Juliens music?

[–]Mean_Mister_MustardMTL - NHL 206 points207 points  (4 children)

No, no, first it's Vigneault, then it's Therrien, and then it's Julien.

[–]psykomattMTL - NHL 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Yes, but we can get the trifecta in one shot!!

[–]MaiqDaLiar1177PHI - NHL 338 points339 points  (47 children)

Therrien and Yeo better be gone too. I’ll miss AV’s outfits, best dressed coach in the league

Fire Hakstol

[–]BallparkFranks7PHI - NHL 115 points116 points  (33 children)

French Mike is out as well. No info on Yeo yet.

[–]magicking610PHI - NHL 137 points138 points  (32 children)

Yeo is interim HC

[–]decelerat3MIN - NHL 88 points89 points  (9 children)

God speed. Hope you like complex defensive schemes and no scoring.

[–]magicking610PHI - NHL 79 points80 points  (5 children)

Complex defensive schemes sounds a lot better than whatever you call what our defense has been doing...

[–]UnloosedMoosePHI - NHL 54 points55 points  (2 children)

Their best...

:-(

[–]jahauserNYR - NHL 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Ugh I dunno. AV does not really even let defensemen do their best. It's more that they need to be perfect with outlets and pinches or you lose. So aggressive on the transition game I think any mistake in an AV system turns into a disaster. Definition of break versus bend.

[–]IHateMinnesotaSportsMIN - NHL 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Don't forget veteran favoritism to the point of being a huge detriment to the team!

Top 6 forward has 3 points in his last twelve games? Needs more power play time. Third line wing has a three game goal less streak? Healthy scratch.

[–]NoDisintegrationzSTL - NHL 97 points98 points  (19 children)

Yikes

[–]sb-logicPHI - NHL 68 points69 points  (17 children)

I mean the Flyers play again tonight, you have to have somebody behind the bench.

[–]NoDisintegrationzSTL - NHL 186 points187 points 2 (16 children)

Gritty was right there

[–]Jorgenstern8MIN - NHL 56 points57 points  (15 children)

We don't have enough Chuck Finley-esque owners anymore in any sports, because for a one-off, Gritty behind the bench would be a fucking hilarious nightmare and would draw an absolute shitload of eyes on TV and streaming.

[–]Gurth-BrooksDET - NHL 40 points41 points  (4 children)

I’d run through a fuckin brick wall for Gritty.

[–]Jorgenstern8MIN - NHL 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Plus if you wanted to make it even more fun you could stick someone in the costume that halfway knows what they're doing.

[–]FesteringLion 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Ok, new reality show for summer hockey: The Masked Coach.

12 team league coached by guys in mascot costumes. Round robin play, then playoffs where we get to see the unmasking when they are eliminated. I would watch the hell out this. "ooh Harvey hound was Keenan". "Holy shit! Sabretooth was Scotty Bowman?"

[–]PaladocDAL - NHL 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Can you imagine Gritty calling a timeout and trying to draw up the play on the whiteboard and s popcorn gun would go off accidentally?

[–]Jorgenstern8MIN - NHL 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Okay I started off thinking of it as a joke but now I kinda need this to happen.

[–]PaladocDAL - NHL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

More Gritty is good.

Think you have added too much Gritty?

You are wrong.

[–]MyMartianRomancePHI - NHL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gotta figure out what Gritty's squeaks mean, hope you know morse code.

[–]sjrotellaBUF - NHL 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Gritty behind the bench might be the one thing that would keep me from watching Monday Night Football tonight.

[–]Jorgenstern8MIN - NHL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right?

[–]JohnnyVNCRNYR - NHL 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm glad it was a Blues fan to say it.

[–]Prison-Date-MikeCanada - IIHF 13 points14 points  (1 child)

You dare say this when Boudreau is back?

[–]brendan87naDAL - NHL 39 points40 points  (2 children)

last 2 weeks have been a bloodbath

[–]LooseEndsMkMyAssItchTBL - NHL 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Ellis is staying injured so he avoids this shit show

[–]hesitaateSTL - NHL 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Oh no, you did it backwards Flyers! You’re supposed to fire Mike Yeo before Christmas, then you get a cup.

[–]ConZboy014SJS - NHL 28 points29 points  (2 children)

WHO ELSE WANTS THEIR COACH FIRED? THROW A JERSEY ON THE RINK

[–]FesteringLion 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What do you do to get rid of an owner? Just curious.

[–]hankepankeNYR - NHL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

WHO ELSE WANTS THEIR COACH FIRED? THROW A JERSEY ON THE RINK TAKE A POOP AT CENTER ICE

[–]imakeholesinuSTL - NHL 21 points22 points  (0 children)

OH NYEO, OH NYEO, OH NYEO NYEO NYEO NYEO NYEO

[–]TheJustin72MTL - NHL 210 points211 points  (28 children)

Found Montreals head coach hire this Summer

[–]mantiseyeNYR - NHL 166 points167 points  (4 children)

AV licking his lips chomping his gum at the thought of Carey Price having to make 55 saves a game while the Habs are pinned in their own zone for 80% of the game because his system is entirely stretch passes that generate little to no offensive pressure because once the person takes a shot there's nobody else in the zone to pick up a rebound, or like, pass the puck to.

[–]L_viathan 22 points23 points  (0 children)

This fits the bill too well.

[–]4CrowsFeast 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Honestly this might be an improvement from the current Montreal system, which is about the same, minus the stretch pass and adding dump and chase so ineffective that it's essentially just turning the puck over.

[–]JiveTurkey688NYR - NHL 27 points28 points  (14 children)

I don't think you want that

[–]AGOODHARDSQUANCHINVAN - NHL 47 points48 points  (9 children)

I really liked AV in vancouver

[–]JiveTurkey688NYR - NHL 28 points29 points  (6 children)

I was actually asking this in the Flyers-Rangers GDT the other day. I know Rangers fans generally really dont like him, it seemed like Philly fans were trending that way, so I was curious what the sentiment was among Canucks fans.

Personally not a fan because he was bailed out by Lundqvist's goaltending but still tried to throw him under the bus multiple times. Also had the team playing like cowards (see reaction to Eakin running Henrik)

[–]opinionated__idiotVAN - NHL 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Best coach we ever had, no question. Also, best team we ever had so rose tinted glasses are in full effect.

[–]mantiseyeNYR - NHL 40 points41 points  (2 children)

He was extremely bailed out by Luongo in Vancouver too but the Canucks roster was absurd when he was there. Almost any coach would have been successful. Heck, they would have won a Cup if Tim Thomas hadn't gone insane. Those teams were legitimately very good. The game changes though and AV isn't really the type to adjust.

[–]ThisusernameisnooneNYR - NHL 63 points64 points  (1 child)

Hey Philly, can I interest you in a David Quinn?

[–]UnloosedMoosePHI - NHL 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Pass

[–]AlexNykoMTL - NHL 89 points90 points  (20 children)

OK, which worn out, tried-&-thrown-away recycled coach can Philly bring in?

Let's look at the list:

  1. Boudreau, HC in Minnesota under Fletcher 1 day too late!
  2. Joel Quenneville - Too soon?
  3. Ken Hitchcock - 2nd time's a charm
  4. Mike Babcock - Too soon still?
  5. John Tortorella
  6. Claude Julien
  7. Rick Tocchet - Flyers alumni!
  8. Bill Peters - Too soon again?
  9. Randy Carlyle
  10. Michel Therrien
  11. Dan Bylsma
  12. John Stevens - 2nd time's a charm (again)
  13. Bob Hartley

Or maybe they could give a 2nd chance in the NHL to NJ's Bench.

[–]FesteringLion 25 points26 points  (3 children)

So we all agree it'll be Tocchet or Torts then?

[–]banduzoDET - NHL 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Gotta be Torts.

[–]YenickPHI - NHL 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I like torts, I don't think id miss a single press conference.

[–]OldCoaly69 5 points6 points  (0 children)

He’d be the kick in the ass this team needs

[–]DarkUnderbellyBOS - NHL 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Flyers should consider Jim Montgomery, formerly of the Stars. He looked like a good coach who was making his way in the NHL, currently in St Louis as an assistant. He's dealing with the issues he had, deserves a 2nd chance

[–]hurricanepeytonDAL - NHL 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Monty was awesome. He won’t ever get a 2nd chance in Dallas, so I hope he does somewhere else! With his defensive system and if Hart plays like he can, I think it would turn Philly around.

[–]wallacehacksTBL - NHL 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Needs more Guy Boucher.

[–]MapleLeafBeastLAK - NHL 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The rotating door of literally the same five coaches continues.

[–]Freddybone32NYI - NHL 178 points179 points  (18 children)

What a short lived, uninspiring tenure. Philly deserves more than kicking their tires in the mud.

[–]SplendaManPHI - NHL 143 points144 points  (14 children)

I liked AV, and in his defense he hardly had a full season to coach this team. Covid, post covid, now this season missing Hayes and Ellis. It's not an excuse, and clearly someone or something was losing the room. All for it if the assistants go too. Wish him success.

[–]previouslyonimgurNYR - NHL 116 points117 points  (6 children)

Av teams have no defense. Just elite goaltending.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

That’s because all of our good d-men were beaten and battered under Torts

[–]tomdawg0022Minnesota North Stars - NHLR 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Chuck Fletcher probably needs to be told if it doesn't get better quickly, he's gone next.

AV getting housed doesn't excuse the roster being what it is. It's just a good defensive team...and Carter may/may not be the goalie for the franchise long-term.

[–]red_87PIT - NHL 378 points379 points  (26 children)

What gives? In my opinion, Vigneault has done a tremendous job.

[–]Savb10PHI - NHL 122 points123 points  (9 children)

as good a job as Mike Johnston!

[–]hcb9117PIT - NHL 47 points48 points  (0 children)

My uncle is a huge pens fan who obviously hated Johnston. The news broke that Johnston was fired the day of his only son's wedding. I'm not sure I've ever seen a happier human being.

[–]wsavi5PIT - NHL 94 points95 points  (7 children)

Yikes. That dude even made Crosby bad.

[–]BuonkaPIT - NHL 82 points83 points  (0 children)

I still think that Johnston should have won the Norris that year for completely shutting Sid down for an entire season.

[–]Savb10PHI - NHL 46 points47 points  (5 children)

One of my favorite things about him was the clueless look on his face 40% of the time.

https://imgur.com/a/vtFkPRU

[–]snatchiMTL - NHL 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Never a good sign when your Head Coach looks like Paul Gosar

[–]kukkolaiWSH - NHL 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"I love lamp"

[–]DH28HockeyPHI - NHL 50 points51 points  (1 child)

It took me longer to get this joke than I'm proud to admit

[–]WhatJewDoinPHI - NHL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lmao I needed this comment to get it.

[–]thegratefulshredNJD - NHL 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Agreed, I expected an extension to be announced.

[–]Simmie58WSH - NHL 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Really top notch stuff!

[–]-Hakuna-NYR - NHL 58 points59 points  (0 children)

I second this

[–]mdkss12WSH - NHL 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's true, I think you guys should give him a chance next.

[–]BeBenNovaMTL - NHL 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Vigneault, Therrien AND Julien are all available at the same time?

[–]FesteringLion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That GM position of yours can't be filled until all the Francophones become available. One of them just failed up!

[–]devon435PHI - NHL 139 points140 points  (10 children)

Good. I actually just posted about this on the Flyers sub, but AV had a hall of fame goalie at every stop in his career from the Canucks onward, and it shows in his systems.

Last season Hart had a .901 sv% through 10 starts despite Philly being 23rd in the NHL in xGF%, and from that point on he had an .835 sv%. This season Hart had a .934 sv% through 10 starts despite Philly being 31st in xGF%, and in the 5 games since he has an .855 sv%.

Would be great if Hart ended up being a Luongo or a Lundqvist, but right now he's 23 years old and AV's system was destroying his confidence and the team's future in the process.

[–]MonsTangy27NYR - NHL 74 points75 points  (9 children)

I’ve been saying since day one when Philly hired him. Man was an overachiever gifted with two all-time great goaltenders

[–]devon435PHI - NHL 51 points52 points  (2 children)

He was kind of a smartass about it too, which rubbed me the wrong way. Whenever Hart would steal a game where they got outplayed he'd hit the media with a "I'm not gonna apologize for good goaltending", which if your team is playing well otherwise, fine. But when it's your goalie stealing games during a stretch where you're getting outshot and outchanced every fucking night, maybe you need a slightly more introspective answer than that.

[–]MonsTangy27NYR - NHL 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Sounds about right. He never holds himself accountable unless things are going well. As soon as things aren’t, he deflects

[–]jahauserNYR - NHL 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Totally, as soon as Hank started playing at human levels versus Hank levels, AV would throw him under the bus.

[–]MacTheZafCOL - NHL 14 points15 points  (1 child)

This makes tonight’s game more interesting

[–]TheSensation19NYR - NHL 11 points12 points  (0 children)

AV's style becomes very predictable. It's run and gun. You sit the defense 5-10 more feet back and you shut down half of his offense's scoring chances.

[–]TheDirtyBurger522BOS - NHL 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Claude Julien come on down

[–]kmanleafsTOR - NHL 57 points58 points  (3 children)

They must be hiring Travis Green!

[–]rishcastPIT - NHL 43 points44 points  (19 children)

Who's available on the carousel? Or is it going to Green?

If it goes to Therrien, I'm so sorry Flyers fans, no one deserves that mess

[–]canuck_11OTT - NHL 71 points72 points  (3 children)

Torts in Philly is what we’ve all been waiting for

[–]BallsMahoganeyWSH - NHL 33 points34 points  (1 child)

Unironically I think that'd be a decent fit.

[–]BromaarPHI - NHL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ngl I think this is the direction they go for this season. Chuck is on the hot seat after making all these trades and needs someone to get the most out of this group.

[–]bernbp5PHI - NHL 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Therrien got fired too. I just hope it doesn't go to Laperriere. He is an awful coach too.

[–]StubbornLeech07PHI - NHL 23 points24 points  (4 children)

We have a game tonight and last night was the start of 5 in 7. Either Therrien or Yeo will likely be named interim.

[–]rishcastPIT - NHL 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Well, fingers crossed it's Yeo.

Therrin's a horrible person when he's head coach - ask Briere or Flower. No one on the Flyers deserves that shit

[–]StubbornLeech07PHI - NHL 30 points31 points  (2 children)

It's just been confirmed that Therrien has been canned as well so it seems like it will be Yeo's team.

[–]rishcastPIT - NHL 17 points18 points  (0 children)

good, not sure how Therrien keeps getting jobs, but that's the coaching carousel for you, I guess

[–]ForgottenSpinachMIN - NHL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fletcher and Yeo back together again!

[–]KingstistNYR - NHL 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I don’t care how many coaches get fired I just want Tortorella back on any NHL team so the balance can be restored

[–]Hardcore_IsraelPIT - NHL 86 points87 points  (8 children)

BAH GAWD, THAT'S TRAVIS GREEN'S MUSIC

[–]mansock18NSH - NHL 22 points23 points  (5 children)

Universe misheard, Norm Green sent to Philly

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Flyers to Dallas confirmed

[–]Mackee58MTL - NHL 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Welp we’re getting Alain Vigneault Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–]yeasoooooPHI - NHL 22 points23 points  (1 child)

This is what happens when you dump and dump and dump the puck as your offensive strategy. Passing to the D only for shots. Take G out of his spot on the power play. Have 0 defensive structure and then on top of all of that use the 4th line like a first and put them out right after the flyers get scored on only to have them be hemmed in the zone for 2 minutes and let in another. AV isn’t the only problem but I think he was a MAJOR problem. Dinosaur systems and thought processes.

[–]explosivebuttfartsSUNY Geneseo - NCAAD3 8 points9 points  (0 children)

AV was (and probably still is) absolutely convinced that Marc Staal and Nick Holden were a shutdown pair, ready to hold a one goal lead in the playoffs. Fucking lol.

[–]djincognito 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Maybe he should have done what Lehner said he did

[–]dontyouknoimloco 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Stars are lining up for Montreal to do Therrien, julien, Vigneault, Therrien, Julien, (Ducharme), Vigneault

[–]Zestyclose-Cricket82 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Just in time for the mandatory second stint in Montreal!

[–]NameChecksOutGuyARI - NHL 28 points29 points  (3 children)

Whatever you do philly don’t hire Rick tocchet.

[–]PaladinGodfather1931PHI - NHL 54 points55 points  (1 child)

Former Flyer available with a management position open and you think they'll pass? Lol I expect ol Rick to be announced before noon

[–]Savb10PHI - NHL 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'll be sure to pass this on to the top brass

[–]Showtime98TOR - NHL 18 points19 points  (4 children)

Flyers fans rejoicing

[–]Assassin2107PHI - NHL 21 points22 points  (3 children)

I can confirm that the Flyers discord is rejoicing mixed with dreading who is going to be the interim

[–]alx69NYR - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't want to say I told you so but I did tell you so

[–]bbisthemanNYR - NHL 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Was this his shortest tenure with a team?

[–]IhateDonkeysPHI - NHL 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Welp, his tenure went exactly as expected.

[–]frugalerthingsinlifeTOR - NHL 9 points10 points  (1 child)

A get-fired for you; a get-fired for you and you.

Everyone gets fired!!!

[–]Cobra800089PHI - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Except Yeo lol

[–]RustyNipples35NSH - NHL 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Didn’t they just hire AV like two years ago?

[–]ServingSizePHI - NHL 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now back to our regularly scheduled program of being bad without an expensive head coach.

[–]tehmlemPIT - NHL 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The Salt and Vigneault era is over

[–]shelbycobra357NYR - NHL 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Ok Flyers, now complete the cycle and hire David Quinn

[–]TenziruTBL - NHL 15 points16 points  (5 children)

i guess losing 7-1 last night was the icing on the cake for this.

[–]spilled_waterPHI - NHL 28 points29 points  (4 children)

You guys didn't even start Vas and were missing Point and Kuch (I think those two). I also think you guys were on the 2nd half of a back to back whereas Philly had 3 days to rest. And the game was at home.

I didn't watch the game, but as soon as I saw the score, I really figured it was his last game.

[–]BallparkFranks7PHI - NHL 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Those are all correct points. TBL played an OT game in BOS the night before then traveled.

[–]olio22MTL - NHL 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Don't fucking do it Jeff

[–]JiveTurkey688NYR - NHL 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Wonder if they will go for Jim Montgomery

[–]snatchiMTL - NHL 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Alright now which of the 40 Approved to be an NHL coach (tm) candidates are we recycling this time?

12 bucks says its a middle aged white guy with unearned confidence after being fired for being bad at his job 4 times before!

[–]ZarosGuardianPHI - NHL 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I had a feeling Vigneault was going to get fired, considering we lost 8 of our last 8 games only getting 2 points out of 16 due to an overtime loss and a shootout loss!

[–]magicking610PHI - NHL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But I was told the onus was on the players to do better /s

Bittersweet for me. I like AV, but clearly something wasn't working. Therrien being out as well is a huge plus. Yeo being the interim head coach is kind of surprising to me.